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jack sommerset
05-23-2009, 05:37 PM
Why doesn't every parent put their kid on birth control? The government should step in and make the kid get on some sort of birth control. Make it a law when the kid turns 13. When the kid is 18 they can do what ever they want.

Teen pregnancy is a problem. Making birth control a law would solve alot of problems and save the tax payers money. Also will help with all the abortions people are having. It's a simple solution. I say either a IUD or hormone shot. Of course every parent should show them what a sexual disease looks like. It will make u wear a condom, even discourage sex.

Bukefal
05-23-2009, 06:20 PM
Parents wont do that. They do not even want to think about their kids getting sexual active, even when they crossed the age of 18, lets not even think about putting them on birth control at 13...

ashbeeigh
05-23-2009, 06:25 PM
If it's your kid go right ahead.

But, if I raise my kids right (and I don't have kids and I don't plan on it in the near future) this won't be a problem. It's a moral issue for so many people. I understand your rant. It's lame shit that teen pregnancy is such a huge problem.

However, I wasn't one of those kids that needed to "be on birth control" and if the government said I had to be because "everyone was doing it" but I wasn't I would be seriously pissed the fuck off. Even if it did mean I didn't have nasty cramps.

Unless, you're going for the argument that "no sex" only sex education is lame..I agree 1000% because obviously not everyone is like me and the couple other people in the planet who didn't get laid in high school.

ashbeeigh
05-23-2009, 06:25 PM
double post.

Bukefal
05-23-2009, 06:34 PM
If it's your kid go right ahead.

But, if I raise my kids right (and I don't have kids and I don't plan on it in the near future) this won't be a problem.

That's just it. Most of the parents say for sure their kids wont do things like that and that it will not be necessary. They just dont believe this could happen to any of their kids. Thats why i think that parents wont do that. They dont want to think about it, and they dont want to believe that their kids also have a chance in having teen pregnancy just because they 'know' their kid wont do it.

MiamiHeat
05-23-2009, 06:39 PM
If you have a daughter, don't allow her to go to parties without you, don't allow them to go to the mall without you, don't allow them to have boys over in the house.

Problem solved.

Stop leaving your children unattended and maybe they won't get the chance to do this before 18.

ploto
05-23-2009, 06:45 PM
I wonder if you would be singing the same tune if the males had to be forced to ingest hormones that have side effects on their health.

Frenzy
05-23-2009, 07:10 PM
bring back the vaginalock

boutons_deux
05-23-2009, 07:16 PM
Pump hormones into young girls bodies? Great idea

The already get enough estrogen analogues from plastics and various endocrine disruptors.

Bukefal
05-23-2009, 07:33 PM
bring back the vaginalock

:lmao

BRHornet45
05-23-2009, 07:39 PM
sons I say boycott horseshit like MTV from your house until the kid is 18... oh and here is another idea ... don't be afraid to whip that ass every now and then and actually PUNISH your child.... and I don't mean just take away their cell phone at age 12.... lol kids with cell phones so young....fucking parents these days.... and they wonder why their kids are degenerates.

ORION
05-23-2009, 07:55 PM
If it's your kid go right ahead.

But, if I raise my kids right (and I don't have kids and I don't plan on it in the near future) this won't be a problem. It's a moral issue for so many people. I understand your rant. It's lame shit that teen pregnancy is such a huge problem.

However, I wasn't one of those kids that needed to "be on birth control" and if the government said I had to be because "everyone was doing it" but I wasn't I would be seriously pissed the fuck off. Even if it did mean I didn't have nasty cramps.

Unless, you're going for the argument that "no sex" only sex education is lame..I agree 1000% because obviously not everyone is like me and the couple other people in the planet who didn't get laid in high school.
I was laid many times in high school

ORION
05-23-2009, 07:56 PM
double post.

I double posted a lot in high school

Wild Cobra
05-23-2009, 08:05 PM
Why doesn't every parent put their kid on birth control?
Very simple. Birth control hormones fucks up a girls natural development. No teen should be on any chemical/hormone birth control until after she's well past puberty, and preferable after the first child.

desflood
05-23-2009, 08:52 PM
But, if I raise my kids right (and I don't have kids and I don't plan on it in the near future) this won't be a problem.


If you have a daughter, don't allow her to go to parties without you, don't allow them to go to the mall without you, don't allow them to have boys over in the house.

Problem solved.

