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DAF86
05-16-2009, 10:24 PM
and why?

Winehole23
05-16-2009, 10:55 PM
I consider myself (sort of) a whig, in both American and British senses.

There is no political party that suits me that I am aware of. The LP-USA is run by crackpots and nitwits. I respect the Constitution Party, but their emphasis on Christianity is a wrong turn IMO.

I'm basically a political fossil. I don't really see that changing.

balli
05-16-2009, 11:24 PM
Green- though I'm maybe a bit more rightward about the US of A kicking a little ass if need be.

We don't talk about it much in here, other than inane arguments about global warming which are at an impasse, but by far my biggest issue is the environment.


1. GRASSROOTS DEMOCRACY

Every human being deserves a say in the decisions that affect his or her life and should not be subject to the will of another. Therefore, we will work to increase public participation at every level of government and to ensure that our public representatives are fully accountable to the people who elect them. We will also work to create new types of political organizations which expand the process of participatory democracy by directly including citizens in the decision-making process.

2. SOCIAL JUSTICE AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY

All persons should have the rights and opportunity to benefit equally from the resources afforded us by society and the environment. We must consciously confront in ourselves, our organizations, and society at large, barriers such as racism and class oppression, sexism and homophobia, ageism and disability, which act to deny fair treatment and equal justice under the law.

3. ECOLOGICAL WISDOM

Human societies must operate with the understanding that we are part of nature, not separate from nature.
We must maintain an ecological balance and live within the ecological and resource limits of our communities and our planet. We support a sustainable society which utilizes resources in such a way that future generations will benefit and not suffer from the practices of our generation. To this end we must practice agriculture which replenishes the soil; move to an energy efficient economy; and live in ways that respect the integrity of natural systems.

4. NON-VIOLENCE

It is essential that we develop effective alternatives to society's current patterns of violence. We will work to demilitarize, and eliminate weapons of mass destruction, without being naive about the intentions of other governments.
We recognize the need for self-defense and the defense of others who are in helpless situations. We promote non-violent methods to oppose practices and policies with which we disagree, and will guide our actions toward lasting personal, community and global peace.

5. DECENTRALIZATION

Centralization of wealth and power contributes to social and economic injustice, environmental destruction, and militarization. Therefore, we support a restructuring of social, political and economic institutions away from a system which is controlled by and mostly benefits the powerful few, to a democratic, less bureaucratic system. Decision-making should, as much as possible, remain at the individual and local level, while assuring that civil rights are protected for all citizens.

6. COMMUNITY BASED ECONOMICS

Redesign our work structures to encourage employee ownership and workplace democracy. Develop new economic activities and institutions that will allow us to use our new technologies in ways that are humane, freeing, ecological and accountable, and responsive to communities.
Establish some form of basic economic security, open to all.
Move beyond the narrow "job ethic" to new definitions of "work," jobs" and "income" that reflect the changing economy.
Restructure our patterns of income distribution to reflect the wealth created by those outside the formal monetary economy: those who take responsibility for parenting, housekeeping, home gardens, community volunteer work, etc.
Restrict the size and concentrated power of corporations without discouraging superior efficiency or technological innovation.

7. FEMINISM AND GENDER EQUITY

We have inherited a social system based on male domination of politics and economics. We call for the replacement of the cultural ethics of domination and control with more cooperative ways of interacting that respect differences of opinion and gender. Human values such as equity between the sexes, interpersonal responsibility, and honesty must be developed with moral conscience. We should remember that the process that determines our decisions and actions is just as important as achieving the outcome we want.

8. RESPECT FOR DIVERSITY

We believe it is important to value cultural, ethnic, racial, sexual, religious and spiritual diversity, and to promote the development of respectful relationships across these lines.
We believe that the many diverse elements of society should be reflected in our organizations and decision-making bodies, and we support the leadership of people who have been traditionally closed out of leadership roles. We acknowledge and encourage respect for other life forms than our own and the preservation of biodiversity.

9. PERSONAL AND GLOBAL RESPONSIBILITY

We encourage individuals to act to improve their personal well-being and, at the same time, to enhance ecological balance and social harmony. We seek to join with people and organizations around the world to foster peace, economic justice, and the health of the planet.

10. FUTURE FOCUS AND SUSTAINABILITY

Our actions and policies should be motivated by long-term goals. We seek to protect valuable natural resources, safely disposing of or "unmaking" all waste we create, while developing a sustainable economics that does not depend on continual expansion for survival. We must counterbalance the drive for short-term profits by assuring that economic development, new technologies, and fiscal policies are responsible to future generations who will inherit the results of our actions.
Make the quality of life, rather than open-ended economic growth, the focus of future thinking.

