Teams You Want to See Spiral Downward in 2009 Thread

[NewJerSpur]

This thread is dedicated to the teams you want to see go down in flames for WHATEVER reason. For example, as a Seahawks fan I'd like to see:

1) The Cardinals go down. I have a HUGE amount of respect for them (although I can't stand their coach) and what they have built to get to this point now. However, they're in the same division as my team and we want the crown back.

2) The Denver Broncos must go down. My team's GM made a draft day deal with them this year in which we gave up a 2nd rounder (maybe 2) for one of their #1 picks in 2010. If they have a really bad record we won't only have 2 picks in the 1st round next year, but may also have a top 5 pick without even sucking.

You try....

[manufan10]

I want everyone but my favorite team to go down in flames.
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[NewJerSpur]

Come'on, you've got to have an axe to grind or a vested interest in the dowfall of another franchise....btw, who is your team?

[Spursfan092120]

I want everyone but my favorite team to go down in flames.
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Agreed...and everybody can tell what my team is...lol

[BUMP]

This thread is dedicated to the teams you want to see go down in flames for WHATEVER reason. For example, as a Seahawks fan I'd like to see:

1) The Cardinals go down. I have a HUGE amount of respect for them (although I can't stand their coach) and what they have built to get to this point now. However, they're in the same division as my team and we want the crown back.

2) The Denver Broncos must go down. My team's GM made a draft day deal with them this year in which we gave up a 2nd rounder (maybe 2) for one of their #1 picks in 2010. If they have a really bad record we won't only have 2 picks in the 1st round next year, but may also have a top 5 pick without even sucking.

You try....

I think #1 will happen and I pick Seattle to win the division again this year

I hope every possibility of misfortune happens to the Eagles,

I hope McChunky's arteries clog, Maclin their first round pick tears his ACL in both legs and whatever "CLs" are left, I hope Westbrook breaks his back, Desean Jackson gets shot, and Andy Reid's son dies of an alcohol overdose.

Hell, I hope something happens to Dawkins too even though he's not even there anymore.


Seriously, I can't stand that team. Whether it's the players or the fans that love to cheer when HOF players suffer career ending injuries

[benefactor]

Dallas has been in collapse mode over the last few years, so I'm good.

[Spursfan092120]

I think #1 will happen and I pick Seattle to win the division again this year

I hope every possibility of misfortune happens to the Eagles,

I hope McChunky's arteries clog, Maclin their first round pick tears his ACL in both legs and whatever "CLs" are left, I hope Westbrook breaks his back, Desean Jackson gets shot, and Andy Reid's son dies of an alcohol overdose.

Hell, I hope something happens to Dawkins too even though he's not even there anymore.


Seriously, I can't stand that team. Whether it's the players or the fans that love to cheer when HOF players suffer career ending injuries

AGREED!!!!!!
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The Patriots lost the Super Bowl. I think I'm out of wishes.

[benefactor]

Just for fun....

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[Spursfan092120]

Just for fun....

4rBA41f7A0c
ah..the haters...gotta love em.

[benefactor]

ah..the haters...gotta love em.
Reality...it's what's for dinner.

[Spursfan092120]

Reality...it's what's for dinner.
lol...yes sir..agreed...but are you a fan of the Eagles? Or do you just hate the Cowboys? And if you hate the Cowboys, why do you hate them?

[benefactor]

lol...yes sir..agreed...but are you a fan of the Eagles? Or do you just hate the Cowboys? And if you hate the Cowboys, why do you hate them?
I actually grew up in a household full of Cowboys fans and was one when I was younger. All that changed when Jerry pushed Jimmy Johnson out...and as we all know his evil tenure as their owner has only become worse since then. As I got older I realized how much most Cowboys fans are like Lakers fans. They feel like they are disciples of God's franchise and everyone should acknowledge how superior their team is to other teams...regardless of the reality of the situation. Compounding things is the fact that I live in a city that seems to think it is little Dallas and if you root for any other team it is sacrilege. This only pushed me further away and now I like them about as much as a bad fungal infection.

