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Bruno
05-16-2009, 07:18 AM
http://www.indystar.com/article/20090516/LOCAL1802/905160439/Dream+date+will+escort+Broad+Ripple+senior+to+prom

By Mark Ambrogi
IndyStar.com
Posted: May 16, 2009


Broad Ripple High School senior Kenya Simmons didn't know what to expect when she was called to the principal's office.

Principal Linda Davis simply asked the 18-year-old if she planned to go to the prom. Simmons said no.

The teen said, "My dream was to go with George Hill," the 2004 Broad Ripple graduate who just completed his rookie season with the San Antonio Spurs.

In a fan letter, Simmons had asked Hill if he would take her to the prom.

Then the principal let her in on a big surprise.

The letter touched the pro basketball player, who earlier had gone to the school office -- and bought tickets to tonight's big event.

"My fantasy had come true," Simmons said. "I started crying because I was happy."

The Indianapolis Public Schools student wrote to Hill in February but hadn't gotten a reply.

Since the Dallas Mavericks eliminated the Spurs in the first round of the NBA playoffs April 28, Hill knew he could be back home for the prom.

Hill accepted the offer because Simmons' letter showed she was a big fan.

"I was going to be in Indianapolis with no plans (tonight), so it was a great opportunity to go to my old school," said Hill, who attended the prom twice when he was a student.

Hill knew taking Simmons to the event tonight at the Scottish Rite Cathedral would make her the talk of the school.

"That's what I wanted," Hill said. "I saw it as a way to connect to the school. I love this city. It's a blessing that I have made it this far, and I want to give back."

Hill, who isn't married, didn't want to comment on his current dating status.

His plans for the evening with Simmons, who will attend Ivy Tech Community College to study nursing, are simple.

"I just want us to go and have fun," said Hil. His assistant will accompany the couple.

Simmons has followed Hill's career from Broad Ripple to Indiana University- Purdue University Indianapolis and the Spurs. She has seen him play with IUPUI and the Spurs but never met him.

Simmons rushed over the past two weeks to get ready for the prom. Her mother, Juanita Simmons, and a cousin scrambled to get a dress.

"We rushed to get everything together, but now we got it and she's going to look pretty," her proud mother said.

Juanita Simmons, a single parent of five, intends to have the camcorder running from the time Hill arrives at the house. She said it's a great way for her daughter to close out high school.

"She's going to the prom with an NBA player and finishing with a 3.0 GPA," she said.

The students will be thrilled to have one of the school's most famous athletes on the dance floor, the principal said.

"It will be a great prom, I'm sure," Davis said. "Everybody will be very excited."

tp2021
05-16-2009, 07:21 AM
Chances he whips out his huge dong on prom night?

Bruno
05-16-2009, 07:27 AM
3 minutes and 1 post to turn a nice story into something creepy. :lol
Is it over or under the ST average ?

benefactor
05-16-2009, 08:00 AM
Chances he whips out his huge dong on prom night?
I know its sad...but this is the first thing I thought of too. :lol

ploto
05-16-2009, 08:08 AM
It's a nice story, but I would never let my teenaged daughter go to her high school prom with a 23 year old man.

debo
05-16-2009, 08:13 AM
Chances he whips out his huge dong on prom night?

please, what are the chances he doesnt whip that thing out! :lol

but seriously he just keeps on proving he is a spur with stuff like this. we better keep him

TDMVPDPOY
05-16-2009, 09:08 AM
shit if HILL loves indiana, lets trade his ass for DANNY GRANGER!!!!! do it pop, get on the phone now, dial in the number and shout it out loud, put ur hands up like you just dont care.....

Indazone
05-16-2009, 09:08 AM
More internets pics!!

EricB
05-16-2009, 10:19 AM
It's a nice story, but I would never let my teenaged daughter go to her high school prom with a 23 year old man.


Yeah heaven forbid she go with a good guy like George :rolleyes

EricB
05-16-2009, 10:19 AM
shit if HILL loves indiana, lets trade his ass for DANNY GRANGER!!!!! do it pop, get on the phone now, dial in the number and shout it out loud, put ur hands up like you just dont care.....


God, throw your computer out the window then kill yourself.

bdictjames
05-16-2009, 10:43 AM
Hill is so nice.

benefactor
05-16-2009, 11:11 AM
In all seriousness...it's a nice gesture. If anything it is something that validates his reputation as a class guy.

