Red sox nation

[Biernutz]

Big Papi to the bench----

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2009/05/16/ortiz_is_stranded_on_the_bench/

[Biernutz]

Big Papi finally gets a jack!

[Biernutz]

Red Sox sweep the Tigers ...tied for 1st in AL east-----

Boston DH David Ortiz, hitting .187 with one homer, had the day off. Ortiz told reporters before the game that he is considering having his eyes examined. ..Good move Papi

Atlanta Braves released 305-game winner Tom Glavine--Sox should give him a look

[to21]

Red Sox sweep the Tigers ...tied for 1st in AL east-----

Boston DH David Ortiz, hitting .187 with one homer, had the day off. Ortiz told reporters before the game that he is considering having his eyes examined. ..Good move Papi

Atlanta Braves released 305-game winner Tom Glavine--Sox should give him a lookWorked for this guy:

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:E2uIklOERpaP6M:http://www.cnnsi.com/2008/images/10/09/ricky-vaughn-tale.jpg

[Biernutz]

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb270/systime/yankeesSuckKid1.jpg

We own the skanks.........

[Dr. Gonzo]

Red Sox "fans" are the biggest group of douche bags next to Laker fans.

Yet I hate the Yankees more than the Red Sox.

[EricB]

Red Sox "fans" are the biggest group of douche bags next to Laker fans.

Yet I hate the Yankees more than the Red Sox.


Maverick fans in the games I've been to are as well.

[IronMexican]

Red Sox "fans" are the biggest group of douche bags next to Laker fans.

Yet I hate the Yankees more than the Red Sox.

:tu


Edit: I didn't want to quote the Laker fans part. Oh well.

[crc21209]

Go Sox! :tu

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Red Sox fans are way better than Yankees fans.

[Biernutz]

Smoltz scheduled to make Red Sox debut June 25 vs. Nats

June 16, 2009
CBSSports.com wire reports------ BOSTON -- A strong rotation and even better bullpen have led the Red Sox (http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/teams/page/BOS) to the top of the AL East.

http://ad.doubleclick.net/ad/cbssports/mlb/media/stories;arena=mlb;site=media;feat=stories;type=psa ;user=Anonymous;cust=no;sz=300x250;tile=15;ord=916 921245198609? (http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/cbssports/mlb/media/stories;arena=mlb;site=media;feat=stories;type=psa ;user=Anonymous;cust=no;sz=300x250;tile=15;ord=916 921245198609?)
John Smoltz (http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/players/playerpage/8074), the only pitcher in major league history with at least 200 wins and 150 saves, is set to join them.


http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/11862112

[KSeal]

Fuck the Red Cox and faggot Yankees.

[SpurForLife]

Fuck the Red Cox and faggot Yankees.

"F" the Codgers!!!

[Dr. Gonzo]

Codgers? Really? What does that even mean?

[monosylab1k]

I didn't mind the Red Sox back when the Yankees were the lone Evil Empire and the Red Sox were kinda the leaders of the Rebel Alliance of teams trying to take down New York. I'd never been happier than when they came back from being down 0-3 to beat the Yanks.

But these days the Red Sox are out-Yankeeing the Yankees at everything, and I hate the Red Sox almost as much as the Yankees now.

[KSeal]

"F" the Codgers!!!

That was probably the worst comeback I've ever heard, WTF is "Codgers"?

[Biernutz]

Boston is still 4+ up in the AL east.:danceclub

[KSeal]

Faggot bandwagon fan, fuck the red sox and spurs.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Go Sox!!!

[scottspurs]

Red Sox Nation! Red Sox, Cowboys, Spurs, Penguins, and Texas fan since I was a young boy. Spurs are #1 though.

[v2freak]

Faggot bandwagon fan, fuck the red sox and spurs.

Yeah okay. Tell me what Manny Ramirez has done for you and your fan base.

[LnGrrrR]

I didn't mind the Red Sox back when the Yankees were the lone Evil Empire and the Red Sox were kinda the leaders of the Rebel Alliance of teams trying to take down New York. I'd never been happier than when they came back from being down 0-3 to beat the Yanks.

But these days the Red Sox are out-Yankeeing the Yankees at everything, and I hate the Red Sox almost as much as the Yankees now.

