View Full Version : Chris Bosh coming to Texas in 2010?
lefty
05-11-2009, 03:05 PM
Raptors just signed a 3 year deal with Triano ........ Ugh........... :wakeup
I'm not sure how long CB4 can put up with that
Ditty
05-11-2009, 03:06 PM
i see the spurs giving bosh a 6 year 90 million contract in 2010
DPG21920
05-11-2009, 03:09 PM
i see the spurs giving bosh a 6 year 90 million contract in 2010
I certainly hope not. He is not a franchise player imo. A very good player, but completely over-hyped.
45 bank shot
05-11-2009, 03:11 PM
I certainly hope not. He is not a franchise player imo. A very good player, but completely over-hyped.
however if u get him along side timmay, itz surely gonna cause some havoc..
lefty
05-11-2009, 03:12 PM
I certainly hope not. He is not a franchise player imo. A very good player, but completely over-hyped.
Well, I think he is a great player; Raps have had a lot of injuries this season; plus, firing Mitchell was retarded
DPG21920
05-11-2009, 03:12 PM
Yes, if you can get him next to Tim he would help. But that is impossible because someone will pay him max money and he is not worth it. Once Tim retires, having Bosh at the max would suck.
lefty
05-11-2009, 03:13 PM
Does Dwyane Wade’s future depend on LeBron? (http://www.scoresreport.com/2009/05/07/does-dwyane-wades-future-depend-on-lebron/)
Posted by John Paulsen (05/07/2009 @ 1:46 pm)
http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Olympics+Day+16+Basketball+DtRSexC-kFPl.jpg (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/IhD5EAFl25O/Olympics+Day+16+Basketball/DtRSexC-kFP/Chris+Bosh)
The short answer is…maybe.
Have you noticed how all of this LeBron-to-the-Knicks talk has died down as the Cavs put up the best record in the NBA this season? That’s because Cleveland is a favorite to make the Finals, and with the way the Lakers are struggling against the Rockets out West, the Cavs are looking more and more like an NBA champion. If they do manage to win a title this year (or next), it will be very difficult for LeBron to jump ship without looking like a total a-hole. So he won’t. If he wins a ring, he’ll stay in Cleveland.
So the Knicks will have to look elsewhere for their superstar — enter Dwyane Wade. As Dave Hyde of the Sun-Sentinel writes (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/basketball/heat/sfl-hyde-heat-s050709sbmay07,0,7386222.column), the Big Apple would be an attractive destination for Wade.
The Knicks have the money. They have the allure. They have coach Mike D’Antoni’s fun style. They can tell Wade he would revive Knicks basketball and get the kind of spotlight only New York offers such stars. Who wouldn’t be tempted by all that?
So Hyde advocates that instead of waiting for 2010 and trying to add a star big man like Chris Bosh or Amare Stoudemire while at the same time re-signing Wade, the Heat should go ahead and trade Michael Beasley to Toronto for Bosh this summer.
So there’s the Armageddon scenario for the Heat: It advances only slightly next year, misses on Bosh, has the Knicks singing a siren song to Wade … and loses him.
If you’re Riley, do you risk that? All for Beasley, who, much as I like him, posed as many questions as answers this season? Even Wade, who measures his words, allowed as to how Beasley frustrated him at times with the immaturity.
The best way to sign Wade this summer is to offer concrete evidence he can win big here. That means landing his friend, Bosh. They were Olympians together. They share the same agent. They respect each other greatly.
That’s why the smartest move to make is trading the salary-matching pair of Beasley and Mark Blount to Toronto for Bosh.
It’s an attractive scenario to wait until 2010 and add Bosh to a lineup that includes Wade and Beasley. But there’s a good chance that Bosh could sign with Cleveland or that the Knicks could come in and steal both Bosh and Wade away from the Heat. Why risk a future with Wade for the promise of Beasley? While it sounds a little crazy to trade a young player with a ton of upside for a guy you might be able to sign outright the next summer, it’s risk versus reward. A Wade/Bosh combo would guarantee the Heat would compete in the East for the next five years. Throw in the steady Udonis Haslem, a more mature Mario Chalmers and a small forward to be named later, and Heat would have a nice lineup. But the biggest reason the Heat should acquire Bosh is that it will almost guarantee that Wade re-ups as well.