As far as my team goes...I have a lot of family in Houston and I rooted for Dallas and Houston both when I was in high school. I have always felt more connected to Houston as a team and basically rooted for Dallas because my dad was a big Cowboys fan and they were easy to root for because they were winning. The pain of the Bills playoff loss was hard to swallow and it was even harder to see the team leave the city. When they brought the new franchise in I threw my loyalty in wholeheartedly. The early years have been hard...Capers, Casserly, Carr, injuries, etc...but things are looking up and with the decline of other teams in our division and a healthy team all year I think we might have a shot at the playoffs.

[Spursfan092120]

I actually grew up in a household full of Cowboys fans and was one when I was younger. All that changed when Jerry pushed Jimmy Johnson out...and as we all know his evil tenure as their owner has only become worse since then. As I got older I realized how much most Cowboys fans are like Lakers fans. They feel like they are disciples of God's franchise and everyone should acknowledge how superior their team is to other teams...regardless of the reality of the situation. Compounding things is the fact that I live in a city that seems to think it is little Dallas and if you root for any other team it is sacrilege. This only pushed me further away and now I like them about as much as a bad fungal infection.

As far as my team goes...I have a lot of family in Houston and I rooted for Dallas and Houston both when I was in high school. I have always felt more connected to Houston as a team and basically rooted for Dallas because my dad was a big Cowboys fan and they were easy to root for because they were winning. The pain of the Bills playoff loss was hard to swallow and it was even harder to see the team leave the city. When they brought the new franchise in I threw my loyalty in wholeheartedly. The early years have been hard...Capers, Casserly, Carr, injuries, etc...but things are looking up and with the decline of other teams in our division and a healthy team all year I think we might have a shot at the playoffs.
Well first off, ALL Cowboys fans aren't like that. Matter of fact, I think a lot of Cowboys fans should be more humble because we haven't won a playoff game in over a decade. But nonetheless..if the reason you don't root for the Cowboys is because other people tried to get you to root for them, that just makes you a nonconformist..and that's fine. And I agree it was a mistake to get rid of Jimmy Johnson, but it wasn't all Jerry. Jimmy and him had arguments, and didn't get along. That's all it was. If Jerry didn't want to win, he wouldn't have spent so much money bringing in talent. I like Houston. They're probably my second favorite team, and a Houston/Dallas Super Bowl would be heaven for me. The Oilers losing broke my heart too...but I guess being more of a Cowboys fan, I got over that. I cheer for Dallas because of the history..because of the meaning behind the star. I love my Cowboys...I understand why you don't like them, and that's fine. Some people just hate them because they've been shoved down everyone's throats..but that's not their fault. I have a feeling after this year, when Wade is gone, we'll bring in a Bill Cowher, Shanahan, or maybe even Holmgren. Jerry wants to win...he proved that by dumping TO. He wants no problems in the locker room.

[dirk4mvp]

The fucking Titans. Which I expect to happen whether the old racist drunk or the bust/wrist cutter is playing qb, either way.

[benefactor]

Well first off, ALL Cowboys fans aren't like that. Matter of fact, I think a lot of Cowboys fans should be more humble because we haven't won a playoff game in over a decade. But nonetheless..if the reason you don't root for the Cowboys is because other people tried to get you to root for them, that just makes you a nonconformist..and that's fine. And I agree it was a mistake to get rid of Jimmy Johnson, but it wasn't all Jerry. Jimmy and him had arguments, and didn't get along. That's all it was. If Jerry didn't want to win, he wouldn't have spent so much money bringing in talent. I like Houston. They're probably my second favorite team, and a Houston/Dallas Super Bowl would be heaven for me. The Oilers losing broke my heart too...but I guess being more of a Cowboys fan, I got over that. I cheer for Dallas because of the history..because of the meaning behind the star. I love my Cowboys...I understand why you don't like them, and that's fine. Some people just hate them because they've been shoved down everyone's throats..but that's not their fault. I have a feeling after this year, when Wade is gone, we'll bring in a Bill Cowher, Shanahan, or maybe even Holmgren. Jerry wants to win...he proved that by dumping TO. He wants no problems in the locker room.
I think the biggest problem is that Jerry needs more front office positions that do not include himself. He need to focus more on writing checks and let the football minds take care of football.

