lol refs

[E20]

lol lebron haters complaining about refs yet again.

Also laker fans have no right complaining about refs involving lebron.

[BandWagon Cavs Fan]

lol lebron haters complaining about refs yet again.

Also laker fans have no right complaining about refs involving lebron.


+9999999999999999999

[DrHouse]

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[iggypop123]

mPPaztyf6eA

wow im shocked inside the nba isnt talking about this

[Allanon]

I don't complain about refs but if you're going to say the Lakers get ref love, you can forget that part of it.

10 Playoff Games for the Cavs, the opponent has only had 1 game where they shot more free throws.

14 Playoff Games for the Lakers, the opponent has shot more free throws than the Lakers in 9 (nine) games.

[Spursfan092120]

wow im shocked inside the nba isnt talking about this
yep..I've said it several times..the refs call that technical, like it's supposed to be...the game at LEAST goes into overtime...Orlando would have had the ball instead of Cleveland..Mo Williams shot a 3 on that play...

[DrHouse]

:lmao at the OP getting completely owned by the facts.

[baseline bum]

I don't complain about refs but if you're going to say the Lakers get ref love, you can forget that part of it.

10 Playoff Games for the Cavs, the opponent has only had 1 game where they shot more free throws.


:violin

Cleveland got one whole extra free throw on their home court tonight (26 to 25), and three extra in game one (17 to 14).




14 Playoff Games for the Lakers, the opponent has shot more free throws than the Lakers in 9 (nine) games.

Shit happens when you have a soft team that doesn't play D.

[BandWagon Cavs Fan]

who knows if they wouldve made the freethrow. bunch of if's and wouldve's? we dont know how the game wouldve been played if that tech was called sons....

[Allanon]

:violin

Cleveland got one whole extra free throw on their home court tonight (26 to 25), and three extra in game one (17 to 14).

9 games out of 10 they have shot more free throws.



Shit happens when you have a soft team that doesn't play D.

The Lakers score the most points in the paint than ANY team in the NBA. Nice try but the only Laker Ref love is in your imagination.

[DrHouse]

It's not just that T.

The Gortat blocking foul was total BS as was the T he got as a result of that BS call.

So many calls were outright blown in this game.

[NewJerSpur]

You could complain about the legitimacy of some of the calls, epsecially in the 2nd half as the Magic made a comeback, but not the numbers IMO.

[Spursfan092120]

Do the referees send out ANOTHER apology for the missed technical?

[ginobme]

You could complain about the legitimacy of some of the calls, epsecially in the 2nd half as the Magic made a comeback, but not the numbers IMO.

+1 I would complain about the timing as well. Every time ORL got w/in 6-8 a couple of times, and each time the calls were just horrible.

[DrHouse]

:lmao at OP getting owned and not showing up anymore.

[gameFACE]

Mo throws the basketball at Howard. Howard face slaps LeBron. Neither called. So what?

[NewJerSpur]

+1 I would complain about the timing as well. Every time ORL got w/in 6-8 a couple of times, and each time the calls were just horrible.

Especially the foul call when LeBron was stripped at the top of the key during a double team and Lee recovered the ball heading for an easy 2 point....momentum snatcher.

[ducks]

clock did not start when it should have

[BandWagon Cavs Fan]

clock did not start when it should have


hahaha knew it had to be something lol hahahhaa

[E20]

Once again the officiating was not unbalanced.

TOTAL PERSONAL FOULS:

CAVS: 24
MAGIC: 25

TOTAL FT's REWARDED
CAVS: 26
MAGIC 25

[E20]

Also I love how people call out the refs to call games like back in the past, where rough housing was allowed (e.g Parish's elbow to Bill Lambieer and nothing was called), but suddenly anything remotely rough needs to be an automatic T and suspension.

[E20]

Also Laker fans who worry themselves endless about the Cavs/Lebron and their series, please pay attention to your OWN team which are still in the PO's and looking to struggle against the Nuggets.

[E20]

Also LMAO @ ducks for teh clock comment.

[Allanon]

Also Laker fans who worry themselves endless about the Cavs/Lebron and their series, please pay attention to your OWN team which are still in the PO's and looking to struggle against the Nuggets.

I'm rooting for the LeBron's to win...and these two first games have been great. Pure NBA Entertainment when you're not really emotionally involved.

