Trade Kobe

[IronMexican]

http://frankthetank.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/kobe-bryant-bulls.jpg

I can't wait to hear him sound so cool, calm and collective in the post-game.

[Spursfan092120]

Trade Kobe? wow

[coldsweat]

don't be an idiot.

[IronMexican]

Did you see him before the game started. Hes walking around like this is no big deal. He will have the same look on his face in the press. Id take Deng and Gordon for Kobe in a heartbeat. Problem is Bulls might not.

Glad another Laker fan see's the light. He seriously needs to learn some leadership shit off-season, or ship his ass out.

[Amaso]

IronMexican being a dumbass, as usual.

[BlackSwordsMan]

kobe for all of spurs bench?

[BlackSwordsMan]

ian mahimi too

[kamikazi_player]

Lol, emo laker fans.

[IronMexican]

:cry Leave the Mamba alone!

[NewJerSpur]

Kobe for Shaq....I called it first.

[hhml]

Eh...if they trade him, so be it. If not, I don't mind. Kobe at this point is just a jump shooter. He rarely attacks anymore and even when he does, he's not strong enough to absorb the contact or can jump as high as he used to. Lakers won't get equal value in return for him anyway.

[KSeal]

Well lets not be retarded, we trade Kobe and this Laker team won't even make the playoffs. I do agree that his act of trying to be a leader and what not is getting very old when his team comes out and gives these half assed bullshit performances. Rockets please win game seven so the Lakers can just go home, this team doesn't deserve to move on, the Rockets do.

[IronMexican]

I want to hear the post-game already.

[Brazil]

Kobe for Matt Bonner ? you have a deal !

[Amaso]

Even Martin Luther King couldn't motivate the likes of Sasha Vujacic, Lamar Odom, Pau Gasol, Luke Walton, and Derek Fisher.

[kamikazi_player]

yeah lets trade the Lakers franchise player and second place for MVP this season for anybody :lol

[benefactor]

"He can't guard me"

























lol

[Amaso]

yeah lets trade the Lakers franchise player and second place for MVP this season for anybody :lol

Seriously. There are some really dumb people here.

[IronMexican]

And I really hope this thread gets bumped in about a month and I have to eat crow. But, I just don't see it.

[balli]

I too find Kobe's post-loss press conferences to be incredibly disingenuous and annoying. 80% of the time anyways. Just drop the fucking pretense Kobe. I wanna see Phil tonight.

[JustBlaze]

Seriously. There are some really dumb people here.

Can you blame the guy? I mean, in addition to being a Lakers fan, he's also a Raiders fan.

[hhml]

Yes, Kobe should be exploding in the post interview. Just drop this nonchalant attitude of "I'm not bothered one bit by this loss". It's really annoying seeing him do that every post game.

[Budkin]

Arrogant prick...

[DPG21920]

Would you trade Kobe for Artest? Artest is all kinds of bad assness. Just showed the replay of Kobe calling him a flopper and he calmly sticks his bloody tongue out in Kobe's face and looks at him like a small child.

[IronMexican]

Would you trade Kobe for Artest? Artest is all kinds of bad assness. Just showed the replay of Kobe calling him a flopper and he calmly sticks his bloody tongue out in Kobe's face and looks at him like a small child.

Artest is a bad ass muthafucka.

[Amaso]

Can you blame the guy? I mean, in addition to being a Lakers fan, he's also a Raiders fan.

I never thought of that :lol:lol

[Hemotivo]

http://frankthetank.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/kobe-bryant-bulls.jpg

I can't wait to hear him sound so cool, calm and collective in the post-game.
priceless

[IronMexican]

Can you blame the guy? I mean, in addition to being a Lakers fan, he's also a Raiders fan.

Fuck the Broncos. you really think they are doing shit without Cutler? That D is still shit and they traded away one of their first rounders for a second rounder in this week ass draft.

[Hemotivo]

Hey Kobe is probably going to OPT OUT of his contract and Run and Hide himself in Europe Like that other L.A. Rapist...

the infamous Director Roman Polanski...

