Kobe flagrant, no suspension [Archive]

baseline bum

05-07-2009, 04:44 PM

benefactor

05-07-2009, 04:45 PM

It will come eventually.

Fisher and Alston suspended, as well.
Like a door to Narnia or something? Link/Source or you are just making assumptions.

Dim Tuncan

05-07-2009, 04:46 PM

Did anyone really expect a suspension?

http://i44.tinypic.com/f52dxc.jpg

Why would anyone expect a suspension? Other than a bunch of whiny faggots of course.

DPG21920

05-07-2009, 04:47 PM

Not surprising. I think it's horse-shit to give Bryant a flagrant for that elbow. The Fisher suspension I don't agree with, but the precedent is there with all the other stupid suspensions the league gives for things like that. Kicking him out of game 2 was enough IMO.

You think Kobe should have been let go with nothing? Also, since the booted Ron in game 2 which was unfair, kicking Fish out was not enough.

Shank

05-07-2009, 04:47 PM

Like a door to Narnia or something? Link/Source or you are just making assumptions.

Patience, my son.

Let's argue Kidd v. Harris in the meantime.

benefactor

05-07-2009, 04:47 PM

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/59024/20090507/alston_and_fisher_suspended_for_game_3/

leemajors

05-07-2009, 04:47 PM

Like a door to Narnia or something? Link/Source or you are just making assumptions.

he's pretty much always got good info.

Shank

05-07-2009, 04:48 PM

NEW YORK, May 7, 2009 - Rafer Alston of the Orlando Magic and Derek
Fisher of the Los Angeles Lakers have each been suspended one game
without pay for their roles in separate incidents last night, NBA
Executive Vice President, Basketball Operations Stu Jackson announced
today.

Alston has been suspended for swinging and making contact with the head
of Eddie House of the Boston Celtics with 48.6 seconds remaining in the
third period of the Magic's 112-94 loss to the Celtics in Game 2 of the
Eastern Conference Semifinals last night at TD Banknorth Garden.

Fisher has been suspended for striking Houston's Luis Scola with his
shoulder and head with 13.2 seconds remaining in the third period of the
Lakers' 111-98 win last night over the visiting Houston Rockets in Game
2 of the Western Conference Semifinals at STAPLES Center.
Fisher
received a Flagrant Foul Penalty Two and was ejected from the game at
the time of the play.

Jackson also announced that the Lakers' Kobe Bryant has been assessed a
Flagrant Foul Penalty One for elbowing Houston's Ron Artest in the chest
area with 6:57 remaining in the fourth period of last night's game.

Alston will serve his suspension on Friday when the Magic hosts the
Celtics at Amway Arena. Fisher also will serve his suspension on Friday
when the Lakers visit the Rockets at Toyota Center.

ducks

05-07-2009, 04:49 PM

I think kobe got ron near the neck
that warrants a suspension
chest my foot

KSeal

05-07-2009, 04:49 PM

I'm glad Fish got suspended, now we can put PG's out there for 48 mins who can actually guard Houston's PGs. Kobe didn't deserve to be suspended but how did he get upgraded to a flagrant yet Rondo can slap guys in the face then through them down by the neck and chuck guys into scorers tables and not get upgraded to a flagrant, I don't understand.

ducks

05-07-2009, 04:49 PM

Not surprising. I think it's horse-shit to give Bryant a flagrant for that elbow. The Fisher suspension I don't agree with, but the precedent is there with all the other stupid suspensions the league gives for things like that. Kicking him out of game 2 was enough IMO.

it is against the rules to elbow someone in the throat
bowen does that he is gone the next game

hhml

05-07-2009, 04:50 PM

Fish definitely deserves the suspension. That play was uncalled for. And don't they usually hand out a suspension after a flagrant 2?

ElNono

05-07-2009, 04:50 PM

This is the expected outcome. LOL @ Phil Jackson saying Fish shouldn't get suspended.

Man In Black

05-07-2009, 04:53 PM

so why was that hit worth only 1 game, when Horry's Nash Hit was worth 2?
The NBA...we're inconsistent...for a reason.