[benefactor]

The fucking Titans. Which I expect to happen whether the old racist drunk or the bust/wrist cutter is playing qb, either way.
This is the first time(and maybe the last) that you and I totally agree on something. Die Bud Adams....and yes, I mean that.

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I just think it's funny that a self-proclaimed "lifelong Cowboys fan" would be angry at how Jerry Jones forced Jimmy Johnson out, but not at how Jerry Jones forced Tom Landry out.

[Spursfan092120]

I just think it's funny that a self-proclaimed "lifelong Cowboys fan" would be angry at how Jerry Jones forced Jimmy Johnson out, but not at how Jerry Jones forced Tom Landry out.
:tu But I guess that also depends on how old he/she is.

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:tu But I guess that also depends on how old he/she is.

Yeah, I hadn't thought about that. Someone too young to know that Jimmy stepped over the corpse of a legend to come to Dallas would get a pass.

[benefactor]

I just think it's funny that a self-proclaimed "lifelong Cowboys fan" would be angry at how Jerry Jones forced Jimmy Johnson out, but not at how Jerry Jones forced Tom Landry out.
Not sure if this was directed at me or not...but in response I was only 10 years old during Landry's last season as coach. I was much more into pro football in the early 90's when I was in middle school and started playing myself.

[Spursfan092120]

Not sure if this was directed at me or not...but in response I was only 10 years old during Landry's last season as coach. I was much more into pro football in the early 90's when I was in middle school and started playing myself.


:tu But I guess that also depends on how old he/she is.


Yeah, I hadn't thought about that. Someone too young to know that Jimmy stepped over the corpse of a legend to come to Dallas would get a pass.
It's all good man.

[monosylab1k]

Yeah, I hadn't thought about that. Someone too young to know that Jimmy stepped over the corpse of a legend to come to Dallas would get a pass.

Corpse is about right. The game had passed Landry by years before he was fired. The manner in which Jerry fired him was wrong, but how exactly is that Jimmy's fault?

And for the record, Jimmy > Landry

[monosylab1k]

I just think it's funny that a self-proclaimed "lifelong Cowboys fan" would be angry at how Jerry Jones forced Jimmy Johnson out, but not at how Jerry Jones forced Tom Landry out.

a lifelong Cowboys fan would know that Tom Landry needed to retire. Be mad at how Jerry went about firing him, but it's not like he sacrificed multiple future Super Bowl appearances or possibly the greatest dynasty in football history, the way he did when Jimmy hurt his feelings.

Those Cowboys were good enough to win a Super Bowl with Barry Switzer coaching Jimmy's team. If Jimmy stuck around, 5-6 Super Bowls was not out of the realm of possibility. A four-peat was almost guaranteed, as Jimmy would never have let his team lose to San Francisco in 95.

[Whisky Dog]

a lifelong Cowboys fan would know that Tom Landry needed to retire. Be mad at how Jerry went about firing him, but it's not like he sacrificed multiple future Super Bowl appearances or possibly the greatest dynasty in football history, the way he did when Jimmy hurt his feelings.

Those Cowboys were good enough to win a Super Bowl with Barry Switzer coaching Jimmy's team. If Jimmy stuck around, 5-6 Super Bowls was not out of the realm of possibility. A four-peat was almost guaranteed, as Jimmy would never have let his team lose to San Francisco in 95.

You can't say that stuff about a 4 peat being guaranteed. If they had won that Super Bowl in 95 and 3 peated then who's to say they have the motivation left to win it in 96? Part of that 96 run was due to the embarrassment of blowing it to the 49ers in 95

[monosylab1k]

You can't say that stuff about a 4 peat being guaranteed. If they had won that Super Bowl in 95 and 3 peated then who's to say they have the motivation left to win it in 96? Part of that 96 run was due to the embarrassment of blowing it to the 49ers in 95

Almost guaranteed. Learn to read.

And they had Barry freakin Switzer coaching them and they still won the Super Bowl. The roster that Jimmy Johnson assembled was so dominant that one of the more incompetent pro football coaches of all time still led them to a title.

