All nba teams: Tim 2nd team, tony 3rd

[sonic21]

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/05/12/allnba.team.release/?cid=playoff1

1st team

F Lebron
F Dirk
C Dwight
G Kobe
G Dwade

2nd team

F Timmy
F Pierce
C Yao
G Roy
G cp3

3rd team

F Carmelo
F Pau Gasol
C Shaq
G Billups
G Tony

[bdictjames]

Tim had 4 more first place votes than Dirk and still wound up on the second team.

[duncan228]

Duncan, Parker named All-NBA (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/2009/05/duncan-parker-n.html)
By Jeff McDonald

First, the headline that barely qualifies as news: Tim Duncan has been named to his 12th All-NBA team in as many seasons.

Now, the headline that does qualify as news: Tony Parker has been named to his first All-NBA team.

The league released its list of honorees this afternoon. Duncan wound up on the second team, trailing league MVP LeBron James and Dallas' Dirk Nowitzki at the forward slots. It is Duncan's third second-team selection in four seasons. He was a first-teamer eight times.

Duncan actually received more first-team votes than Nowitzki (39 to 35) but the Mavericks forward garnered more total points.

Parker, meanwhile, showed up on the third team, after producing the finest season of his NBA career. Parker averaged 22 points and 6.9 assists per game, both personal bests.

[EricB]

Dirk over Duncan?

Fuck that shit.

[FromWayDowntown]

That's 12 straight years that Tim Duncan has been either 1st Team or 2nd Team All-NBA. There are only 3 players in history who've made more All-NBA teams: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (15), Karl Malone (14), and Shaquille O'Neal (13). There are another 5 players who've made 12 All-NBA teams (Dolph Schayes, Jerry West, Bob Cousy, Julius Erving, and Hakeem Olajuwon). But Shaq and Hakeem each made All-NBA several times on the 3rd Team.

There are only 6 players in history who've been 1st or 2nd team All-NBA at least 12 times:

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (10x 1st team, 5x 2nd team)
Karl Malone (11x 1st team, 2x 2nd team -- also 1x 3rd team)
Jerry West (10x 1st team, 2x 2nd team)
Bob Cousy (10x 1st team, 2x 2nd team)
Tim Duncan (9x 1st team, 3x 2nd team)
Dolph Schayes (6x 1st team, 6x 2nd team)

Julius Erving was on the 1st or 2nd team All-ABA on 5 different occasions and the 1st or 2nd team All-NBA on 7 different occasions, too.

Duncan's feat is pretty damned remarkable.

[FromWayDowntown]

Oh, and big props to Tony Parker for making his first All-NBA team. That's a tremendous accomplishment for any player and a great testament to just how hard Tony Parker has worked to become a truly elite player in the NBA. Here's to several more in the coming years.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I thought Dirk was in a slump in regular season. :pctoss
I guess Tim's last two months took him out of the running for getting another 1st team selection.

Oh well, everything is gravy by this point. :lol He's already had so many consecutive 1st teams.

Good job on Tony making 3rd. Spurs have big three have been upping their games. Manu 3rd last year. Tony 3rd this year.

I think Tony will stay on contending for All-NBA guard spots from here on out.

[duncan228]

Duncan's feat is pretty damned remarkable.

It really is. :)

Thanks for the info. If you don't mind I'd like to quote you in the Duncan Mini Forum.

[FromWayDowntown]

Tim had 4 more first place votes than Dirk and still wound up on the second team.

Yeah, Timmy just missed out on being 1st team again.

And Parker got a First Team vote -- interesting.

[1Parker1]

Roy and CP3 over Parker? I'd argue Parker had an amazing season...more deserving of All NBA 2nd team. And Dirk making first team? :lol

Either way, major props to both our Spurs players! :tu

[HarlemHeat37]

Duncan was playing MVP basketball before his injury, so he would have been a lock..

[Thomas82]

Tim had 4 more first place votes than Dirk and still wound up on the second team.

I'm still trying to figure out how that happened.

[completely deck]

i don't get why he's second behind Dirk..... Oh well.

[manufan10]

I was thinking the same thing when I saw it. Roy in front of Tony? CP3 in front of Tony? He really kept the Spurs competitive with the injuries to Duncan and Ginobili. Dirk in front of Tim? That's just crazy.