:lmao

Nice description Mono. :)

[KSeal]

Red Sox Nation! Red Sox, Cowboys, Spurs, Penguins, and Texas fan since I was a young boy. Spurs are #1 though.

:lmao

Holy shit, a ton of you Spurfans try to act like all Laker fans are bandwagoners, when in truth there are more Spurfans that are bandwagon fans then Laker fans.

Boston, Dallas, San Antonio, Pittsburgh :rollin

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

But these days the Red Sox are out-Yankeeing the Yankees at everything, and I hate the Red Sox almost as much as the Yankees now.

The Yankees have way more spending power than Boston and have shown it with fat ass Sabathia and Mark Texiera. They don't just sign the most talented player possible at each position like NY does, they find players that fit into their lineup and have an identity. NY doesn't really have an identity, they just have a bunch of talented hitters.

[Biernutz]

Boston leading the AL East by three games----


http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb270/systime/16668.jpg

[scottspurs]

I think Clay is going to pitch on Sunday. He deserves his second chance.

[Biernutz]

TORONTO - While Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein called his latest offer to Jason Bay “aggressive,’’ that was apparently not enough, for now. About a week after handing his offer to Bay’s agent, Joe Urbon, Epstein announced for the second time this year that the club and Bay had tabled discussions on a new contract for the left fielder, who becomes a free agent after the season


“It’s now clear that this round of talks won’t result in a deal, either,’’ Epstein said. “As a result, we’re going to table discussions again, which once again is a mutual decision, and pick them up most likely after the season.’’

That does not necessarily mean that Bay is eager to test the free agent market. While that would likely garner him bigger offers, especially with the Yankees in need of a left fielder for 2010 and beyond, Bay said he could resume talks with the Red Sox before filing for free agency. The sides, Bay said, have made progress since they first broke off talks in spring training.

“I’m not trying to set a precedent,’’ Bay said. “Just looking for something that’s fair. Whether that’s changed over the last three months, you guys can determine that.

“It’s the same situation we were in in spring training, where they were at a place where they were comfortable and we were at a place where we’re comfortable and we didn’t bridge the gap. That being said, it doesn’t really mean it’s the end of the world, either. Just didn’t really want it to become a distraction, not so much to myself but to the entire team. So we decided to kind of table that until later, which probably will be till the end of the season.’’

Asked if he was encouraged by the latest round of talks, Bay said, “Yeah . . . They have come a long way and, like I said, it’s not really the end-all, be-all. Definitely more encouraged with the way things went this time, a lot more, actually, that hopefully we get something done.’’

Bay said the Sox had made “great strides and I appreciate it.’’

Bay is in the final year of a contract extension that he signed with Pittsburgh. His salary is $7.5 million this season, about half of what he’s looking for yearly in a new deal, which would be for around four years.

The problem in spring training was that the sides could not agree on the market for outfielders, which had dipped amid a deepening recession. Epstein said yesterday that does not appear to be the issue any longer. As he said, “When a player is a year or less than a year away from free agency, oftentimes he has to factor in the best-case scenario of free agency and a club has to focus maybe less on the free agent market and more on the expected performance going forward.’’

The general manager stressed that the talks, which restarted in mid-June, were amicable, and that there was disappointment that a deal could not be reached.

“I think we were really hopeful with the aggressive offer that we made that we could have reached a deal now,’’ Epstein said. “But we have complete respect for Jason as a player and a person and for what free agency means to players. He’s worked his whole career and had a really consistent career to get to a point where he can set his family up for life. We’re not going to begrudge him. We’re not going to hold anything against him because he makes a decision that he may want to wait and be able to consider every possible opportunity.’’

The sides can sit down again after the World Series, when they’ll have 15 days before Bay has to decide if he’ll file for free agency.

“I am in no position to say that I want to file for free agency and see what’s out there,’’ he said. “I’d still love to get something done here. I like it here. But that being said, we just basically at this point right now don’t want it to be an ongoing distraction, like I said, for both of us coming to the field and answering contract questions.

