Magic @ Cavs Game 2 Thread

[crc21209]

Gotta give LeBron some props...that shit was contested as hell.

[Pistons < Spurs]

Well done.



But FUCK YOU LEBRON.

[Lars]

man wtf, the thrown ball should of been a technical!

[Texas_Ranger]

Fuck the Cavs!

[Budkin]

Shit... spoke too soon...

[SpursPreacher]

what a shot

[Spursfan092120]

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/49/dawson_crying.gif

[iggypop123]

looks like the dream matchup is still on

[DrHouse]

Incredible shot by Lebron.

But I've seen enough. The Magic are a better team and they will steam roll the Cavs in Orlando.

[NewJerSpur]

Terrbile defense. Good win by the Cavs....it's a series again.

[tso & lo Cavfanatic]

Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
He is the kinggggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He fucks you all bithches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pistons < Spurs]

Ok ... ok ... enough celebrating.....

[siopaoboi]

omg!!!

[BandWagon Cavs Fan]

Pavlovic gets shit on again. :lol

Get a fucking broom.

fuck outta here

[angelbelow]

wow

[Ice009]

Lebron what a player. Sensational.

[Kriz-Maxima]

About time MVP.

[Spursfan092120]

Great shot, Lebron..great fucking shot.

[Hank the Tank]

oh well...the cavs needed a fuckin miracle to win it. now down to orlando where the cavs get their ass kicked.

[The Third Man]

That shot right there is going to propel them to the championship.

[BandWagon Cavs Fan]

Haha, the Lebrons are gonna get LeSwept

fuck outta here

[Allanon]

Clutch shot by LeBron James.

[DrHouse]

SVG is really not good at drawing up last second defensive plays.

Should have put more pressure on the inbound passer. And shaded at least 1-2 guys to double on Lebron.

[KidCongo]

Where are the fuckin haters!

I don't give a shit that we blew the lead when Bron hits that.

[Armando]

Fuck

[NewJerSpur]

man wtf, the thrown ball should of been a technical!

Looking back on it, it was a major call, but props to the Cavs for their resiliance.

[lefty]

I'm sorry, Magic fans

[Typhoon]

Luck of the champion.

[BRHornet45]

sons I think its safe to say the magnets worked.

[Libri]

http://microscopiq.com/images/stern-dave.jpg

[iggypop123]

stern just cummed. kobe lebron is back on

[redzero]

Well, it looks like the series is going to five.

[Spursfan092120]

Cavs just stole momentum...

[me15lo]

oh




































crap

:lol

[Rogue]

Hedo was fucking retarded to leave LBC open for that fucking 3

[NewJerSpur]

That was a terrible decision to put Hedo on LeBron....terrible.

[KidCongo]

I hope that shot is the catalyst for the series.

[ballhog]

Lucky shot.

[ginobme]

Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
He is the kinggggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He fucks you all bithches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kings usually have to win something other than conference and division titles...just saying..nice shot tho :toast

[DrHouse]

I bet Gortat wishes he didn't get that T.

[BandWagon Cavs Fan]

Chosen 1 HOESSSSS, fuck off of Magics dick. Cant deny a King........

[NewJerSpur]

The good thing about the Boston series was that it showed Orlando that there's nothing they can't come back from. Now the board/thread will start to fill up.

[ginobme]

I bet Gortat wishes he didn't get that T.

I bet Magic fans wish they called a T on Williams for throwing the ball:lol

[me15lo]

http://microscopiq.com/images/stern-dave.jpg






:lmao

[ballhog]

I hope that shot is the catalyst for the series.

They need more than that.

[NewJerSpur]

I bet Gortat wishes he didn't get that T.

Mo should've gotten HIS tech. The missed FT's hurt Orlando as well.

[BandWagon Cavs Fan]

Where are the fuckin haters!

I don't give a shit that we blew the lead when Bron hits that.

exactly, ITS AMAAAAZZZZING hahhaa

[baseline bum]

Damn, Cleveland is lucky as fuck. Game 3 in Orlando is gonna be ugly though unless the Cavs pull their heads out their asses.

[SpursPreacher]

Live by the 3 you die by the 3

[iggypop123]

sorry fellas i guess the disappointment matchup of thuggets orlando isnt happening

[ginobme]

The good thing about the Boston series was that it showed Orlando that there's nothing they can't come back from. Now the board/thread will start to fill up.

Hell yeah. Its gonna be 3-1 coming back for game 5.

[BRHornet45]

:lmao

his last second rush to get those magnets installed in the Cavs rim paid off.

[angelbelow]

SVG is really not good at drawing up last second defensive plays.

Should have put more pressure on the inbound passer. And shaded at least 1-2 guys to double on Lebron.

funny how you sit where you are and criticize coaches.

[Ice009]

like i said. foul lebron!!!!!!!

That would have been a good move ;).

[DrHouse]

That was really an incredible shot.

SVG, why on earth didn't you put Pietrus on LBJ? Hedo doesn't have the footspeed.

[KidCongo]

They need more than that.

Eh this better spark every role player on that team.

[ginobme]

exactly, ITS AMAAAAZZZZING hahhaa

You saved your season. Congrats :toast Now you get to go on the road for 2 :lol good luck

[NewJerSpur]

The fact remains, the Magic know they have the better team and can hang with the Undefeatables at the "Q".

[Ice009]

Gotta give LeBron some props...that shit was contested as hell.

This is a question that I will ask, but obviously I couldn't while I was watching that last possession - WHY IN THE FUCK WAS PIETRIUS not on Lebron for that last shot?