[johnsmith]

Chargers - Because I'm tired of them winning the west.

Bears - I hope Cutler breaks his fucking legs.

Cowboys - Because they are the Cowboys.

[Spursfan092120]

Cowboys - Because they are the Cowboys.
lol..hatin. :)

[LakerHater]

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[Spursfan092120]

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Good luck to you sir.

[LakerHater]

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Good luck to you sir.

Expected!
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[BSofA04]

I would also like to see the titans fall flat on their face. Screw bud adams and his crappy hair piece.

[Spursfan092120]

Expected!
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a lifelong Cowboys fan would know that Tom Landry needed to retire. Be mad at how Jerry went about firing him, but it's not like he sacrificed multiple future Super Bowl appearances or possibly the greatest dynasty in football history, the way he did when Jimmy hurt his feelings.

Those Cowboys were good enough to win a Super Bowl with Barry Switzer coaching Jimmy's team. If Jimmy stuck around, 5-6 Super Bowls was not out of the realm of possibility. A four-peat was almost guaranteed, as Jimmy would never have let his team lose to San Francisco in 95.

Whoa, there. Troy Aikman cures a lot of ills for a team that went from the best in the league before Danny White's injury to terrible once he was unable to come back. I'm not sure how many coaches would have been able to win with guys like Steve Pelluer and Gary Hogeboom under center. That they did as well as they did in the 80s with "No Danny No" at the helm is a testament to Landry's greatness.

Jimmy Johnson didn't even like Troy Aikman, nor did he like Emmitt. The Herschel Walker trade was possibly the greatest coup in the history of the game, and it only happened once. I'd put 20 winning seasons in a row up against that and be happy with the choice.

I'm not sure how Jimmy would have had any control over three flukey turnovers in five minutes, or over the officials not calling Deion for PI. If you think that's somehow Switzer's fault, then your man-love for Jimmy Johnson is so irrational that pointing out his record with the Dolphins wouldn't be enough to change your mind.

I'm not saying that what happened to Landry was all that horrible, but it's no less horrible than what happened to Jimmy. Jerry said that he could win a Super Bowl with Barry Switzer, and he was right. He was stupid to think that he could just pick a great NFL coach out of thin air, and shouldn't have let his ego get the better of him.

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Cowboys

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and Steelers

[samikeyp]

Philly

[manufan10]

btw, who is your team?

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[Spursfan092120]

Cowboys
Wow..not sure if you're from Dallas, but that's pretty ignorant if you're from Dallas and you want the Cowboys to suck. It helps your economy when they win. Now...if you don't care how they do because you're not a fan, that's fine...but to HOPE that they do horrible is not too intelligent. Now..if you're not from Dallas, strike my remarks.

[dirk4mvp]

lol defensive about everything

[dirk4mvp]

and Steelers


I forgot about these fags.

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Wow..not sure if you're from Dallas, but that's pretty ignorant if you're from Dallas and you want the Cowboys to suck. It helps your economy when they win. Now...if you don't care how they do because you're not a fan, that's fine...but to HOPE that they do horrible is not too intelligent. Now..if you're not from Dallas, strike my remarks.

I want them to fail just this year, to prove that their problems went a lot deeper than TO. TO was the scapegoat, and they apparently feel that simply getting rid of him is what will get them over the hump. How wrong they are, as they had issues in their secondary, issues with turning the ball over, and piss-poor coaching, to name a few.

[IronMexican]

I think the Broncos' have already sunk, so no need to have ill will towards them.


Probably the Chargers then.

[Whisky Dog]

Almost guaranteed. Learn to read.

And they had Barry freakin Switzer coaching them and they still won the Super Bowl. The roster that Jimmy Johnson assembled was so dominant that one of the more incompetent pro football coaches of all time still led them to a title.

Not even close to almost guaranteed. A 3 peat champion is fat and lazy from success.

Learn to think.