:wow

[Roxsfan]

Kobe needs to learn some humility and stop being such an arrogant, selfish, fake-tough, facial-expression-type shit motherfucker.

[baseline bum]

Kobe's not very far from earning the overrated label. 04 Finals. 08 Finals. Now he's in danger of losing a series to a team of NBDL talent? WTF? I thought this guy's supposed to be the best player in the league.

[NewJerSpur]

Fuck the Broncos. you really think they are doing shit without Cutler? That D is still shit and they traded away one of their first rounders for a second rounder in this week ass draft.

Nope, and that's why the Seahawks stole a 1st round pick from them this year in the draft. Given Denver's schedule it might even be in the top 5. :toast

[The Third Man]

If Kobe doesn't trust his teammates, can you blame him? I mean, that's one soft front line he's playing with. The bench has gone to hell and there is no functioning point guard. If you are a Lakers fan and Kobe passes off to another player in a tight game in the finals, who on this team do you feel confident about hitting the shot?
For the record, I would trade any three Rockets for Kobe Bryant.

[IronMexican]

Kobe is having a much better post-game than I expected. Glad about this. Get that lackadaisical shit outta here.

[Roxsfan]

Would u? The Rockets are the closest team to the old Spurs I've seen in a long time. Kobe is T.O. in the NBA w/o the pills but with the raping.

LOL


Kobe said "we have to do whatever we can to get the hell out of this damned series" ........................like he was nervous..........


Lakers saying they are not nervous...........I hope they keep thinking that.............................


it was so transparent--fake toughness, and fake confidence and full of lies........saying they knew before game 1 that houston was tough.......BS, they were expecting a sweep...........they are scared........

[JustBlaze]

Fuck the Broncos. you really think they are doing shit without Cutler? That D is still shit and they traded away one of their first rounders for a second rounder in this week ass draft.

I agree. Fuck the Broncos, fat ass Cutler and the NFL for that matter.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I haven't lost hope for this team yet,
but I definitely know who's gonna eat crow once Lakers get the O'Brien.

Thanks for typing it in bold we wouldn't want you to type like everyone else does.

[milkshakeballa]

Iron - See my other post.

We need to hope we lose game 7 and Kobe wants out.

LeBron wants to be a global icon and the best ever???

Now is his chance....come to LA BRON BRON!!!!!

[balli]

I agree. Fuck the Broncos, fat ass Cutler and the NFL for that matter.
:lol I like the NFL, a lot, but I like the NBA a whole lot more and relish the NFL offseason. The ESPN jizz fest for the NFL gets so damn old it makes me wanna puke.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I haven't lost hope for this team yet,
but I definitely know who's gonna eat crow once Lakers get the O'Brien.

If Kobe and co. gets eliminated on Sunday, He will snap, once again in June, when the Finals roll around with Lebron hype buzzing through his ear, and Kobe not being there to meet him.

I remember when he randomly freaked out and interrupted the Cavs- Spurs finals in 2007, by stealing ESPN headlines right before game 1. :lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I need attention I must type in bold!!!!

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Look at my bold!!!, it's so much darker than everyone else's font because I'm that important.

[IronMexican]

Iron - See my other post.

We need to hope we lose game 7 and Kobe wants out.

LeBron wants to be a global icon and the best ever???

Now is his chance....come to LA BRON BRON!!!!!

I'd fucking nut myself if Bron was here.

[JustBlaze]

look at my bold!!!, it's so much darker than everyone else's font because i'm that important.

oh yeah? Well not only are my fonts in bold but they are also much bigger, therefore i am more importanter than joo>

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

oh yeah? Well not only are my fonts in bold but they are also much bigger, therefore i am more importanter than joo>

sorry I'm not that important but Kobe is gonna be mad someone's font draws more attention than his.

[JustBlaze]

sorry I'm not that important but Kobe is gonna be mad someone's font draws more attention than his.

Don't worry, I'll have some white girls over at my house in case kobe shows up. Then all will be forgiven.