[DPG21920]

I am not going to dwell on who should have been where. I am just going to say congrats to TD and TP for a huge accomplishment. All NBA Team >>>>>>>>>>>All Star

[baseline bum]

Congrats to the TnT crew. :toast

[lefty]

Jumpin Dwight and shooting Dirk instead of TD?

Damn WTF

[kace]

well, pretty accurate all NBA teams IMO.

congrats to our two players.

Having three players who have been in all nba teams recently should be a sign of hope for the spurs. i don't think there is another team who has three all nba teams players in the last 2 years.

EDIT: the suns have actually three players who have been in the all nba teams in the last 2 years with shaq, nash and stoudemire. are there others ?

[41times]

I'm still trying to figure out how that happened.

Well they are both great players for sure.

But Dirk avg 25 points and 8 rebounds during the regular season and played every game.

And now he is averaging 33 pionts and 12 rebounds this playoff series. I think that probably gave him the slight edge.

[FromWayDowntown]

And now he is averaging 33 pionts and 12 rebounds this playoff series. I think that probably gave him the slight edge.

I'm absolutely certain that Dirk's play in the playoffs has nothing to do with whether he made 1st or 2nd team.

Those votes were all cast before the playoffs started.

[Spurs Brazil]

Congrats to TD and TP!!

[Bruno]

Dirk above TD is logical.
For Parker, it was a tossup between him, Billups and Roy. He could have made the 2nd team instead of Roy but there is nothing wrong with Roy being above him.

Anyway, congrats to both.

[ducks]

:bang:bang
Dirk over Duncan?

Fuck that shit.

truth this year:bang:bang

[urunobili]

All NBA Team >>>>>>>>>>>All Star

Manu said this last year :tu

[ploto]

Looks right to me. TP and Chauncey had great seasons, but so did Roy. When you consider that TD is on the Spurs and Carmelo is on Denver, I think it gives more clout to the guy who is the only All- NBA player on his team and what that team accomplished.

[poop]

And now he is averaging 33 pionts, 20 off of gift freethrows and 12 rebounds this playoff series. I think that probably gave him the slight edge.

fixed

[Obstructed_View]

Dirk was fourth in the league in scoring. I'm not sure how he wouldn't be first team.

[duncan228]

Spurs.com.

Tim Duncan and Tony Parker Earn All-NBA Honors (http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/duncan_parker_allnba_090513.html)

SAN ANTONIO - The NBA announced today that Tim Duncan and Tony Parker both earned spots on the league's All-NBA Teams.

Duncan was named to the All-NBA Second Team, making him the only player in NBA history to be named to an All-NBA Team in each of his first 12 seasons (First Team – 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007; Second Team – 2006, 2008, 2009). He joins Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (15), Shaquille O’Neal (14), Karl Malone (14), Dolph Schayes (12) Bob Cousy (12), Jerry West (12) and Hakeem Olajuwon (12) as one of just eight players to have been named to an All-NBA Team 12 or more times.

Parker earned All-NBA Third Team honors becoming the first Spurs point guard to be named to an All-NBA Team and just the fifth European player (Dirk Nowtizki, Peja Stojakovic, Drazen Petrovic and Detlef Schrempf) to be selected to an All-NBA Team.

Duncan posted 19.3 points, a team-high 10.7 rebounds, 3.5 assists and 1.68 blocks in 75 games. He ranked fourth in the NBA in rebounding, fourth in double-doubles with 49, and 11th in blocks. During the season he surpassed David Robinson on the Spurs all-time career rebounding list and now ranks 28th on the NBA’s all-time list. He finished the season in 40th place on the league’s all-time scoring list with 19,226 points and 12th on the NBA’s all-time blocked shots list with 2,117. He is just one of three active players (Shaquille O’Neal and Kevin Garnett are the others) to rank in the Top 50 on the NBA’s all-time scoring, rebounding and blocks list.

Parker enjoyed the best season of his career, averaging a team-best 22.0 points, a career-best 6.9 assists and 3.1 rebounds in 71 games. He was one of only two players (joining Chris Paul) in the NBA to shoot better than .500 (.506 (639-1,236)) from the field and average more than 5.0 assists per game. Parker scored a career-high 55 points while handing out 10 assists and grabbing seven rebounds at Minnesota on Nov. 5, to become just the second player in NBA history to record at least 55 points, 10-plus assists and 5-plus rebounds in a game joining Oscar Robertson.