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besides Eagles

Steelers cause they are gay

Cardinals because it just doesnt feel right when they are relevant in the NFL

Patriots because they will choke eventually and it will save their fans from suicide if they stumble right out of the gate

Giants because they talk way to much

Raiders because they're the Raiders

[Whisky Dog]

I want them to fail just this year, to prove that their problems went a lot deeper than TO. TO was the scapegoat, and they apparently feel that simply getting rid of him is what will get them over the hump. How wrong they are, as they had issues in their secondary, issues with turning the ball over, and piss-poor coaching, to name a few.

Dumbass, nobody with half a brain said TO was the only problem, only a problem. The Cowboys also got rid of Johnson for a capable backup, got rid of safety Roy and brought in Sensabaugh, replaced Canty with Olshansky, and replaced the worst coach on the team with a real special teams coach to remedy the worst special teams in football.

Yeah, they really thought TO was the only problem. Dumbass

[samikeyp]

Dumbass, nobody with half a brain said TO was the only problem, only a problem. The Cowboys also got rid of Johnson for a capable backup, got rid of safety Roy and brought in Sensabaugh, replaced Canty with Olshansky, and replaced the worst coach on the team with a real special teams coach to remedy the worst special teams in football.

Yeah, they really thought TO was the only problem. Dumbass

A lot of fans did but no evidence from the team that they thought TO was the only problem. If they do think that, which none of us knows, then yes, they are wayyyy off.

[manufan10]

A lot of fans did but no evidence from the team that they thought TO was the only problem. If they do think that, which none of us knows, then yes, they are wayyyy off.

I've read on TrueBlue and the dallascowboys.com website, and a lot of fans really think that TO is the blame for all of the Cowboys problems. A lot of people have made TO out to look like the scapegoat. He was "causing" problems in the locker room so he was cut. I think the team suggested this by cutting him. I would have liked to see the TO/Roy Williams combination with a whole year under their belt. If it didn't work out, cut him then. That's my opinion. Now guys like Mickie Spagnola and the other writers are saying that the offense is going to be a whole lot better and more productive because TO isn't there any more. Romo won't have to worry about throwing him the ball, and can look to other receivers. I think the perception is out there that TO is to blame for a lot of their problems. It's mostly fan/media induced though.

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I've read on TrueBlue and the dallascowboys.com website, and a lot of fans really think that TO is the blame for all of the Cowboys problems. A lot of people have made TO out to look like the scapegoat. He was "causing" problems in the locker room so he was cut. I think the team suggested this by cutting him. I would have liked to see the TO/Roy Williams combination with a whole year under their belt. If it didn't work out, cut him then. That's my opinion. Now guys like Mickie Spagnola and the other writers are saying that the offense is going to be a whole lot better and more productive because TO isn't there any more. Romo won't have to worry about throwing him the ball, and can look to other receivers. I think the perception is out there that TO is to blame for a lot of their problems. It's mostly fan/media induced though.

I think you conveyed my point a little better. I'm sick of all the morons and haters blaming TO for all the problems. So thats a big reason why I want them to fail. Not to mention, the fact that they shouldn't have cut him in the first place. Quite a few teammates were not very happy about that move at all. It's even more ridiculous about how when Romo had a shitty game against the Giants, and everyone was bashing on him and hating on him, TO stuck up for the guy. Then as soon as adversity strikes in regards to TO, Romo threw him under the bus. That was a bitch move by both the team and Romo.

[samikeyp]

IMO it would have been a good move if they had someone to bring in close to what TO was. They didn't and for the moment they are hanging their hopes on Witten, who is arguably the best at his position and Williams, Crayton, Austin and Hurd, all of whom have shown flashes of brilliance but that is about it. Crayton has been the #2 before but to a strong #1 which he no longer has. The other three have benefitted as well from TO so this is their opportunity to shine. Hopefully they will, if not, its going to be ugly.

[manufan10]

They're going to have to go out and get a FA wide receiver that can help make a difference. What team is really going to be afraid of a threat of Crayton, Austin, and Hurd. Two of them are unproven and don't really strike fear in a defense. Roy Williams has at least shown in the past that he can put up number, and so has Witten. That's why the loss of TO has really hurt the Cowboys. They had some offensive threat at the receiver position. TO made Witten and Crayton better. TO could have made Roy Williams better. If they would have given the TO/Williams one year to prove or disprove that they could work together and then release TO, I wouldn't have had a problem with it.