[robbie380]

Kobe's not very far from earning the overrated label. 04 Finals. 08 Finals. Now he's in danger of losing a series to a team of NBDL talent? WTF? I thought this guy's supposed to be the best player in the league.

d league talent? :nope

[JoeTait75]

Wash the sand out of your vaginas, kids. Lake Show will win on Sunday and you'll be back to your insufferably cocky selves. :lol

[ezau]

I haven't lost hope for this team yet,
but I definitely know who's gonna eat crow once Lakers get the O'Brien.

Still thinking that you'll win the championship? :nope Delusional Faker

[peskypesky]

Well lets not be retarded, we trade Kobe and this Laker team won't even make the playoffs.

of course they'd make the playoffs of they got a great player for him, or two really good players.

[024]

why the fuck was bryant jacking up shot after shot when his low post player is averaging 56% FG during the playoffs? especially when the rockets' starting PF and Center are 6'9 and 6'6 with landry, 6'7, coming off the bench.

[Rapper]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/multimedia/photo_gallery/0905/lakers.rockers.game6/images/01_beat_la.jpg

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

All my posts have been bold..
get madd

why? What makes you think your posts need to be in bold?

[Ghazi]

Howard/JET/Shawne Williams for Kobe

[Ghazi]

Shaq/Kobe v 2.0 in Big D

How beautiful :)

[ambchang]

Kobe = Jordan.

[pauls931]

I'd love it if LA lost this series. Millions in talent, a rigged trade, and unlike boston, still could not pull it off.

However, I expect them to blow out the rockets. But I consider this a win for Houston, no one expected them in this condition to push LA to seven games. No Yao, No Mutumbo? You kidding me!? (Tmac doesn't count)

[Cry Havoc]

All my posts have been bold..
get madd

Welcome to my ignore list, in that case.

[Red Hawk #21]

Kobe for Manu?

:lmao

[Brazil]

Kobe = Jordan.

:nope Kobe>Jordan

[Muser]

Knowing the Lakers they're gonna trade Kobe for Gay/Mayo/Gasol + Memphis's draft pick this year.

[TheNextGen]

http://frankthetank.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/kobe-bryant-bulls.jpg

I can't wait to hear him sound so cool, calm and collective in the post-game.

and this is exactly why Lakers Fans are fucking fake. No matter how much other teams hate Kobe....to trade or "want" to trade him is dumb. Shows how spoiled and unappreciative Laker fans are. Even someone in this thread says he'll trade 3 of his Houston Rockets players for Kobe.

:rolleyes

[baseline bum]

and this is exactly why Lakers Fans are fucking fake. No matter how much other teams hate Kobe....to trade or "want" to trade him is dumb. Shows how spoiled and unappreciative Laker fans are. Even someone in this thread says he'll trade 3 of his Houston Rockets players for Kobe.

:rolleyes

Why should they appreciate him when all he did was trash the organization and his teammates two summers ago? Kobe's gotta start taking the blame for his playoff flameouts.

[sonic21]

If he plays hero next game and takes all the shots and shoots like 40 times. It will be a sad day for LA land

[poop]

haha the darkest days of the year for lakers fans, calling for Kobe to be traded. never thought id see the day, at least not so soon.

what are you guys going to say after Kobe drops 40+ sunday as the lakers blow out win?

[IronMexican]

haha the darkest days of the year for lakers fans, calling for Kobe to be traded. never thought id see the day, at least not so soon.

what are you guys going to say after Kobe drops 40+ sunday as the lakers blow out win?

I'll be happy and give Kobe some props.

[TheNextGen]

Why should they appreciate him when all he did was trash the organization and his teammates two summers ago? Kobe's gotta start taking the blame for his playoff flameouts.

and how did the team do after all that crap?

[baseline bum]

and how did the team do after all that crap?

They had the biggest playoff choke one game and lost by 39 to end the season.

[TheNextGen]

They had the biggest playoff choke one game and lost by 39 to end the season.

no point in even debating with you.