“So we’re kind of tabling it and there’s a big window after the season. We can sit down and try to hammer something out again. But the way things have gone so far, like I said, very encouraged with that.’’


http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2009/07/18/red_sox_bay_put_contract_talks_on_hold/

[Biernutz]

TORONTO - The signs were there for nearly six weeks, ever since a botched defensive play June 5 by Julio Lugo contributed to a loss to the Texas Rangers. But the problems had been there from the start of his exorbitant contract with the Red Sox, as Lugo clearly didn’t demonstrate the skills he had promised. And then yesterday, 2 1/2 years into a four-year, $36 million project, Lugo’s tenure ended nearly as badly as it started.
With his days as the starting shortstop long over, his days as a member of the Sox came to a close as the team designated Lugo for assignment. It was the end of a rocky relationship that never seemed quite right. And with the move, which opened up space for Jed Lowrie to return to the roster today, general manager Theo Epstein finally admitted that the signing had been an error.

“I think ownership has been consistent that we’ll do what we need to do to keep the best possible team on the field,’’ Epstein said yesterday. “A sunk cost is a sunk cost. We’re sorry it didn’t work out better with Julio, obviously. But keeping him on the team wasn’t going to change that. Sometimes the best organizations admit their mistakes and they move on. And that’s what we’re doing here.

“This was one of the free agent signings that doesn’t work out. We were paying for past performance, not current performance. That’s the true definition of a mistake, and, as the decision-maker, that’s on me. We’ll just move on and be a better organization having gone through it, and we’ll make better decisions going forward.’’

With the Red Sox likely to eat approximately $13.5 million of Lugo’s remaining contract, that makes about $24.5 million the Epstein regime has had to pay out to nonproducing free agent shortstops (Lugo and Edgar Renteria) after they were no longer with the Red Sox.

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2009/07/18/red_sox_designate_lugo_for_assignment/

[KSeal]

Wave goodbye to first place fagsox!

[scottspurs]

Finally a win last night. I think the sox are about to turn it around. Plus they play the yankees in two week so if they haven't caught them by then, they will own them again and take over.

[KSeal]

lol retarded sox thinking they had something in John Smoltz, what a failure.

[scottspurs]

John SMoltz needs to retire.

[v2freak]

Smoltz is still better than Dice-K at this point, and if things go south they have spot starters in Masterson and Buchholz. I think Smoltz will turn it around though. I can see him winning 3 of his next 5 games, throw in a no decision, 30 strike outs, 30+ innings.

[KSeal]

Smoltz is still better than Dice-K at this point, and if things go south they have spot starters in Masterson and Buchholz. I think Smoltz will turn it around though. I can see him winning 3 of his next 5 games, throw in a no decision, 30 strike outs, 30+ innings.

So the guy that's 1-4 with a 7.04 ERA is better then the guy the Red Sox paid 51 million just to negotiate with, that's nice to know. Red Sox are just such a classy well ran organization!

[Greg Oden]

So the guy that's 1-4 with a 7.04 ERA is better then the guy the Red Sox paid 51 million just to negotiate with, that's nice to know. Red Sox are just such a classy well ran organization!

Only retards and faggot laker fans say they weren't.

[KSeal]

Only retards and faggot laker fans say they weren't.

Well written sentence there, old man.

[v2freak]

So the guy that's 1-4 with a 7.04 ERA is better then the guy the Red Sox paid 51 million just to negotiate with, that's nice to know. Red Sox are just such a classy well ran organization!

In my opinion, yes. This is especially true right now. Dice-K has had a good ERA and number of wins in years past, and always tallies a bunch of Ks. But right now his mechanics are off, and he needs to get it fixed. Smoltz on the other hand has been solid, but he has been running into problem innings that unravel otherwise good starts. He'll usually cruise to the 5th inning and then start to break down.

And even if Dice-K never won another game in his life, quit acting like no team has ever over paid a player.

[scottspurs]

A rotation of Beckett/Halladay or Lee/Lester/Dice K/Wakefield would look really good, but I am still high on Clay Buchholz. Trade or no trade I will be happy. Halladay is already dominant, but Clay could be dominant for 10 more years.

[KSeal]

A rotation of Beckett/Halladay or Lee/Lester/Dice K/Wakefield would look really good, but I am still high on Clay Buchholz. Trade or no trade I will be happy. Halladay is already dominant, but Clay could be dominant for 10 more years.

