Riots At Greek Finals

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Game 1 of Olympiacos and Panathinaikos Greek Championships finals results in another riot. Game was at SEF the home arena of Olympiacos. Injuries and it seems maybe some deaths occur at game inside arena. Is being rumored already finals will be canceled.

[Spursfan092120]

http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/funny-dog-pictures-why-so-serious.jpg

[samikeyp]

and Americans are called uncivilized. :lol

Stay classy Greekball fan! :tu

[DPG21920]

This is very sad and something I will never understand.

[JoeTait75]

No way this guy can be for real. Why would any self-respecting Greek constantly brag on a message board about what a lawless shithole his country is?

[Spursfan092120]

and Americans are called uncivilized. :lol

Stay classy Greekball fan! :tu
lol..made me think of this.

YoKAcVL_phI

[TheProfessor]

Sorry to hear that. How ridiculous to get so upset over a game.

[Spursfan092120]

and Americans are called uncivilized. :lol

Stay classy Greekball fan! :tu
exactly...I hate that shit.

[Indazone]

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb308/killerbienchen90/hooligans.jpg

The bane of the European Sportsworld.

[Bukefal]

And the "Wild crazy Balkans'' continue......

Panathinaikos won and Olympiacos faces punishment because they threw fireworks to the panathinaikos bench.

http://www.sportingreece.com/kb/article.asp?fIndex=3238

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

No way this guy can be for real. Why would any self-respecting Greek constantly brag on a message board about what a lawless shithole his country is?

WTF? Greeks take pride in the rivalries. This is not just about sports. it is about different groups of people in the culture. PAO fans come from the old elite culture of Athens. Olympiacos fans come from the working class immigrants that lived in the shipping area.

It is a war that is still being fought.

[Bukefal]

No way this guy can be for real. Why would any self-respecting Greek constantly brag on a message board about what a lawless shithole his country is?

Well, their olympiacos - panathinaikos rivalry is big, bigger than any americans have ever seen. Same goes for the rest of the Balkans. Ive said it before, this part of europe is wild. And some fans even like it. They are taking it too far. You must understand that here most of the clubs have their die hard fan base coming from organized crime groups, ex commando's (Mostly in Former Yugoslavia) and hooligans.

Its a disgrace, for the sport, for everything...

[samikeyp]

WTF? Greeks take pride in the rivalries. This is not just about sports. it is about different groups of people in the culture. PAO fans come from the old elite culture of Athens. Olympiacos fans come from the working class immigrants that lived in the shipping area.

It is a war that is still being fought.

And that is an excuse to riot?

Yeah, the Greeks may have started civilization but apparently some of them gave it up.

[Spursfan092120]

WTF? Greeks take pride in the rivalries. This is not just about sports. it is about different groups of people in the culture. PAO fans come from the old elite culture of Athens. Olympiacos fans come from the working class immigrants that lived in the shipping area.

It is a war that is still being fought.
This isn't pride..this is idiocy. Spurs/Lakers, Lakers/Celtics, Cowboys/Redskins...those are rivalries also..you don't see riots and deaths at those games. Basically, it sounds to me like a bunch of people who have held a grudge for WAAAY too long.

[Brazil]

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb308/killerbienchen90/hooligans.jpg

The bane of the European Sportsworld.

What European Sportsworld has to do with this movie ?

[Spursfan092120]

And that is an excuse to riot?

Yeah, the Greeks may have started civilization but apparently some of them gave it up.
:tu

[Bukefal]

And that is an excuse to riot?

Yeah, the Greeks may have started civilization but apparently some of them gave it up.

You should also know that the 'Greeks' of today have nothing to do with the Hellenes in ancient times who started civilization. Not ethnically, linguistically nor culturally.

[tso & lo Cavfanatic]

Game 1 of Olympiacos and Panathinaikos Greek Championships finals results in another riot. Game was at SEF the home arena of Olympiacos. Injuries and it seems maybe some deaths occur at game inside arena. Is being rumored already finals will be canceled.
Υou are a fucking liar. i watched the game. There was only one person injured.
Death???Are you fucking serious? noway.
Finals will not be canceled, of course. Propably Olympiacos will play without their supporters in game 3.

[Bukefal]

KBP is probably overreacting a bit. There were clashes in the game between olympiacos fan base and police, and they were throwing fireworks on to the panathinaikos bench. Most likely there will be just some punishment

[tso & lo Cavfanatic]

KBP is probably overreacting a bit. There were clashes in the game between olympiacos fan base and police, and they were throwing fireworks on to the panathinaikos bench. Most likely there will be just some punishment
Exactly...

[JamStone]

Parents of high school athletes are getting completely out of control these days.