BUMP
05-16-2009, 11:27 AM
Well she can thank the Mavericks first and foremost for eliminating the Spurs early so she could have the opportunity :)

angel_luv
05-16-2009, 12:19 PM
That is really sweet of George Hill.

In general I agree about him being too old to frequently go out with a high school student, but for this one time special and supervised occasion, I see no harm in it.

Spursfan092120
05-16-2009, 12:21 PM
Chances he whips out his huge dong on prom night?
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
I knew that shit was coming..lol.

duncan228
05-16-2009, 01:46 PM
Sweet story.

Ditty
05-16-2009, 01:48 PM
Well she can thank the Mavericks first and foremost for eliminating the Spurs early so she could have the opportunity :)

yah too bad the mavs go down as one of the ugliest teams in the league :lol

ploto
05-16-2009, 03:40 PM
Yeah heaven forbid she go with a good guy like George :rolleyes

You mean the guy with the naked picture on the internet? :lol

TimDunkem
05-16-2009, 03:52 PM
You mean the guy with the naked picture on the internet? :lol
You act as if that is out of the ordinary or something. A lot of people have pictures of themselves unintentionally put on the web. As if that makes the "date" to the prom anything more than a nice gesture and complete innocence.

E20
05-16-2009, 03:56 PM
How big is George Hill's schlong?

EricB
05-16-2009, 03:57 PM
You mean the guy with the naked picture on the internet? :lol


They've yet to prove that was him, other than some slut saying "dis be him"

EricB
05-16-2009, 03:58 PM
You act as if that is out of the ordinary or something. A lot of people have pictures of themselves unintentionally put on the web. As if that makes the "date" to the prom anything more than a nice gesture and complete innocence.


If the guy aint white, european, talks with an accent, and suck in the playoffs, ploto don't like em.

Kori Ellis
05-16-2009, 06:59 PM
If the guy aint white, european, talks with an accent, and suck in the playoffs, ploto don't like em.

I don't think that has anything to do with Ploto's comments. I like George Hill, but there's no way in hell I'd let my daughter go to her prom with a 23-year-old either.

VI_Massive
05-16-2009, 07:06 PM
I don't think that has anything to do with Ploto's comments. I like George Hill, but there's no way in hell I'd let my daughter go to her prom with a 23-year-old either.

I can understand not letting your high school daughter DATE a 23 year old, but a special prom thing like this? I don't see any downside. Its not like Hill is cruising for easy high school girls, lord knows NBA players, even semi-obscure rookies like Hill, can have all the easy groupie tail they want. He's just doing a nice favor for a girl. Plus, his assistant is going as a pseudo-chaperone. I don't see anything wrong with it.

I think its sweet and classy. It would be like Ashton Kutcher or Shia LeBoeuf taking a fan to her prom. Not a big deal at all.

Bruno
05-16-2009, 07:07 PM
Hill's assistant will go to the prom with them so I don't know if the mother has something to fear.

Kori Ellis
05-16-2009, 07:09 PM
I can understand not letting your high school daughter DATE a 23 year old, but a special prom thing like this? I don't see any downside. Its not like Hill is cruising for easy high school girls, lord knows NBA players, even semi-obscure rookies like Hill, can have all the easy groupie tail they want. He's just doing a nice favor for a girl. Plus, his assistant is going as a pseudo-chaperone. I don't see anything wrong with it.

I think its sweet and classy. It would be like Ashton Kutcher or Shia LeBoeuf taking a fan to her prom. Not a big deal at all.

I think its a sweet and classy gesture too. I also think it's a little creepy. Just my opinion.

My real point was that I don't think that Ploto is the only one who has that opinion -- so there's no reason for people to attack her in this thread.

VI_Massive
05-16-2009, 07:11 PM
My real point was that I don't think that Ploto is the only one who has that opinion -- so there's no reason for people to attack her in this thread.

Agreed.

lefty
05-16-2009, 07:18 PM
She'll be very disappointed.


Greg Popovich won't give George Hill more than 2 minutes of dancing time

VI_Massive
05-16-2009, 07:24 PM
She'll be very disappointed.