Stop leaving your children unattended and maybe they won't get the chance to do this before 18.
Oh, I used to be this idealistic about my kids, too. Guys, I was raised "right" and my parents nearly always knew exactly where I was and who I was with -and I still managed to have sex way too early without my parents ever suspecting. If there's one thing I've wised up about in the past few years, it's that you can't afford to be naive about what your kids are currently doing or are going to do in the future.

TDMVPDPOY
05-23-2009, 09:48 PM
birth control, pull out when you get that tingling feeling and feeling weak in the knees....

jack sommerset
05-23-2009, 10:00 PM
Very simple. Birth control hormones fucks up a girls natural development. No teen should be on any chemical/hormone birth control until after she's well past puberty, and preferable after the first child.

True but there are all sorts of birth control you can try. IUD and hormone shots have the best stats. I would start with them. Someone said something about how I would feel if guys had to be on birth control.haha. Every guy I know or ever known would be thrilled if they had a pill or a shot to take.

My wife and I do a good job with our kid. She is 6 so I have along ways to go but if I am not breaking any laws I want to give her the shot in the arm. The one that works for 5 years. I'll give her that at age 13 and it will be easier for me to sleep at night. I am not worried now but who knows what crowd she will run with, what she will be like but I do know I hear about to much fucking and pregnant teens than I ever had. I graduated in 90 and only one girl was pregnant her senior year and she did not have the baby until fall after she graduated.

Wild Cobra
05-23-2009, 10:23 PM
I say raise them right. Instill responsibility in them in general. It will carry on into sexual activity as well. I think if you give such a shot, pills, etc, they will assume you are giving them, permission. Feeling safer, they may skip protection like condoms and catch an STD. Maybe Herpes, or worse yet, AIDS!

Responsibility is key. Had no worries with my daughters. They are now 24 and 21.

Jekka
05-23-2009, 11:27 PM
True but there are all sorts of birth control you can try. IUD and hormone shots have the best stats. I would start with them.

Very few doctors will put an IUD in a woman who has never carried a child because it's easier for the device to dislodge. Also, any complications with IUDs (dislodging, infection, etc) can mean that a girl is stuck with pelvic inflammatory disease for the rest of her life. If a copper IUD is used and the girl has a nickel allergy (extremely common) then allergic reactions and inflammation can ensue.

The shot has its own set of complications, and you can't make a hormonal device mandatory because there are too many people who experience adverse affects with them. Anyone with undiagnosed blood or clotting disorders could be putting their lives in danger by getting on them - one of my friends almost died on the pill when she developed blood clots in her lungs due to an undiagnosed blood disorder.

It's a pretty ridiculous suggestion to make birth control mandatory - I understand the sentiment behind it, but that is not the answer.

MiamiHeat
05-24-2009, 12:05 AM
the real question is

since when did it become OK for young teenagers to have sex?

the country's cultural standards are going down the shithole.

ploto
05-24-2009, 12:37 AM
Every guy I know or ever known would be thrilled if they had a pill or a shot to take.

You really want a pill that lowers your sex drive?

Bukefal
05-24-2009, 05:58 AM
Oh, I used to be this idealistic about my kids, too. Guys, I was raised "right" and my parents nearly always knew exactly where I was and who I was with -and I still managed to have sex way too early without my parents ever suspecting. If there's one thing I've wised up about in the past few years, it's that you can't afford to be naive about what your kids are currently doing or are going to do in the future.

exactly

MaNuMaNiAc
05-24-2009, 06:10 AM
My wife and I do a good job with our kid. She is 6 so I have along ways to go but if I am not breaking any laws I want to give her the shot in the arm. The one that works for 5 years. I'll give her that at age 13 and it will be easier for me to sleep at night. I am not worried now but who knows what crowd she will run with, what she will be like but I do know I hear about to much fucking and pregnant teens than I ever had. I graduated in 90 and only one girl was pregnant her senior year and she did not have the baby until fall after she graduated.


If you have a daughter, don't allow her to go to parties without you, don't allow them to go to the mall without you, don't allow them to have boys over in the house.

Problem solved.

Stop leaving your children unattended and maybe they won't get the chance to do this before 18.

pfff

Jesus fucking Christ! there are some neanderthal, ignorant motherfuckers posting in this thread. I feel sorry for your daughters.

Then again, it is jack sommerset and miamiheat we're talking about...

jack sommerset
05-24-2009, 08:13 AM
pfff

Jesus fucking Christ! there are some neanderthal, ignorant motherfuckers posting in this thread. I feel sorry for your daughters.