[TheProfessor]

Υou are a fucking liar. i watched the game. There was only one person injured.
Death???Are you fucking serious? noway.
Finals will not be canceled, of course. Propably Olympiacos will play without their supporters in game 3.
Sigh. Should have known better.

[Spursfan092120]

Υou are a fucking liar. i watched the game. There was only one person injured.
Death???Are you fucking serious? noway.
Finals will not be canceled, of course. Propably Olympiacos will play without their supporters in game 3.
http://www.garageracing.com/schel/a/funny/owned/mc-owned.jpg

[iilluzioN]

no videos?

[Spursfan092120]

Sigh. Should have known better.
yeah..it is KBP after all...or...Houston Jeff, I should say.

[jag]

WTF? Greeks take pride in the rivalries. This is not just about sports. it is about different groups of people in the culture. PAO fans come from the old elite culture of Athens. Olympiacos fans come from the working class immigrants that lived in the shipping area.

It is a war that is still being fought.

You have got to be one of the biggest virgins on the internets...that's the only way I can rationalize you still acting like you live in Greece.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

You should also know that the 'Greeks' of today have nothing to do with the Hellenes in ancient times who started civilization. Not ethnically, linguistically nor culturally.

Give it up my friend. No matter how many times you explain it they will not understand it. And even the "Greeks" in this forum will argue and lie about it. You and I are the only ones here who have our true knowledge of history it seem.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Υou are a fucking liar. i watched the game. There was only one person injured.
Death???Are you fucking serious? noway.
Finals will not be canceled, of course. Propably Olympiacos will play without their supporters in game 3.

15 minutes after the game riots were still going on. There were fans hanging and falling from the stands when I stopped watching.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

You have got to be one of the biggest virgins on the internets...that's the only way I can rationalize you still acting like you live in Greece.

I have never said I still live in Greece you dumb fuck. I said I am Greek. I never said I still lived there idiot.

[Brazil]

15 minutes after the game riots were still going on. There were fans hanging and falling from the stands when I stopped watching.

So actually you don't know shit

[Bukefal]

Give it up my friend. No matter how many times you explain it they will not understand it. And even the "Greeks" in this forum will argue and lie about it. You and I are the only ones here who have our true knowledge of history it seem.

Nice to see you are agreeing with what I said. But its hard for me to believe, and i doubt that a Greek would ever accept and agrees with what ive just said above :)

I hope you are a good one and really agrees with this, while being a Greek. A honest one! :toast

[Bukefal]

I have never said I still live in Greece you dumb fuck. I said I am Greek. I never said I still lived there idiot.

Where do you live btw? Just curious :toast

[jag]

I have never said I still live in Greece you dumb fuck. I said I am Greek. I never said I still lived there idiot.
Youre a virgin... aren't you?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Nice to see you are agreeing with what I said. But its hard for me to believe, and i doubt that a Greek would ever accept and agrees with what ive just said above :)

I hope you are a good one and really agrees with this, while being a Greek. A honest one! :toast

What? How many times I have to fucking explain it to you I have blond hair and blue eyes. My family line is right from Alexander actually.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Where do you live btw? Just curious :toast

I moved to Panama.

[redzero]

Is it me, or are Europeans more interested in killing each other than actually watching the games they go to?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Youre a virgin... aren't you?

No. Are you gay? Are you trying to proposition me? Are you hoping to purchase my virginity in Ebay? Are you wanting to find me in Craig's list in your local area? Perhaps you should watch the catch a predator show?

[Indazone]

:lmao @ the turn this thread has taken

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Is it me, or are Europeans more interested in killing each other than actually watching the games they go to?

It is mainly the hooligans.Most of fans go to Olympiacos games at SEF are from the political parties.

[Bukefal]

What? How many times I have to fucking explain it to you I have blond hair and blue eyes. My family line is right from Alexander actually.

Cool, welcome fellow Macedonian :toast

How did you end up in Panama? Have you seen yesterdays game? Argentina - Panama ?

[TheProfessor]

I moved to Panama.
:lol

[fevertrees]

Why should we care about what happens in a game that doesn't hold more people in the stands than a high school gym?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Cool, welcome fellow Macedonian :toast

How did you end up in Panama? Have you seen yesterdays game? Argentina - Panama ?

My cousin bought island there.

[Spursfan092120]

I have never said I still live in Greece you dumb fuck. I said I am Greek. I never said I still lived there idiot.
You DAMN SURE DID!! I still remember a post when you tried to tell everyone where you were living...LOL...you are such a liar.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Why should we care about what happens in a game that doesn't hold more people in the stands than a high school gym?