Shank

05-07-2009, 04:56 PM

Where Amazing Happens.

baseline bum

05-07-2009, 04:58 PM

You think Kobe should have been let go with nothing? Also, since the booted Ron in game 2 which was unfair, kicking Fish out was not enough.

Artest was stupid. He had to know the whistle would be extremely fast after Fisher just got ejected for leveling Scola. Anyone could see that ejection coming a mile away when Artest started walking at Bryant, and there's no one to blame but Artest for that ejection. The refs should have called a loose-ball foul on Bryant; that's all it was.

DrHouse

05-07-2009, 04:58 PM

I'm very excited to see what the Laker D looks like with Brown in the starting 5. Should be some great perimeter D between him, Kobe, and Ariza.

ElNono

05-07-2009, 05:02 PM

But Fisher is a shooter that can shoot lights out at the 3 and has a decent jumper. I dont know the Lakers and never heard of Brown, what does he bring to the table? It wasn't like Brooks was off the hook in game 2 anyways so having Fish would be a plus.

Shannon Brown is the new Magic Johnson... just like Bynum is the new Kareem... :jack

KSeal

05-07-2009, 05:04 PM

But Fisher is a shooter that can shoot lights out at the 3 and has a decent jumper. I dont know the Lakers and never heard of Brown, what does he bring to the table? It wasn't like Brooks was off the hook in game 2 anyways so having Fish would be a plus.

Fish had a decent last game but has been struggling tremendously with his shot for the past month or so and more often then not looks ooooold out there on D. Every once in a while he'll muster up a decent defensive game like last night but not that often. Brown on the other had in big, strong, athletic as hell and is something like 8/12 from three in the playoffs so he's a nice upgrade.

KSeal

05-07-2009, 05:06 PM

Shannon Brown is the new Magic Johnson... just like Bynum is the new Kareem... :jack

:lobt2:

iggypop123

05-07-2009, 05:16 PM

get ariza out with walton there (seriosly him) artest doesnt post up instead its up to him to continue to make crazy 3's

DrHouse

05-07-2009, 05:17 PM

But Fisher is a shooter that can shoot lights out at the 3 and has a decent jumper. I dont know the Lakers and never heard of Brown, what does he bring to the table? It wasn't like Brooks was off the hook in game 2 anyways so having Fish would be a plus.

Except Fisher is 5/20 from 3pt land and Brown is something like 11/16.

Bottom line is D-Fish has been slumping for some time now.

Brown brings some of the best PG defense in the league to the team. He can board, block shots, and run the break better than Fisher. I'm fully confident that he will do a better job than Fish when he's out there with the starting unit.

Allanon

05-07-2009, 05:18 PM

Stu Jackson just doing what he's suspposed to do.

Elbow to the chest does not get you a suspension. Elbow to the throat does.

Since Kobe elbowed him to the chest, he won't get a suspension.

Good job in investingating this thoroughly and not buying into the throat flop, Stu.

j.dizzle

05-07-2009, 05:28 PM

Damn im excited to have quicker & bigger Shannon Brown play more..Little ass Aaron Brooks will still get his points but he aint gonna be penetrating like he did vs fish. Lakers gonna be running & gunning all game tomorrow. Cant wait

j.dizzle

05-07-2009, 05:31 PM

I also wanna see farmar & brown play together like yesterday. That was fun to watch since they steal a lot of balls & speed it up

TheMACHINE

05-07-2009, 05:35 PM

BlackSwordsMan

05-07-2009, 05:39 PM

yao is going to put on his penis for the next game and rape the lakers

crc21209

05-07-2009, 05:40 PM

I'm very excited to see what the Laker D looks like with Brown in the starting 5. Should be some great perimeter D between him, Kobe, and Ariza.

Brown may still be too young for the "big moment" in a big game...and D-Fish is definitely a leader/clutch player when it really comes down to it...the Lakers may need/miss that tomorrow night.

UrAphag

05-07-2009, 05:40 PM

yao is going to put on his penis for the next game and rape the lakers
OH NO! not the 4 inches of doom!

BlackSwordsMan

05-07-2009, 05:41 PM

not every rapist can be well endowed like the black mamba

sook

05-07-2009, 05:42 PM

OH NO! not the 4 inches of doom!

