duncan228
05-15-2009, 06:53 PM
I put this here because of the Bosh conversation. Please move if it belongs in NBA Central.
Blog Suggests Warriors Will Pursue Bosh (http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/59178/20090514/blog_suggests_warriors_will_pursue_bosh/)
In a vague and unsubstantiated blog post, Tim Kawakami of the San Jose Mercury News suggests that the Warriors will pursue Chris Bosh via a possible trade. Golden State also showed interest in the Raptors' All-Star at the trade deadline.
Kawakami suggests some potential deals, but later appeared to realize that they would be impossible according to the rules of the CBA.
Kawakami famously wrote on repeated occasions that Monta Ellis would never play for the Warriors again and would demand to be traded, which was proven inaccurate.
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The Mercury News Piece:
Riley’s mandate: Go get Chris Bosh, if he can do it (http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2009/05/14/rileys-mandate-go-get-chris-bosh-if-he-can-do-it/)
by Tim Kawakami
* On that Rowell comment about his consideration of other GM candidates. Note that he didn’t say that he interviewed other GM options. Because I’m told that he didn’t. In fact, league sources say that Rowell didn’t talk to anybody–or even survey the field, ask for permission, anything–before locking into Larry Riley.
If Rowell had a list, it was a private list, and he never did anything with it except file it back in his desk. Next time he looks at it will be for the next GM ”search,” when he will pretend to consider outsiders and then replace Riley with another inside bureaucrat who pleases Rowell.
Also: League executives expect Riley to surround himself with friendly faces to fill out the front-office staff. Larry Harris will almost certainly have a role, and one Warriors end-of-bench assistant who has become Riley’s favorite. Won’t name him until it’s made official, but he’s the guy who has been traveling with Riley on recent scouting expeditions, NBA sources say.
Travis Stanley, long-time exec VP/marketing and very close to Rowell and Cohan, will not be joining the basketball operations. I’ve suggested that in the past, and I would be shocked if Stanley isn’t deeply involved in some of the broader Rowell decision-making, but I’m told that Stanley will NOT be in the basketball ops. I stand corrected.
—-From what people around the league are saying, Larry Riley has two chances to turn his Warriors GM reign from a puppet-caretaker role into something resembling a true, successful power position…
The first involves total luck: Move up from the current No. 7 slot and land one of the top two picks in the draft lottery coming up next Tuesday.
(Warriors have a 4.3% shot at No. 1 and a 4.93% shot at No. 2. They’ve got a 5.76% shot at No. 3, but that’s not considered too valuable.)
Of course, that almost never happens to the Warriors. It’s still possible and if Riley gets the rights to Blake
Griffin, I’m sure we’ll be told how smart he is.
But, if the Warriors don’t experience a total lottery luck-out, then Riley’s mandate is to go get a proven, vital young veteran.
The main targeted veteran, I’m told, is Toronto’s Chris Bosh–no surprise, given how hard Riley tried to get him at last year’s trade deadline.
Though Bosh is a big member of the great free-agent class of 2010, and therefore potentially available in a deal this summer if the Raptors are scared of losing him next year, it’s hard to see Toronto giving him
away.
They’re going to want Anthony Randolph. The Warriors are going to have to think hard about anything involving Randolph, though I’m sure Don Nelson wouldn’t be broken-hearted about it. Heck, Randolph’s not going to be in his prime until Nelson is long retired, so why would Nellie want any part of him?
But could the Warriors trade Randolph, at 19 with a chance to be one of the top 10 players in the league in a few years… for a possible one-year rental of Bosh, who may or may not ever be a superstar?
(I guess Nelson thinks Bosh would be an idea big man in a scatter-ball mania.)
Another huge problem: To get Bosh, the Warriors almost have to include Andris Biedrins (no problem for Nellie, obviously) for value and contract purposes, but Biedrins remains a base-year player until June 30 next summerOOPS THAT CHANGES THINGS.
That’s complicated, but basically it means that a Biedrins-involved trade has to be a monster monetary deal (involving three or four big contracts going both ways) for Biedrins’ deal to fit into any trade. Update: But only until June 30. Again: OOPS.
Randolph and Biedrins for Bosh doesn’t even come close to a workable NBA trade. The money’s all wrong. The Warriors and Raptors would have to build another $10M or so both ways into this deal.
Also, by my reading of the CBA, I don’t believe Jamal Crawford can be traded until and unless he DOES NOT opt-out on June 30. It’s like the Baron Davis situation last year–Crawford, for trade purposes, is considered a potential free agent, and you can’t trade pending F/As until July 1.
If Crawford opts-in, which is likely, he can be traded after June 30, since he will then have two years left on his deal.
If he opts-out and becomes a free agent, then the Warriors can still sign-and-trade his rights after June 30. But, unless I’m wrong, Crawford CANNOT BE MOVED in the period from now until July 1, which means zero movement for him at draft time (June 25).
Obviously another candidate to be moved: Monta Ellis, but he’s also a base-year player until June 30 next summer.
Much easier to trade: Brandan Wright and Marco Belinelli, but they don’t have much value, thanks, in no small part, to Nelson’s handling of them.