It holds 15,000 people moron.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cb/Olympiacos_Euroleague_SEF2009.JPG

[Spursfan092120]

No. Are you gay? Are you trying to proposition me? Are you hoping to purchase my virginity in Ebay? Are you wanting to find me in Craig's list in your local area? Perhaps you should watch the catch a predator show?
I love it when KBP gets pissed off...he all of a sudden knows how to write properly when it comes to english grammar. LOL..hilarious.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I love it when KBP gets pissed off...he all of a sudden knows how to write properly when it comes to english grammar. LOL..hilarious.

My English is excellent. You fools. My English is better than most "Americans" here.

[DPG21920]

To answer all the questions in here:

No, No, Yes, Maybe, No, No, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Maybe, 10 inches.

[TheProfessor]

My cousin bought island there.
Do you fly out to the helipad, or do you just take the yacht?

[TimDunkem]

The name Peace and Friendship Stadium is a little ironic.

[fevertrees]

It holds 15,000 people moron.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cb/Olympiacos_Euroleague_SEF2009.JPG

15,000? :rollin If that is the best arena you have then no wonder why you follow the NBA :lmao

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

You DAMN SURE DID!! I still remember a post when you tried to tell everyone where you were living...LOL...you are such a liar.

LIAR

I said I was Greek. I did not say I live in Greece now.

[Bukefal]

The name Peace and Friendship Stadium is a little ironic.

lolll :lmao ive never thought about that before :lmao so true

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Do you fly out to the helipad, or do you just take the yacht?

You sound foolish. Real estate is not so expensive in Latin America.

[jag]

No. Are you gay? Are you trying to proposition me? Are you hoping to purchase my virginity in Ebay? Are you wanting to find me in Craig's list in your local area? Perhaps you should watch the catch a predator show?

They have comcast in Panama?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

15,000? :rollin If that is the best arena you have then no wonder why you follow the NBA :lmao

Actually they just put more seats a few weeks ago so I guess it is like 16,000. And no it is not "best arena". Their is 2 other arenas that are better. Also there is a 3rd one being built that will be better. You fucking arrogant ugly American asshole.

[jag]

They have comcast in Panama?

No, but they do in Houston.

[fevertrees]

Why are you trying to push middle school basketball games on this board? We already have to deal with the WWE influenced NBA

[BRHornet45]

http://i41.tinypic.com/25k4jgk.jpg

[timvp]

I moved to Panama.

According to the IP address of this post, you have moved to Mountain Home, Arkansas.

Where the hell is that?

[Summers]

To answer all the questions in here:

No, No, Yes, Maybe, No, No, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Maybe, 10 inches.

How you doin'?

[jag]

According to the IP address of this post, you have moved to Mountain Home, Arkansas.

Where the hell is that?

:lmao this thread delivers

[Spursfan092120]

According to the IP address of this post, you have moved to Mountain Home, Arkansas.

Where the hell is that?
http://pics2.city-data.com/city/maps/fr3314.png

http://pics4.city-data.com/cpicv/vfiles4745.jpg

[BRHornet45]

according to the ip address of this post, you have moved to mountain home, arkansas.

Where the hell is that?

pwned

[samikeyp]

According to the IP address of this post, you have moved to Mountain Home, Arkansas.

Where the hell is that?

Game, set and match, again, timvp. :toast

[Spursfan092120]

AAAAAAND KBP isn't even viewing the thread anymore..lol

[benefactor]

http://pics2.city-data.com/city/maps/fr3314.png

http://pics4.city-data.com/cpicv/vfiles4745.jpg
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Complete ownage.

[Bob Lanier]

This isn't pride..this is idiocy. Spurs/Lakers, Lakers/Celtics, Cowboys/Redskins...those are rivalries also..you don't see riots and deaths at those games. Basically, it sounds to me like a bunch of people who have held a grudge for WAAAY too long.
No, they are not.

[Bob Lanier]

http://pics4.city-data.com/cpicv/vfiles4745.jpgWhat a beautiful day for an overflight.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

According to the IP address of this post, you have moved to Mountain Home, Arkansas.

Where the hell is that?

Masking software. I also have them for China even.

[jag]

You have got to be one of the biggest virgins on the internets...that's the only way I can rationalize you still acting like you live in Panama.

Fixed.

[DPG21920]

How you doin'?

I have a beautiful girlfriend :lobt2:

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Fixed.

WTF? I am so sick of this treatment. FUCK YOU ASSHOLES.

[timvp]

Masking software. I also have them for China even.

The IP of this post is masked. The other one wasn't . . .

Post once from "Panama" with your masking software turned off to prove it.

Thanks :tu

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

The IP of this post is masked. The other one wasn't . . .

Post once from "Panama" with your masking software turned off to prove it.

Thanks :tu

Wrong. Proxy server is not a masker.I request location of EVERY member of the forum to be posted or I will refuse to do this.

[DPG21920]

I would find it awesomely hilarious if KBP owns everyone by posting from Panama to shut everyone up.

