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DesignatedT
05-20-2009, 07:26 PM
On the pre-game charles and kenny said Duncan would be the starting PF on both of there all-time starting line-ups... saying that olajuwon or russel couldnt play PF.



was nice to see...

HarlemHeat37
05-20-2009, 07:31 PM
They always do, especially Barkley..

raspsa
05-20-2009, 07:34 PM
I think Olajuwon could play PF.

adidas11
05-20-2009, 07:48 PM
Duncan has always played center, even if he is listed on the scoresheet as a PF.

Blake
05-20-2009, 07:57 PM
Duncan > Hakeem

jrmp317
05-20-2009, 08:12 PM
Duncan has always played center, even if he is listed on the scoresheet as a PF.

even when DRob, Nazr, Rasho, and Fab have played next to him? Wow that's weird.

exstatic
05-20-2009, 10:02 PM
Duncan has always played center, even if he is listed on the scoresheet as a PF.

Offensively, you are correct. Tim has both the smarts and the footwork to be categorized as one of the best post players in history. One of the TV analysts said he had the second best post game on the planet to Olajuwan, before he played an NBA game. David always had a much more PF oriented offensive game, facing the basket, shooting, driving, cutting. I always said they switched positions from offense to defense.

However, David was the defensive center until he hung up his kicks. He was the cover for the opponent's center, which in those days still included Dream, Shaq, Ewing,'Zo, AND the last line of defense at the hoop. Tim didn't take over those duties until his seventh season when David was gone.

I. Hustle
05-20-2009, 10:11 PM
WTF?! You stole my avatar!


lol

lefty
05-20-2009, 10:44 PM
I think Olajuwon could play PF.
+1

Man, imagine Hakeem+TD together in the paint :wow

exstatic
05-20-2009, 10:49 PM
WTF?! You stole my avatar!


lol

He has the "wide screen" version.

peskypesky
05-20-2009, 11:15 PM
+1

Man, imagine Hakeem+TD together in the paint :wow

i'd love to see them going against Kareem and Bill Russell

Solid D
05-21-2009, 12:10 AM
Duncan has played Center and Power Forward over the years. If you can't decide who played which position when David and Tim were the Twin Towers of San Antonio, then just go to the classic or original definition of the "Jump Center" and figure it out from there.

Solid D
05-21-2009, 12:23 AM
P.S. - There was one experiment where Pop played the Triple Towers with Will Perdue, David Robinson and Tim Duncan with Timmy playing the Small Forward. The Spurs held a very good Indiana Pacers team to 55 points in a game in the 1997 season with the Triple Towers starting lineup. Timmy guarded Chris Mullen.

TheSpursFNRule
05-21-2009, 01:08 AM
Barkley loves Duncan. He's always saying he's(Tim) the best powerfoward of all time.

duncan228
05-21-2009, 01:10 AM
Barkley has good taste in power forwards. :)

Blackjack
05-21-2009, 01:19 AM
Barkley loves Duncan. He's always saying he's(Tim) the best powerfoward of all time.

True, but he forgot about Tim when asked to name his team.

Kenny had to ask Charles who he thought was the greatest power-forward of all-time, because he couldn't understand how Chuck would leave him off the team.

I liked Kenny's team with Russell, Duncan, Bird, (I think?) Jordan, and Magic.

Thomas82
05-21-2009, 04:22 AM
barkley has good taste in power forwards. :)

+1

Spurs Brazil
05-21-2009, 09:10 AM
P.S. - There was one experiment where Pop played the Triple Towers with Will Perdue, David Robinson and Tim Duncan with Timmy playing the Small Forward. The Spurs held a very good Indiana Pacers team to 55 points in a game in the 1997 season with the Triple Towers starting lineup. Timmy guarded Chris Mullen.

Pop played that lineup after Sean went down. I saw that game one against the Suns the other day in my old VCR, TD monster game, and he started the game guarding McCloud.

MI21
05-21-2009, 11:46 AM
Pop played that lineup after Sean went down. I saw that game one against the Suns the other day in my old VCR, TD monster game, and he started the game guarding McCloud.

That reminds me of 2004-2005 against the Suns when Timmy started out defending Q-Rich and doing a very good job.

Younger Timmy was pretty good when guarding smaller players or when switched onto a quicker player in a PnR.

Brazil
05-21-2009, 12:45 PM
Pop played that lineup after Sean went down. I saw that game one against the Suns the other day in my old VCR, TD monster game, and he started the game guarding McCloud.

SB you have a monster elephant memory

Spurs Brazil
05-21-2009, 02:47 PM
SB you have a monster elephant memory

:lol


Actually I have a lot of Spurs games on tape since 95. And every off season I see a lot of those.

duncan228
05-21-2009, 02:59 PM
Actually I have a lot of Spurs games on tape since 95. And every off season I see a lot of those.

I've been recording every game for the past several seasons. Being able to watch great games from the past is a fun way to pass the long off season.

HarlemHeat37
05-21-2009, 03:07 PM
Duncan was athletic as fuck before his surgery, it's really forgotten when people mention his physical gifts..