There were some iffy calls that could be chalked up to home cooking. The missed Technical on Mo Williams...I have not idea what to chalk that one up to.

I only take exception to the thought that the Lakers are getting helped by the refs in the Playoffs. Nothing farther from the truth. In my opinion, the refs have a long ways to go to just even things up for the Lakers; let alone show them any favor.

[E20]

Mo Williams technical foul should be called, but Mo Williams has nothign to do with Lebron. Refs just pussied out on that.

Eventually the fouls balanced out in this game.

Also Dahntay Jones 4 fouls in 5 minutes.

[Amaso]

I'm rooting for the LeBron's to win...and these two first games have been great. Pure NBA Entertainment when you're not really emotionally involved.

There were some iffy calls that could be chalked up to home cooking. The missed Technical on Mo Williams...I have not idea what to chalk that one up to.

I only take exception to the thought that the Lakers are getting helped by the refs in the Playoffs. Nothing farther from the truth. In my opinion, the refs have a long ways to go to just even things up for the Lakers; let alone show them any favor.

Part of the reason the Lakers don't have the homecourt "advantage" is cause the fans don't get crazy over a blown call. Every single game this postseason that's been played in a city like Cleveland or Utah when the refs make a bad call on one end, they give a makeup call on the very next possession. But yeah I agree, the Lakers never get helped by the refs.

[Allanon]

Mo Williams technical foul should be called, but Mo Williams has nothign to do with Lebron.

Fouls balanced out.

Also Dahntay Jones 4 fouls in 5 minutes.

Dahntay Jones is a foul machine just like Sasha Vujacic. If you think 4 fouls in 5 minutes is bad, I think Vujacic picked up 3 fouls in 60 seconds versus the Jazz or Rockets; forgot which one.

[E20]

lol I'm just hoping for lakers and cavs finals and i'm prety sure most laker fans are as well.

But I don't see the need for a lot of peeople to get up in arms whenever cavs win a close game or potentially might win a close game.

[Jacko]

When was the last time you've seen a player throw a ball at someone 10ft away, hit them in the back, and not get T'd up for it?

Honestly, can you tell me?

The video replay clearly shows that the ref closest to the play was looking right at Mo Williams when it happened and then he turned his head away afterwards. I don't know what else to say, either the refs are beyond incompetent or there is something else going on.

[E20]

When was the last time you've seen a player throw a ball at someone 10ft away, hit them in the back, and not get T'd up for it?

Honestly, can you tell me?

The video replay clearly shows that the ref closest to the play was looking right at Mo Williams when it happened and then he turned his head away afterwards. I don't know what else to say, either the refs are beyond incompetent or there is something else going on.

Yeah the ref pussied out. I'm sure many palyers throughout history and in these playoffs have gotten a layoff of doign something border line flagrant, T-worthy, or dirty. It's not uncommon.

[JoeTait75]

Amuses me when people complain BITTERLY and ANGRILY over the officiating in a game that doesn't even involve their own team.

[baseline bum]

9 games out of 10 they have shot more free throws.

They played dogshit teams in Detroit and Atlanta the first two rounds. Do you expect either of those teams to have any hope to compete with Cleveland? They're averaging a whole +2FT vs Orlando in their building. Big fucking deal.

[Jacko]

Anyone who doesn't think the officiating was completely biased towards the Cavs is either:

A.) Cavs fan
B.) Spur fan rooting for the Cavs so they can beat the Lakers

[Allanon]

They played dogshit teams in Detroit and Atlanta the first two rounds. Do you expect either of those teams to have any hope to compete with Cleveland?

Dogshit teams don't deserve free throws? Ah, I see.


They're averaging a whole +2FT vs Orlando in their building. Big fucking deal.

+2FT split between two games = 1 point each... would have decided the winner of the games.

But this isn't about the Cavs, they get their calls or not get their calls; whatever, that's their deal. This is about the Myth that the Lakers get these same kinds of calls.

[E20]

Anyone who doesn't think the officiating was completely biased towards the Cavs is either:

A.) Cavs fan
B.) Spur fan rooting for the Cavs so they can beat the Lakers

Sorry the Cavs had 24 personal fouls called on them and the Magic had 25.