Greg Popovich won't give George Hill more than 2 minutes of dancing time

Until the elimination dance off. But by then, it'll be too late.

TDMVPDPOY
05-16-2009, 09:10 PM
Hill is going to shut her down on the dance floor with his hustling defense.....

Indazone
05-16-2009, 09:22 PM
Her weak ass defense will fold like a house of cards and then it'll be George Hill for the Slam Dunk and the win!

Seriously she can't be some dog. She's gotta be hot.

Baseline
05-16-2009, 09:56 PM
I wonder how many Prom invitations Kobe Bryant got this year.

Okay, we're all thinking the same thing...no way on Earth I'm letting my daughter go to the prom with that creep.

So why is he the darling of the NBA?

It should be guys like George Hill who are the darlings of the NBA, and we should not have alleged rapists and serial tyrants like Bryant shoved down our throats.

VI_Massive
05-16-2009, 10:13 PM
I wonder how many Prom invitations Kobe Bryant got this year.

Okay, we're all thinking the same thing...no way on Earth I'm letting my daughter go to the prom with that creep.

So why is he the darling of the NBA?

It should be guys like George Hill who are the darlings of the NBA, and we should not have alleged rapists and serial tyrants like Bryant shoved down our throats.

Great player + major market + championships

raspsa
05-17-2009, 03:29 AM
Funny how different cultures can be.. is a 5-year age difference is that big a thing?

spursbird
05-17-2009, 03:54 AM
Hill's assistant will go to the prom with them so I don't know if the mother has something to fear.
I'm afraid that is the only thing his mother would fear.

HarlemHeat37
05-17-2009, 03:58 AM
I wonder if Roger Mason or Jacque Vaughn will cut in..

spursbird
05-17-2009, 03:59 AM
I wonder how many Prom invitations Kobe Bryant got this year.

Okay, we're all thinking the same thing...no way on Earth I'm letting my daughter go to the prom with that creep.

So why is he the darling of the NBA?

It should be guys like George Hill who are the darlings of the NBA, and we should not have alleged rapists and serial tyrants like Bryant shoved down our throats.
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/03/fullj.5d97ea2fb901599e380e8e2453a7c16a/5d97ea2fb901599e380e8e2453a7c16a-getty-86316899rm010_los_angeles_l.jpg
Cauz even some men like Sasha love him.

ploto
05-17-2009, 10:40 AM
I wonder how the school would respond if this was just any 23 year old man who wanted to attend the prom. At my child's school, any prom date who is not a current student of that school must be approved by the Dean of Students in advance.

I said first off in my post that it was a nice gesture but I still find it a little misguided that parents do these types of things simply because someone is a celebrity.

phyzik
05-17-2009, 12:05 PM
Funny how different cultures can be.. is a 5-year age difference is that big a thing?

People are wierd sometimes in America. If Hill was 25 and she was 20, no one would be saying anything. For some reason, anything before 20 in America is taboo even though the law recognizes someone as an adult at the age of 18.

For the record, no I never dated anyone that young except when I myself was in Highschool.

She could definately do worse than going to a prom with an NBA player at the age of 18. I just find it funny how some people find it creepy and yet they probably know someone who is a teenager and already has kids and dont even bat an eye at that shit anymore. :lol

Bukefal
05-17-2009, 12:14 PM
that's cool!

Indazone
05-17-2009, 12:16 PM
Cool for George and cool for her. She'll get instant popularity and he'll get young poon.

Bukefal
05-17-2009, 12:16 PM
I don't think that has anything to do with Ploto's comments. I like George Hill, but there's no way in hell I'd let my daughter go to her prom with a 23-year-old either.

Really? you would not let your daughter go with a professional Spurs basketball player like Hill?? If it was a ordinary 23 year old, ok, i would not too, but hill??! :king

Avitus1
05-17-2009, 01:11 PM
That was pretty cool of Hill.

MarHill
05-17-2009, 05:17 PM
People are wierd sometimes in America. If Hill was 25 and she was 20, no one would be saying anything. For some reason, anything before 20 in America is taboo even though the law recognizes someone as an adult at the age of 18.

For the record, no I never dated anyone that young except when I myself was in Highschool.

She could definately do worse than going to a prom with an NBA player at the age of 18. I just find it funny how some people find it creepy and yet they probably know someone who is a teenager and already has kids and dont even bat an eye at that shit anymore. :lol

I have to disagree.