[Summers]

WTF? I am so sick of this treatment. FUCK YOU ASSHOLES.

Please, please take your marbles and go home.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I would find it awesomely hilarious if KBP owns everyone by posting from Panama to shut everyone up.

I already posted before from France and it did nothing. I have got even more abuse since then.

[jag]

He's in too deep...he can't stop fighting now. Go out with a bang KBP...post some hardcore pron and take the ban hammer. Come back with a bigger and better schtick.

[Spursfan092120]

WTF? I am so sick of this treatment. FUCK YOU ASSHOLES.
Don't like it????

http://www.forumammo.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10063/gtfo~4.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Please, please take your marbles and go home.

You pretend to be nice but you are much like many others here.

[Spursfan092120]

WTF? I am so sick of this treatment. FUCK YOU ASSHOLES.
Don't like it????

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DVmkqk7uYeM/SXI6zVcdnrI/AAAAAAAAASY/7gh9vtdsOY0/s320/gtfo3cr.jpg
http://www.forumammo.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10063/gtfo%7E4

[Spursfan092120]

You pretend to be nice but you are much like many others here.
Yes..exactly..she is intelligent...like many others here...just unfortunately not you.

[timvp]

Wrong. Proxy server is not a masker.I request location of EVERY member of the forum to be posted or I will refuse to do this.

Who do you want to know? I'll trade you five people of your choice for one unmasked post.

Deal?

[DPG21920]

I already posted before from France and it did nothing. I have got even more abuse since then.

I am on your side. If you could just do it one more time. Are you currently in Panama or are you on vacation?

[Spursfan092120]

Who do you want to know? I'll trade you five people of your choice for one unmasked post.

Deal?
I OFFER my location...I'm from New Braunfels, TX

[mavs>spurs2]

I wonder where mine says. These things aren't always accurate, I'm guessing it says Fort Worth

[Bukefal]

http://pics2.city-data.com/city/maps/fr3314.png

http://pics4.city-data.com/cpicv/vfiles4745.jpg

:lmao

[samikeyp]

I OFFER my location...I'm from New Braunfels, TX

Lansing, MI here. :toast

[benefactor]

Tyler, TX...you can verify if you want. That is three by my count.

[Mel_13]

Unmasked in San Antonio

[BlackSwordsMan]

Leave kill bill alone
you bastards he's a human fucking being

[timvp]

Leave kill bill alone
you bastards he's a human fucking being

San Marcos.

[BlackSwordsMan]

who's in san marcos/

[braeden0613]

Unmasked in North San Antonio, past 1604...that's pretty specific...do i count for two people? My guess is KBP is from somewhere in Texas

[Bukefal]

I guess my ip says Utrecht. But it is Groningen, Netherlands :toast

[jag]

Leave kill bill alone
you bastards he's a human fucking being
:lmao

I volunteer my IP location....

And btw....DPG you're an emo retard if you believe him.

[Kori Ellis]

So can I change this thread title? There were no deaths, correct?

[DPG21920]

:lmao

I volunteer my IP location....

And btw....DPG you're an emo retard if you believe him.

By the way, you are not the brightest bulb if you cannot see what I am doing.

[duncan228]

Panathinaikos wins Greek finals opener amid riot (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-greekfinals-riots&prov=ap&type=lgns)
By Demetris Nellas

Panathinaikos beat archrival Olympiakos 69-67 in the opening game of the Greek League finals on Thursday, with riot police called to control fans inside and outside the arena.

Former Atlanta Hawks swingman Josh Childress had 23 points for Olympiakos, the home team.

“The violence we saw today, will make me think real hard over my future in Europe,” said Childress, who signed a 3-year deal worth $20 million with Olympiakos in July.

The game was interrupted for nearly 20 minutes with 1:25 to play and Panathinaikos leading 60-58.

Olympiakos fans threw a flare, plastic bottles and other items at Panathinaikos’ bench during a timeout, sending the players scampering for safety. A timekeeper was slightly injured and part of the bench and the surrounding court had severe burn marks.

Enraged fans were trying to storm the court and would not listen to the pleas of Olympiakos players for calm. Riot police moved in to contain the supporters. About 200 fans clashed with police after the game and even tried to storm the locker rooms and interview room where the coaches were meeting with the media.

Olympiakos guard Theodoros Papaloukas missed a layup at the buzzer that would have tied the game.

“This did not help the team at all … the moment you play and you have found a rhythm, you cannot stop because (of the violence) in the stands,” Childress said.

The second game in the best-of-five series will be at Panathinaikos’ home court on Monday.

[urunobili]

I dont understand why in an NBA forum this needed a thread... last week two kids 15 and 17 respectively got shot to death on a basketball match here in Uruguay and i didn't need to start a thread... if there was a Eurolegue forum then its different... :wakeup

[Bukefal]

So can I change this thread title? There were no deaths, correct?