In Game 1 the Cavs had more fouls called on them than the Magic.

The FT disparity in this game was +1 for the Cavs. Magic shot 25, Cavs shot 26.

In Game 1, the FT disparity was yet again +1, Cavs shot one more.

[baseline bum]

Anyone who doesn't think the officiating was completely biased towards the Cavs is either:

A.) Cavs fan
B.) Spur fan rooting for the Cavs so they can beat the Lakers

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1 fucking FT difference vs a team that just jacks up threes.

[baseline bum]

Dogshit teams don't deserve free throws? Ah, I see.

Dogshit teams that can't play defense and can't get to the basket don't earn free throw disparities.

[E20]

Dogshit teams don't deserve free throws? Ah, I see.

No, dogshit teams resort to foulign more, because they have no answer for the better team.


Once again LOL @ ______ fans complaining about officiating in a _______ game.


______ fans should worry about their own team.

[E20]

Dogshit teams don't deserve free throws? Ah, I see.



+2FT split between two games = 1 point each... would have decided the winner of the games.

But this isn't about the Cavs, they get their calls or not get their calls; whatever, that's their deal. This is about the Myth that the Lakers get these same kinds of calls.

WOW :wow Now even 1 extra FT for the Cavs is a fix. WTF LMAO sad.

[Allanon]

Dogshit teams that can't play defense and can't get to the basket don't earn free throw disparities.

And who on the Cavs can get to the basket other than LeBron? That's a jumpshooting team outside of King James.

[Allanon]

WOW :wow Now even 1 extra FT for the Cavs is a fix. WTF LMAO sad.

It's a 9 game trend, not just two games. But trying to minimalize +2FTs in 1 point losses is rather convenient.

That's 9 games out of 10 where the Cavs get more free throws. The Lakers only got the benefit 5 out of 14 games.

There is no Ref Laker Love.

[KidCongo]

And who on the Cavs can get to the basket other than LeBron? That's a jumpshooting team outside of King James.

LeBron gets to the line for about half of the teams free throws. The rest of the 10-14 left get split between about 7 players.

[baseline bum]

It's a 9 game trend, not just two games. But trying to minimalize +2FTs in 1 point losses is rather convenient.


Like when you fucking Laker fans were whining about Denver shooting +2FT last night, which were a direct result of Fisher intentionally fouling Billups?

[Jacko]

The number of F/T attempts isn't the sole determination of how the officiating went for a given night. In fact that's the dumbest and most short-sided analysis one could do. Why am I not surprised though?

I'm not going to explain myself to people that clearly didn't watch the game. There is a reason why people in the game thread who were rooting for the Cavs were saying shit like "I may have to switch teams to the Magic here with this BS officiating".

[TheProfessor]

Fans see what they want to see. Plain and simple. If the officiating bugs you that much, turn off your TV's, because it isn't changing. Could it be more consistent? Yes, of course, but this shit happens in the blink of an eye. I'm sick of reading comments where people focus entirely on the officiating without regard to their own team's (or another team's) failings.

[E20]

It's a 9 game trend, not just two games. But trying to minimalize +2FTs in 1 point losses is rather convenient.

That's 9 games out of 10 where the Cavs get more free throws. The Lakers only got the benefit 5 out of 14 games.

There is no Ref Laker Love.

Your logic is horrible. So the refs knew before hand that the game would be decided by one point so they purposely let the cavs shoot one more FT too make it look like they reffed a balance game, but in reality they knew what was going to happen. Ok.

[baseline bum]

The number of F/T attempts isn't the sole determination of how the officiating went for a given night. In fact that's the dumbest and most short-sided analysis one could do. Why am I not surprised though?

I'm not going to explain myself to people that clearly didn't watch the game. There is a reason why people in the game thread who were rooting for the Cavs were saying shit like "I may have to switch teams to the Magic here with this BS officiating".

True. Cleveland should almost always shoot significantly more FTs than Orlando, since the Magic jack up threes and Cleveland has a guy no one can stop from getting to the basket.

[E20]

The number of F/T attempts isn't the sole determination of how the officiating went for a given night. In fact that's the dumbest and most short-sided analysis one could do. Why am I not surprised though?

I'm not going to explain myself to people that clearly didn't watch the game. There is a reason why people in the game thread who were rooting for the Cavs were saying shit like "I may have to switch teams to the Magic here with this BS officiating".