I've been watching the '99 run the past 2 weeks, and he was truly different in that aspect..

duncan228
05-21-2009, 03:56 PM
Duncan was athletic as fuck before his surgery, it's really forgotten when people mention his physical gifts..

I've been watching the '99 run the past 2 weeks, and he was truly different in that aspect..

It's easy to forget that he once could move. The surgery was early in his career, we're used to him not being as athletic. Although he did play out of his mind in his MVP years, especially the '02-'03 run.

Those early years are wonderful to watch. We've been spoiled having him on our team. We expect nothing short of brilliance.

At least he still is brilliant on the court, even if he can't jump anymore. :lol

HarlemHeat37
05-21-2009, 04:34 PM
His MVP runs were his prime, where he combined everything..I believe his first few years were his absolute peak from a purely athletic standpoint though..

I don't worry about Tim anyways, he can play the high post and shoot well enough to remain as an elite player for a few more years..

mingus
05-21-2009, 04:42 PM
P.S. - There was one experiment where Pop played the Triple Towers with Will Perdue, David Robinson and Tim Duncan with Timmy playing the Small Forward. The Spurs held a very good Indiana Pacers team to 55 points in a game in the 1997 season with the Triple Towers starting lineup. Timmy guarded Chris Mullen.

IIRC weren't the Pacers missing several key guys that game though ?

still impressive if they were though ...

Solid D
05-21-2009, 07:04 PM
IIRC weren't the Pacers missing several key guys that game though ?

still impressive if they were though ...

After a little research...here you go mingus. I don't see Reggie Miller nor Rik Smits in the lineup.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199803290IND.html

timvp
05-21-2009, 07:23 PM
P.S. - There was one experiment where Pop played the Triple Towers with Will Perdue, David Robinson and Tim Duncan with Timmy playing the Small Forward. The Spurs held a very good Indiana Pacers team to 55 points in a game in the 1997 season with the Triple Towers starting lineup. Timmy guarded Chris Mullen.

I have this game on VHS somewhere. Duncan actually started the game defending Mark Jackson. The matchups to begin the game were:

Robinson on Dale Davis
Perdue on Antonio Davis
Del Negro on Fred Hoiberg
J. Jackson on Chris Mullin
Duncan on Mark Jackson

It's one of my favorite games to watch because Duncan guarding a point guard for a majority of the game is amazing -- especially in retrospect. I wonder how many times in NBA history a "center" defended a point guard for 30+ minutes in a game.

Also during that broadcast (it was an afternoon game on NBC) they had an interview with Pop and he said that he wasn't sure if Duncan's future is as a small forward or a power forward. Pop said that Duncan would actually prefer small forward :lol

Oh and another reason that game is fun to watch because Jaren Jackson and Reggie Geary were very impressive defenders. Prior to Jackson "expanding" after the '99 championship, people forget how good of a defender he was. He wasn't quite Bowen but that version of Jackson might be the second best perimeter defender in the Duncan era.

And man, Geary was such a stud defender. He could have a been a Bowen level defender -- except about five inches smaller. Too bad he had absolutely no offensive game. None.







P.S.

I wish Pop would go back to collecting a bunch of starving role players who just care about defense. I'd rather this team lose 70-60 than 110-100. :depressed

Solid D
05-21-2009, 09:14 PM
I have this game on VHS somewhere. Duncan actually started the game defending Mark Jackson. The matchups to begin the game were:

Robinson on Dale Davis
Perdue on Antonio Davis
Del Negro on Fred Hoiberg
J. Jackson on Chris Mullin
Duncan on Mark Jackson

It's one of my favorite games to watch because Duncan guarding a point guard for a majority of the game is amazing -- especially in retrospect. I wonder how many times in NBA history a "center" defended a point guard for 30+ minutes in a game.

Also during that broadcast (it was an afternoon game on NBC) they had an interview with Pop and he said that he wasn't sure if Duncan's future is as a small forward or a power forward. Pop said that Duncan would actually prefer small forward :lol

Oh and another reason that game is fun to watch because Jaren Jackson and Reggie Geary were very impressive defenders. Prior to Jackson "expanding" after the '99 championship, people forget how good of a defender he was. He wasn't quite Bowen but that version of Jackson might be the second best perimeter defender in the Duncan era.

And man, Geary was such a stud defender. He could have a been a Bowen level defender -- except about five inches smaller. Too bad he had absolutely no offensive game. None.

Guarding Mark Jackson does ring a bell, timvp.

duncan228
05-21-2009, 09:29 PM
Also during that broadcast (it was an afternoon game on NBC) they had an interview with Pop and he said that he wasn't sure if Duncan's future is as a small forward or a power forward. Pop said that Duncan would actually prefer small forward :lol

Duncan's been trying to get out of position forever. :lol


I am no big man. This is merely where they believe I should play because I am tall. I am really a point guard; I'm just a little bigger than everyone else is.

Biggems
05-21-2009, 10:12 PM
didnt Olajuwon play PF when he first came into the league? I thought Sampson was the Center. However, I was just a kid, so I may be wrong.