[baseline bum]

FTL. Kobe is one loss from being the new Dirk.

[Banzai]

The real question is what will happen to Derek Fisher? Does he retire after this season or does he come off the bench next season?

[Bukefal]

he should be banned to Siberia...

[21_Blessings]

Anti-jinx!

[jmill]

lol @ this thread

[poop]

still want to trade Kobe?

[Ghazi]

Did you see him before the game started. Hes walking around like this is no big deal. He will have the same look on his face in the press. Id take Deng and Gordon for Kobe in a heartbeat. Problem is Bulls might not.

[21_Blessings]

still want to trade Kobe?

Iron Mex would trade Kobe straight up for Shaq

[TheGreatest23]

IronMexican,

Over-react much?

[lefty]

Did Kobe himself start this thread?

[IronMexican]

Forgot about this thread. Trade him.

[DAF86]

Did you see him before the game started. Hes walking around like this is no big deal. He will have the same look on his face in the press. Id take Deng and Gordon for Kobe in a heartbeat. Problem is Bulls might not.

:lmao

[HarlemHeat37]

So Luva's dream lineup, so far:

PG
SG Gordon
SF Deng
PF Bosh
C

Fill in the blanks..

[LkrFan]

What a shitty thread. Talk about an overreaction. :lol So the Lakers didn't sweep a team that had heart. Since that didn't happen, let's trade our franchise player. That will make everything right. He's not just our franchise player, but a 1st ballot hall of famer who is still the best in the league...even now in his 15th year. And trade him for LeHype of all people? I would stop being a Laker fan until he retired. Seriously. I'd never want that douche on my favorite team.

Threads like this is why people hate Laker fans. I wonder if threads like this existed from Sp*r fans when the Lakers swept them in the playoffs a few years back during their 3peat. Doubtful that their fans wanted to trade TD. :rolleyes Why? Because that's just silly. What a shitty thread. Probably started by a fair weather Laker "fan." :lol

[21_Blessings]

Trade IronMexican, imho.


Raiders > all. I'd trade these last 5 Laker titles to see Oakland win one.



At this point, is Kobe a top 10 player?

[TheMACHINE]

lol IronMexican.

[IronMexican]

Agreed

[IronMexican]

Judging by the date of this thread, I think it weas the Denver series. After game 4, it seems.

[JamStone]

Judging by the date of this thread, I think it weas the Denver series. After game 4, it seems.

Houston series, game 6 loss.

[IronMexican]

Ah. I didn't bother reading the first page. Just saw the second page and it was late May(usually Conference Finals time).

[Nathan89]

Glad another Laker fan see's the light. He seriously needs to learn some leadership shit off-season, or ship his ass out.

Leadership- The quality that separates Duncan from Kobe.

I don't think he learned leadership but it doesn't matter because Pau is the best big in the league.

[JamStone]

Leadership- The quality that separates Duncan from Kobe.

I don't think he learned leadership but it doesn't matter because Pau is the best big in the league.

Point of contention.

I never pegged Tim Duncan as some great leader. Great player and when he does lead, it's by example. But it's not like Duncan is viewed as a fiery or vocal leader. To me, for all of the Spurs championship runs, I saw people other than Duncan as the main leader, whether it's Coach Popovich, Avery Johnson, David Robinson. I even see Ginobili as more of a leader than Tim Duncan.

Now, that's not to say Duncan isn't a leader at all. Like I said, Duncan leads by example. But I don't see Duncan as the type of leader who when the going gets tough brings his "troops" together and inspires and motivates them to greatness. I think Gregg Popovich has been that leader for the Spurs during their great run over the decade plus. Not Duncan.

[ohmwrecker]

There is a great video that I can't find of Duncan talking to his teammates during a timeout and everyone is paying rapt attention to what he is saying.
Make no mistake, Duncan is the leader of the team. The perception is that he isn't vocal is because he isn't as demonstrative on the court. I have seen him light into some guys and take the time to give certain players his individual attention. It's not that noticeable, but he does it all the time.

