View Full Version : This series will hinge on Derek Fisher...
DrHouse
05-22-2009, 12:03 AM
Mark my words. If he gets 28mpg for the rest of the series the Lakers will lose.
The only way the Lakers win is if Phil finally realizes that the Farmar/Brown backcourt is what is going to win games for him.
Banzai
05-22-2009, 12:04 AM
Mark my words. If he gets 28mpg for the rest of the series the Lakers will lose.
The only way the Lakers win is if Phil finally realizes that the Farmar/Brown backcourt is what is going to win games for him.
If Phil hasn't realized this so far..he won't change anything. Get use to D-Fish playing crucial minutes in a game even when he isn't producing.
DrHouse
05-22-2009, 12:05 AM
I can't think of another team left in the playoffs that has to overcome their own coach the way the Lakers do.
Banzai
05-22-2009, 12:06 AM
Derek Fisher will ALWAYS start and ALWAYS get more minutes even when he is 1-9
ElNono
05-22-2009, 12:07 AM
Just for the record... its YOU that create all these fluky ass threads...
ducks
05-22-2009, 12:07 AM
nuggets overcome karl
the only way they do is because chauncy is actually influencing karl alot
JamStone
05-22-2009, 12:10 AM
Very true about Karl. He doesn't even really have set plays on offense. Before Chauncey, he'd basically just say improvise on offense. That one Chauncey article written a few weeks ago had a perfect example where in one of Chauncey's first games with the Nuggets they had a one point lead and the ball out of bounds with a few seconds left and Karl just told the players to wing it. Chauncey called a timeout and had to urge Karl to draw up an out of bounds play.
Also, the Magic do have the "Master of Panic." SVG completely loses his mind in the fourth quarter of close games.
YellowFever
05-22-2009, 12:13 AM
Very true about Karl. He doesn't even really have set plays on offense. Before Chauncey, he'd basically just say improvise on offense. That one Chauncey article written a few weeks ago had a perfect example where in one of Chauncey's first games with the Nuggets they had a one point lead and the ball out of bounds with a few seconds left and Karl just told the players to wing it. Chauncey called a timeout and had to urge Karl to draw up an out of bounds play.
Also, the Magic do have the "Master of Panic." SVG completely loses his mind in the fourth quarter of close games.
This will never happen with PJ and the Lakers.
You get outscored 15 to 0 and PJ will look bored on the bench.
you do somerething he thinks is bad, never mind you get a three point play out of it, he will call a timeout just to let you know it.
timvp
05-22-2009, 12:13 AM
If the Spurs were facing the Lakers, Derek Fisher would be shooting about 99.4% from the field. He'd have made all his shots but the basketball gods would lower it to 99.4% just for the irony.
YellowFever
05-22-2009, 12:14 AM
^LOL^
Relax...that Fisher died last year somewhere in the second round.
You will never see that fish again.
ElNono
05-22-2009, 12:15 AM
If the Spurs were facing the Lakers, Derek Fisher would be shooting about 99.4% from the field. He'd have made all his shots but the basketball gods would lower it to 99.4% just for the irony.
Or he would suck throughout the entire game, but make that trey that wins the game with 3 seconds to go. :depressed
ducks
05-22-2009, 12:15 AM
Very true about Karl. He doesn't even really have set plays on offense. Before Chauncey, he'd basically just say improvise on offense. That one Chauncey article written a few weeks ago had a perfect example where in one of Chauncey's first games with the Nuggets they had a one point lead and the ball out of bounds with a few seconds left and Karl just told the players to wing it. Chauncey called a timeout and had to urge Karl to draw up an out of bounds play.
Also, the Magic do have the "Master of Panic." SVG completely loses his mind in the fourth quarter of close games.
humm I wonder if chauncy wanted karl gone he would be fired this offseason...
NewJerSpur
05-22-2009, 12:17 AM
Very true about Karl. He doesn't even really have set plays on offense. Before Chauncey, he'd basically just say improvise on offense. That one Chauncey article written a few weeks ago had a perfect example where in one of Chauncey's first games with the Nuggets they had a one point lead and the ball out of bounds with a few seconds left and Karl just told the players to wing it. Chauncey called a timeout and had to urge Karl to draw up an out of bounds play.