Okay so explain this stat:

PERSONAL FOULS:
MAGIC: 25
CAVS: 24

[Allanon]

LeBron gets to the line for about half of the teams free throws. The rest of the 10-14 left get split between about 7 players.

I'm not saying there's a ref conspiracy against your team; even though there may be iffy calls. Cavs earned home court and if they get calls going their way, that's fine.

The Lakers on the other hand earned their HCA but haven't gotten the homecooking calls.

I'm cool with it either way because I think you SHOULD get home-cooking calls. But let's not start saying the Lakers have the refs on their side...so far in the Playoffs, they haven't.

[Allanon]

Like when you fucking Laker fans were whining about Denver shooting +2FT last night, which were a direct result of Fisher intentionally fouling Billups?

It sure as hell wasn't me whining about any ref calls...you'll never see me do that.

And as far as I know, almost no Laker fan here on ST whines about ref calls after a game. Maybe a complaint in the heat of the moment during a game but it's done when the game's done.

[Allanon]

Your logic is horrible. So the refs knew before hand that the game would be decided by one point so they purposely let the cavs shoot one more FT too make it look like they reffed a balance game, but in reality they knew what was going to happen. Ok.

Not at all. Baseline Bum tried to minimize the impact of 2 FT's, and I pointed out that those 2 FT's could have won a game in this series. 2 FT's in 1 point losses could have made a huge difference. Just like calling the technical on Mo could have been a huge difference.

But I never spoke about any ref conspiracies.

[baseline bum]

Not at all. Baseline Bum tried to minimize the impact of 2 FT's, and I pointed out that those 2 FT's could have won a game in this series. 2 FT's in 1 point losses could have made a huge difference. Just like calling the technical on Mo could have been a huge difference.

But I never spoke about any ref conspiracies.

Now you're just cherry picking. Any idiot can pick out one call that went against his team and blame that for losing a one-point game.

[iggypop123]

overall ft wasnt bad. billups for 16 is pathetic. lebron cant even get that many anymore

[Allanon]

Now you're just cherry picking. Any idiot can pick out one call that went against his team and blame that for losing a one-point game.

Of course.

And the same idiots can also say the refs are handing the Lakers wins when they aren't.

[Jacko]

It's obvious that those defending the Cavs here did not watch this game at all.

Several blown calls were momentum shifting calls that went against ORL. It's incredible that they still were able to fight through all of that and make it a game.

Case in point. Gortat sets himself up to draw the charge. Both feet clearly outside the restricted area. Firmly planted for a good second and a half. Takes the contact straight up and gets knocked on his ass. Easy call to make, especially considering the ref was behind him.

Blocking foul. Gortat gets upset, understandably, and gets T'd up. That's a 3pt swing right there. When you're trying to get back into the game and those calls happens it completely swings momentum from one side to the other.

Those kind of calls went on all throughout the game. Anyone who watched from start to finish knows that the Cavs benefited from some incredibly incompetent officiating.

[baseline bum]

It's obvious that those defending the Cavs here did not watch this game at all.

Several blown calls were momentum shifting calls that went against ORL. It's incredible that they still were able to fight through all of that and make it a game.

Case in point. Gortat sets himself up to draw the charge. Both feet clearly outside the restricted area. Firmly planted for a good second and a half. Takes the contact straight up and gets knocked on his ass. Easy call to make, especially considering the ref was behind him.

Blocking foul. Gortat gets upset, understandably, and gets T'd up. That's a 3pt swing right there. When you're trying to get back into the game and those calls happens it completely swings momentum from one side to the other.

Those kind of calls went on all throughout the game. Anyone who watched from start to finish knows that the Cavs benefited from some incredibly incompetent officiating.

Just like the Nuggets last night? :violin

[baseline bum]

overall ft wasnt bad. billups for 16 is pathetic. lebron cant even get that many anymore

If you don't want Billups shooting FTs, you better get a PG who's not a defensive turnstile like Fisher. I'm pretty sure LeBron could get that easily with LA's PGs defending him.

[Jacko]

This isn't about the Nuggets.

If you want to believe that the refs were fair tonight and gave the Magic a fair shake then go ahead. I know what I saw and so do about 99% of the people in the game thread who were posting while the game was going on. I don't care about what you read in the box score.