Then again, it is jack sommerset and miamiheat we're talking about...

You should pick another thread to come after me. I'm talking about preventing 13-14-15-16-17 year old girls getting pregnant. Talking about it doesn't stop it. It certainly helps. The U.S has the highest percentage of teenage pregnancies when compared to other counties of similar status. 40 teens out of a 1000 get pregnant. These teens generally donot finish High School. That usually means welfare. These babies grow up in poverty and donot have the healthcare a child should have. There are approximately 700 kids a day in our country having abortions. I am on the fence when it comes to abortions. I believe in womens right to choose but the older I get it sickens me to think a baby is killed before it even has a chance. Feel sorry for yourself you stupid fuck. Ignorant parents say " my kid knows better" or just don't give a damn. Neither of which I do.

exstatic
05-24-2009, 10:25 AM
the real question is

since when did it become OK for young teenagers to have sex?

the country's cultural standards are going down the shithole.

Forty years ago? Yeah, that's it. 1969, the summer of love.

Wild Cobra
05-24-2009, 10:49 AM
It's a pretty ridiculous suggestion to make birth control mandatory - I understand the sentiment behind it, but that is not the answer.
I agree.

Problem is, too many people, and often a majority, want policies that they don't understand. I find it irresponsible to advocate policies that one is ignorant of the side effects!

Stupid thread!

Wanting to enforce responsibility, but being irresponsible...

Wild Cobra
05-24-2009, 10:52 AM
You should pick another thread to come after me. I'm talking about preventing 13-14-15-16-17 year old girls getting pregnant. Talking about it doesn't stop it. It certainly helps. The U.S has the highest percentage of teenage pregnancies when compared to other counties of similar status. 40 teens out of a 1000 get pregnant. These teens generally donot finish High School. That usually means welfare. These babies grow up in poverty and donot have the healthcare a child should have. There are approximately 700 kids a day in our country having abortions. I am on the fence when it comes to abortions. I believe in womens right to choose but the older I get it sickens me to think a baby is killed before it even has a chance. Feel sorry for yourself you stupid fuck. Ignorant parents say " my kid knows better" or just don't give a damn. Neither of which I do.
Treat the root problem, not the symptom. This nation has had degrading moral values for years. That is what needs fixing.

jack sommerset
05-24-2009, 01:13 PM
I agree.

Problem is, too many people, and often a majority, want policies that they don't understand. I find it irresponsible to advocate policies that one is ignorant of the side effects!

Stupid thread!

Wanting to enforce responsibility, but being irresponsible...

That's our society. The responsible ones are paying for the irresponsible ones so we should have a say. If scientist develope a perfect birth control method with no chance of any side effects would you consider all teens being on it?

David Bowie
05-24-2009, 01:23 PM
Birth Control can have bad side effects. A lot of people I know who take it have had their blood pressure go up (which is a possible side effect of birth control). Since everyone in my family has high blood pressure, I am obviously not going to use birth control. I think that parents should start talking to kids early enough about protections and birth control options. Nobody can be forced to use to use a certain type of birth control when htere are so many out there these days.

Wild Cobra
05-24-2009, 07:26 PM
That's our society. The responsible ones are paying for the irresponsible ones so we should have a say. If scientist develope a perfect birth control method with no chance of any side effects would you consider all teens being on it?
No. Never in a wholesale fashion. Problem is, you are either telling your children "I don't trust you" or telling them "go ahead now, you're safe."

Isn't part of teaching trust, using trust? Aren't some of the best lessons taught by having to live with the burden?

jack sommerset
05-24-2009, 08:09 PM
No. Never in a wholesale fashion. Problem is, you are either telling your children "I don't trust you" or telling them "go ahead now, you're safe."

Isn't part of teaching trust, using trust? Aren't some of the best lessons taught by having to live with the burden?

Of course but that doesn't happen to every person. We our killing over 36,000 babies every year by giving teens abortions in our country. Again I am on the fence about this but no one can convince me from the time of conception that is not a baby growing in the womb. Talk about it and get the teen birth control.

As for my child I am saying "don't have sex" and "shit happens" If scientist figured out away to have a safe birth control with zero chance at side effects wouldn't you consider giving every teen it.