I do believe it was a nice gesture...by the way. I believe George is doing it in the right spirit and good supervision.

However, there is a major difference between a 17 or 18 year old whose still in high school and a 23 year old grown man. Maturity, ways of the world, and life experience are huge in that age range.

As someone's whose wife is expecting our first girl in August....I would not let my daughter at 17 or 18 (whose is still in high school) go to her prom with a 23 year old man. Period.

And to use the arguement that teenagers are having babies and no one doesn't care anymore...is not true. Also, most of the teenage girls having babies are with teenage boys....not grown men. That's not a parallel argument.

Americans are not weird...to feel that situation isn't right.

MarHill
05-17-2009, 05:18 PM
I wonder how the school would respond if this was just any 23 year old man who wanted to attend the prom. At my child's school, any prom date who is not a current student of that school must be approved by the Dean of Students in advance.

I said first off in my post that it was a nice gesture but I still find it a little misguided that parents do these types of things simply because someone is a celebrity.

I agree with you Ploto.

Celebrity or not...he is a grown man and she is still a girl in high school. And there is a big difference between the two.

Udokafan05
05-17-2009, 11:08 PM
Honestly, does anyone think this will turn into a Kobe story? Its a once in lifetime chance for girl, i dont think the mother has anything to fear.

lefty
05-18-2009, 01:06 AM
I heard Kobe called Hill to give him some tips.

spursbird
05-18-2009, 01:36 AM
Damn, I want to see how the girl looks like.

lefty
05-18-2009, 02:03 AM
Damn, I want to see how the girl looks like.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WriF8m2mVt0/SV5LYIQWq5I/AAAAAAAADg0/Gv9Vrnt8BR8/s400/paris_hilton2_300.jpg

spursbird
05-18-2009, 02:54 AM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WriF8m2mVt0/SV5LYIQWq5I/AAAAAAAADg0/Gv9Vrnt8BR8/s400/paris_hilton2_300.jpg
I can't see it...

baseline bum
05-18-2009, 04:39 AM
What's the difference? Your daughters will be fucking their 40 year-old professors freshman year anyways.

Indazone
05-18-2009, 08:32 AM
:lol @ Baseline

Sad but true

MoSpur
05-18-2009, 09:11 AM
I don't think George Hill's intentions are to get close to this girl physically in any way. He's just granting a fan's wish. I'm sure he ran by the Spurs before he granted her that wish and his assistant will be with them. Plus all the town will have their eys on those two.

urunobili
05-18-2009, 09:19 AM
what is lame is the mother of the girl rushing her to "get a dress" and all that "try to make him fall in love with you and we'll all be safe for the future" kinda tricks... :td

Indazone
05-18-2009, 10:20 AM
George "The $5 Footlong" Hill

sonic21
05-18-2009, 10:27 AM
that's sweet, but a little weird and creepy too

poop
05-18-2009, 10:31 AM
its pathetic to see all these conservative nerds on here whine about how its apparently 'so wrong' for a damn 18yr old to go to a dance with a 23 yr old...

there is NOTHING WRONG with that tiny age gap, give me a break.

i hope Hill fucks the shit out of her just to spite you uptight, prudish assholes.

GOSPURS733
05-18-2009, 11:39 AM
its pathetic to see all these conservative nerds on here whine about how its apparently 'so wrong' for a damn 18yr old to go to a dance with a 23 yr old...

there is NOTHING WRONG with that tiny age gap, give me a break.

i hope Hill fucks the shit out of her just to spite you uptight, prudish assholes.
:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:l ol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

benefactor
05-18-2009, 12:36 PM
If it was some 18 year old from a random high school, I think it would be a little strange. But it is his alma mater and she is a big fan of his. I have a daughter and I am pretty protective, but I would be fine with the situation if the circumstances were the same....if George was a star at her high school and she was a big fan of his.

Couple all of this with the fact that the local media will probably be covering this pretty closely and I seriously doubt anything inappropriate will happen.

z0sa
05-18-2009, 12:37 PM
the people saying this is weird or creepy, i'd hate to be your kid.

polandprzem
05-18-2009, 01:34 PM
How big is George Hill's schlong?

