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monoslyab1k
05-19-2009, 10:49 PM
Yet another drafting clusterfuck by our front office.

But hey, we love our team! We don't need youth athleticism and defense! We have savvy vets/Laker leftovers like Devean George and Eddie Jones!

:cheer :cheer

iggypop123
05-19-2009, 11:03 PM
dude was a second rounder. everyone missed

21_Blessings
05-19-2009, 11:06 PM
No, you can't have Ariza San Antonio.

Showtime24 LAKERS
05-19-2009, 11:06 PM
Clutch defensive play by a clutch defensive playa. clutch freethrow shooting by Kobe to sealed the the deal. He even got the last rebound. Lakers got game 1.

lefty
05-19-2009, 11:06 PM
No, you can't have Ariza San Antonio.
:depressed

baseline bum
05-19-2009, 11:30 PM
If the Lakers gotta win, at least it's nice seeing a Bruin get it for them. :tu

HarlemHeat37
05-19-2009, 11:31 PM
I really hope we don't pursue Ariza..he's one of the most overrated players in the NBA IMO..he's certainly good, but he's going to get overpaid..

turiaf for president
05-19-2009, 11:31 PM
arizas gonna get paid! i love this guy. think hes going to do a better job of denying carmelo the ball in game 2

Laker-fan-in-SanAnto
05-19-2009, 11:35 PM
Playa needs to get payed to stay in LA. Shit I wish he could play all 48 mins. I can't stand to watch Fluke Walton play. I keep repeating myself but if this bench doesn't pick it up, it can be trouble down the road.

JamStone
05-19-2009, 11:36 PM
Ariza brings effort and athleticism and has really improved his perimeter shooting. He's become a very good player. He was also getting lit up in the first quarter by Melo. Really good role player for the Lakers, but I agree with whoever said he's overrated. Still a guy the Lakers should want to keep. But anything much more than the MLE is probably too much. They wouldn't even go up to the MLE for Turiaf.

As for teams missing out on Ariza in the draft, the one redeeming executive skill Isiah Thomas had among all his other failures in his post-playing days was identifying players outside the lottery and into the second round that had the talent and abilities to stick in the league.

HarlemHeat37
05-19-2009, 11:37 PM
Definitely..Isiah is widely credited for his skills at drafting though, so it's good to see that he's useful in some regard off the court..

Killakobe81
05-19-2009, 11:51 PM
Ariza should not be overpaid becuz offensively he is limited ... he needs to be with other great scorers to be effective.
However he has a calm demeanor, plays hard and is good finisher with an impoving "J" Lakers need to find a way 2 keep him.

noob cake
05-19-2009, 11:58 PM
Ariza is the second best player on the team.

KSeal
05-19-2009, 11:58 PM
Lakers will resign this steals mastermind while dumbass Lamar walks, my hope anyways. THANKS FOR THE CHOKE DENVER!!!!

ginobili's bald spot
05-20-2009, 12:31 AM
Ariza brings effort and athleticism and has really improved his perimeter shooting. He's become a very good player. He was also getting lit up in the first quarter by Melo. Really good role player for the Lakers, but I agree with whoever said he's overrated. Still a guy the Lakers should want to keep. But anything much more than the MLE is probably too much.

Good post. It's a rare occurrence on this site.

21_Blessings
05-20-2009, 12:34 AM
He was also getting lit up in the first quarter by Melo.

Most of that came when Luke was guarding him. Although Melo hit a contested three poitner in Ariza's face, but at least it was contested compared to Luke just bending over.


but I agree with whoever said he's overrated.

Coming from the guy who was saying Ariza wasn't even a starter at the start of the season.


But anything much more than the MLE is probably too much. They wouldn't even go up to the MLE for Turiaf.
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Ariza is better than Turiaf and he fills a need. Ronny wouldn't have seen any minutes behind Bynum, Gasol, Odom.

IronMexican
05-20-2009, 12:35 AM
Turiaf for the MLE would have been a huge mistake. Not as bad as giving it to Puke or Rad, but pretty bad.

MambaJuice2408
05-20-2009, 12:40 AM
Turiaf for the MLE would have been a huge mistake. Not as bad as giving it to Puke or Rad, but pretty bad.

You can officially throw Vujabitch's name in there as well.

IronMexican
05-20-2009, 12:44 AM
Forgot Sasha. He's #1 on that list. I hate that fagot so much. I really can't even explain how much I hate him.

lefty
05-20-2009, 11:41 AM
Lakers should get rid of Vujacic, and keep Ariza.

Vujacic sucks big time, I don't know why he is in the NBA in the 1st place.



Trevor is a keeper; give him the $$$$

RonMexico
05-20-2009, 12:46 PM
Ariza gets money and gets lazy... count it.

urunobili
05-20-2009, 12:49 PM
I'll enjoy seeing a team overpaying him to get out of LA :stirpot:

turiaf for president
05-20-2009, 01:22 PM
no ones gonna offer more than the MLE. i can see the lakers doing a 3 year 15 mil deal they gave sasha last year.

as far as 21_blessings, i disagree. ariza got worked by melo. he admitted it himself. melo shot like 6-7 in the 1st quarter or something like that.

i think game 2, ariza should try to deny the ball to melo. front him in the post and over play him on screens.

JamStone
05-20-2009, 02:14 PM
Most of that came when Luke was guarding him. Although Melo hit a contested three poitner in Ariza's face, but at least it was contested compared to Luke just bending over.

Carmelo continued to play well when Luke came in. He had started the game 4-for-5 from the field for 9 points before Luke had even checked in the game.



Coming from the guy who was saying Ariza wasn't even a starter at the start of the season.

Would love to see that quote and link. I may have said something along those lines last year in the playoffs when Laker fans said he was the second coming before he had proved that his jumper had improved to the point of being consistently reliable. But, by all means, if I said that at the beginning of the season, please show me the quote and link.



Ariza is better than Turiaf and he fills a need. Ronny wouldn't have seen any minutes behind Bynum, Gasol, Odom.

I agree with Ariza being a need, but Turiaf at $4-5 million a year would have been worth it if for anything else that he does not shy from contact down low and brings toughness, an issue yet again this year for the Lakers. Turiaf would have gotten minutes in the Houston series because Gasol and Bynum bitched up.

And, I brought up Turiaf but should have added that while they didn't match Golden State's offer, they made ridiculous signings like Walton and Radman. If Ariza agrees to contract worth somewhere around the MLE, it's worth it. If he starts looking for a contract getting into the $7-8 million a year range, I think it's overpaying.

monosylab1k
05-20-2009, 04:55 PM
Ariza gets money and gets lazy... count it.

:tu someone's going to pay him alot of money and be extremely disappointed at what they get in return.

lefty
05-20-2009, 05:38 PM
I would have a lazy Ariza over Bonner and Finley any day