LeBron James of the Cleveland Cavaliers, the 2008-09 Most Valuable Player, was a unanimous selection to the 2008-09 All-NBA First Team. Joining James on the First Team are Kobe Bryant of the Los Angeles Lakers, Dwight Howard of the Orlando Magic, Dirk Nowitzki of the Dallas Mavericks and Dwyane Wade of the Miami Heat.

James, who earns First Team honors for the second straight season, ranked second in the NBA in scoring (28.4 ppg), eighth in steals (1.69 spg) and 10th in assists (7.2 apg) to go along with averages of 7.6 rebounds and 1.1 blocks. James guided the Cavaliers to a franchise-best 66-16 record overall and a 39-2 mark at home, both tops in the league.

Bryant, the 2007-08 Most Valuable Player, finished third in the league in scoring (26.8 ppg), while averaging 5.2 rebounds and 4.9 assists. Bryant led the Lakers to a Western Conference-best 65-17 record. Among active players, only Tim Duncan (nine) and Shaquille O’Neal (eight) have more First Team selections.

Howard, an All-NBA First Team selection for the second consecutive season, led the NBA in rebounding (13.8 rpg) and blocks (2.9 bpg), becoming only the fourth player to pace the league in both categories since 1973-74, the first season where blocks were kept as an official statistic. Howard led the Magic in scoring (20.6 ppg), while shooting .572 from the field.

Earning his fourth First Team selection, Nowitzki was the league’s fourth-leading scorer (25.9 ppg), while also averaging 8.4 rebounds. His .890 free throw percentage ranked seventh overall. Nowitzki finished the season by scoring at least 20 points in 25 straight games, the longest such streak in the NBA this season.

Wade earns his first All-NBA First Team selection after ranking first in scoring (30.2 ppg), second in steals (1.7 spg) and eighth in assists (6.7 apg). He also averaged 5.0 rebounds and 1.3 blocks. Wade became only the fifth player in league history to reach 2,000 points, 500 assists, and 150 steals in a single season.

The All-NBA Second Team consists of New Orleans’ Chris Paul and Portland’s Brandon Roy at guard, Duncan and Boston’s Paul Pierce at forward, and Houston’s Yao Ming at center.

The All-NBA Third Team includes Denver’s Chauncey Billups and Parker at guard, Denver’s Carmelo Anthony and the Los Angeles Lakers’ Pau Gasol at forward and Phoenix's Shaquille O'Neal at center.

The All-NBA Teams were chosen by a panel of 122 sportswriters and broadcasters throughout the United States and Canada. The media voted for All-NBA First, Second and Third Teams by position with points awarded on a 5-3-1 basis.

[TMTTRIO]

Congrats to Tony. This is a huge accomplishment.



Manu said this last year :tu

Actually I thought Manu was comparing it to that useless 6th MOY trophy he was awarded last year. I know he wasn't that happy about it. Manu didn't even seem that happy to be on the 3rd team.

[kace]

Dirk was fourth in the league in scoring. I'm not sure how he wouldn't be first team.

why ?

in 08: 3rd and 4th scorers weren't on the first all nba team
in 07: 2nd, 3rd and 4th leading scorers weren't
in 06: 3rd and 4th
in 05: 2nd and 4th

4th leading scorer is far from automatically giving a first team selection.

in 04, even the leading scorer, T-Mac, wasn't in the first team.

[silverblackfan]

Congrats to Tim and Tony. Funny, but looking at that list, I think the 2nd team could take the 1st team.

[Bukefal]

Nice, but TP should have been in a higher team. but well congrats on his 1st time!

[fyatuk]

Spurs.com.

Tim Duncan and Tony Parker Earn All-NBA Honors (http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/duncan_parker_allnba_090513.html)

James, who earns First Team honors for the second straight season, ranked second in the NBA in scoring (28.4 ppg), eighth in steals (1.69 spg) and 10th in assists (7.2 apg) to go along with averages of 7.6 rebounds and 1.1 blocks. James guided the Cavaliers to a franchise-best 66-16 record overall and a 39-2 mark at home, both tops in the league.

Wade earns his first All-NBA First Team selection after ranking first in scoring (30.2 ppg), second in steals (1.7 spg) and eighth in assists (6.7 apg). He also averaged 5.0 rebounds and 1.3 blocks. Wade became only the fifth player in league history to reach 2,000 points, 500 assists, and 150 steals in a single season.