You need it for something?

rayray2k8
05-18-2009, 03:10 PM
:eyebrows

sook
05-18-2009, 03:39 PM
its pathetic to see all these conservative nerds on here whine about how its apparently 'so wrong' for a damn 18yr old to go to a dance with a 23 yr old...

there is NOTHING WRONG with that tiny age gap, give me a break.

i hope Hill fucks the shit out of her just to spite you uptight, prudish assholes.

how , why are you still pinked? You must have committed the ultimate sin.

GSH
05-18-2009, 04:29 PM
Hill's assistant will go to the prom with them so I don't know if the mother has something to fear.

I was going to mention that. George Hill has a full-time assistant who travels with him? Add that to the list of reasons why athletes go broke.

I hope that at least some of the people involved in this remember that it's her prom. And I hope Hill is smart enough to understand that even a hint of a scandal with a high school prom girl would pretty much ruin his NBA future anywhere except Denver.

As for the mom - I think George is taking a much bigger risk. Those parents down in Victoria were happy to let their teenage daughters go to a party with Ron Gant. And afterwards they acted like they were outraged, and filed charges which they tried to use to get a financial settlement. These people sound really nice. But God forbid that one of the girl's friends gives her alcohol (or anything else) while she is at the prom.

I hope, for eveybody's sake, that this turns out to be the nice thing it sounds like. Because it really does sound very nice. I could use a story that turns out good for a change.

Allanon
05-18-2009, 04:34 PM
Props to the Girl and props to George Hill.

Y'all are crazy if you think any part of this is wrong.

GSH
05-18-2009, 04:38 PM
its pathetic to see all these conservative nerds on here whine about how its apparently 'so wrong' for a damn 18yr old to go to a dance with a 23 yr old...

there is NOTHING WRONG with that tiny age gap, give me a break.

i hope Hill fucks the shit out of her just to spite you uptight, prudish assholes.


While I doubt that you deserve a serious reply for that:

LeBron James had two babies by the time he was George Hill's age. Most parents understand that it happens. But most, thankfully, still don't want to encourage it. And in 5-6 years, when you're as hold as George Hill is now, you'll understand that better.

Bruno
05-18-2009, 04:51 PM
I was going to mention that. George Hill has a full-time assistant who travels with him?

I don't think so.

Hill has likely asked his assistant to go with him. His assistant reassure the girl's family and avoid some ugly things like the girl suing Hill.

TDMVPDPOY
05-18-2009, 06:02 PM
HILL is going to get some vajayjay....

look, come touch this....

Bukefal
05-18-2009, 06:07 PM
Come on, of course he has no other intentions, its just an act of good will! He does something good, the community will love him, media is focused on this and the girl gets a great time with her idol. Everyone is happy.

spurscenter
05-18-2009, 06:26 PM
Kobe doesn't need an invitation just a chair and a white chick.

Cry Havoc
05-18-2009, 06:51 PM
You guys are missing the point.

This is the safest date every she could have for prom. Why?

If you think she's going to get more than 30 seconds of dance time alone with George before 14 guys in tuxes sprint over to ask him about the NBA and the Spurs, you're joking.

"George... will you autograph my tux?"

"Can I ditch my date and come back to your place to watch Spurs video?"

:lol

symple19
05-18-2009, 08:50 PM
Okay.George Hill is single. He's a young man. He's rich.
Alright.The girl is YOUNG.She's starstruck. She's naive.

Sounds like a recipe for creepiness to me. Why in the hell would he do this? Does he go visit young men who write to him? I doubt it. Let's all think back (guys) to what was on our mind all the time when we were that age. I'll give you a hint, it starts with a "P" and ends with a "Y".

And it would be easy as hell to ditch the assistant. You're the one who sounds naive to me Bruno

"Let's get back to playing smothering, soul crushing defense".

Oh yeah, and let's get back to dating adults(she's 18 but ain't no adult)

Spursmania
05-18-2009, 10:27 PM
Lol...This is funny as hell.:lol

ploto
05-18-2009, 10:39 PM
Funny how different cultures can be.. is a 5-year age difference is that big a thing?

If they were 30 and 35 no one would care. I assume, though, if they were 11 and 16, then people would. The difference between a high school girl and a 23-year-old man who spent 4 years in college and played professional sports is vast.