Van Gundy really screwed up there.

[Rogue]

Hedo should have either thrown his last shot higher to burn up the rest 1 second, or put more pressure on LBC at the final defensive round. But that idiot didn't do either of them, if I were in charge of Magic I would trade that fool in this summer for Stack.

[Warlord23]

Why wasn't Pietrus on LeBron? Hedo has been clutch, but asking him to guard James on the game-deciding play was idiotic.

No pressure on the inbounder. That was Lewis I believe.

Nobody else in the vicinity of Lebron. Why didn't they leave Pavlovic alone and double up on LeBron?

[FaithInOne]

I bet Gortat wishes he didn't get that T.

bullshit call

the t was worth it

[tlongII]

Love these series!

[NewJerSpur]

This is a question that I will ask, but obviously I couldn't while I was watching that last possession - WHY IN THE FUCK WAS PIETRIUS not on Lebron for that last shot?

Van Gundy really screwed up there.

:tu Royally. Terrible decision.

[DrHouse]

The Cavs did not deserve this win.

If there is such a thing as basketball karma they will lose the series.

[BandWagon Cavs Fan]

You saved your season. Congrats :toast Now you get to go on the road for 2 :lol good luck

thanks.....we need something cuz this Magic team is something hella scary. I aint never saying shits over playing this team, I dont give a damn if Cavs are up by 25 sons........

[Crookshanks]

Wow! I really thought the Magic were gonna steal this game. That was an incredible 4th quarter and what a finish. Reminds me of the Spurs/Lakers .4. Timmy made that incredible shot and we thought we had the game and then wham - Fisher hits the .4 shot.

But the Magic still have to feel good about this series. They were down 20 points and came all the way back and ALMOST won the game.

[baseline bum]

No doubt though; King James is the baddest motherfucker in the game!

[KidCongo]

Cavs could have been 2-0 up had Mo hit that prayer with 1sec left in game 1.

Lots of what if's in this series so far, and only 2 games played.

[DrHouse]

IMHO that shot was very similar to the one Kobe hit against DET in '04. The Lakers were lucky to escape with a win in Game 2, but the reality of it was that DET was just a better team and prevailed in the end.

I see the same thing happening in this series if the refs allow it. What has gone on with the officiating thus far is nothing short of a travesty.

LBJ and the Cavs did not deserve this win. They were gifted it by some extremely incompetent officiating.

[NewJerSpur]

The Magic should be amped going back home and eager to get back on the court. This loss shouldn't be that big of a deal because they weren't expected to come out 2-0, regardless of the circumstances. Magic won off grit, Cavs won off of a prayer.

[florige]

LeCrab drilled that fucker! I bet Thunderdan just blew his load everywhere after that.

[LakerHater]

I woulda doubled James, one over & one under & not gaurd the inbouds!

[florige]

IMHO that shot was very similar to the one Kobe hit against DET in '04. The Lakers were lucky to escape with a win in Game 2, but the reality of it was that DET was just a better team and prevailed in the end.

I see the same thing happening in this series if the refs allow it. What has gone on with the officiating thus far is nothing short of a travesty.

LBJ and the Cavs did not deserve this win. They were gifted it by some extremely incompetent officiating.



Damn dude I was just thinking the exact same thoughts.

[Armando]

SVG is really not good at drawing up last second defensive plays.

Should have put more pressure on the inbound passer. And shaded at least 1-2 guys to double on Lebron.





Lewis was too far from Williams. He should have been closer to him ala Odon on Carter. Lewis's length would have bothered him. Although the Magic going home I can easily see the Cavs going 0-2.

[JoeTait75]

So are you guys entertained or what? :wow

I really don't see how the Cavaliers can win in Orlando if they can't hold a 23-point lead at home. But goddamn, LeBron is good.

[Rogue]

that's a fucking scam, the Magic were demanded to leave LBC open for that 3. The league doesn't want a conference final to end up as a sweep, I bet David Stern did something on the Magic during that time-out.

[timvp]

Got damn what a good series so far.

[Warlord23]

Lakers win 105-103
Magic win 107-106
Denver wins 106-103
Cleveland wins 96-95

Average margin of victory in the conference finals: 1.75 !!!

[ballhog]

Great games to watch anyway.

[NewJerSpur]

So are you guys entertained or what? :wow

I really don't see how the Cavaliers can win in Orlando if they can't hold a 23-point lead at home. But goddamn, LeBron is good.

SVG tossed him and alley-oop and he slammed it. :toast

[Allanon]

That was pretty damn awesome.

Go Cavs!!!!

[KidCongo]

IMHO that shot was very similar to the one Kobe hit against DET in '04. The Lakers were lucky to escape with a win in Game 2, but the reality of it was that DET was just a better team and prevailed in the end.

I see the same thing happening in this series if the refs allow it. What has gone on with the officiating thus far is nothing short of a travesty.

LBJ and the Cavs did not deserve this win. They were gifted it by some extremely incompetent officiating.

Get fucked with the officiating BS! Even blaming the refs when your team isn't playing.

[Armando]

IMHO that shot was very similar to the one Kobe hit against DET in '04. The Lakers were lucky to escape with a win in Game 2, but the reality of it was that DET was just a better team and prevailed in the end.

I see the same thing happening in this series if the refs allow it. What has gone on with the officiating thus far is nothing short of a travesty.

LBJ and the Cavs did not deserve this win. They were gifted it by some extremely incompetent officiating.



Is generous of you to call it incompetent.