Can someone please tell me how 6.7 apg is 8th, while 7.2 is 10th?

Per NBA.com, Wade was 8th at 7.5, and James tied for 9th at 7.2, for the record.

[45 bank shot]

Tim had 4 more first place votes than Dirk and still wound up on the second team.

Ye it sux
but Timmy was playin hurt after all-star break, so he prolly didn't deserve first team

[dirk4mvp]

Congrats to Tim and Tony. Funny, but looking at that list, I think the 2nd team could take the 1st team.

:lmao :lmao

[VI_Massive]

I'm OK with TD getting second team, but it should be at center not forward. Positions aren't carved in stone or anything, but he was definitely more of a center this year than a forward.

[Brazil]

Well not a lot of things to celebrate this year so its cool to see the first all nba team for TP and the 12th for Tim. Other than that it's a season to forget.

[Marcus Bryant]

TP got hosed.

[SouthTexasRancher]

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/05/12/allnba.team.release/?cid=playoff1

1st team

F Lebron
F Dirk
C Dwight
G Kobe
G Dwade

2nd team

F Timmy
F Pierce
C Yao
G Roy
G cp3

3rd team

F Carmelo
F Pau Gasol
C Shaq
G Billups
G Tony


Rigged, of course. Really, really RIGGED...!!!

[Rapper]

First team means everything ,second team means nothing

God damn

F Dirk Nowitzki (Mavericks) 35 383

F Tim Duncan (Spurs) 39 378

[Rapper]

Dirk just gets higher score than Timmy by 5

383 VS 378

[duncan228]

First team means everything ,second team means nothing

Second team is incredible. There are over 400 guys in the NBA, only 15 of them make any All-NBA team.

Instead of being upset about it, be proud of how incredible Duncan's streak is. :)


That's 12 straight years that Tim Duncan has been either 1st Team or 2nd Team All-NBA. There are only 3 players in history who've made more All-NBA teams: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (15), Karl Malone (14), and Shaquille O'Neal (13). There are another 5 players who've made 12 All-NBA teams (Dolph Schayes, Jerry West, Bob Cousy, Julius Erving, and Hakeem Olajuwon). But Shaq and Hakeem each made All-NBA several times on the 3rd Team.

There are only 6 players in history who've been 1st or 2nd team All-NBA at least 12 times:

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (10x 1st team, 5x 2nd team)
Karl Malone (11x 1st team, 2x 2nd team -- also 1x 3rd team)
Jerry West (10x 1st team, 2x 2nd team)
Bob Cousy (10x 1st team, 2x 2nd team)
Tim Duncan (9x 1st team, 3x 2nd team)
Dolph Schayes (6x 1st team, 6x 2nd team)

Julius Erving was on the 1st or 2nd team All-ABA on 5 different occasions and the 1st or 2nd team All-NBA on 7 different occasions, too.

Duncan's feat is pretty damned remarkable.

[CubanMustGo]

Tim would probably be the first to say his play this year didn't warrant first-team all-NBA honors.

[Rapper]

Second team is incredible. There are over 400 guys in the NBA, only 15 of them make any All-NBA team.

Instead of being upset about it, be proud of how incredible Duncan's streak is. :)

You are right and i know what you mean

But....but i'm still being upset about the result, honestly:depressed

Anyway, i know this is such an honor for Timmy

Hopefully Timmy will play well next season

[tlongII]

Congrats to B-Roy!

[duncan228]

Tim would probably be the first to say his play this year didn't warrant first-team all-NBA honors.

Agreed.

I'm a pretty big Duncan homer, I'm fine with second team. He started so strong but the tendonosis, combined with his left knee already bothering him, really impacted him from February on.

[Galileo]

Based on the math, assuming Duncan was on all ballots, he got:

39 x 5 = 195 off 1st team votes
50 x 3 = 150 off 2nd team votes
33 x 1 = 33 off 3rd team votes

122 votes for 378 points

Dirk had to be off at least one ballot. If so, he got:

35 x 5 = 175 off 1st team votes
61 x 3 = 183 off 2nd team votes
25 x 1 = 25 off 3rd team votes

121 votes for 383 points

This is a total sham to think that 33 voters thought there were THREE other forwards in the NBA (besides Lebron), who were better than Duncan. What a joke.

