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Yonivore
05-12-2009, 09:46 PM
...have to worry about the media being a buzz kill on his war.

Last week a U.S. airstrike aimed at Taliban extremists killed as many as 130 civilians (http://in.reuters.com/article/southAsiaNews/idINIndia-39552320090511). If the figure is confirmed, it would be the most devastating attack on civilians since 2001.

But you didn't read it in your newspaper. And you didn't hear it on the news.

Why is the media silent?

During the Bush administration, this would have run for several news cycles...

Oh, yeah, candidate Obama would have spouted off some shit about how we're indiscriminately bombing villages and civilians.

Like I said, this guy is getting a heapin' dose of reality.

'Bout fucking time.

ChumpDumper
05-12-2009, 10:10 PM
If it's not in the news, why is it in Reuters?

Yonivore
05-12-2009, 10:14 PM
If it's not in the news, why is it in Reuters?
Nice try...

ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, The New York Times, Washington Post, et. al. would have run this story ad naseum prior to January 21st...and you know it....and it would have led the news and been above the fold on the front page.

balli
05-12-2009, 10:17 PM
I heard about it from several different mainstream media sources; including both the NYT and WP. Lol at Yoni citing a Reuters article as an example of a story not being covered by the press. Thanks for pointing that out Chump. Yoni- you're an idiot.

When the fuck is this clown going to get pinked? I'm sick of seeing 20 worthless threads a day/every time yoni has some asinine thought pop into his empty and bitter skull.

ChumpDumper
05-12-2009, 10:19 PM
U.S. Admits Civilians Died in Afghan Raids

By ELISABETH BUMILLER and CARLOTTA GALL
Published: May 7, 2009

WASHINGTON — United States officials acknowledged Thursday for the first time that at least some of what might be 100 civilian deaths in western Afghanistan had been caused by American bombs. In Afghanistan, residents angrily protested the deaths and demanded that American forces leave the country....

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/08/world/asia/08afghan.html

Yonivore
05-12-2009, 10:23 PM
I heard about it from several different mainstream media sources. Lol at Yoni citing a Reuters article as an example of a story not being covered by the press. Thanks for pointing that out Chump. Yoni- you're an idiot.
No, this story would have come to my attention in a Bush administration because the media would have saturated coverage until no one had been spared. We would have been treated to footage of wailing mommas and funerals in Afghanistan. There would have been wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth.

Sorry, if it was in the media, it was downplayed...especially for being the largest civilian casaulty count since the 9/11.


When the fuck is this clown going to get pinked? I'm sick of seeing 20 worthless threads a day/every time yoni has some asinine thought pop into his empty and bitter skull.
It's called the ignore feature. It'll cure your illness.

Winehole23
05-12-2009, 10:24 PM
I posted a thread on this.

Yonivore
05-12-2009, 10:25 PM
U.S. Admits Civilians Died in Afghan Raids

By ELISABETH BUMILLER and CARLOTTA GALL
Published: May 7, 2009

WASHINGTON — United States officials acknowledged Thursday for the first time that at least some of what might be 100 civilian deaths in western Afghanistan had been caused by American bombs. In Afghanistan, residents angrily protested the deaths and demanded that American forces leave the country....

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/08/world/asia/08afghan.html
Y'all have fun...but, posting stories doesn't resolve the fact this was not hyped like it would have been in the Bush administration. And, you know it.

Ballijuana, get ready for my next thread...unless, of course, I get "pinked."

Yonivore
05-12-2009, 10:25 PM
I posted a thread on this.
Well, that's as good as leading the CBS news.

Winehole23
05-12-2009, 10:27 PM
Too-shay.

You were acting like you discovered it or something.

balli
05-12-2009, 10:27 PM
It's called the ignore feature. It'll cure your illness.
lol at yoni comparing himself to infectious disease.