[BRHornet45]

that's a fucking scam, the Magic were demanded to leave LBC open for that 3. The league doesn't want a conference final to end up as a sweep, I bet David Stern did something on the Magic during that time-out.

son not to mention the magnets that were put into the Cavs rim at the end. did you see how much that ball bounced around? fluke, lucky shot that would have never gone in without the magnets.

[DrHouse]

Good game to watch, it's fun to be able to watch this stuff carefree. I really don't give a shit who comes out of this series.

[iggypop123]

almost makes me forget the trash we had to watch before the conference series with Atlanta and New Orleans

[florige]

Wow! I really thought the Magic were gonna steal this game. That was an incredible 4th quarter and what a finish. Reminds me of the Spurs/Lakers .4. Timmy made that incredible shot and we thought we had the game and then wham - Fisher hits the .4 shot.

But the Magic still have to feel good about this series. They were down 20 points and came all the way back and ALMOST won the game.




Lets hope not for Orlando's sake. That BS shot all but killed us for the series.

[me15lo]

I bet David Stern did something on the Magic during that time-out.

Brhornets magnet theory is pretty good

[tomtom]

howard needs more shots

[NewJerSpur]

If I'm the Magic, I go straight to practice from the plane.

[lil_penny]

Stan van gundy was a witness

[iggypop123]

Get fucked with the officiating BS! Even blaming the refs when your team isn't playing.

he probably means the mo williams gift.and the thrown ball. inside the nba isnt even showing it

[Rogue]

Anyone being left wipe open can easily hit a three pointer, It's bullshit the Magic didn't put any defense on LBC at that second. Stern cooked up that 3 and managed to feed it into LBC's beak, congratulations. :toast

[MambaJuice2408]

I think the Magic are gonna steam roll the Cavs in game 3. Then Game 4 will be a toss up. I just don't see enough from the Cavs role players that makes me think theyre gonna step up in Orlando.

ON that last play, why not have a two guys take the guy off the inbound passer and have courtney lee and michael pietrus both on LeBron?

[NewJerSpur]

Lets hope not for Orlando's sake. That BS shot all but killed us for the series.

They should've lost the series to Boston by all counts, but they bounced back. They seem not to take things as hard as other championship contenders, like they don't know what's at stake, that's why they keep shooting bombs from behind the arc.

[Banzai]

this thread just got tagged.....http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/20/lol_whiehouse.gif (http://www.threadbombing.com/details.php?image_id=3302)

[iggypop123]

Lets hope not for Orlando's sake. That BS shot all but killed us for the series.

by us you mean orlando vs nuggets?

[baseline bum]

Can Orlando continue shooting 44% from the 3-point line? That's a lot to ask.

[KidCongo]

Can Orlando continue shooting 44% from the 3-point line? That's a lot to ask.

I hope the Cavs 3-bombs start dropping.

[ezau]

Orlando is clearly the better team here. How can the Cavs win a game in Orlando when they can't even hold on to a 23-point lead?

[DrHouse]

A lotta woulda, coulda, shouldas. The bottom line is you have to know LBJ is deadlier from 5ft behind the 3pt line than he is 5 ft inside the 3pt line. You force anybody BUT him to shoot that basketball.

BTW how many games has ORL lost now at the buzzer? At least 2 right?

[Armando]

Lewis was so far away from Williams on the inbounds pass he was in Joe Dumar's office. Your 6'10 get up on him like Odom did to Carter. Blown game by the Magic good thing for them they are going home.

[NewJerSpur]

Can Orlando continue shooting 44% from the 3-point line? That's a lot to ask.

When you're hot you're hot, and they obviously practice a ton from behind the arc. I'm just glad they throw in some drives every once in a while.

[endrity]

To all you saying the Magic played bad defense, are you out of your mind. Turk prevented LBJ from getting an alley-oop, pushed him to a deep 3, and closed on him immediately. That was an amazing shot, simple as that.

[BRHornet45]

How can the Cavs win a game in Orlando when they can't even hold on to a 23-point lead?


son here is your answer to that ...

http://microscopiq.com/images/stern-dave.jpg

[Warlord23]

Can Orlando continue shooting 44% from the 3-point line? That's a lot to ask.

This IMO is the key question. The Cavs and their earlier-dominant defense has been completely flummoxed by the Magic's perimeter shooting. Are the Magic simply getting lucky, and if so, what if they start missing? Or, are the Cavs defending the 3 poorly, and if so, how will they adjust?

[NewJerSpur]

Glad the Magic love the "Q" just as mutch as the Cavs....just in case it's tied on the way back.

[Budkin]

To all you saying the Magic played bad defense, are you out of your mind. Turk prevented LBJ from getting an alley-oop, pushed him to a deep 3, and closed on him immediately. That was an amazing shot, simple as that.

Agree 100% Just a shot for the ages.

[NewJerSpur]

To all you saying the Magic played bad defense, are you out of your mind. Turk prevented LBJ from getting an alley-oop, pushed him to a deep 3, and closed on him immediately. That was an amazing shot, simple as that.

He didn't close on him quick enough. The guy only had one second to shoot.

[Rogue]

To all you saying the Magic played bad defense, are you out of your mind. Turk prevented LBJ from getting an alley-oop, pushed him to a deep 3, and closed on him immediately. That was an amazing shot, simple as that.
I would rather that was a alley-oop that put that game to OT, the winner would be Magic even if the OT came.

[Armando]

To all you saying the Magic played bad defense, are you out of your mind. Turk prevented LBJ from getting an alley-oop, pushed him to a deep 3, and closed on him immediately. That was an amazing shot, simple as that.