Correct :)

[Bukefal]

I dont understand why in an NBA forum this needed a thread... last week two kids 15 and 17 respectively got shot to death on a basketball match here in Uruguay and i didn't need to start a thread... if there was a Eurolegue forum then its different... :wakeup

Well below the nba forum header, it says this is the right forum for european basketball also.

[Bukefal]

This rioting and vandalism goes to far.

[anakha]

So do we have 5 IPs already?

[GioSugar]

You should also know that the 'Greeks' of today have nothing to do with the Hellenes in ancient times who started civilization. Not ethnically, linguistically nor culturally.

Is that a racist or what? Once again .... I am out of here


What? How many times I have to fucking explain it to you I have blond hair and blue eyes. My family line is right from Alexander actually.

Yep and i am right from Leonidas, or did i have to say Socrates. But no
Racist just go hand by hand...
Great Alexander from Houston and his beloved friend

[Bukefal]

Is that a racist or what? Once again .... I am out of here

Racist?! Why? Are you saying it is not true what I was saying? Are you saying that todays greeks are the same as ancient hellenes?!

Nothing racist about that :toast

[GioSugar]

Racist?! Why? Are you saying it is not true what I was saying? Are you saying that todays greeks are the same as ancient hellenes?!

Nothing racist about that :toast

Yeh and the real Hellenes are Macedonians..
You can't stop the propaganda even in a basket forum

Bye bye

Bs.Somebody, delete my account pls. Thanks

[Bukefal]

Yeh and the real Hellenes are Macedonians..
You can't stop the propaganda even in a basket forum

Bye bye

Bs.Somebody, delete my account pls. Thanks

No, since Hellenes never were Macedonians, nor were Macedonians hellenes. Why do you bring Macedonians up? Were talking about today greeks and ancient hellenes, not about Macedonians.

Second, this has nothing to do with propaganda. Someone was saying that greeks descend from hellenes, so i just answered. Isnt it a bit propaganda to think that today greeks are descendants of the ancient hellenes? Isnt it a well known fact that todays greeks do not have anything to do with ancient hellenes?? I regret you see that as racism, but it is not. And i regret you are leaving because of this. But well.

[Bukefal]

But what I do love in Balkan basketball clubs and what I miss in the NBA is that the whole crowd is yelling in harmony together, the whole stadium is lifted. A choir of everyone shouting the same yell. That is cool.

While in the NBA, the only thing that is shouted is; "Defence, Defence" and "Go ....(team name).... Go!" :lol

Look at this, gives you goosebumps even while watching, lets not even talk about when actually being there:

SIgBj73AQQA

Hi7iTy6zn-o

u0rMe2Vyb9E

GUOfZxXKYhI

[samikeyp]

No, since Hellenes never were Macedonians, nor were Macedonians hellenes. Why do you bring Macedonians up? Were talking about today greeks and ancient hellenes, not about Macedonians.

Second, this has nothing to do with propaganda. Someone was saying that greeks descend from hellenes, so i just answered. Isnt it a bit propaganda to think that today greeks are descendants of the ancient hellenes? Isnt it a well known fact that todays greeks do not have anything to do with ancient hellenes?? I regret you see that as racism, but it is not. And i regret you are leaving because of this. But well.

Actually no, its not a well known fact at least not on this side of the world. Maybe it is where you are from but that doesn't mean it is everywhere. I wasn't engaging in propaganda, nor did I say "Today's Greeks are all decended from Ancient Greeks" I made a comment about how members of two Greek fanbases were acting like dumbasses. I will ask this though....why is it so far fetched to think that some Greeks today may be decended from Ancient Greeks?

[samikeyp]

But what I do love in Balkan basketball clubs and what I miss in the NBA is that the whole crowd is yelling in harmony together, the whole stadium is lifted. A choir of everyone shouting the same yell. That is cool.

While in the NBA, the only thing that is shouted is; "Defence, Defence" and "Go ....(team name).... Go!" :lol

Look at this, gives you goosebumps even while watching, lets not even talk about when actually being there:



You have never been in the upper deck at a Spurs game when they are losing. I guarantee you many more things are shouted! :lol

[Bukefal]

Actually no, its not a well known fact at least not on this side of the world. Maybe it is where you are from. I wasn't engaging in propaganda, nor did I say "Today's Greeks are all decended from Ancient Greeks" I made a comment about how members of two Greek fanbases were acting like dumbasses. I will ask this though....why is it so far fetched to think that some Greeks today may be decended from Ancient Greeks?

Dont get me wrong samikeyp, i wasnt saying that in a context to attack you or your words or something. i know how you meant it. I just added to that, with the word, 'actually' that those people have nothing to do with eachother.