Now the question is — will the Raptors go for it?
http://www.scoresreport.com/tag/chris-bosh-free-agent/
lefty
05-11-2009, 03:14 PM
Ooooops
Wrong thread
I can't delete my post
Ditty
05-11-2009, 03:16 PM
I certainly hope not. He is not a franiochise player imo. A very good player, but completely over-hyped.
well you can probably say that he is defintly a 20 10 guy which is what we need,a guy that has 3 point range i never liked his defense though
i do agree he is not someone to build a team around with but who is these days
i do hope that we land aldridge someday alongside bosh :lobt2:
lefty
05-11-2009, 03:16 PM
Ooooops
Wrong thread
I can't delete my post
Scratch that :D
DPG21920
05-11-2009, 03:16 PM
I put Bosh in the "Boozer" category. Good offense, good rebounding, poor defense/shot blocking not really a true franchise player.
Dirk>>>>>>>>>Bosh and Dirk is not really that main guy. Dirk is very close, but he is not a Duncan or Shaq.
symple19
05-11-2009, 03:24 PM
sounds better to me than splitter
ambchang
05-11-2009, 03:51 PM
Bosh is very much an Antawn Jamison kind of player. Gives you 20/10 every game, but has very little impact because of his defense and general knowledge of the game.
I say pass even if there is a chance to sign him. But the thing is, the Spurs have no chance to begin with.
MaNu4Tres
05-11-2009, 04:16 PM
If bosh wanted to come here for the max, we would have to be happy with that. Face it there will never be another Tim Duncan or Shaquille O'Neal.
DPG21920
05-11-2009, 04:21 PM
Wrong again. Bosh is probably the best defensive forward behind KG and Duncan.
Is this a joke. Many people question whether or not Bosh is a winner. He does not block/alter shots, he is not great at help defense and he is not a great decision maker in defensive pick and roll situations.
DPG21920
05-11-2009, 04:23 PM
Dirk is more of a tall shooting guard/smallforward than a big man. If I am not mistaken Nelly used to run him at the 2/3 when he coached the Mavs in 2003.
Nelly also uses SJax at PF/C, that does not make him one. Bosh would have been used the same way. Except with worse results because Bosh has the same inside short comings as Dirk and does not have the range Dirk has.
rayray2k8
05-11-2009, 04:36 PM
Pass.
Marcus Bryant
05-11-2009, 04:47 PM
And so the dig for fool's gold commences.
DPG21920
05-11-2009, 04:49 PM
MB and others are correct, this is not a possibility anyways, so why talk.
Ditty
05-11-2009, 04:53 PM
unless we pull off a blockbuster trade in 2010 to get aldridge and ferndez this is most likely going to be the guy the spurs to go after
spurs arent really to excited about 2010 like 2004 when they dudnt seem to care about who they would get
temujin
05-11-2009, 05:02 PM
One of the most overrated players in the NBA.
Redirect to Mavs, please.
ambchang
05-11-2009, 05:03 PM
Wrong again. Bosh is probably the best defensive forward behind KG and Duncan.
LOL, he has almost no defensive game despite hs quickness. He is too weak to defend the post, and he rarely guards the other teams best man. His rotations were terrible (could be attributed to the clueless staff up in Toronto), and he has no idea on the defensive side of the court about half the time.
THere is a reason the Raptors are below average in defense (based on OPP FG%) in all but Bosh's rookie season. They finished in the bottom 5 twice in the last 5 years, and only better than top 20 once (#15 in 2007-08)
DPG21920
05-11-2009, 05:07 PM
Bosh + Bargs = terrible defense.
clubalien
05-11-2009, 05:16 PM
i see the spurs giving bosh a 6 year 90 million contract in 2010
I would rather have lebron james. He could be like the next MJ of the nba.
Hornets1
05-11-2009, 06:01 PM
I would rather have lebron james. He could be like the next MJ of the nba.
Who wouldnt? :lolI dont think they would be talking about bosh if lebron was a possibility.
lets try to get Al Jefferson, hes damn good big, no one ever talks about him and im sure it wouldnt kill him to leave minnesota
spursbird
05-11-2009, 08:36 PM
We need him. He's one the only two players in the league who really averaged 20+10 this season(AJ not included cauz he was out in too many games). I know his defense is terrible, but we can make him and Timmy be the 'twin towers', and just let Timmy defense.