A lob would at worst have tied them but Lewis should have pressured the inbounder more. My question know is if Orlando fails to sweep the next 2 games can they win another in Cleveland?

[NewJerSpur]

A lob would at worst have tied them but Lewis should have pressured the inbounder more. My question know is if Orlando fails to sweep the next 2 games can they win another in Cleveland?

I think so. The Cavs can't blow past the Magic to this point, as hard as they may try....that hasn't been their game for most of the season, including the playoffs.

[cobbler]

son here is your answer to that ...

http://microscopiq.com/images/stern-dave.jpg

You have got to be the whinyest sour grape bitch on the forum. If you really think the league is rigged, as you must because every other post you make says so, then you are either the biggest sheep in the land or the most ignorant fan in ages. Just absolutely completely pathetic. :whine

[endrity]

I am sorry but this is just crazy, you rather let him have a crazy 3pt shot, with a probability of 10% at best than a lob with a probability of over 90%. You do that every single time! It was a crazy shot, for the ages as Budkin says, nothing to do on that.

[BandWagon Cavs Fan]

You have got to be the whinyest sour grape bitch on the forum. If you really think the league is rigged, as you must because every other post you make says so, then you are either the biggest sheep in the land or the most ignorant fan in ages. Just absolutely completely pathetic. :whine

+1 shits gettin old and retarded son

[KidCongo]

Apparently one of the 3's Pietrus made should have been a 2. Just saying.

[Banzai]

look to the skys..chem trails...muahhahaha http://rense.com/1.imagesH/family_dees.jpg

[NewJerSpur]

Grab LeBron's arm a bit so he can't push off, but you've got to close on that shot and hopefully swipe at it going by. Pietrus should've been on him.

[Ice009]

:tu Royally. Terrible decision.

Exactly I was wondering why Hedo was on Lebron, but I couldn't ask that while I was trying to watch that last possession.

Why would you not put your best defender on him?

This game can be that simple. You want your best player taking the last shot and you want your best defender defending that last play.

[endrity]

And as for the other question, as long as the Cavs keep playing two bigs than the Magic will knock down the 3pt shots. They are all amazing shooters, especially Turk and Lewis.

It's the same question the Lakers will have to face if they play the Magic in the Finals. Do you play with two bigs and constantly allow 3pt shots, or do you have any possible chance of controlling Howard with only one big? It's a big dilema for any team, which is why the Magic right now are probably the favourites to win.

[Armando]

I am sorry but this is just crazy, you rather let him have a crazy 3pt shot, with a probability of 10% at best than a lob with a probability of over 90%. You do that every single time! It was a crazy shot, for the ages as Budkin says, nothing to do on that.



Yes I still take the lob at worst you play on 5 minutes more. You don't think the Cavs run that play in practice? And to add insult to injury Hedo's closeout was late.

[cobbler]

Only mistake the Magic made on the play was Lewis giving space to Williams on the inbounds. He should have contested the inbounds. He was playing as if he didnt want williams to get the pass back as the inbounder often does, but with one second left.... that wasn't going to happen.

[DrHouse]

The Magic have completely dominated the Cavs on their home floor this season.

If the refs call it fairly they will win Game 3 handily.

[NewJerSpur]

Yes I still take the lob at worst you play on 5 minutes more. You don't think the Cavs run that play in practice? And to add insult to injury Hedo's closeout was late.

Exactly. Give LeBron credit for making the shot, but he was given the green light to do so, and I'm not talking about by his coach either.

[Ice009]

Brhornets magnet theory is pretty good

LOL I was thinking the same thing.

[Armando]

I am sorry but this is just crazy, you rather let him have a crazy 3pt shot, with a probability of 10% at best than a lob with a probability of over 90%. You do that every single time! It was a crazy shot, for the ages as Budkin says, nothing to do on that.




Plus with D12 there he could have broken off the lob pass. You would not give Ray Allen,JR Smith or Kobe that much space much less LeBron.

[cobbler]

And as for the other question, as long as the Cavs keep playing two bigs than the Magic will knock down the 3pt shots. They are all amazing shooters, especially Turk and Lewis.

It's the same question the Lakers will have to face if they play the Magic in the Finals. Do you play with two bigs and constantly allow 3pt shots, or do you have any possible chance of controlling Howard with only one big? It's a big dilema for any team, which is why the Magic right now are probably the favourites to win.


Agreed! As a Laker fan, should they make it we want no part of the Magic. Matchups against the Cavs are much better.

[NewJerSpur]

Plus with D12 there he could have broken off the lob pass. You would not give Ray Allen,JR Smith or Kobe that much space much less LeBron.

Depends on how J.R.'s been shooting that night. :lol

[endrity]

Yes I still take the lob at worst you play on 5 minutes more. You don't think the Cavs run that play in practice? And to add insult to injury Hedo's closeout was late.

So what if they practice, that's still a crazy shot, with a much lower probability of going in.

To me this is hindsight 20/20 at its best. Maybe Lewis should have been trying to cover the entry pass a bit better, that's all I can say. Lebron hit a crazy shot, once in a while they go in, just like Fisher's .4, Mo Williams' 70 footer in game 1, and that's all there is to it

[DrHouse]

Even though ORL got the split it is absolutely imperative they don't blow any of their home games.

They won't win another game at the Q IMHO.

[NewJerSpur]

Even though ORL got the split it is absolutely imperative they don't blow any of their home games.

They won't win another game at the Q IMHO.

