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Yonivore
05-12-2009, 07:32 PM
...Obama received from former President Bush is finally starting to sink in.

Today, he put McChrystal in charge of Afghanistan. For the unitiated, McChrystal is the guy Seymour Hersch said ran the Bushitler/Darth Cheney torture chambers and death squads. Surely, that couldn't have escaped Obama.

Obama administration threatens Britain to keep torture evidence concealed (http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/05/12/obama/)



This afternoon, Robert Gibbs sounded like a man preparing us for a reversal on the photo release. Bill Kristol writes (http://weeklystandard.com/Weblogs/TWSFP/TWSFPView.asp#11533):


I expect him to announce, perhaps citing his discussions today with General Odierno and Ambassador Chris Hill, that he’s decided it would be damaging to our soldiers and the nation to release these photos. At the very least, Obama will order an appeal of the 2nd Circuit decision that required that the photos be released. I wouldn’t be surprised if he went even further and took Andy McCarthy’s suggestion (http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YzkxYTE3ODI4YjAyOWY2YTUyMmJkOTAxZGZlOWZmMjg=) and issued an executive order exempting such photos from FOIA requests.

It's as if he's waking up to discover there are bad people out there willing to use our idiots on the left to help justify their rage. It can't be that they're just terrorists.

Nah.
LnGrrrR
05-12-2009, 08:25 PM
If he wants to reverse his stance on eliminating torture, fuck him.

I thought you conservatives wanted transparency from this admin? lol
Yonivore
05-12-2009, 08:30 PM
If he wants to reverse his stance on eliminating torture, fuck him.

I thought you conservatives wanted transparency from this admin? lol
I want to prevent our homeland from being attacked again, first; win the war on terrorism, second; watch Obama's socialist agenda go down in flames, third.

I want him to fail - domestically. (Have to qualify that now, I guess)
Wild Cobra
05-12-2009, 09:37 PM
I thought you conservatives wanted transparency from this admin? lol
I'm less concerned about transparency as I am with the integrity of our president. He has none! I think it's the same for most conservatives. With all his faults, at least president Bush had integrity.
Marcus Bryant
05-12-2009, 10:41 PM
Bush had "integrity" when he did it, and Obama has none when he does it.

I'm wondering if it was the same kind of integrity which resulted in Medicare Part D, rammed through the Congress by the alleged "conservative."
Yonivore
05-12-2009, 10:56 PM
Bush had "integrity" when he did it, and Obama has none when he does it.

I'm wondering if it was the same kind of integrity which resulted in Medicare Part D, rammed through the Congress by the alleged "conservative."
President Bush never railed against the ideas and actions he eventually employed. Obama spent the past couple of years condemning Bush for the things to which he's now finding he must resort.

There's the difference.
Marcus Bryant
05-12-2009, 11:02 PM
Bush deplored nation-building when he ran for the presidency the first time. Then you spent the last several years ripping off blogs with posts in here defending his decision to preemptively invade another nation and rebuild it.
Wild Cobra
05-12-2009, 11:27 PM
Bush had "integrity" when he did it, and Obama has none when he does it.

I'm wondering if it was the same kind of integrity which resulted in Medicare Part D, rammed through the Congress by the alleged "conservative."
I'm mixed on that one. I am only for social spending for the elderly, disabled, and short term programs. Not as a way of life for people.

Still, right or wrong in ones view of the program, how did president Bush lack integrity in getting it implemented?
Wild Cobra
05-12-2009, 11:29 PM
Bush deplored nation-building when he ran for the presidency the first time. Then you spent the last several years ripping off blogs with posts in here defending his decision to preemptively invade another nation and rebuild it.
Things change when you sit in different chairs. There's changing one's mind, and there's lying. I honestly believe he changed his mind after seeing the facts, and after 9/11.
Winehole23
05-13-2009, 08:50 AM
9/11 had what to do with Iraq?
JoeChalupa
05-13-2009, 08:57 AM
I'm less concerned about transparency as I am with the integrity of our president. He has none! I think it's the same for most conservatives. With all his faults, at least president Bush had integrity.

Integrity!?!? :lmao :lmao
FaithInOne
05-13-2009, 09:32 AM
I thought you conservatives wanted transparency from this admin? lol

lulz, say whaaaaat?

Your president ran on transparency. YOU believed you would get it.

Us conservatives were rightfully skeptical and apparently justifiably so.


Damn Obama for running on the "different" politician schtick. Now when an actual different politician runs no one will believe him! :lmao Obama has strengthened my hope in my cynicism. Thanks Barry.
Marcus Bryant
05-13-2009, 09:52 AM
Things change when you sit in different chairs. There's changing one's mind, and there's lying. I honestly believe he changed his mind after seeing the facts, and after 9/11.

Why is it assumed that Obama is "lying"? He is sitting in a different chair now, is he not?

Conservatives need to flush Bush down the memory hole and redefine conservatism, instead of moving forward trying to split differences between the previous and current administration. In case you weren't paying attention, that's what lost the GOP the last presidential election.
Wild Cobra
05-13-2009, 11:24 AM
9/11 had what to do with Iraq?
If you don't know by now, after all the debates on the subject, you're a lost cause.
Wild Cobra
05-13-2009, 11:27 AM
Why is it assumed that Obama is "lying"? He is sitting in a different chair now, is he not?

I'm sure that applies in some areas. I even said it would likely happen in one of the primary election threads. I have problems with his integrity in general, and don't trust his word. I at least knew where president Bush stood.
sabar
05-13-2009, 01:55 PM
Why is it assumed that Obama is "lying"? He is sitting in a different chair now, is he not?

Conservatives need to flush Bush down the memory hole and redefine conservatism, instead of moving forward trying to split differences between the previous and current administration. In case you weren't paying attention, that's what lost the GOP the last presidential election.

Most people have. Note it is the same 3-4 people that vehemently defend the prior administration.