DPG21920
05-11-2009, 08:44 PM
We need him. He's one the only two players in the league who really averaged 20+10 this season(AJ not included cauz he was out in too many games). I know his defense is terrible, but we can make him and Timmy be the 'twin towers', and just let Timmy defense.
That is not true. Dwight, Bosh and ..............Zach Randolph.
Ditty
05-11-2009, 08:47 PM
lets try to get Al Jefferson, hes damn good big, no one ever talks about him and im sure it wouldnt kill him to leave minnesota
that would be nice but his contract doesnt come of the books till 2012 and he'll be 28
i would trade for him but he might be a player that twolves might want to build around with
Yuushi12
05-11-2009, 09:34 PM
lets try to get Al Jefferson, hes damn good big, no one ever talks about him and im sure it wouldnt kill him to leave minnesota
+10000 i really love his game
Spursfan092120
05-11-2009, 10:21 PM
I would rather have lebron james. He could be like the next MJ of the nba.
How did you get to 1380 posts? :wow Yes...we would love Lebron..but no..he won't be the next MJ..there won't be another MJ..Lebron is Lebron..period. That's it. You can't compare their games...they're different positions...Jordan was a better defender, had different rules that made it harder for guards and small forwards to score...and there was nobody even CLOSE to him when he was playing, while I don't even think Lebron is the best player in the league right now (Kobe).
raspsa
05-11-2009, 10:37 PM
In order of preference:
Aldridge
Jefferson
Bosh
sa_kid20
05-11-2009, 10:44 PM
Bosh is really good and is probably the closest thing the Spurs could get in terms of a Superstar. I mean shit, some of you guys are acting like the Spurs could have their pick of a franchise player or something. This isn't like a NBA 2K9 fantasy draft or something, and i would be excited if we got Bosh.
Chieflion
05-12-2009, 05:11 AM
Bosh is really good and is probably the closest thing the Spurs could get in terms of a Superstar. I mean shit, some of you guys are acting like the Spurs could have their pick of a franchise player or something. This isn't like a NBA 2K9 fantasy draft or something, and i would be excited if we got Bosh.
Same here. Gives me hope thinking Bosh would perhaps come to the Spurs.
Wait. Isn't Kevin Durant from Texas too?
TDMVPDPOY
05-12-2009, 07:33 AM
i could actually see port giving up on oden then giving up on aldridge if a trade is to come along....
we all know frye rice already in the pooper.....
lefty
05-12-2009, 08:51 AM
Are you serious? Last year when the Raptors were having a strong season with Bosh leading the way people would not talk a bad word about him. One bad season and he is questioned with his pasion to win, his defensive ability and decision making?
Before Triano came in Bosh was having an NBA MVP level season because he was working in a system using him correctly. Whatever Jay Triano has been doing it has hurt Bosh's game.
+245000 :tu :tu :tu
DPG21920
05-12-2009, 09:25 AM
Bosh has always put up good numbers, but he has always been criticized somewhat, just like Dirk. It is not his new coach, his numbers are about the same as they have always been.
Like I said, Dirk>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bosh and it is not even close and Dirk gets criticized all the time.
rascal
05-12-2009, 10:59 AM
Bosh is very much an Antawn Jamison kind of player. Gives you 20/10 every game, but has very little impact because of his defense and general knowledge of the game.
I say pass even if there is a chance to sign him. But the thing is, the Spurs have no chance to begin with.
If you have a chance at Bosh and pass on Bosh who do you expect to get?
SpursWench21
05-12-2009, 11:12 AM
Bosh is really good and is probably the closest thing the Spurs could get in terms of a Superstar. I mean shit, some of you guys are acting like the Spurs could have their pick of a franchise player or something. This isn't like a NBA 2K9 fantasy draft or something, and i would be excited if we got Bosh.
+10 man i love those fantasy drafts on that game....make it fun and frustrating at the same time....but yes Bosh no matter what stats hes putting out would fit nicely in our system and would be a monster to land along side Parker once Timmy and Manu are done. Think about it. A decent center, 2, or 3 (whoever it may be at the time)with Tp and Bosh would basically give us a solid big three...and even before then, just having Bosh play along side Timmy and learning from Pop and his staff would IMO boost his game big time. We could only hope to land such a caliber player in 2010. :flag:
DPG21920
05-12-2009, 11:36 AM
Spurs have no chance to get Bosh, lets get that straight.