[baseline bum]

This isn't about the Nuggets.

If you want to believe that the refs were fair tonight and gave the Magic a fair shake then go ahead. I know what I saw and so do about 99% of the people in the game thread who were posting while the game was going on. I don't care about what you read in the box score.

You're cherry-picking because you're biased against Cleveland the same way every Laker fan who can't deal with LeBron being better than Kobe is.

[KidCongo]

This isn't about the Nuggets.

If you want to believe that the refs were fair tonight and gave the Magic a fair shake then go ahead. I know what I saw and so do about 99% of the people in the game thread who were posting while the game was going on. I don't care about what you read in the box score.

About 99% of the game thread were cheering Hedo when he hit that shot to put them up 95-93.

Then about 99% of the game thread were like fuck you LeBron.

[Allanon]

You're cherry-picking because you're biased against Cleveland the same way every Laker fan who can't deal with LeBron being better than Kobe is.

And the same fans who are saying that was a perfectly called game are cherry-picking the Lakers wins being "Ref won" because they're biased against Kobe and they can't deal with Kobe being a great player.

The Lakers are winning, in spite of, the refs; not because of them.

[tomtom]

Wow I'm amazed at the posters here just blinded by their hate of the lakers that they can't even acknowledge that this was one of the worst officiated games of the playoffs so far. The facts are clearly stated and even shown in video...

[Man In Black]

Spurs fans know an "Ed Hochuli" like call and will never forget the debacles known as .4 or the Fisher-No Call against Barry. In those 2 cases, critical to the Spurs and their fans, the refs, in essence, GAVE the Lakers victories. It's that simple. The Mavs now know how it feels to have the NBA make an apology after the fact, when we all know, it doesn't mean shit in the real world. It's an admission that doesn't change anything.

[DrHouse]

Wow I'm amazed at the posters here just blinded by their hate of the lakers that they can't even acknowledge that this was one of the worst officiated games of the playoffs so far. The facts are clearly stated and even shown in video...

They are literally blinded by their hatred

[KSeal]

they are literally blinded by their hatred

+1

[TampaDude]

Spurs fans know an "Ed Hochuli" like call and will never forget the debacles known as .4 or the Fisher-No Call against Barry. In those 2 cases, critical to the Spurs and their fans, the refs, in essence, GAVE the Lakers victories. It's that simple. The Mavs now know how it feels to have the NBA make an apology after the fact, when we all know, it doesn't mean shit in the real world. It's an admission that doesn't change anything.

+1 Fisher is not a popular guy around here. :lol

[TampaDude]

who knows if they wouldve made the freethrow. bunch of if's and wouldve's? we dont know how the game wouldve been played if that tech was called sons....

Yup...play selections might have been different later in the game. EVERYTHING affects the outcome, not just one call, unless that call is right at the end of the game (cough...cough...Fisher...Barry...cough...cough).

[Brazil]

I don't complain about refs but if you're going to say the Lakers get ref love, you can forget that part of it.

10 Playoff Games for the Cavs, the opponent has only had 1 game where they shot more free throws.

14 Playoff Games for the Lakers, the opponent has shot more free throws than the Lakers in 9 (nine) games.

it's just because lakers are soft. Without ref help lakers will be 0 FTA every game

[tso & lo Cavfanatic]

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It's a tech to D12 too. He hits Mo after the refs call.

[DrHouse]

What D12 did is something that is rarely called in basketball. The Celtics do it ALL the time and get away with it.

You can't even begin to compare that to throwing a fucking basketball at someone. At least in D12's case you can say he was trying to prevent the And-1.

[Cry Havoc]

You gotta love how much vitriol flows from Lakers fans when they see the one player touted to be better than Kobe wins a close playoff game.

YEP! THE GAME WAS FIXED! That's why with less than a minute left and the game seemingly hanging in the balance, they whistled LeBron for a travel. Because they want the Cavs to win and will do anything to make that happen.

How easy would it have been for the official to swallow his whistle? Traveling calls are missed all the time in the NBA, and it would have just been passed off. Instead, they gave Orlando the ball.

Let's review:

The best defensive team in the league has played two home games against the premiere jumpshooting/3 point team in the league.