MiamiHeat
05-24-2009, 08:43 PM
Of course but that doesn't happen to every person. We our killing over 36,000 babies every year by giving teens abortions in our country. Again I am on the fence about this but no one can convince me from the time of conception that is not a baby growing in the womb. Talk about it and get the teen birth control.

As for my child I am saying "don't have sex" and "shit happens" If scientist figured out away to have a safe birth control with zero chance at side effects wouldn't you consider giving every teen it.

No, because they shouldn't be having sex so young.

mavs>spurs2
05-24-2009, 08:54 PM
No, because they shouldn't be having sex so young.

What do you consider young? I believe at 17 you're eligible for the death penalty and have to choice of dropping out of school..18 you can die for your country..if I'm 17 years old and I want some pussy no one has the right to stop me.

jack sommerset
05-24-2009, 09:02 PM
No, because they shouldn't be having sex so young.

Yup but thats not stopping everyone. Get this fucked up shit A few months ago a friend of ours who teaches elementary caught two 3rd grade boys sucking each other cocks in the bathroom. Fucking 3rd grade boys!! They did get suspended. I did not ask how long but how would you as a parent handle that phone call. " Um Mr Heat, your 3rd grade son was blowing another 3rd grade boy in the bathroom and we have no chioce but to suspend him." Kids fuck, in this case it was two boys but you get the point!

Drachen
05-24-2009, 09:31 PM
birth control, pull out when you get that tingling feeling and feeling weak in the knees....

Ahh the "coitus interuptus" method. (Yes there is an actual name)

MiamiHeat
05-24-2009, 10:05 PM
What do you consider young? I believe at 17 you're eligible for the death penalty and have to choice of dropping out of school..18 you can die for your country..if I'm 17 years old and I want some pussy no one has the right to stop me.

17 is OK for me

16 is borderline, depends on the person but generally not ok

13,14,15 is not ok

MiamiHeat
05-24-2009, 10:08 PM
Yup but thats not stopping everyone. Get this fucked up shit A few months ago a friend of ours who teaches elementary caught two 3rd grade boys sucking each other cocks in the bathroom. Fucking 3rd grade boys!! They did get suspended. I did not ask how long but how would you as a parent handle that phone call. " Um Mr Heat, your 3rd grade son was blowing another 3rd grade boy in the bathroom and we have no chioce but to suspend him." Kids fuck, in this case it was two boys but you get the point!

wow that's bad. yeah I get your point. it is a good one

I think the problem rests with exposure. kids spending free time on the internet where they can see all the XXX porn that would make our grandmother's blush.

they get exposed to it and obviously they copy it. our society is going down the shithole with 'sexual freedom' crap on the television like MTV and junk. they can talk about blowjobs, 69's, etc on regular tv

mavs>spurs2
05-24-2009, 10:22 PM
17 is OK for me

16 is borderline, depends on the person but generally not ok

13,14,15 is not ok

:tu Agreed

baseline bum
05-24-2009, 10:42 PM
Treat the root problem, not the symptom. This nation has had degrading moral values for years. That is what needs fixing.

A guy dating a stripper is going to get on his high horse and bitch about other peoples' sexual morals?

Wild Cobra
05-25-2009, 12:09 AM
A guy dating a stripper is going to get on his high horse and bitch about other peoples' sexual morals?

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/People/baselinebum.jpg
You know, I had a few long paragraphs that I just erased. I'll leave it at this...

Are you a faggot? Don't you like watching graceful, beautiful women, with little to no clothes?

I am so fucking tired of lowlifes like you, Clambake, and others needlessly attacking, just to attack. This is not longer grade school.

Wait... maybe you are in the first grade... I don't know.

baseline bum
05-25-2009, 02:12 AM
You know, I had a few long paragraphs that I just erased. I'll leave it at this...

Are you a faggot? Don't you like watching graceful, beautiful women, with little to no clothes?

I am so fucking tired of lowlifes like you, Clambake, and others needlessly attacking, just to attack. This is not longer grade school.

Wait... maybe you are in the first grade... I don't know.

I'm not attacking to attack; I'm calling you out as a fucking hypocrite. I like strip clubs too; I think there's nothing wrong with people wanting to go and fuck. Yet you somehow have a problem with that in your whining about our allegedly decaying moral values. On one hand you demonize sex and on the other you brag about your stripper conquests; it's lame as hell to pull the 'do as I say and not as I do' card.

braeden0613
05-25-2009, 02:38 AM
Sterilizing girls in families that make less than 100k a year sounds like a better idea. Why is this thread even taken seriously?