They blew MULTIPLE games against the champs...they shouldn't be worried as long as they can get one at home against Cleveland, which they have proven they can. Now the Lakers on the other hand, NEED Game 3 IMO.

[Armando]

So what if they practice, that's still a crazy shot, with a much lower probability of going in.

To me this is hindsight 20/20 at its best. Maybe Lewis should have been trying to cover the entry pass a bit better, that's all I can say. Lebron hit a crazy shot, once in a while they go in, just like Fisher's .4, Mo Williams' 70 footer in game 1, and that's all there is to it



I give you that if Lewis had contested the inbounds more is GAME OVER. I think Lewis was worried about Mo getting the ball back but he should know with a second left its strctly catch and shoot. No time for them to pass the ball. Also Hedo was late on the closeout but I would have rather seen Pietrus on James.

[endrity]

Even though ORL got the split it is absolutely imperative they don't blow any of their home games.

They won't win another game at the Q IMHO.

That's hard to say man, they almost left this place up 2-0, and the mismatches will be there all series long. They definetely can win another one at the Q if they need to. I am telling you, this Magic team is not afraid anymore. It's just like Kenny said in the show, once you get scared once and you come back, you know how to deal with it. I played football for a bit, and I always played better after someone landed a hard hit on me, it got me going, and the Magic seem to have a bit of that on them.

[jdev82]

well, cant say this changes anything. its been the same all along. the cavs were going to win a tough one, and it all depends if orlando is stong enought mentally to bounce back. they won one in cleveland, so they just have to win at home. great shot, but i thinnk it was vince lombardi who said: "when you cross the finish line, act like you've been there before. " he totally didnt know that was going in. lol. well whatever, this will be the most replayed sports event since zidanes headbutt or mj's shot against the jazz in 98. bank on it. the dick riding begins.

[Lebron4MVP]

What a win. That being said....I am really doubting this Cavs team. They needed a fucking miracle in a game they had to win. That isnt a very good sign heading to Orlando.

[Armando]

Even though ORL got the split it is absolutely imperative they don't blow any of their home games.

They won't win another game at the Q IMHO.



Yes they can't ill afford to lose either game at home. At worst they will be in position to close out in Game 6.

[NewJerSpur]

That's hard to say man, they almost left this place up 2-0, and the mismatches will be there all series long. They definetely can win another one at the Q if they need to. I am telling you, this Magic team is not afraid anymore. It's just like Kenny said in the show, once you get scared once and you come back, you know how to deal with it. I played football for a bit, and I always played better after someone landed a hard hit on me, it got me going, and the Magic seem to have a bit of that on them.

:tu

[DrHouse]

The Magic came out here and did exactly what they needed to do.

Now it's time for them to come home and dominate. They have to dominate both of these home games and go up 3-1.

[Ice009]

I still want an answer to my question about Pietrus guarding Lebron.

Has anyone bothered to ask Van Gundy that question?

[Lebron4MVP]

What a win. That being said, the Cavs are in serious trouble. They have played like ass in Orlando and needed a fucking miracle in a game they HAD to win. This isnt a good sign at all for Cleveland.

[NewJerSpur]

well, cant say this changes anything. its been the same all along. the cavs were going to win a tough one, and it all depends if orlando is stong enought mentally to bounce back. they won one in cleveland, so they just have to win at home. great shot, but i thinnk it was vince lombardi who said: "when you cross the finish line, act like you've been there before. " he totally didnt know that was going in. lol. well whatever, this will be the most replayed sports event since zidanes headbutt or mj's shot against the jazz in 98. bank on it. the dick riding continues.

Fixed.

[endrity]

I give you that if Lewis had contested the inbounds more is GAME OVER. I think Lewis was worried about Mo getting the ball back but he should know with a second left its strctly catch and shoot. No time for them to pass the ball. Also Hedo was late on the closeout but I would have rather seen Pietrus on James.

How late was Hedo really? There was one second!! It seemed to me like a legit close out. And I think he was on James instead of Pietrus, simply because he is bigger, which means that on a catch and shoot he would force LeBron to a more difficult shot. He did that, LeBron still made it. As some who witnessed Baron's crazy shots against the Mavs in 07, sometimes it doesn't matter how much of a good defense you play.

[NewJerSpur]

I still want an answer to my question about Pietrus guarding Lebron.

Has anyone bothered to ask Van Gundy that question?

They need to, that was totally inexcusable and idiotic. HE'D BEEN GUARDING HIM AS LONG AS THEY WERE BOTH IN THE GAME UP TO THAT POINT.

[NewJerSpur]

How late was Hedo really? There was one second? It seemed to me like a legit close out. And I think he was on James instead of Pietrus, simply because he is bigger, which means that on a catch and shoot he would force LeBron to a more difficult shot. He did that, LeBron still made it. As some who witnessed Baron's crazy shots against the Mavs in 07, sometimes it doesn't matter how much of a good defense you play.

Hedo should've tugged at LeBron a bit to brace himself for the push off, even at the expense of a possible foul. The closeout was late.

[Armando]

How late was Hedo really? There was one second? It seemed to me like a legit close out. And I think he was on James instead of Pietrus, simply because he is bigger, which means that on a catch and shoot he would force LeBron to a more difficult shot. He did that, LeBron still made it. As some who witnessed Baron's crazy shots against the Mavs in 07, sometimes it doesn't matter how much of a good defense you play.



Again I go back to the inbounds pass. Lewis should have been up on Williams and taken away the direct pass to LeBron.