Oh well, it's time look forward. I can't wait for the season to start!

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Chargers - Because I'm tired of them winning the west.

Bears - I hope Cutler breaks his fucking legs.

Cowboys - Because they are the Cowboys.

lol broncos

lol orton

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I think you conveyed my point a little better. I'm sick of all the morons and haters blaming TO for all the problems. So thats a big reason why I want them to fail. Not to mention, the fact that they shouldn't have cut him in the first place. Quite a few teammates were not very happy about that move at all. It's even more ridiculous about how when Romo had a shitty game against the Giants, and everyone was bashing on him and hating on him, TO stuck up for the guy. Then as soon as adversity strikes in regards to TO, Romo threw him under the bus. That was a bitch move by both the team and Romo.

TO stuck up for Romo when he was fighting for a contract. TO was a decent teammate, albeit one who led the NFL in drops, when he was fighting for a contract. They're not so desperate at the receiver position that they should have to try to tolerate the distraction that he causes. I'm not sure how people simply pointing out the above qulify as "haters blaming him for all the problems."

[johnsmith]

lol broncos

lol orton

Agreed

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TO stuck up for Romo when he was fighting for a contract. TO was a decent teammate, albeit one who led the NFL in drops, when he was fighting for a contract. They're not so desperate at the receiver position that they should have to try to tolerate the distraction that he causes. I'm not sure how people simply pointing out the above qulify as "haters blaming him for all the problems."

when the passing offense struggles mightily this season, ill be looking forward to seeing you blame it on TO, despite him not even being on the same team or in the same conference. :toast

[monosylab1k]

A 3 peat champion is fat and lazy from success.

How the fuck would you know that? Name me every 3 peat SB champion. Learn to think.

Even 3 time champions don't always get fat and lazy. The Patriots are competitive and hungry to win every year. Learn to think.

If anybody could have done it, it was Jimmy with that roster. Learn to think.

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when the passing offense struggles mightily this season, ill be looking forward to seeing you blame it on TO, despite him not even being on the same team or in the same conference. :toast

The Cowboys have the best tight end in football, their second TE is very good, and they've got a good young crop of receivers, along with as talented a group of running backs as anybody in the league. I'm sure the Cowboys have someone on the roster that's capable of catching a long pass that hits them in the hands. In fact, there's probably a number of people on the roster that can be completely shut down by press coverage or are unaware of where the first down marker is, but fortunately most of them aren't playing wide receiver or whine when they don't get the ball thrown their way. Even if they don't have such a person, I doubt the offense is going to come to a grinding halt as a result.

[Spursfan092120]

I want them to fail just this year, to prove that their problems went a lot deeper than TO. TO was the scapegoat, and they apparently feel that simply getting rid of him is what will get them over the hump. How wrong they are, as they had issues in their secondary, issues with turning the ball over, and piss-poor coaching, to name a few.
Yes..they have more problems than T.O...and they know that. That's why they traded for 12 picks in the draft. Don't get pissed off at the team because of all the fans that open their mouths and say "Just because TO is gone we're gonna win the SB now." The Cowboys know better than that. But, he was a huge locker room problem, and he made Tony Romo constantly feel like he had to look for him first, because you have to keep TO happy or there's going to be problems. I feel sorry for Buffalo. But...the Cowboys KNOW that their problems go deeper than TO...but you have to start somewhere.

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Yes..they have more problems than T.O...and they know that. That's why they traded for 12 picks in the draft. Don't get pissed off at the team because of all the fans that open their mouths and say "Just because TO is gone we're gonna win the SB now." The Cowboys know better than that. But, he was a huge locker room problem, and he made Tony Romo constantly feel like he had to look for him first, because you have to keep TO happy or there's going to be problems. I feel sorry for Buffalo. But...the Cowboys KNOW that their problems go deeper than TO...but you have to start somewhere.

If there's a fan that said that and actually meant it, I'm right there with Stretch calling them out. TO ain't the reason they coughed up a lung in the playoffs. If for no other reason, his absence means there are no excuses for the other people responsible for the team.