Its not far fetched, many think that, there is no problem with that, i was just saying otherwise. But its not true, Greeks themselves know that, scientists, historians.

Modern Greeks today consider themselves to be the inheritors of the ancient Greek and Byzantine civilizations and cultures. Historically, the self-perception of the Greeks and the definition of Greekness have varied, but with the emergence and consolidation of the nation-state, from the late 18th century, Greekness was redefined along the lines of what some people call romantic nationalism.

Modern Greece is made up of Slav Speakers, Albanians, Vlachs, Turks, Christian Turks, Roma, etc.

Every nation is mixed, especially modern greeks. I was just explaining it. nothing else. nothing to do with racism. it was just a side note.

[Bukefal]

You have never been in the upper deck at a Spurs game when they are losing. I guarantee you many more things are shouted! :lol

yeahh, i was being a bit sarcastic. :lol but the atmosphere is not like these balkan games right?

[samikeyp]

yeahh, i was being a bit sarcastic. :lol but the atmosphere is not like these balkan games right?

Probably not, the only thing that are thrown are insults. :lol

[GioSugar]

No, since Hellenes never were Macedonians, nor were Macedonians hellenes. Why do you bring Macedonians up? Were talking about today greeks and ancient hellenes, not about Macedonians.

Second, this has nothing to do with propaganda. Someone was saying that greeks descend from hellenes, so i just answered. Isnt it a bit propaganda to think that today greeks are descendants of the ancient hellenes? Isnt it a well known fact that todays greeks do not have anything to do with ancient hellenes?? I regret you see that as racism, but it is not. And i regret you are leaving because of this. But well.

My country name is Ellada andx i am Hellinas. See the jersey of the national team....
That is a straight attack to Greece and Greek people. You came out here with your fake Greek friend to call us not Hellenes. This is ridiculous the next step is to attack to Boulgarians. I can't understand how a spurs forum allow such a propaganda against Greece and the repeatedly bad reputation of the KBP who have nothing to do with a real Greek.

[Brazil]

WTF is an IP adress ? you geeks

[Bukefal]

My country name is Ellada andx i am Hellinas. See the jersey of the national team....
That is a straight attack to Greece and Greek people. You came out here with your fake Greek friend to call us not Hellenes. This is ridiculous the next step is to attack to Boulgarians. I can't understand how a spurs forum allow such a propaganda against Greece and the repeatedly bad reputation of the KBP who have nothing to do with a real Greek.

Stop linking KBP with me, i dont even know the guy. Its no attack to greece and greeks my friend. I dont know why you see this as racism ? You are a greek from greece, theres nothing wrong with that, and im not denying that either. So whats here the racism?

I just said that Today Greek population are different than the Ancient Greek/hellene population who lived thousands of years ago. Whats racist about that?!

Its plain logic, since its not possible for a nation today to be 100% homogeneous, which Greeks are claiming.

you should calm done file

[GioSugar]

Dont get me wrong samikeyp, i wasnt saying that in a context to attack you or your words or something. i know how you meant it. I just added to that, with the word, 'actually' that those people have nothing to do with eachother.

Its not far fetched, many think that, there is no problem with that, i was just saying otherwise. But its not true, Greeks themselves know that, scientists, historians.

Modern Greeks today consider themselves to be the inheritors of the ancient Greek and Byzantine civilizations and cultures. Historically, the self-perception of the Greeks and the definition of Greekness have varied, but with the emergence and consolidation of the nation-state, from the late 18th century, Greekness was redefined along the lines of what some people call romantic nationalism.

Modern Greece is made up of Slav Speakers, Albanians, Vlachs, Turks, Christian Turks, Roma, etc.

Every nation is mixed, especially modern greeks. I was just explaining it. nothing else. nothing to do with racism. it was just a side note.

You keep it going, if you want it come to get it. And take with you your fake Greek. The whole world knows that you came out of nowhere and your little country macedonia want to make problems to Greece and Bulgaria. You can't just attack to a country like that.Come and get it blond hair , blue eyes nazist

[GioSugar]

Stop linking KBP with me, i dont even know the guy. Its no attack to greece and greeks my friend. I dont know why you see this as racism ? You are a greek from greece, theres nothing wrong with that, and im not denying that either. So whats here the racism?

I just said that Today Greek population are different than the Ancient Greek/hellene population who lived thousands of years ago. Whats racist about that?!