I don't even think he has one. After last game it was clear its...
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DPG21920

05-07-2009, 05:43 PM

Brown is something like 11/16.

Fluke. Law of average will catch up.

Budkin

05-07-2009, 05:43 PM

What a fucking joke. How can they justify the Dwight Howard suspension but not the Kobe one. Oh yeah, it's Kobe.

Budkin

05-07-2009, 05:44 PM

Where Amazing Happens.

:lmao

Morg1411

05-07-2009, 05:46 PM

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuck that bullshit.

Anyone who doesn't believe that the Lakers get preferential treatment is sucking themselves dry.

TheMACHINE

05-07-2009, 05:46 PM

What a fucking joke. How can they justify the Dwight Howard suspension but not the Kobe one. Oh yeah, it's Kobe.

lol...we're you hiding under a rock for teh past 12 hours?!

Kobe, elbow to chest
Dwight, elbow to head

got it?

TheMACHINE

05-07-2009, 05:47 PM

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuck that bullshit.

Anyone who doesn't believe that the Lakers get preferential treatment is sucking themselves dry.

:lol

Budkin

05-07-2009, 05:53 PM

lol...we're you hiding under a rock for teh past 12 hours?!

Kobe, elbow to chest
Dwight, elbow to head

got it?

Elbow to throat... Fisher's elbow was to the chest.

Budkin

05-07-2009, 05:56 PM

Elbow to throat... Fisher's elbow was to the chest.

Just saw the new angle which shows it might have been below the throat. If that is the case then ignore my post.

LnGrrrR

05-07-2009, 06:13 PM

The difference between Rondo and Alston is that you could at least argue that Rondo was playing during the foul (and yes, I'm one of the people who think he should've got suspended for the Hinrich whip, not for the hard foul on Miller though.)

Alston's slap was far away from the action, and obviously premeditated.

iggypop123

05-07-2009, 06:18 PM

Fluke. Law of average will catch up.

good news for the lakers and artests crazy shots

Matchman

05-07-2009, 06:19 PM

Except Fisher is 5/20 from 3pt land and Brown is something like 11/16.

Bottom line is D-Fish has been slumping for some time now.

Brown brings some of the best PG defense in the league to the team. He can board, block shots, and run the break better than Fisher. I'm fully confident that he will do a better job than Fish when he's out there with the starting unit.

you are underestimating the value of Fisher. He brings championship experience, experiences playing with kobe for years, he can knock down 95% of his FTs, and he has been a sharp shooter under any kind of pressure. Let me make my prediction here. when the game is close, we are 100% we are going to double-team Kobe off Brown, but we are not going to leave Fisher open.
theres a reason why the Jizzholez went to the WCF when Fish was there. i respect his game :toast(minus the cheap shot of course :sleep)

DrHouse

05-07-2009, 06:31 PM

you are underestimating the value of Fisher. He brings championship experience, experiences playing with kobe for years, he can knock down 95% of his FTs, and he has been a sharp shooter under any kind of pressure. Let me make my prediction here. when the game is close, we are 100% we are going to double-team Kobe off Brown, but we are not going to leave Fisher open.
theres a reason why the Jizzholez went to the WCF when Fish was there. i respect his game :toast(minus the cheap shot of course :sleep)

Of course Fish brings a lot of intangibles, but the Lakers aren't going to lose a game because he's not on the floor. His performance has dropped off quite a bit this year and his liabilities on defense hurt the team.

Give me 48 minutes of solid PG defense any day of the week. Front Yao, keep Brooks in check, force Ron Ron to be the man. That seems like a good strategy to me. Let's hope reality catches up with Ron and he stops making step back 3's with 1 second on the shot clock :toast

cobbler

05-07-2009, 06:35 PM

But Fisher is a shooter that can shoot lights out at the 3 and has a decent jumper. I dont know the Lakers and never heard of Brown, what does he bring to the table? It wasn't like Brooks was off the hook in game 2 anyways so having Fish would be a plus.

Fish has been shooting like crap the last 10 games... and Brown is like 8 for 12 from the 3 in the playoffs. Will be nice to see. The only real loss would be experience.