The Cavs have pushed out to huge leads in both games. They lost one game in which they shot THREE more freethrows and won a game in which they shot ONE more. They have shot 4 more freethrows in 2 home games than the Magic.

But no, you're right. The officials are completely biased.

I just hope someday you are on the receiving end of what it's like to be when the fix really IS in against your team, when the other team shoots 20+ more freethrows than your team. It shows just how pampered Lakers fans are that they think a game like last night was "horrible officiating".

No. Horrible officiating would have meant the Cavs shooting 35+ free throws last night and winning by 25.

:lmao @ Lakers fans. EVERYTHING is about you. The ECF isn't about Cavs vs. Magic, it's about proving how "fairly" Lakers playoff games have been officiated, which, for the record, is NOT just a "Laker hate" phenomenon. JJ Adande even stated that he worried about G7 of the Lakers-Rockets being fixed by officiating. You have to be the most insecure fanbase in all of sports. You guys make Yankee fans look positively philanthropic.

[DrHouse]

It's not just Laker fans who were calling out the officiating in Game 2. It was Spur fans as well. Check the game thread.

[Cry Havoc]

It's not just Laker fans who were calling out the officiating in Game 2. It was Spur fans as well. Check the game thread.

The same fans who are yelling @#*! LeBron.

Yeah! They're really are an objective source! :lmao

Personally, I like both the Magic and Cavs. I could care less who wins the series. I thought the officiating was pretty bad last night, but it didn't favor the Cavs much, if at all. I saw a ton of blown calls on both sides.

[DrHouse]

Actually there were several Spur fans who literally said they would have to stop rooting for the Cavs after how bad the officiating was at one point.

I would say the momentum shifting calls all went the Cavs way. A block that should have been a charge while the Magic were trying to mount a comeback. A technical foul that should have been called that led to a Mo Williams 3. Plays like that occured all throughout the game.

[TheProfessor]

I just don't see the point. We can rail on and on about how the officiating is fixed this way or that, but the only way to protest, really protest, is to turn off your TV sets and not purchase anything associated with the NBA product. Officials make tons of mistakes because of the speed of the game, and are also swayed (often very swayed) by home crowds (excepting numerous complaints by Lakers' fans to the contrary this post-season). But that isn't going to change. If you buy into this whole "NBA conspiracy" thing, just turn off your TV's. Simple as that. Nothing will change if you watch every time just so you can cry, moan, and bitch on a messageboard.

[Indazone]

Cav's just getting reffed the way they are supposed to be reffed. Nothing suprising here. Orlando still owns home court advantage cause they stole a game from the Mistake by the Lake.

[Cry Havoc]

Actually there were several Spur fans who literally said they would have to stop rooting for the Cavs after how bad the officiating was at one point.

I would say the momentum shifting calls all went the Cavs way. A block that should have been a charge while the Magic were trying to mount a comeback. A technical foul that should have been called that led to a Mo Williams 3. Plays like that occured all throughout the game.

And you wonder how people can hate the Lakers. :lmao

[jmanu20]

It's not just Laker fans who were calling out the officiating in Game 2. It was Spur fans as well. Check the game thread.

Take your own advice there and learn to read a little bit better.

[jmanu20]

You gotta love how much vitriol flows from Lakers fans when they see the one player touted to be better than Kobe wins a close playoff game.

YEP! THE GAME WAS FIXED! That's why with less than a minute left and the game seemingly hanging in the balance, they whistled LeBron for a travel. Because they want the Cavs to win and will do anything to make that happen.

How easy would it have been for the official to swallow his whistle? Traveling calls are missed all the time in the NBA, and it would have just been passed off. Instead, they gave Orlando the ball.

Let's review:

The best defensive team in the league has played two home games against the premiere jumpshooting/3 point team in the league.

The Cavs have pushed out to huge leads in both games. They lost one game in which they shot THREE more freethrows and won a game in which they shot ONE more. They have shot 4 more freethrows in 2 home games than the Magic.

But no, you're right. The officials are completely biased.

I just hope someday you are on the receiving end of what it's like to be when the fix really IS in against your team, when the other team shoots 20+ more freethrows than your team. It shows just how pampered Lakers fans are that they think a game like last night was "horrible officiating".