Blog Suggests Warriors Will Pursue Bosh (http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/59178/20090514/blog_suggests_warriors_will_pursue_bosh/)
In a vague and unsubstantiated blog post, Tim Kawakami of the San Jose Mercury News suggests that the Warriors will pursue Chris Bosh via a possible trade. Golden State also showed interest in the Raptors' All-Star at the trade deadline.
Kawakami suggests some potential deals, but later appeared to realize that they would be impossible according to the rules of the CBA.
Kawakami famously wrote on repeated occasions that Monta Ellis would never play for the Warriors again and would demand to be traded, which was proven inaccurate.
*********************
The Mercury News Piece:
Riley’s mandate: Go get Chris Bosh, if he can do it (http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2009/05/14/rileys-mandate-go-get-chris-bosh-if-he-can-do-it/)
by Tim Kawakami
* On that Rowell comment about his consideration of other GM candidates. Note that he didn’t say that he interviewed other GM options. Because I’m told that he didn’t. In fact, league sources say that Rowell didn’t talk to anybody–or even survey the field, ask for permission, anything–before locking into Larry Riley.
If Rowell had a list, it was a private list, and he never did anything with it except file it back in his desk. Next time he looks at it will be for the next GM ”search,” when he will pretend to consider outsiders and then replace Riley with another inside bureaucrat who pleases Rowell.
Also: League executives expect Riley to surround himself with friendly faces to fill out the front-office staff. Larry Harris will almost certainly have a role, and one Warriors end-of-bench assistant who has become Riley’s favorite. Won’t name him until it’s made official, but he’s the guy who has been traveling with Riley on recent scouting expeditions, NBA sources say.
Travis Stanley, long-time exec VP/marketing and very close to Rowell and Cohan, will not be joining the basketball operations. I’ve suggested that in the past, and I would be shocked if Stanley isn’t deeply involved in some of the broader Rowell decision-making, but I’m told that Stanley will NOT be in the basketball ops. I stand corrected.
—-From what people around the league are saying, Larry Riley has two chances to turn his Warriors GM reign from a puppet-caretaker role into something resembling a true, successful power position…
The first involves total luck: Move up from the current No. 7 slot and land one of the top two picks in the draft lottery coming up next Tuesday.
(Warriors have a 4.3% shot at No. 1 and a 4.93% shot at No. 2. They’ve got a 5.76% shot at No. 3, but that’s not considered too valuable.)
Of course, that almost never happens to the Warriors. It’s still possible and if Riley gets the rights to Blake
Griffin, I’m sure we’ll be told how smart he is.
But, if the Warriors don’t experience a total lottery luck-out, then Riley’s mandate is to go get a proven, vital young veteran.
The main targeted veteran, I’m told, is Toronto’s Chris Bosh–no surprise, given how hard Riley tried to get him at last year’s trade deadline.
Though Bosh is a big member of the great free-agent class of 2010, and therefore potentially available in a deal this summer if the Raptors are scared of losing him next year, it’s hard to see Toronto giving him
away.
They’re going to want Anthony Randolph. The Warriors are going to have to think hard about anything involving Randolph, though I’m sure Don Nelson wouldn’t be broken-hearted about it. Heck, Randolph’s not going to be in his prime until Nelson is long retired, so why would Nellie want any part of him?
But could the Warriors trade Randolph, at 19 with a chance to be one of the top 10 players in the league in a few years… for a possible one-year rental of Bosh, who may or may not ever be a superstar?
(I guess Nelson thinks Bosh would be an idea big man in a scatter-ball mania.)
Another huge problem: To get Bosh, the Warriors almost have to include Andris Biedrins (no problem for Nellie, obviously) for value and contract purposes, but Biedrins remains a base-year player until June 30 next summerOOPS THAT CHANGES THINGS.
That’s complicated, but basically it means that a Biedrins-involved trade has to be a monster monetary deal (involving three or four big contracts going both ways) for Biedrins’ deal to fit into any trade. Update: But only until June 30. Again: OOPS.
Randolph and Biedrins for Bosh doesn’t even come close to a workable NBA trade. The money’s all wrong. The Warriors and Raptors would have to build another $10M or so both ways into this deal.
Also, by my reading of the CBA, I don’t believe Jamal Crawford can be traded until and unless he DOES NOT opt-out on June 30. It’s like the Baron Davis situation last year–Crawford, for trade purposes, is considered a potential free agent, and you can’t trade pending F/As until July 1.
If Crawford opts-in, which is likely, he can be traded after June 30, since he will then have two years left on his deal.
If he opts-out and becomes a free agent, then the Warriors can still sign-and-trade his rights after June 30. But, unless I’m wrong, Crawford CANNOT BE MOVED in the period from now until July 1, which means zero movement for him at draft time (June 25).
Obviously another candidate to be moved: Monta Ellis, but he’s also a base-year player until June 30 next summer.
Much easier to trade: Brandan Wright and Marco Belinelli, but they don’t have much value, thanks, in no small part, to Nelson’s handling of them.