Laker-fan-in-SanAnto

05-07-2009, 06:38 PM

This is the expected outcome. LOL @ Phil Jackson saying Fish shouldn't get suspended.

I don't think any coach will come out and say, suspend my player please!!!!

cobbler

05-07-2009, 06:44 PM

What a fucking joke. How can they justify the Dwight Howard suspension but not the Kobe one. Oh yeah, it's Kobe.

Its justified like this. Dwight swung his elbow to the head in a retalitory move with intent to injure. Kobe was boxing out with Rons forearm and elbow in the back of his head and neck and threw an elbow to to the CHEST to clear space. No intent to injure anymore than Rons forearm in the back of Kobe's neck was. As for the elbow to the neck of artest BS .... what are you going to believe... the film or Artest? :bang The only reason its even being talked about is because Ron Ron went nutso after.

Get over it... time to move on to game 3...

KSeal

05-07-2009, 06:50 PM

Its justified like this. Dwight swung his elbow to the head in a retalitory move with intent to injure. Kobe was boxing out with Rons forearm and elbow in the back of his head and neck and threw an elbow to to the CHEST to clear space. No intent to injure anymore than Rons forearm in the back of Kobe's neck was. As for the elbow to the neck of artest BS .... what are you going to believe... the film or Artest? :bang The only reason its even being talked about is because Ron Ron went nutso after.

Get over it... time to move on to game 3...

:toast

DrHouse

05-07-2009, 06:53 PM

hhml

05-07-2009, 06:55 PM

What a fucking joke. How can they justify the Dwight Howard suspension but not the Kobe one. Oh yeah, it's Kobe.

Howard's People's Elbow isn't as popular as Kobe's. The people stand by Kobe and the right decision was made.

Spursfan092120

05-07-2009, 06:57 PM

Don't bother trying to explain simple logic to these maggots.

Spur fan = biggest pile of dog shit on this planet.

After their pathetic 1st round exit to the fucking Dallas Mavericks they are latching on to anything that will make themselves feel better.
lol....wow...your fellow Laker fans insult you..everyone in here insults you...you start stupid repetitive threads during games that say the same shit over and over again...you are a complete and total homer...you are proud that your team threw elbows that could have hurt someone...and WE'RE dog shit? Wow...DrHouse...just wow...you are the biggest douche in the universe..lol...
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Spursfan092120

05-07-2009, 06:59 PM

Howard's People's Elbow isn't as popular as Kobe's. The people stand by Kobe and the right decision was made.
The people = http://okcthunderbasketball.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/david-stern1.jpg

Cry Havoc

05-07-2009, 06:59 PM

hhml

05-07-2009, 07:03 PM

The people = http://okcthunderbasketball.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/david-stern1.jpg

The people have spoken :toast

Spursfan092120

05-07-2009, 07:03 PM

After seeing several angles, it looks like Kobe needs a flagrant and that's all. it hit right at the top of the shoulders, but not the neck.

Kobe should be on thin ice the rest of the playoffs, though. After the thing with Battier and now this, he's setting a precedent this year.
What's crap though is the fact that Artest got called for that foul. Ron has been telling the officials since game 1 to watch Kobe..that he's throwing bows..and despite that, the refs haven't been calling Kobe for them at all...pretty much bullshit.

KSeal

05-07-2009, 07:03 PM

After their pathetic 1st round exit to the fucking Dallas Mavericks they are latching on to anything that will make themselves feel better.

Every time a Laker player moves they start a thread about them. Seriously, just stop watching and following everything Kobe and the Lakers do if you hate them that much. They have nothing else to do with themselves I guess.

Spursfan092120

05-07-2009, 07:05 PM

Every time a Laker player moves they start a thread about them. Seriously, just stop watching and following everything Kobe and the Lakers do if you hate them that much. They have nothing else to do with themselves I guess.
Um..in case you forgot..the Lakers are the only thing the NBA cares about..every other fucking channel on TV was talking about the game last night...and I'm in Texas...it's hard NOT to see what's going on.