:lmao I'd be high on a guy that last year went 2-9 with a 6.7 ERA too. Clay Buchholz has to be one of the most overrated players ever. I'd trade his ass away for V-Mart or Halladay in a nanosecond.

Ten years of dominance :lmao

[scottspurs]

What a horrible loss tonight. Tens years of dominance for sure.

[v2freak]

Buchholz is 1-1 right now with a 3.86 ERA or something like that right now. Not a great sample size with 3 emergency starts this season but it's definitely an improvement.

And yes, today was a debacle. But every dog has its day. Only Papelbon's 3rd blown save in 28 opportunities.

[KSeal]

Buchholz is 1-1 right now with a 3.86 ERA or something like that right now. Not a great sample size with 3 emergency starts this season but it's definitely an improvement.

And yes, today was a debacle. But every dog has its day. Only Papelbon's 3rd blown save in 28 opportunities.

I'm not saying Buchholz is bad, but judging by the Boston media and the things Boston fans say you'd think the guy is a worst case scenario Nolan Ryan. It's insane how hyped this guy is and he really hasn't done a damn thing since that no hitter a couple years back and was completely horrible all last year while not doing a whole lot this year either.

[v2freak]

True. He wasted a year-long opportunity to get things back on track last year, which is why I'm glad the Sox went and got Brad Penny to be the 5th starter. Buchholz isn't ready for the big leagues just yet, but no one is saying his 10 years of dominance is going to be immediate. And, he's already showing improvement at the major league level.

Yesterday 5.2 innings pitched, 9 hits 2 runs. Not bad at all. He was one out away from a quality start.

[scottspurs]

I am starting to believe everyone used steriods from 90 to now.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I'm not saying Buchholz is bad, but judging by the Boston media and the things Boston fans say you'd think the guy is a worst case scenario Nolan Ryan. It's insane how hyped this guy is and he really hasn't done a damn thing since that no hitter a couple years back and was completely horrible all last year while not doing a whole lot this year either.

All prospects coming out of NY and Boston are somewhat overhyped, if Boston can trade Clay for halladay they better do it. By far the most overhyped prospect in recent years was Ian Kennedy, the guy everyone says was the next Greg Maddux, and they only said that cause his fast ball sucks.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

In my personal view, no matter how good a prospect is supposed to be, when you can trade unproven talent for proven talent, you fuckin do it.

Boston needs to get Halladay and Martinez. Their batting and pitching need help. They were too scared to bite the bullet when Texiera gave them a chance to match NY's offer, they can't make that mistake again.

[Dr. Gonzo]

In my personal view, no matter how good a prospect is supposed to be, when you can trade unproven talent for proven talent, you fuckin do it.

Boston needs to get Halladay and Martinez. Their batting and pitching need help. They were too scared to bite the bullet when Texiera gave them a chance to match NY's offer, they can't make that mistake again.

That's what got the Astros in such bad shape.

[crc21209]

Red Sox deal three for Victor Martinez

CLEVELAND -- The Boston Red Sox got the big bat they were looking for, acquiring All-Star slugger Victor Martinez from the Cleveland Indians on Friday.

The rebuilding Indians received right-hander Justin Masterson and minor league pitchers Nick Hagadone and Bryan Price. The trade came shortly before the 4 p.m. ET deadline to complete deals without waivers.

Prior to officially acquiring Martinez, Boston spun off first baseman Adam LaRoche and cash in a trade with his former team, the Braves. LaRoche, who was acquired from Pittsburgh for prospects on July 22, returns to Atlanta in exchange for first baseman Casey Kotchman.

The 30-year-old Martinez has split his time at catcher and first base this season. The switch-hitter is batting .284 with 15 home runs and 67 RBIs.

Martinez, who had spent his whole career with Cleveland, fought back tears after being told he'd been traded. He sat in front of his locker, hugging son Victor Jr. -- earlier in the day, the young boy asked his dad, "Are we still an Indian?"

"It's tough," Martinez said. "This is my house. This is my home."

Martinez leaves Cleveland a day before the Indians were to hold Victor Martinez Bobblehead Night at Progressive Field in their game against Detroit.