[endrity]

well, cant say this changes anything. its been the same all along. the cavs were going to win a tough one, and it all depends if orlando is stong enought mentally to bounce back. they won one in cleveland, so they just have to win at home. great shot, but i thinnk it was vince lombardi who said: "when you cross the finish line, act like you've been there before. " he totally didnt know that was going in. lol. well whatever, this will be the most replayed sports event since zidanes headbutt or mj's shot against the jazz in 98. bank on it. the dick riding begins.

To be honest those two moments were in the final game of the NBA Finals, and the World Cup final, truly the highest possible stage of their sports. This isn't quite there, but it might become for a long time LBJ's signature moment, just like MJ's shot over Ehlo.

[Lebron4MVP]

Im relieved we got the victory but blowing a 23 point lead pisses me off. We got lucky to hold on. Fact is the Cavs are getting exposed and Orlando is showing (in the 2nd half that is) how to limit the Cavs.

[Armando]

They need to, that was totally inexcusable and idiotic. HE'D BEEN GUARDING HIM AS LONG AS THEY WERE BOTH IN THE GAME UP TO THAT POINT.



As for the inbound pass he should take notes from Colonel Sanders on how to defend a inbounds pass in a tight game.

[JoeTait75]

Somewhere in the Pacific Northwest, Craig Ehlo just blazed up a hogger, sat back and smiled.

[Armando]

Im relieved we got the victory but blowing a 23 point lead pisses me off. We got lucky to hold on. Fact is the Cavs are getting exposed and Orlando is showing (in the 2nd half that is) how to limit the Cavs.



Imagine if Orlando had shown up in the 1st half. You know at home they won't have those slow starts.

[endrity]

Again I go back to the inbounds pass. Lewis should have been up on Williams and taken away the direct pass to LeBron.

That I can agree with, which as you also pointed out, there was no time for Williams to get the ball back. But I've seen the play many times now, there is hardly an argument for a late closeout. People are much later during the game, and it's considered good defense. Maybe Turk should have jumped, but I guess he was afraid of fouls and given LBJ's reputation with getting calls I can't blame him.

[Lebron4MVP]

Where are the fuckin haters!

I don't give a shit that we blew the lead when Bron hits that.



:rolleyes You should give a shit. It should have never come down to a fucking miracle in a game we had to win. We are in trouble. We suck playing in Orlando and the Magic have all the confidence in the world that they can beat us. We have questionable confidence against them especially in their house.

[NewJerSpur]

As for the inbound pass he should take notes from Colonel Sanders on him to defend a inbounds pass in a tight game.

:tu

AND WHERE THE HELL IS ARIZA WHEN YOU NEED HIM....didn't he used to play for the Magic, lol?

[KidCongo]

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/playoffs/2009/05/22/nba_20090522_orl_cle_finish.nba/

Analyze all you want.

[JoeTait75]

:rolleyes You should give a shit. It should have never come down to a fucking miracle in a game we had to win. We are in trouble. We suck playing in Orlando and the Magic have all the confidence in the world that they can beat us. We have questionable confidence against them especially in their house.

Look, I don't feel all that optimistic either, but for now, just savor the win. Sunday will be here soon enough.

[jdev82]

Fixed.

nope, the dick riding elevates to a new level. after this one there will be people saying he is the best ever. forget 2007 and all his steroids and calls. he will be sucked off by every official and commentator at halftime of every game.

[Lebron4MVP]

Look, I don't feel all that optimistic either, but for now, just savor the win. Sunday will be here soon enough.


fair enough

[NRHector]

Magic will win the series, they have the killing instinct and they are hungrier

[Armando]

Oh well is not like the Cavs were going to be swept anyways. I am really looking forward to the game on Sunday.

[NewJerSpur]

Got another look, and the closeout wasn't that late, just soft defense. Pietrus should've been out there dammit....might've stripped it on the way up or something.

[ginobme]

Look, I don't feel all that optimistic either, but for now, just savor the win. Sunday will be here soon enough.

I don't think this is something you should savor. Its wasn't amazing, it was miraculous. And if this team needs a miracle at home in game 2, you have much bigger problems. I have no dog in this fight man, just calling it like i see it. :flag:

[NRHector]

Even though ORL got the split it is absolutely imperative they don't blow any of their home games.

They won't win another game at the Q IMHO.if they win at home they don't have to win another game in Q

[Armando]

Got another look, and the closeout wasn't that late, just soft defense. Pietrus should've been out there dammit....might've stripped it on the way up or something.




I think maybe even throwing a double at him.

[NewJerSpur]

I think maybe even throwing a double at him.

Yeah, maybe. No one esle could shoot worth a damn. I'd be pissed if I'm Orlando....not down, PISSED.

[j.dizzle]

Freakin ORL is impressing me beyong belief..They cause a ton of mismatches for Cle..I thought CLE was supposed to have the best D in the league? Orl abused them in the second half of each game. Too bad they never show up in the 1st half, but they came & took care of business. Orl is gonna get better calls at home & the mismatches will still be there so if Lebron doesnt score 45-50 i dont see Cle taken any games there.

[Armando]

Yeah, maybe. No one esle could shoot worth a damn. I'd be pissed if I'm Orlando....not down, PISSED.



Throw a double and with 1 second left there is no time for him to make a pass.

[NewJerSpur]

Throw a double and with 1 second left there is no time for him to make a pass.

True, especially with his teammates laying bricks. How do you allow anyone to get off a 3....it's crazy. You play not to get beat in that situation, who cares if they tie?