ElNono
05-16-2009, 11:58 PM
You know, this is a very hard question. Because even if some party would align better than another to your ideas, they don't even respect their own ideals these days.
For example, you would think voting Republican would mean, among other things, being fiscally responsible. But you would be hard pressed to find Republicans that actually do what they preach.
On the Democrat side is the same thing. You would think they would tackle full on things like immigration reform now that they control both congress and the executive. But the reality is that they won't touch it with a ten foot pole.

Marcus Bryant
05-17-2009, 12:31 AM
Neither of the top two. The Constitution has been relegated to the dustbin of history. Everyone thinks they have the grand scheme that is best for you, but ultimately it's about circumscribing individual liberty to enhance the grandeur of the state.

Galileo
05-17-2009, 12:39 AM
Libertarian Party = smaller government

1) end the war on drugs

2) end the war on terror

3) end the income tax

4) restore civil liberties & economic freedom

5) restore the U.S. Constitution

Winehole23
05-17-2009, 12:41 AM
The Constitution has been relegated to the dustbin of history.I agree, but i'm still hot as a pistol about this.

Cry Havoc
05-17-2009, 02:10 AM
I agree, but i'm still hot as a pistol about this.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/54/108346305_818dff231c.jpg?v=0


Libertarian Party = smaller government

1) end the war on drugs

2) end the war on terror

4) restore civil liberties & economic freedom

5) restore the U.S. Constitution

Yup. Deleted the one that needs to stay, but yup.

MiamiHeat
05-17-2009, 03:08 AM
the MiamiHeat party

Nbadan
05-17-2009, 05:32 AM
....and for the REPUBLIC for which we stand....

fyatuk
05-17-2009, 05:47 AM
DSA comes closest to expressing my views, but every party has parts I just plain can't stand. I don't particularly care for political parties and I think it would be wonderful if they all went away so that people paid attention to individual candidates views instead of most people judging by which party they are.

Parties make more sense in a parliamentary system. Not so much with the way we work here.

Winehole23
05-17-2009, 08:33 AM
DSA=Democratic Socialists of America, for those who may not have heard yet.

Supergirl
05-17-2009, 08:53 AM
Both the 2 major parties are too beholden to corporate interests for my tastes. None of the other parties are really viable. Neither the Greens nor the Libertarians - the closest thing we have to a viable third option - can seem to find a candidate who doesn't look like a fucktard in a debate.

So I picked "none."

Winehole23
05-17-2009, 09:35 AM
the MiamiHeat partyYou should caucus with the other majorities of one around here: WC and Yonivore.

FaithInOne
05-17-2009, 09:44 AM
All I give a shit about is small government. I'm a minarchist.

Nothing more than pipe dreams in this day and age :depressed

Fuck the collectivists, fuck the socialists, fuck groupthink, fuck unions, fuck political correctness, fuck using climate change as a tool to gain more control, fuck increasing federal power, Obama: "fuck the 10th amendment" :rollin

America should be about The Individual. Nothing more nothing less.

Wild Cobra
05-17-2009, 11:06 AM
Why the short-sighted poll?

There are way more than just three parties!

coyotes_geek
05-17-2009, 11:44 AM
Libertarian comes closest for me.

DAF86
05-17-2009, 04:47 PM
Why the short-sighted poll?

There are way more than just three parties!

'cause they are the three most common ones.

mookie2001
05-17-2009, 06:45 PM
whats most common in argentina?

DAF86
05-17-2009, 06:59 PM
whats most common in argentina?

Mas comun

mookie2001
05-17-2009, 07:14 PM
hmmm

maybe i need to go drop some science in argentine political forums

DAF86
05-17-2009, 07:22 PM
hmmm

maybe i need to go drop some science in argentine political forums

Did you see me drop something in here about US politics? I just made a question. But either way you gotta know that what happens in the US affects all the other countries so if a foreign wants to argue about US politics it's not like he is getting into a topic that doesn't concern him.

Trainwreck2100
05-17-2009, 08:41 PM
neither, and like lawyers the world would be better off without them

DAF86
05-18-2009, 06:36 PM
Are you seriously saying that there are more Libertarians on this board than Democrats or Republicans?

TheProfessor
05-18-2009, 07:25 PM
I guess ideologically I line up more with Democrats, particularly with social issues. But I hate the party in general.