He'll move right into a pennant race with Kotchman, joining a Red Sox team that is second in the AL East behind the New York Yankees, but leads the wild-card chase.

Kotchman was traded almost exactly one year after he was acquired by the Braves from the Los Angeles Angels for Mark Teixeira.

"You've been traded already so you're a little more used to it," Kotchman said. "I'm a little surprised but not overwhelmingly surprised."

Kotchman is hitting .282 with six homers and 41 RBIs and hasn't committed an error in his two seasons with the Braves.

"It's been a privilege to play for Bobby Cox and his staff," Kotchman said.

Martinez's deal was the second major trade in three days for the disappointing Indians, who sent Cy Young winner Cliff Lee to the Philadelphia Phillies on Wednesday for four prospects.

Cleveland, which began the weekend 12 games out of first in the AL Central, has slashed nearly $25 million in payroll by trading Lee, Martinez, third baseman Mark DeRosa, reliever Rafael Betancourt and first baseman Ryan Garko.

"When you don't perform or have good results, things are going to happen like this," Indians center fielder Grady Sizemore said. "It's start from scratch now."

Martinez will likely share catching duties in Boston with Jason Varitek and can fill in at first base and designated hitter.

The Red Sox did not give up Clay Buchholz, one of their top pitching prospects, for Martinez. But they did part with three quality arms in order to bolster their lineup.

The versatile Masterson was Boston's second-round pick in 2006. He went 3-3 with a 4.50 ERA in 31 appearances, including six starts for the Red Sox this season. The 6-foot-6 righty was a key part of the Red Sox's run to the playoffs a year ago, going 6-5 with a 3.16 ERA in 36 games after being called up from the minors.

The 23-year-old Hagadone, a 6-foot-5 lefty, has pitched sparingly since being drafted No. 55 overall by the Red Sox in 2007. He missed much of the 2008 season after having Tommy John surgery and has worked only 25 innings this year, going 0-2 with a 2.52 ERA at Class A Greenville.

Price was drafted 45th overall in 2008. The 22-year-old righty has struggled in his first two years of pro ball, going just 5-11 record with a 4.42 ERA in 31 outings.

This marked the second straight year the Red Sox made a splash at the July 31 trade deadline. Last season, they dealt away Manny Ramirez and got Jason Bay.

In 2004, the Red Sox also made a last-minute deal, trading away popular Nomar Garciaparra and acquiring Orlando Cabrera to play shortstop. Boston went on to win the World Series that year.

The Red Sox held a three-game lead in the AL East at the All-Star break, but a five-game losing streak on the ensuing road trip dropped them into second place behind the rival Yankees.

Boston has won only four of its last 12 games, has a losing record on the road and five of the starting nine are batting .250 or below.

Boston general manager Theo Epstein has already been active this month: He traded for LaRoche, sent shortstop Julio Lugo to St. Louis for minor leaguer Chris Duncan, and got outfielder Brian Anderson from the Chicago White Sox for infielder Mark Kotsay.

But a bigger deal, for Toronto ace Roy Halladay, fell apart when Boston refused to part with both Buchholz and reliever Daniel Bard.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4369463

Good trade for the Sox :tu

[KSeal]

I'm just glad the douche bag Red Sox didn't get Adrian Gonzalez.

Victor Martinez = Overrated.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

You gotta be kidding, they didn't get Halladay cause Toronto wanted Buchholz?

As usual, Theo's dick shrivels up when push comes to shove at the trade deadline. It'll be just like three years ago when Boston needed a lot of help, didn't get any, and missed the playoffs. Boston needed more help than Victor Martinez.

[v2freak]

So Martinez will be playing primarily first base, correct? That means either Youk or Lowell will be the odd man out, and I think Lowell recently has proven a chance to keep playing. He's been crushing the ball and playing his usual stellar defense.

Youk on the other hand is great, and a swiss army knife. He can play LF too, but then that means Ellsbury, Bay or Drew will have to take a seat. These aren't exactly bad problems to have, but every player is steadily coming out of the woodwork after a string of anemic hitting.

[KSeal]

lol Roid Sox nation dismantling before our eyes.

[crc21209]

lol Roid Sox nation dismantling before our eyes.

:sleep