[KidCongo]

Freakin ORL is impressing me beyong belief..They cause a ton of mismatches for Cle..I thought CLE was supposed to have the best D in the league? Orl abused them in the second half of each game. Too bad they never show up in the 1st half, but they came & took care of business. Orl is gonna get better calls at home & the mismatches will still be there so if Lebron doesnt score 45-50 i dont see Cle taken any games there.

The Cavs D improved allowing only 28 points in the paint (50 in game one). 6 fast break points for Orlando compared to 17 in game one.

The 3 balls are the shots that are bringing them back.

[Ice009]

:tu

AND WHERE THE HELL IS ARIZA WHEN YOU NEED HIM....didn't he used to play for the Magic, lol?

That was a stupid trade.

Who did the Magic get again?

[NewJerSpur]

Cavs were smart to double Howard early....he's not that great at passing out of the post yet. He's going to go off in game 3 though, I can feel it. And if he does have to kick it out, guys have to look to drive.

[NewJerSpur]

That was a stupid trade.

Who did the Magic get again?

Brian Cook and Maurice Evans. Both are fishing at this time. :rolleyes

[Ice009]

True, especially with his teammates laying bricks. How do you allow anyone to get off a 3....it's crazy. You play not to get beat in that situation, who cares if they tie?

Didn't the Spurs play Lebron straight up with Bruce on the last shot in game 3 of the 2007 finals? Why double team and leave someone wide open?

[Ice009]

Freakin ORL is impressing me beyong belief..They cause a ton of mismatches for Cle..I thought CLE was supposed to have the best D in the league? Orl abused them in the second half of each game. Too bad they never show up in the 1st half, but they came & took care of business. Orl is gonna get better calls at home & the mismatches will still be there so if Lebron doesnt score 45-50 i dont see Cle taken any games there.

You could be underestimating Lebron a little bit.

[ducks]

game in florida
the clock would have started on time

[Jacko]

The Cavs D improved allowing only 28 points in the paint (50 in game one). 6 fast break points for Orlando compared to 17 in game one.

The 3 balls are the shots that are bringing them back.

Are you fucking kidding me?

The Cavs gave up so many wide open 3's in the 4th quarter I thought I was watching the Lakers for a second.

ORL is making a shamockery of the Cavalier's vaunted defense by exposing their weak P&R defense. Hedo, Lewis, Lee, and Alston are slashing into the lanes at will and causing all kinds of matchup hell for the Cavs.

Had it not been for the refs and blown calls tonight the Cavs would have lost and been down 0-2.

[j.dizzle]

You could be underestimating Lebron a little bit.
:lol if lebron doesnt score 45-50 with 10 boards & 12 assists then hahaha..u know what im saying though..role players never play as good on the road & Clevelands role players didnt even do good at home

[Jacko]

Lebron is not going to win this series by himself.

The Cavs need their role players to start showing up. The problem is the Magic defense is making it incredibly tough for them to get open looks. Everything is contested.

[iggypop123]

Somewhere in the Pacific Northwest, Craig Ehlo just blazed up a hogger, sat back and smiled.

he must be rolling over his grave

[ducks]

Lebron is not going to win this series by himself.

The Cavs need their role players to start showing up. The problem is the Magic defense is making it incredibly tough for them to get open looks. Everything is contested.

role players at home not playing good not good for cavs

[NewJerSpur]

The encouraging part is seeing the Magic defense get tighter as the game goes on. They may have started out getting bashed in the 1st two games, but they locked up on Cleveland and ran them off of easy shots and even caused some shot-clock violations in the process.

[usckk]

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9251/lebrono.jpg

Does he really deserve this much praise?

[KidCongo]

Are you fucking kidding me?

The Cavs gave up so many wide open 3's in the 4th quarter I thought I was watching the Lakers for a second.

ORL is making a shamockery of the Cavalier's vaunted defense by exposing their weak P&R defense. Hedo, Lewis, Lee, and Alston are slashing into the lanes at will and causing all kinds of matchup hell for the Cavs.

Had it not been for the refs and blown calls tonight the Cavs would have lost and been down 0-2.

Did you know that if Mo hit the final shot in game one the Cavs would be up 2-0.

[Jacko]

Did you know that if Mo hit the final shot in game one the Cavs would be up 2-0.

Do you honestly think the Cavs are a better team than the Magic based on what you have seen thus far?

On the road you won't get the ref help and the Magic won't be digging themselves into 20pt holes.

That's what would scare me if I were a Cav fan. Nobody besides James has showed up for the Cavs and if they are going to win on the road that has to change.

[Lebron4MVP]

Do you honestly think the Cavs are a better team than the Magic based on what you have seen thus far?

On the road you won't get the ref help and the Magic won't be digging themselves into 20pt holes.

That's what would scare me if I were a Cav fan. Nobody besides James has showed up for the Cavs and if they are going to win on the road that has to change.


Right on the money. Outside of Lebron, it is the same fucking story. The supporting cast just isnt good enough.

[NewJerSpur]

Hope Anderson stops flopping on the road....he won't and shouldn't get that call.

[JoeTait75]

On the road you won't get the ref help

You mean like that push-off by Hedu that turned into a foul on Pavlovic?

You just watched a great game. Be a fan and appreciate it.

[NewJerSpur]

You mean like that push-off by Hedu that turned into a foul on Pavlovic?

You just watched a great game. Be a fan and appreciate it.

Magic actually did push off on some of their defensive rebounds, so it balances out with Anderson's flopping. I got respect for you Joe, you're here in good times and bad. Congrats. :toast

[KidCongo]

Do you honestly think the Cavs are a better team than the Magic based on what you have seen thus far?