Its plain logic, since its not possible for a nation today to be 100% homogeneous, which Greeks are claiming.

you should calm done file

Nope i am an Hellinas from Hellas

[Bukefal]

You keep it going, if you want it come to get it. And take with you your fake Greek. The whole world knows that you came out of nowhere and your little country macedonia want to make problems to Greece and Bulgaria. You can't just attack to a country like that.Come and get it blond hair , blue eyes nazist

Ok, now youve turned it around. Instead of coming with arguments on my post, you start insulting. Which i did not do to you in the first place. Nice way to go.

gia mas file.

p.s.: We dont make problems, instead Greece has problem with albania, bulgaria, turkey, macedonia and even with the lesbian community. :lol

[Bukefal]

Nope i am an Hellinas from Hellas

Yes you are. But you do not have anything to do with ancient hellines from Athina, sparta or thessalia

[GioSugar]

why is it so far fetched to think that some Greeks today may be decended from Ancient Greeks?

Because those dudes call himselfes Macedonians wants to prove that Alexander is a his father and they want to take a big part of Greece called Makedonia and another one from Bulgaria. Ask a Bulgarian to tell you the truth.

[Bukefal]

Because those dudes call himselfes Macedonians wants to prove that Alexander is a his father and they want to take a big part of Greece called Makedonia and another one from Bulgaria. Ask a Bulgarian to tell you the truth.

Ok, how then can you deny that you occupied that part in 1912? explain that.

[Bukefal]

it doesnt make sense going in discussion with you. You cannot even get my point in the first place and you are not able to come with the most simple arguments. instead you increase the image we here on ST already have of Greeks, by insulting and calling me a nazi :)

Its a shame, for a moment i thought you were cool, guess you are not.

Gia mas

[GioSugar]

Ok, now youve turned it around. Instead of coming with arguments on my post, you start insulting. Which i did not do to you in the first place. Nice way to go.

gia mas file.

p.s.: We dont make problems, instead Greece has problem with albania, bulgaria, turkey, macedonia and even with the lesbian community. :lol

Insult is your first post and the irony with KBP tabout Alexander . And yes you have problems just call a Bulgarian to prove me truth. No even say Albanian and other country. You are just a nazist and you have no right to talk about my country.

[Bukefal]

Probably not, the only thing that are thrown are insults. :lol

:lol

[GioSugar]

Ok, how then can you deny that you occupied that part in 1912? explain that.

That 's your real face. Nazist. Now you prove what you and your country wants. Come and get it

[Bukefal]

Insult is your first post and the irony with KBP tabout Alexander . And yes you have problems just call a Bulgarian to prove me truth. No even say Albanian and other country. You are just a nazist and you have no right to talk about my country.

Is it an insult to say that modern greeks have nothing to do with ancient greeks ? :lol maybe truth hurts, i dont know. but its definitelly not insulting nor racist. As i said, its impossible for a nation to be completely homogeneous.

it doesnt make sense going in discussion with you. You cannot even get my point in the first place and you are not able to come with the most simple arguments. instead you increase the image we here on ST already have of Greeks, by insulting and calling me a nazi

Its a shame, for a moment i thought you were cool, guess you are not.

Gia mas

[Bukefal]

That 's your real face. Nazist. Now you prove what you and your country wants. Come and get it

lol at you making stuff up. We dont want anything. I dont want anything.

As far as the name issue, we just want to be called by our name and not to have our history stolen.

[Bukefal]

Can someone pink this guy for insulting and being racist?

[GioSugar]

lol at you making stuff up. We dont want anything. I dont want anything.

As far as the name issue, we just want to be called by our name and not to have our history stolen.

You try just to stole another country name and history.

[Bukefal]

You try just to stole another country name and history.

yup :downspin: :sleep

[manufan10]

This thread went from being entertaining to lame.

[Bukefal]

I agree manufan. I should have said nothing at all. Even though that what ive said was nothing racist, insulting or hatred. But well. I should have known better. People have issues, especially some Greeks.

[GioSugar]

I am sorry about you Bukefal. You could be the horse of the Great Alexander the Greek, but you never be an Hellinas. Really sorry

[Bukefal]

I am sorry about you Bukefal. You could be the horse of the Great Alexander the Greek, but you never be an Hellinas. Really sorry

:lol:lol:lol What makes you think that i want to be hellinas? or that i am a philhellen? lollllllll

No thanks, im a proud Macedonian, just like my king, Alexander of Macedon, whom the Ancient Ellines called a Barbarian. :toast

[Spursfan092120]

:lol:lol:lol What makes you think that i want to be hellinas? or that i am a philhellen? lollllllll

No thanks, im a proud Macedonian, just like my king, Alexander of Macedon, whom the Ancient Ellines called a Barbarian. :toast
MACEDONIA RULES!. :)
Actually I just think Bukefal is cooler than you guys. :)

[Brazil]

^^There is a political forum so use it and gfto

[Spursfan092120]

^^There is a political forum so use it and gfto
Me?

[jag]

This thread had such great potential...it went from a KBP hate thread to a worthless which type of Greek is better thread.