[samikeyp]

if there's a fan that said that and actually meant it, i'm right there with stretch calling them out. To ain't the reason they coughed up a lung in the playoffs. If for no other reason, his absence means there are no excuses for the other people responsible for the team.

+1

[Spursfan092120]

If there's a fan that said that and actually meant it, I'm right there with Stretch calling them out. TO ain't the reason they coughed up a lung in the playoffs. If for no other reason, his absence means there are no excuses for the other people responsible for the team.
Exactly...any fan who said that, if they meant it, are extremely ignorant..

[manufan10]

I don't know if they meant it, but there's a lot of fans on dallascowboys.com and TrueBlue that are commenting on articles that think just because TO is gone that the chances of going to the SB have gone up. It doesn't help when the writers try to give the impression that this offense is better without one of the greatest wide receivers of all time.

I think the Cowboys have done a lot to try and improve in some areas that they really needed improving on like special teams. Most of the guys they drafted can be impact guys on special teams. They fired the special teams coach, and brought in someone who is a highly qualified special teams coach. (I've noticed that the special teams hasn't been very special since they let go of Joe Avezzano.) They replaced Zach Thomas with Keith Brooking. They really need the LB spot opposite of DeMarcus Ware to step up. Anthony Spencer or Greg Ellis needs to take some pressure off of D-Ware.

[NewJerSpur]

This thread turned into a rather nice venting session....especially regarding the Cowboys, lol. Lets try to keep the wishes of personal harm to others at a minimum; failure can come without injury/perosonal crises.

Oh and I almost forgot, down with the Stealers (spelled that way to imply thievery of Super Bowl XL*). Maverick fans think they got ripped off in '06....Seahawk fans got worked over WAAAAY worse by the officiating in that year's final game.

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I don't know if they meant it, but there's a lot of fans on dallascowboys.com and TrueBlue that are commenting on articles that think just because TO is gone that the chances of going to the SB have gone up. It doesn't help when the writers try to give the impression that this offense is better without one of the greatest wide receivers of all time.

I said I didn't agree that just because TO is gone that the Cowboys are now going to win the super bowl, but I'll say without any reservation that their chances of winning the super bowl just went way the fuck up now that TO isn't on the team. That's why I wanted them to cut his ass in the first place. He put up really good numbers, but it's not like he did anything all that amazing. He got open on soft single coverage a number of times and caught the ball when it hit him in the hands. He caught maybe three or four tough passes the entire season, which didn't make up for his drops or mental mistakes. Even if that was a wash, his presence was fracturing the team from top to bottom. I don't give a shit if it was his fault or not, I'd rather just see his ass gone and move on. I absolutely believe that their offense is going to be better next year now that Romo and Garrett don't have to worry about a meltdown after a win because TO didn't have enough passes thrown his way.

But like I said earlier, if Romo's decision making remains poor this year, he's got no excuses. And if the offense tries to be too cute and stops producing anything other than turnovers like it did at the end of the season, Garrett has no excuses either.

[monoslyab1k]

3 rings faggots

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3 rings faggots

Go back to the NBA forum to shit on the threads, asshole.

[manufan10]

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the Bills, since TO is on the team now.

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[Spursfan092120]

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Someone is a Lions fan.. :)

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I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the Bills, since TO is on the team now.

Personally, I don't wish ill on him or the Bills. I'm just glad he's their potential problem and not Dallas' anymore.

[NewJerSpur]

The Bills won't sniff the playoffs....bank on it.

[manufan10]

The Bills won't sniff the playoffs....bank on it.

Agreed. I don't see the Bills coming out of their division. The Pats will be strong as always, and I think they're the only team that is going to make the playoffs out of that division.

[NewJerSpur]

Agreed. I don't see the Bills coming out of their division. The Pats will be strong as always, and I think they're the only team that is going to make the playoffs out of that division.

The Jets SHOULD have a Raven-like defense with Rex there (even though they have no receivers) and a good running attack which might be enough to get them by for a Wild Card birth. Dolphins were good last season, but not great and the Bills have question marks along the O-Line as well as an inconsistent QB.