You'd have to think that Dirk, Pierce, and Gasol were ALL better than Duncan to think that!

Right.

Duncan is easily the best defender and easily the best shot blocker.

Duncan is easily the best rebounder.

Duncan had the best assist/TO ratio.

Duncan was a clutch player, as the Spurs won a lot of close games.

Duncan's scoring is about the same as Gasol's and Pierce's and a couple baskets below Dirk.

Duncan shot over 50% as well.

PER leaders:

Duncan 5th in NBA
Dirk 9th
Gasol 12th
Pierce not in top 20

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2009_leaders.html

And intangibles, Duncan is again the best of this group. Duncan sets picks like the Dickens and is the best team leader in the game. He does not showboat like Lebron (its fun for awhile, but wears thin)

What an effin robbery!! RECOUNT! And I thought Ted Stevens, Kerry and Algore got robbed!!! GEEEEZ!!!!

[Galileo]

Frankly, only 39 1st team votes (out of 122) for Tim is another EFFIN JOKE.

None of these other pretenders for the slot next to Lebron is even in Tim's league on D.

And Tim is better on offense than Pierce, Dirk or Gasol if you factor in offensive rebounding, passing, moving w/out the ball & pick setting. Tim's team plays at a slower pace which suppresses his stats.

Up yours, Stern!

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Dirk ahead of Duncan is a joke.

Congrats to Parker, well deserved. I think Parker deserved 2nd team. He carried this fucking team that started Bonner and Finley all season, and made opposing defenses look silly almost single handedly when the team was short handed.

If he were American-born, more people would rate him over Chris Fall.

[polandprzem]

:pctoss


Tims resume is falling ...

[duncan228]

:pctoss


Tims resume is falling ...

No. It's not. Not making any All-NBA Team would be falling. For Duncan, making the Third Team would be falling. He was second last year, he's second this year. He didn't fall. It's okay. :)

[HarlemHeat37]

Duncan didn't deserve 1st team over Dirk...you guys are arguing that Timmy is the better player, which he clearly is, but that isn't what the accolade is based on..

Duncan had an average 2nd half of the season by his standards, obviously due to the injuries..

[Obstructed_View]

why ?

in 08: 3rd and 4th scorers weren't on the first all nba team
in 07: 2nd, 3rd and 4th leading scorers weren't
in 06: 3rd and 4th
in 05: 2nd and 4th

4th leading scorer is far from automatically giving a first team selection.

in 04, even the leading scorer, T-Mac, wasn't in the first team.

Good points. Allow me to amend: He was 4th in the league in scoring and had very good numbers in all other categories. After watching his playoff performance, I can't say there's any reason to disagree with the pick.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Actually I thought Manu was comparing it to that useless 6th MOY trophy he was awarded last year. I know he wasn't that happy about it. Manu didn't even seem that happy to be on the 3rd team.
You're mistaken, Manu said it was WAYYYY better than the sixth man award because it was voted by the coaches, and meant a lot more to him as far as recognition for his game/contributions to the team, etc.

I can't find it, or the quotes, but I remember there was an article right before around the 2nd round, and he commented it before one of the Playoff games, said it was a good confidence booster.

[polandprzem]

No. It's not. Not making any All-NBA Team would be falling. For Duncan, making the Third Team would be falling. He was second last year, he's second this year. He didn't fall. It's okay. :)

We got to deal with it


It is what it is :D

[cp3forever]

Both TD and CP3 should be in 1st team.

[romain.star]

Both TD and CP3 should be in 1st team.

yeah? 1st team? and what do you do with Wade, Bryant ant James?

[afireinside20]

Fuck the people who are in charge of making the teams. Typical NBA overlooking the Spurs players.

[spursbird]

Whatever, congrats to TD and TP. You made Spurs one of the only two teams which has two players in the all nba team.

[diego]

congrats tony. the only reason roy got in ahead is because he doesnt have a duncan with him

[sonic21]

dirk being in the 1st team is normal, he did have a better year compared to tim's

[Showtime24 LAKERS]

Sometimes I think it's just because he's Tim Duncan. Not discount what he has done at all, but it's pretty much a given that when talking about the best players in the league Duncan's gotta be in the mix.

As for Pau got 2 1st team vote...If he continues to play like this he would get to the 2nd team next season.