Also, the Magic do have the "Master of Panic." SVG completely loses his mind in the fourth quarter of close games.
-LOL @ the Karl story....terrible.
-SVG didn't panic last night. :hat
NewJerSpur
05-22-2009, 12:18 AM
Or he would suck throughout the entire game, but make that trey that wins the game with .4 seconds to go. :depressed
Fixed. :depressed
iggypop123
05-22-2009, 12:19 AM
look at it this way. fisher cant get worse than tonight. he hit rock bottom early
timvp
05-22-2009, 12:19 AM
^LOL^
Relax...that Fisher died last year somewhere in the second round.
You will never see that fish again.That's what Laker Fan told me in 2000.
iggypop123
05-22-2009, 12:25 AM
Spurs get the shaft from shitty players all the time. This season..Howard.. past, Fisher.. WTF!
it happens to us too. tonight kleiza. a couple years ago troy hudson.
SenorSpur
05-22-2009, 12:33 AM
If this series does hinge on Derek Fisher, your team is in BIG trouble.
jmanu20
05-22-2009, 12:48 AM
Very true about Karl. He doesn't even really have set plays on offense. Before Chauncey, he'd basically just say improvise on offense. That one Chauncey article written a few weeks ago had a perfect example where in one of Chauncey's first games with the Nuggets they had a one point lead and the ball out of bounds with a few seconds left and Karl just told the players to wing it. Chauncey called a timeout and had to urge Karl to draw up an out of bounds play.
Also, the Magic do have the "Master of Panic." SVG completely loses his mind in the fourth quarter of close games.
LOL, this supposed "Master of Panic" has held it together enough to eliminate the defending champions AND steal game 1 on the previously undefeated in the playoffs Cavs' home floor...
DrHouse
05-22-2009, 12:51 AM
If this series does hinge on Derek Fisher, your team is in BIG trouble.
Hence why it hinges on him.
As someone who has watched him all season he simply isn't playing at the level he was last year. Everything in him has diminished and it has come to the point where he is legitimately hurting the team every minute he is out there on the floor.
We'd be much better served with Farmar/Brown taking up all the minutes. The sad thing is Phil Jackson would rather lose than do that.
lakers shouldn't have traded radmanovic, their only capable 3pt shooter other than fisher. now that fisher is going through one of his cold streaks, lakers have no one else to turn to for 3s.
NewJerSpur
05-22-2009, 12:59 AM
Farmar may have no futue in L.A., but that Brown kid is a keeper :tu. Wasn't he a throw in?
NewJerSpur
05-22-2009, 01:00 AM
lakers shouldn't have traded radmanovic, their only capable 3pt shooter other than fisher. now that fisher is going through one of his cold streaks, lakers have no one else to turn to for 3s.
I said the same thing earlier in the season, but Laker fans thought I was crazy.
DrHouse
05-22-2009, 01:10 AM
Radman would cough it all back up with his lousy D and TO's. I'll take Ariza over him any day of the week.
NewJerSpur
05-22-2009, 01:15 AM
Radman would cough it all back up with his lousy D and TO's. I'll take Ariza over him any day of the week.
If the rest of the team gives up on "D", does it matter? The team needs scoring when Kobe's on the bench and better spacing when he's on the floor which RadVlad would provide.
SenorSpur
05-22-2009, 01:51 AM
Hence why it hinges on him.
As someone who has watched him all season he simply isn't playing at the level he was last year. Everything in him has diminished and it has come to the point where he is legitimately hurting the team every minute he is out there on the floor.
We'd be much better served with Farmar/Brown taking up all the minutes. The sad thing is Phil Jackson would rather lose than do that.
I noticed that he looks a step or two slower and has trouble keeping guys in front of him. That's what happens when players get older. Believe me, I know and have seen my share of them with the Spurs.
What's more curious to me is why PJ will not give more minutes to Farmer/Brown combo.
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