KSeal

05-07-2009, 07:09 PM

Um..in case you forgot..the Lakers are the only thing the NBA cares about..every other fucking channel on TV was talking about the game last night...and I'm in Texas...it's hard NOT to see what's going on.

Your team is out of the playoffs, why bother staying on a forum all day long talking shit about a team you hate so much? I just don't understand, you hate the Lakers, why do you watch every game and get so involved with them? You really have nothing better to do?

Spursfan092120

05-07-2009, 07:12 PM

Your team is out of the playoffs, why bother staying on a forum all day long talking shit about a team you hate so much? I just don't understand, you hate the Lakers, why do you watch every game and get so involved with them? You really have nothing better to do?
Who's on here all day long? I've been working all day long. And like I said...I'll repeat myself, since you don't seem to be paying much attention. The NBA is all about the Lakers...when the Lakers play, it's all over everything. If you love the game of basketball, you watch it..period. What else was there to watch from 9:30 to midnight CST last night? Not much. And if you bothered to read posts before you talk shit to me, you would have seen that before last night, I was actually rooting for the Lakers in this series. I wanted them to beat the Rockets. But after the cheap shot by Fisher and the continous elbows Kobe is giving Artest (and no..the one in the chest isn't the first one), I've changed my mind.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

05-07-2009, 07:38 PM

Comparing Kobe's elbow to Dwight's is laughable. I really hate having to argue on the same side as LA fans, but sometimes these comparisons are just so wrong. D-Ho clearly made an intentional effort to elbow Sam-Dam in a play completely irrelevant to the game. Kobe elbowed Ron while trying to box out someone who outweighed him by 40 pounds on a play that actually had something to do with the game.

urunobili

05-07-2009, 07:41 PM

Howard's People's Elbow isn't as popular as Kobe's. The people stand by Kobe and the right decision was made.

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DPG21920

05-07-2009, 07:46 PM

Don't bother trying to explain simple logic to these maggots.

Spur fan = biggest pile of dog shit on this planet.

After their pathetic 1st round exit to the fucking Dallas Mavericks they are latching on to anything that will make themselves feel better.

Your team got smashed by the Celtics. The KG, fake tough guy, wheel chair Celtics. QFT, you have lost all rights to talk shit. You are embarrassing yourself.

Roxsfan

05-07-2009, 07:49 PM

There is one set of rules for Kobe, and one set for everyone else.

Fuck Stu Jaxson and davida Stern.

Medvedenko

05-07-2009, 07:57 PM

There is one set of rules for Kobe, and one set for everyone else.

Fuck Stu Jaxson and davida Stern.

Yeah the same rules that got Kobe suspended twice already due to elbows.

urunobili

05-07-2009, 08:07 PM

Yeah the same rules that got Kobe suspended twice already due to elbows.

Kobe 2 suspensions

Bowen 1

Kobe dirtier that Bowen.... :wakeup

DrHouse

05-07-2009, 08:17 PM

Spur fan just stop talking. You are embarrassing yourselves.

DPG21920

05-07-2009, 08:19 PM

Spur fan just stop talking. You are embarrassing yourselves.

Celtics. Finals. Lost. Please stop talking Laker fan. You will never catch the Celtics (especially when they beat you down in finals head-to-head) and the only time your team kind of "shined" will go down as the Spurs era. So sad Laker fan. Quit talking girl, shhhhhhhh.

You have lost the right to talk trash.

RsxPiimp

05-07-2009, 08:20 PM

Don't bother trying to explain simple logic to these maggots.

Spur fan = biggest pile of dog shit on this planet.

After their pathetic 1st round exit to the fucking Dallas Mavericks they are latching on to anything that will make themselves feel better.

thanks for generalizing all of us. that being said, i hope the rockets beat the lakers in this series. only appropriate to shut faker fans.

DrHouse

05-07-2009, 08:21 PM

DPG21920

05-07-2009, 08:24 PM

At least Laker fans are not so pathetic they need to ride the coattails of other organizations when their teams get eliminated from the playoffs.

That is the most bottom feeding pathetic move a fan can do.

Shhhhhhh, girl. It will be ok, just shhhhhh. No one is riding anything girl, shhhhhhh. Just watching basketball, so girl, shhhhhhh.

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