[HarlemHeat37]

Duncan is my favorite player, but his leadership is a little overrated by Spurs fans..

Of course Duncan is vocal at times, he's had the biggest role on the team for so long..he's the defensive anchor, so he has to be vocal on the court, especially on D..however, from pretty much every Spurs player we've ever heard from in regards to this subject, Duncan is mostly a "lead by example" type of guy..even though he does express his opinion, obviously, he doesn't do it to the extent that a lot of Spurs fans seem to say..

This is from Mahinmi last month:


Is he a leader in the locker room?
He is a leader in his own way. He never screams but he sometimes talks. Contrary to what we can think, he talks a lot on the court. It's true that he talks less in the locker room where we hear more Tony and Manu after the coach speak. However, during some timeouts, Tim can say "listen to me" when he wants to put things back in place. He doesn't hesitate to speak before Pop in these case but he doesn't do it a lot.

[ohmwrecker]

I don't see how that contradicts what I said, or makes my statement an "overrated" assessment of Duncan's leadership role. If anything, it's supports what I said.

[Medvedenko]

What a pitiful thread.

[JamStone]

Sometimes it's a distinction that is played out though. There are different styles of leadership and different people, teams require different styles. I know people hate the comparison, but the type of leader Kobe is basically mirrors the same type of leader Jordan was. But people don't question Jordan as a leader because of the success he and the Bulls had.

Kobe is criticized an awful lot for not being a good leader because of his selfishness with the basketball or because of a couple off-the-court examples of him trashing teammates. But you also see Kobe as a mentor on the court to his teammates. He's an SOB sometimes, but he's often coaching his teammates in between quarters and in timeouts and such. He's also a tireless worker on the court in practice and in the gym. If you want a lead-by-example leader, Kobe's teammates watch a guy who maintains his conditioning all year round, who doesn't wait a month after the season ends to take care of his surgery that will put his team in a bind when the season starts, that is the first guy in the gym every morning. You can fault him for being an asshole but I don't question Kobe's leadership anymore than I would question any other great player in the league. Just because he snitched on Shaq and punched Brian Cook in the back of the head and trashed Bynum on youtube, those things don't define him as a leader. It makes him a punk ass bitch and a bad friend, but not a bad leader, not when it comes to his play on the court.

I agree Duncan is a "lead by example" type of leader. But he isn't an inspirational or motivational leader like say Drew Breez was last year for the Saints or even (as much as he's hated) as Kevin Garnett is as a leader. KG is a more inspirational leader than Duncan. And I know there are plenty of people who just hate KG so much they wouldn't want to hear that kind of comparison. I've grown to hate KG too, but he is. KG inspires his teammates.

I don't think "leadership" is a distinction between Duncan and Kobe.

[Banzai]

If Kobe ever left....look at the Cavs.

[ohmwrecker]

I don't think "leadership" is a distinction between Duncan and Kobe.

I agree with that. Respect is probably the most important asset for a leader to possess, and I don't think Kobe has always had that from his teammates. You can't really question his leadership over the last two years though.

[hater]

:lol @ quoting Ian "towel boy" Mahinmi

[Hooks]

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[Baron Davιs]

Did you see him before the game started. Hes walking around like this is no big deal. He will have the same look on his face in the press. Id take Deng and Gordon for Kobe in a heartbeat. Problem is Bulls might not.

so this is who Laker fans worship on ST?
:lol

[pass1st]

Did you see him before the game started. Hes walking around like this is no big deal. He will have the same look on his face in the press. Id take Deng and Gordon for Kobe in a heartbeat. Problem is Bulls might not.

Fair weather fan.

[Giuseppe]

Fair weather fan.

Pass, gettin' his asshole on.

[Koolaid_Man]

so this is who Laker fans worship on ST?
:lol

keep it in context ok Mr. Chubby...

[Baron Davιs]

"I'd take Deng and Gordon for Kobe in a heartbeat."

BWHAHAHA
there's no justifying that.

[pass1st]

Bandwagon fair weather fan.