If the guy aint white, european, talks with an accent, and suck in the playoffs, ploto don't like em

I sure as hell would not let my teenage daughter attend her high school prom with a 23 year old Beno Udrih!!

ElNono
05-18-2009, 11:26 PM
News update:

The girl is now pregnant... :lol

z0sa
05-18-2009, 11:38 PM
If they were 30 and 35 no one would care. I assume, though, if they were 11 and 16, then people would. The difference between a high school girl and a 23-year-old man who spent 4 years in college and played professional sports is vast.

you wouldn't want your 18 year old daughter going out with a university graduate who's playing pro sports?

lol, no one will ever be good enough for your kids

sprrs
05-19-2009, 02:55 AM
People are making too big a deal about this. It's prom, something you only (usually) get one chance at. It's not like she's starting a relationship with Hill. It's a one-time thing and it will be more then adequately supervised.

She wasn't planning on going which means she couldn't find a date. As someone who had the same problem, I can tell you it's not a good feeling. Do you know how great it would be for her self-esteem to go to such a special event with one of her idols?

poop
05-19-2009, 10:30 AM
how , why are you still pinked? You must have committed the ultimate sin.

yeah i PMed kori ellis about it and so far shes just ignored me.

heres what i did to get pinked: first, i kept supporting POPS MB and saying he brings just what the spurs need so bad. many people did not like this since they automatically hated POPS for some reason. so i was already a hted poster.
2nd, i kept calling out popovich for his horrific rotations and benching of key guys etc.. one day i log on and im pinked. i never attack people unprovoked, i never post anything inappropriate, never done anything wrong actually. there is no real reason for me to be pinked.

ploto
05-19-2009, 11:19 AM
you wouldn't want your 18 year old daughter going out with a university graduate who's playing pro sports?

No- I know too much about what goes on in professional sports. That is not a place I would ever want my high school-aged daughter to be involved, especially with a 23 year old man. And not that it matters, but I do not recall George Hill actually graduating from college. Maybe he did and I missed it.

Kori Ellis
05-19-2009, 12:36 PM
yeah i PMed kori ellis about it and so far shes just ignored me.

heres what i did to get pinked: first, i kept supporting POPS MB and saying he brings just what the spurs need so bad. many people did not like this since they automatically hated POPS for some reason. so i was already a hted poster.
2nd, i kept calling out popovich for his horrific rotations and benching of key guys etc.. one day i log on and im pinked. i never attack people unprovoked, i never post anything inappropriate, never done anything wrong actually. there is no real reason for me to be pinked.

I guess you missed your repeated racist comments about Manu that caused multiple complaints about you.

Anyway, I didn't Pink you. timvp did. So you'll have to state your case with him.

poop
05-19-2009, 12:57 PM
I guess you missed your repeated racist comments about Manu that caused multiple complaints about you.

Anyway, I didn't Pink you. timvp did. So you'll have to state your case with him.

??? thats news to me. id like to see these. chances are im mistaken for someone else, i love Manu. and i didnt know timvp did it.

urunobili
05-19-2009, 01:32 PM
??? thats news to me. id like to see these. chances are im mistaken for someone else, i love Manu. and i didnt know timvp did it.

Sorry to get in the middle of this... but do you remember when you started opening 5 threads per hour with stuff that was more a post in another thread? :wakeup

poop
05-19-2009, 03:54 PM
ive never done that, in fact ive probably only made about 20 threads total since ive been here, and besides its an internet message board, thats what its for.

Agloco
05-20-2009, 08:11 AM
I can understand not letting your high school daughter DATE a 23 year old, but a special prom thing like this? I don't see any downside. Its not like Hill is cruising for easy high school girls, lord knows NBA players, even semi-obscure rookies like Hill, can have all the easy groupie tail they want. He's just doing a nice favor for a girl. Plus, his assistant is going as a pseudo-chaperone. I don't see anything wrong with it.

I think its sweet and classy. It would be like Ashton Kutcher or Shia LeBoeuf taking a fan to her prom. Not a big deal at all.

+1

I think everyone is missing the point. It's a special favor he's doing for this girl. It's not like they're actually together romantically.

Just as an aside, she is 18. I wonder what the cut off age is for all of those people who are opposed to an 18 year old dating a 23 year old.