KBP you're a lonely virgin.

[Mel_13]

riot video here:

http://www.ballineurope.com/us-basketball/nba/cabezas-the-savior-and-childress-homesick/

[GioSugar]

:lol:lol:lol What makes you think that i want to be hellinas? or that i am a philhellen? lollllllll

No thanks, im a proud Macedonian, just like my king, Alexander of Macedon, whom the Ancient Ellines called a Barbarian. :toast

Poor boy,

First you use the name of a horse as a nickname, second you believe that you have king( is it lebron?)then again you believe that greek and hellenes is a different thing.
Get your meds , go for a nap, and come tomorrow to sell that you are the Asterix the Galatian or Julius Ceasar, or Cleopatra, or Napoleon , or El Sid.
You need some medical treatment but you could be ok. You couldr try also X-Men , Star trek , Xerxes , Han the great Mogolian, Jeune d'ark, Arturos.
I know it's difficult to live in a country just 30 year old , I am older than your country but the meds will help you , alternative try a psycologist.

:king :bking :downspin:Dream on my poor boy

[Bukefal]

:sleep

[Bukefal]

You have never been in the upper deck at a Spurs game when they are losing. I guarantee you many more things are shouted! :lol

Anyway, here another vid of European fan atmosphere:

oA_RelSs6QU

:wow

[duncan228]

Childress says his future not based on fan riots (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-greekfinals-childress&prov=ap&type=lgns)
By Brett Martel

Former Atlanta Hawks swingman Josh Childress asserted on Friday that violence he witnessed in the stands while playing in Greece’s top professional league won’t influence his decision on whether to stay in Europe for another season.

“The fans are obviously very passionate because we’re in the finals of the Greek championship,” Childress, in Athens, said by phone to The Associated Press. “Yes, there was unnecessary violence. It obviously doesn’t help the game. It doesn’t help the players, but that will not have an effect on my decision about where I play next year.”

On Thursday night, the opening game of the Greek finals was interrupted for nearly 20 minutes with 1:25 to play and Panathinaikos, the visiting team, leading 60-58.

Olympiakos fans threw a flare, plastic bottles and other items at Panathinaikos’ bench during a timeout, sending the players scampering for safety. A timekeeper was slightly injured and part of the bench and the surrounding court had burn marks.

Enraged fans tried to storm the court despite pleas for calm by Olympiakos players. Riot police moved in to contain the spectators.

Childress spoke out against fan violence after the contest, saying “The violence we saw today, will make me think real hard over my future in Europe.” On Friday, he amended those statements, saying he believed some of his comments were misinterpreted in a way that made it appear he wished to leave Greece after this season.

“I’m enjoying my time here. It’s been a great experience. It’s been a learning experience, and I think a lot of things will shake out in the next few weeks as we finish up the season here,” Childress said.

Last July, the Greek club Olympiakos signed Childress to a three-year contract that his agent, Jim Tanner, said was worth $20 million after taxes.

Childress has the option to opt out of the deal after each season. If he returned to the NBA, the Hawks, who lost to Cleveland in the second round of this season’s playoffs, would still have the rights to him as a restricted free agent.

Childress said he followed the Hawks this season, watching games when he could, and communicated with fans on the Internet.

“I’ve gotten some great fan support from the Atlanta fans, via the Web sites,” Childress said.

However, Childress said he has yet to get a sense from general manager Rick Sund about whether the Hawks intend to try to woo him back next season.

“I haven’t spoken to him at all, really. That’s something I’m sure he’ll get with my agent about in the next few weeks,” Childress said. “I don’t know what they’re thinking.”

[Spursfan092120]

I saw though that Childress was getting really homesick.

[Biggems]

I wouldnt wipe my ass with a dirty Greek.....Greeks arent worth shitting on, much less rioting over.

Hey KBP, you are such a liar, the don't even have internet in Panama, I know because I asked Carl Herrera........all they have are plantains, heat, and a man-made canal.

[Bukefal]

I saw though that Childress was getting really homesick.

yeah, I do think he will get back to the NBA soon.

[GioSugar]

Childress about all those articles

http://www.superbasket.gr/?c=136&a=113345

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.superbasket.gr%2F%3Fc%3D136 %26a%3D113345&lp=el_en&btnTrUrl=Translate

And on his twitter
http://twitter.com/JChillin
Not sure where this rumor and these quotes on si.com and espn.com came from. I never said any of that stuff!

[KidCongo]

I know a greek guy.

All he does is laugh and say 3 words, yes, bullshit and what.

[GioSugar]

Your friend has absolutely right. All those noise around Childress are media games. There are many factors for Childress and Olympiakos that are critical to continue their relationship. Violence is not one of those.

[Hemotivo]

... or El Sid. ...

El Cid