No. Horrible officiating would have meant the Cavs shooting 35+ free throws last night and winning by 25.

:lmao @ Lakers fans. EVERYTHING is about you. The ECF isn't about Cavs vs. Magic, it's about proving how "fairly" Lakers playoff games have been officiated, which, for the record, is NOT just a "Laker hate" phenomenon. JJ Adande even stated that he worried about G7 of the Lakers-Rockets being fixed by officiating. You have to be the most insecure fanbase in all of sports. You guys make Yankee fans look positively philanthropic.

Excellent post CryHavoc. Laker fans love to ignore 2002 WCF vs the Kings, 0.4, and the no-call with Fisher and Barry. Every Laker fan thinks there is no conspiracy....DUH, because everything favors your team.

I agree about Laker fans being insecure, especially in regards to the Cavs....why do you think House is all over the Mo Williams/D12 thing? If that was Kobe throwing the ball at Melo he would find a way to say that not calling a technical would be the correct call.

[JoeTait75]

There just aren't many real basketball fans on this forum. A real basketball fan would simply appreciate the first two games of this series for what they were (and the first two games of the WCF as well.)

Hell, I have a dog in this hunt and I can still appreciate the way Orlando is playing in this series. They have a lot of talent and character a lot of us underestimated.

But Instead of appreciation, we get "Fuck the Cavaliers" "Fuck LeBron" "The game was fixed" "I hope LeBron gets injured" blah blah blah.

It's sad, really. I feel sorry for a lot of you. You're privileged to witness playoff basketball at the highest level and you're too blinded by hatred and bitterness to enjoy it.

Oh well.

[jag]

DrHouse is one annoying SOB.

[DrHouse]

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

I'll acknowledge that the refs finally started to call the game fairly in the final 5 minutes, but just about everything up until that point was what I would consider poor officiating that negatively effected the Magic more than the Cavs. But it makes no sense to belabor this anymore, you're not looking at the videos I'm posting and you're not refuting any of the plays I have called out that were questionable. You're just attacking me because of what happened in 2002 which has nothing to do with this.

At the end of the day the Magic have proven that they are simply a better team than the Cavs. They play as a team and win as a team. The Cavs are just a glorified one man show and the Magic defense has made all of LBJ's role players look rather ordinary.

Magic in 6.

[j.dizzle]

:lol Everybody needs to stop complaining about the refs cuz they aint gonna change. A couple blatant fouls were called giving Cle momentum but what are you gonna do? Just give props to Orl for coming back from 23 down on the road & almost winning the game if it werent for Lebrons amazing shot. I was hoping this series would go 6 or 7 games & now we know it will. :toast

[Allanon]

it's just because lakers are soft. Without ref help lakers will be 0 FTA every game

:lmao You crazy "foreigner"



j/k about foreigner, but you are crazy.:lol

[KidCongo]

Now the Cavs dilemma is find a way to slow down so many Orlando options, especially down the stretch...Think about it...In this series, the Cavs have led for 84 of the 96 total minutes..(that's 87 percent of the time) and most of that time, they've enjoyed double-digit leads....but the Magic are hitting 4th quarter clutch shots with stunning regularity to the tune of 68 percent in the 24:00 of 4th quarter basketball.

[ginobili's bald spot]

There just aren't many real basketball fans on this forum. A real basketball fan would simply appreciate the first two games of this series for what they were (and the first two games of the WCF as well.)

Hell, I have a dog in this hunt and I can still appreciate the way Orlando is playing in this series. They have a lot of talent and character a lot of us underestimated.

But Instead of appreciation, we get "Fuck the Cavaliers" "Fuck LeBron" "The game was fixed" "I hope LeBron gets injured" blah blah blah.

It's sad, really. I feel sorry for a lot of you. You're privileged to witness playoff basketball at the highest level and you're too blinded by hatred and bitterness to enjoy it.

Oh well.

This is so true. There are only a handful of knowledgeable posters on this board. The rest only know how to talk about conspiracy theories.

[iggypop123]

This is so true. There are only a handful of knowledgeable posters on this board. The rest only know how to talk about conspiracy theories.

haha like BRhornet and the "magnets" in lebrons ball

[Brazil]

:lmao You crazy "foreigner"



j/k about foreigner, but you are crazy.:lol

:lol you crazy 75 wins !