ChumpDumper
05-12-2009, 10:27 PM
Afghan civilian toll is lower than reported, U.S. officials say

Pentagon officials believe U.S. airstrikes killed 12 civilians after Afghan soldiers requested help in fighting Taliban militants. Afghan officials have said as many as 147 were slain.
By Julian E. Barnes
May 9, 2009
Reporting from Washington -- Pentagon officials believe that about 12 civilians were killed in U.S. airstrikes this week in Afghanistan, far fewer than numbers cited by Afghan provincial officials and the Red Cross.

Provincial officials said as many as 147 people were killed in fighting between insurgents and Afghan soldiers backed by U.S. forces. The International Committee of the Red Cross also has said there was a high civilian death toll.

Officials of the U.S.-led military command planned a news conference in Afghanistan today to discuss the incident....

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-afghan-deaths9-2009may09,0,2541153.story

ChumpDumper
05-12-2009, 10:29 PM
Karzai reflects on relationship with United States

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Afghan President Hamid Karzai discussed his sometimes-turbulent relationship with the United States on Friday as more details emerged about U.S. airstrikes in his country that killed dozens of people this week.
Afghan President Hamid Karzai said his government does not tolerate corruption.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai said his government does not tolerate corruption.

Karzai reflected on the past seven years of his leadership of Afghanistan and characterized his relationship with the United States as having "serious bumps along the way, especially in the conduct of the war on terror."

The theme he emphasized Friday was the problem of Afghan civilian casualties caused by American airstrikes. Karzai said he has raised the issue repeatedly since 2007.

"We have complained bitterly about civilian casualties," he said. "We needed to get Washington's attention."

The issue of civilian deaths has been at the foreground of Karzai's trip to Washington, where he's meeting with President Obama and other top officials. Afghan officials say that more than 100 civilians were killed in a U.S. airstrike Wednesday in Farah province, on the western border with Iran.

If that death toll is confirmed, it will be the single deadliest incident involving Afghan civilians since the American-led invasion of the country in 2001 to oust the Taliban from power.

A senior U.S. military official said Friday that 30 to 50 people were killed in the strikes, most of them insurgents. But the rest were civilians, including women and children....

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/08/afghanistan.karzai/

ChumpDumper
05-12-2009, 10:31 PM
Afghan Civilian Deaths Present U.S. With Strategic Problem

By Greg Jaffe
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, May 8, 2009

KABUL, May 7 -- The deaths of more than two dozen civilians in fighting this week in western Afghanistan highlight a problem for senior U.S. officials who want to apologize quickly for any American mistakes while also arguing that the Taliban is the main cause of suffering in the country.

"We regret any -- even one -- Afghan civilian casualty and will make whatever amends are necessary," Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates told reporters Thursday during a visit to Kabul, the capital. A day earlier, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Army Gen. David D. McKiernan, had said there may be another explanation for the civilian deaths in Farah province aside from U.S. airstrikes....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/07/AR2009050702833.html?hpid=topnews

ChumpDumper
05-12-2009, 10:36 PM
Losing Hearts and Minds and Lives in Afghanistan

By Jason Motlagh / Kabul Thursday, May. 07, 2009

Afghanistan is in an uproar following U.S. airstrikes that may have killed more than 100 civilians in the western part of the country. Reports from Farah province said that on Thursday a mob of several hundred protesters chanted anti-American slogans and threw rocks outside at provincial governor's office before being disbursed by police gunfire. In Kabul, outraged lawmakers called for new laws to clamp down on foreign military operations. Ahead of talks with President Obama in Washington, Afghan President Hamid Karzai bluntly said the deaths were "unjustifiable and unacceptable."

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http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1896718,00.html

ChumpDumper
05-12-2009, 10:53 PM
It's pretty clear that Yoni was too preoccupied with mustard and his Nancy Drew Air Force One mystery to pay attention to the media this past week.

Why do idiots never watch/read the mainstream media, then bitch about what they do or don't cover?