Here is what is going on in this thread:
1) Spurs have 0 chance at landing Bosh in 2010.
2) People are saying get Bosh, get Bosh.
3) Some are saying they would pay him a max contract
4) Many are saying that, yes Bosh would be a huge upgrade next to Duncan, but not at a Max contract value.
5) Then we are back to understanding that the Spurs cannot get Bosh and even if they could, paying him max would be a mistake.
ambchang
05-12-2009, 12:39 PM
If you have a chance at Bosh and pass on Bosh who do you expect to get?
I would rather not spend the money and suck a few years to rebuild.
The issue is if you stick a max/near max contract, you have obligations to that certain player, you would kill any financial flexibility.
Point is, there are only 4 or 5 players in the league that deserves max $, but since GMs around the league acts like the money is going to burn a hole in their pocket if they don't spend, many teams are stuck with untradable contracts that eats away at their financial flexibility, and kills their chances of rebuilding.
Ditty
05-12-2009, 01:42 PM
Spurs have no chance to get Bosh, lets get that straight.
Here is what is going on in this thread:
1) Spurs have 0 chance at landing Bosh in 2010.
2) People are saying get Bosh, get Bosh.
3) Some are saying they would pay him a max contract
4) Many are saying that, yes Bosh would be a huge upgrade next to Duncan, but not at a Max contract value.
5) Then we are back to understanding that the Spurs cannot get Bosh
and even if they could, paying him max would be a mistake.
how dont they have a chance to get bosh :wakeup
spurs havent idicated about signing anyone in 2010 yet unless he sign an extension
he is from texas which mean when it comes 100% of his checks because toronto has a state tax or whatever so its a better payday
beleive me i wouldnt want to give bosh a max conract i think he i a great player not a franshise player unless his defense is going to get better
who is going to replace duncan? a duncan and bosh dual in 2010 if duncan is still averagin 20 and 10 would be scary unless ian has a break out season and the spurs decide to just make some kind of trade in 2010 but we dont got to many pieces to trade unless a 2011 1st round pick
thats how i see it
i rather have a dual of jefferson and aldridge in the future but twolves might not trade a franchise player and we might have to wait until 2012 to get aldridge when duncan contract expires
DPG21920
05-12-2009, 01:49 PM
Yes, Bosh + Duncan in 2010 would be great. Spurs do not have the money in 2010 to get Bosh. Spurs will have some money to spend on a solid player, but not a "max" player like Bosh.
Ditty
05-12-2009, 01:58 PM
Yes, Bosh + Duncan in 2010 would be great. Spurs do not have the money in 2010 to get Bosh. Spurs will have some money to spend on a solid player, but not a "max" player like Bosh.
over 20 million if the salary cap dosent increase i think if it increases 2 million and in 2010 2 million which it probably wont this offseason spurs could have about 30 million i heard which spurs could offer 2 15 mil a year contracts if they dont sign ginobili or anybody else
spurs would offer chris a 6 year 90 million contract and would have about a mle contract offer to still offer which could go to joe johnson or try to resgn ginobili or mason or bring splitter over
DPG21920
05-12-2009, 02:06 PM
over 20 million if the salary cap dosent increase i think if it increases 2 million and in 2010 2 million which it probably wont this offseason spurs could have about 30 million i heard which spurs could offer 2 15 mil a year contracts if they dont sign ginobili or anybody else
spurs would offer chris a 6 year 90 million contract and would have about a mle contract offer to still offer which could go to joe johnson or try to resgn ginobili or mason or bring splitter over
That is wildly incorrect. The Spurs will be at ~35M in 2010 with only TP, TD, Hill and Ian if they pick up his option. If the salary cap is ~58M like this year, that would leave the Spurs with 23M to spend. If they extend Manu at the same pay he is receiving now (if he gets an extension, you have to assume he was healthy, and in that case will not be getting a pay cut) which is ~10M, that leaves the Spurs with 13M to spend on 10 players. Bosh at 90M over 6 years would = 15M per year and the Spurs do not have that and they would be over the cap with only 6 players on the roster.
