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Nbadan
03-26-2005, 04:52 AM
ROME — The U.S. military command in Iraq has blocked two Italian policemen from examining the car in which an Italian intelligence agent was shot to death in Baghdad, a newspaper said Wednesday.

Corriere della Sera said that the policemen were about to leave when the Italian Embassy in Baghdad received an order from the U.S. command on Monday to abort the mission for security concerns.

The embassy in Baghdad reportedly alerted Rome authorities, who called off the trip.

The car, a Toyota Corolla, is reportedly still in American hands, at Baghdad airport where it was originally rented.

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Italian authorities say that examining the vehicle is key to assessing what happened on March 4, when U.S. troops opened fire on the car carrying secret service agent Nicola Calipari, another intelligence officer and journalist Giuliana Sgrena, who had just been released after a month of captivity in Iraq.

...more...Army Times (http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-740304.php)

...But, but, we have nothing to hide, right?


NAOMI KLEIN: One of the things that we keep hearing is that she was fired on on the road to the airport, which is a notoriously dangerous road. In fact, it's often described as the most dangerous road in the world. So this is treated as a fairly common and understandable incident that there would be a shooting like this on that road. And I was on that road myself, and it is a really treacherous place with explosions going off all the time and a lot of checkpoints.

What Giuliana told me that I had not realized before is that she wasn't on that road at all. She was on a completely different road that I actually didn't know existed. It's a secured road that you can only enter through the Green Zone and is reserved exclusively for ambassadors and top military officials. So, when Calipari, the Italian security intelligence officer, released her from captivity, they drove directly to the Green Zone, went through the elaborate checkpoint process which everyone must go through to enter the Green Zone, which involves checking in obviously with U.S. forces, and then they drove onto this secured road.

And the other thing that Giuliana told me that she's quite frustrated about is the description of the vehicle that fired on her as being part of a checkpoint. She says it wasn't a checkpoint at all. It was simply a tank that was parked on the side of the road that opened fire on them. There was no process of trying to stop the car, she said, or any signals. From her perspective, they were just -- it was just opening fire by a tank.

The other thing she told me that was surprising to me was that they were fired on from behind. Because I think part of what we're hearing is that the U.S. soldiers opened fire on their car, because they didn't know who they were, and they were afraid. It was self-defense, they were afraid. The fear, of course, is that their car might blow up or that they might come under attack themselves.

And what Giuliana Sgrena really stressed with me was that she -- the bullet that injured her so badly and that killed Calipari, came from behind, entered the back seat of the car. And the only person who was not severely injured in the car was the driver, and she said that this is because the shots weren't coming from the front or even from the side. They were coming from behind, i.e. they were driving away. So, the idea that this was an act of self-defense, I think becomes much more questionable. And that detail may explain why there's some reticence to give up the vehicle for inspection. Because if indeed the majority

Democracy Now (http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/25/1516242)

Nothing to see here folks, move along!

Clandestino
03-26-2005, 10:12 AM
her story CHANGES everytime she tells it. what to you expect from a communist though?

JoeChalupa
03-26-2005, 11:21 AM
Sometime stories change...like immediate threat...evil dictator....wmd's....liberation of the Iraqi people...spreading democracy.

Useruser666
03-26-2005, 02:59 PM
If a tank shot at her then why does the pictures of her car have NO noticable holes in it?

Remember the pictures YOU posted Dan?

This is a fucking ridiculous thread anyway. Why would the US military purposely try and kill this woman? TELL ME THAT DAN!!! Come in here and accuse the US military of attempting to assasinate this person. Just come out and state that.

Nbadan
03-27-2005, 05:19 AM
If a tank shot at her then why does the pictures of her car have NO noticable holes in it?

All the pictures I have seen, including the ones I posted, were from the front of the car.

I've posted before that I thought this was probably an unfortunate incident in a unfortunate war, but this doesn't mean that this should give the U.S. a carte blanc excuse to help cover up for this, or similiar incidents in this ridiculous war, without a complete investigation to the satisfaction of authorities of both countries, so as to avoid the appearance of impropriety.

Clandestino
03-27-2005, 09:03 AM
i don't care if the pictures you posted were just of the tires.. if a tank's 50 cal hit shot the car 300-400 times like she said there would be noticeabe damage..