On the road you won't get the ref help and the Magic won't be digging themselves into 20pt holes.

That's what would scare me if I were a Cav fan. Nobody besides James has showed up for the Cavs and if they are going to win on the road that has to change.

The Magic play the Cavaliers very well. Extremely tough team. They don't give up.

Can people stop blaming the refs. It has been officiated evenly. Can the Magic keep coming back from these defecits? What if the role players start to hit their shots for the Cavs?

Mo, Delonte and Big Z haven't looked very confident offensively. I'm hoping this game is what gives them the confidence. They can now attack Orlando on their homecourt, give it back to the Magic.

[NewJerSpur]

The Magic play the Cavaliers very well. Extremely tough team. They don't give up.

Can people stop blaming the refs. It has been officiated evenly. Can the Magic keep coming back from these defecits? What if the role players start to hit their shots for the Cavs?

Mo, Delonte and Big Z haven't looked very confident offensively. I'm hoping this game is what gives them the confidence. They can now attack Orlando on their homecourt, give it back to the Magic.

Mo and West might hit more jumpers late (esepcially if the Magic stop running them off of their spots as the game progresses), but Z has been terrible. Was he this bad when the Cavs were still rocking Black & Blue in the playoffs (the Terrell Brando days)?

[NewJerSpur]

I think Boston was a tougher matchup for Orlando because their bigs were better on offense and forced Orlando's bigs off the blocks. Rondo was also getting whatever he wanted in the lane whereas the Cavs backcourt settle for jumpers off of screens.

[Jacko]

The Magic play the Cavaliers very well. Extremely tough team. They don't give up.

Can people stop blaming the refs. It has been officiated evenly. Can the Magic keep coming back from these defecits? What if the role players start to hit their shots for the Cavs?

Mo, Delonte and Big Z haven't looked very confident offensively. I'm hoping this game is what gives them the confidence. They can now attack Orlando on their homecourt, give it back to the Magic.

It has been officiated evenly?

WTF kind of pot do they smoke up in Cleveland? I want some of that.

[KidCongo]

Mo and West might hit more jumpers late (esepcially if the Magic stop running them off of their spots as the game progresses), but Z has been terrible. Was he this bad when the Cavs were still rocking Black & Blue in the playoffs (the Terrell Brando days)?

When Mo hit the 3 and Z hit the jumper as a fan watching it made me feel much better. LeBron can't do everything. They aren't loose enough.

Um I didn't follow basketball then but looking at the stats of Z's only playoff run without LeBron he averaged 17/8 but lost in 4. His rookie year btw.

[NewJerSpur]

When Mo hit the 3 and Z hit the jumper as a fan watching it made me feel much better. LeBron can't do everything. They aren't loose enough.

Um I didn't follow basketball then but looking at the stats of Z's only playoff run without LeBron he averaged 17/8 but lost in 4. His rookie year btw.

That was before he started getting injured, I remember.

[JoeTait75]

That was before he started getting injured, I remember.

It was. Big Z was potentially a true franchise center before the foot injuries. Brevin Knight was just pound it in to him in the first quarter to get that team going.

[Jacko]

The high P&R that Hedo and Lewis run has been murder on the Cavalier defense.

They cannot hide their weak frontcourt defenders because every player on the Magic must be defended from 3 outside of D12.

I've seen nothing in both of these games that indicates they have the personnell to stop this. Game 3 should be a blowout for the Magic.

[NewJerSpur]

Hopefully this does turn into the 2004 Finals where the Pistons should've swept the Lakers, but couldn't put it away in Game 2 on the road. The better team usually prevails, and it appears the Magic have the better team, but they have to assert themselves in at least one game at home for further proof....hopefully 2.

[BandWagon Cavs Fan]

http://i43.tinypic.com/20koqs7.jpg

[NewJerSpur]

Meh, if it takes that to try and reclaim a bit of the luster you once captured on your homecourt, I'll take it. Fact remains: Cavs can't hold onto double-digit leads against Magic....even late in the game.

[TampaDude]

That was an amazing shot by LeBron, but it doesn't erase the fact that the Cavs were up by 23 points at one time and couldn't hold that lead in their own house. I know teams get sloppy when they have big leads, but damn. Orlando looks like the better team right now.

[ploto]

...Van Gundy blamed himself for allowing James to get off the shot that set off a wild celebration in Quicken Loans Arena.

"I'd like to have that last one back from a coaching standpoint," Van Gundy said. "I should have defended it differently. It's crushing enough to lose as a coach, but when you feel like you're the guy who could've made the difference, it hurts a lot more."

Van Gundy wouldn't divulge what he would do differently, for fear the same situation might arise later in the series. But he described in great detail how the Cavs were trying to set up James for a lob at the basket that could have sent the game into overtime. When Orlando's Hedo Turkoglu took that away before the inbounds pass, James bounced out to the top of the 3-point arc and hit the game-winner.

"Stan was in our huddle," Cavaliers coach Mike Brown said. "That's exactly right. We were going for the lob, Hedo took it away, so LeBron said, 'I'm going to win it."'

Turkoglu went from being a hero -- his 12-footer in the lane with one second left gave the Magic a 95-93 lead -- to watching James' shot float well over his head...

http://www.nba.com/2009/playoffs2009/05/23/van.gundy.ap/index.html

[armand0]

Did you know that if Mo hit the final shot in game one the Cavs would be up 2-0.

did you know if James didnt hit that final shot, Magic would be up 2-0 after 2 games in cleveland?