As you can see, that is not going to happen. Even if the Spurs do not extend Manu, they will have 23M to spend with 4 players on the roster. If they give Bosh 15M they will have 8M to spend with 5 players on the roster. There is no realistic scenario in which Bosh can come to SA.
Ditty
05-12-2009, 02:22 PM
That is wildly incorrect. The Spurs will be at ~35M in 2010 with only TP, TD, Hill and Ian if they pick up his option. If the salary cap is ~58M like this year, that would leave the Spurs with 23M to spend. If they extend Manu at the same pay he is receiving now (if he gets an extension, you have to assume he was healthy, and in that case will not be getting a pay cut) which is ~10M, that leaves the Spurs with 13M to spend on 10 players. Bosh at 90M over 6 years would = 15M per year and the Spurs do not have that and they would be over the cap with only 6 players on the roster.
As you can see, that is not going to happen. Even if the Spurs do not extend Manu, they will have 23M to spend with 4 players on the roster. If they give Bosh 15M they will have 8M to spend with 5 players on the roster. There is no realistic scenario in which Bosh can come to SA.
32 million actually which is actually 26 million to spend thats even with a bad economy the nba will most lilely stll increase the salary cap becasue how well the playoffs have been IMO which could be about 61 million i hope we cant rule this out because with 8 million the spurs could still end up signing a couple of there own role player like gist,hairston, maybe even williams and there 2nd round pick this year
06-07 salary cap:53 million
07-08 salary cap:55 million
08-09 salary cap:58 million
but hoepfully bosh could have has hist contract constucted as he can he a 2 million raise a year which in 2010 could start off his contract at 10 million a year and his last year at 20 million
at best i hope bosh dosent take this amount of money and would settle for maybe no more than 12 million a year but i feel bosh will have a great season this year and will get a good contract but who knows maybe we can land another big guy in a trade will be very intersting
GioSugar
05-12-2009, 03:36 PM
I love to see CB4 at Spurs.He is good on both ends of the court. Seems like something don't work with Triano at Toronto. He is an all star level player. Bosh could be easily our next franchise player. But i don't know if we have enough cap space to offer a max contact. Anyway i could dream about it. TD and CP4 , i love it.
completely deck
05-12-2009, 10:13 PM
Bosh is the black bonner. Plays no D, soft as a pussy, poor shot blocker......ball hog....spurs should not sign him no matter what.
this is either a fakepost or you're really stupid.
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9859/5122009101220pm.gif
completely deck
05-13-2009, 12:30 AM
You fags that clam for bosh, try watching him play, not see a clip on espn and say hes the man. The guys is worthless. Give bonner 40mpg and make him the first option on the team and see if he doesnt give u bosh numbers. You guys are clueless about basketball. Bosh is softer than bonner, hates contact, refuses to play d, and hogs the ball. He suck ass
Did you follow the Spurs this past season? Bonner started.
I really hope you're trolling because I refuse to believe Spurs fans can be that retarded.
lefty
05-13-2009, 12:33 AM
Texas 2 Step (http://spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14505) = bonner
spursbird
05-13-2009, 01:09 AM
You fags that clam for bosh, try watching him play, not see a clip on espn and say hes the man. The guys is worthless. Give bonner 40mpg and make him the first option on the team and see if he doesnt give u bosh numbers. You guys are clueless about basketball. Bosh is softer than bonner, hates contact, refuses to play d, and hogs the ball. He suck ass
Then Bonner would be blocked more than 40 times a game.
And I really wonder why you hate Bosh so much. In your opinion, his defense sucked. So do you think Battier or Dampier would be our savior?
TJastal
05-13-2009, 01:10 AM
Bosh does not suck, he would help boost the spurs stagnant offense immediately upon arrival.
Besides giving us another option as a goto scorer, he is a great passer much like Gasol, runs the break like a gazelle, and is relatively young.
The defense can be learned. That isn't a player problem that is a team philosophy problem IMO.
Signing Bosh would be a huge step in the right direction for the spurs, and the funny thing is, only a small percentage of the ppl on this board realize it.
TJastal
05-13-2009, 01:11 AM
Did you follow the Spurs this past season? Bonner started.
I really hope you're trolling because I refuse to believe Spurs fans can be that retarded.
I think he really is that retarded.
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