MiamiHeat
05-25-2009, 03:08 AM
I'm not attacking to attack; I'm calling you out as a fucking hypocrite. I like strip clubs too; I think there's nothing wrong with people wanting to go and fuck. Yet you somehow have a problem with that in your whining about our allegedly decaying moral values. On one hand you demonize sex and on the other you brag about your stripper conquests; it's lame as hell to pull the 'do as I say and not as I do' card.

demonize UNDER AGE sex

not sex between strippers and adults. female adult entertainment is one of the oldest professions on planet earth. how could he be talking about 'degrading moral values' when this sort of thing has been going on everywhere for a long time?

nice try :P

Wild Cobra
05-25-2009, 07:36 AM
I'm not attacking to attack; I'm calling you out as a fucking hypocrite. I like strip clubs too; I think there's nothing wrong with people wanting to go and fuck. Yet you somehow have a problem with that in your whining about our allegedly decaying moral values. On one hand you demonize sex and on the other you brag about your stripper conquests; it's lame as hell to pull the 'do as I say and not as I do' card.
Look, I know you're jealous that I like women instead and that I won't let you suck my dick. Can we stick at the topic at hand?

I don't demonize sex. I don't brag about dancers. I make a post that I understand certain things and you get your panties in a wad.

Why don't you mind your own business?

jack sommerset
05-25-2009, 09:13 AM
I bet his stripper is on birth control.

Yuixafun
05-25-2009, 12:12 PM
Man vs Nature, nature's gonna win unless we blow up the planet first.

Giving every girl birth control is a foolish idea. Because it removes consequence, using your own judgment. You won't have to think, weigh, consider.
What's to say this won't be a reason for them to have sex more frequently and with many more partners?

Ah girl you're so pretty it's okay, you can't get pregnant right?
We don't need a condom, I want to feel you papi, I can't have a baby.
We as culture created this climate, this false world of what life could be, where girls are damned and used for their sexuality.

You don't want teens having sex, then teach them, build them up.

Show an interest in a girls welfare instead of just her body.

Teach boys to be gentlemen, not thugs and gangsters.

Seems to me that unilaterally enforcing birth control for teens goes against nature and is a social issue, and society is made up of individuals with different value systems.
Why else would humans be capable of having children at such an early age?

For a young girl who has not had a chance to mature more than on a physical level, this obviously retards her growth personally. Instead of spending her time learning about herself and life whereas she only has herself to think of, now she is responsible for the care of another, that came directly from her body.

I would not want my daughter having to go through this. I can't even begin to fathom such an intimate relation at a period in my life where I am transitioning from being oblivious to the world to realizing that I have an identity and the dawning of the magnitude of existence.

Throw in the general awkwardness created by society, from classmates to images, to love or the lack of it from parents, and people are in such a vulnerable state.

I live in San Antonio I see so many girls already with that light snuffed out in their eyes and it breaks my heart I don't know, because they are already wise to men, they move timid and shy, almost apologetic they have had a baby, shamed for something that should be a joy, and some are so exceptionally attractive that I have thoughts that are baser and that's the nature in me conflicting with nobler ideals, then I get angry at unseen guy who did this to her, because he couldn't control his hunger and mad at her because she wasn't strong enough, and she's the one that takes the brunt of the suffering.

It sounds so simple, but if we just treated each other better so much suffering in the world would disappear.

I'm not sure man as a race is built like that.

But one day nature will produce someone like that again.

baseline bum
05-25-2009, 12:23 PM
I don't demonize sex.


Then what the fuck do you mean talking about our alleged degrading moral values with respect to teen pregnancy? How are you not demonizing sex? You're just a douchebag looking down on people who want the same fucking thing you want.

clambake
05-25-2009, 02:32 PM
I am so fucking tired of lowlifes like you, Clambake, and others needlessly attacking, just to attack.

:lmao it's because you reveal yourself in nearly every post.

you bitch about people on welfare.....AND YOU WERE RAISED ON WELFARE.

:lmao you start a thread basically asking what's wrong with stalking women on the internet.

:bang you rejoiced when soldiers that opposed the war were killed.

:lol you spend all your time and money in strip joints, and take the pictures to prove it.

:downspin: and your ex-wife HAS to be the happiest person alive.

Wild Cobra
05-25-2009, 08:13 PM
Then what the fuck do you mean talking about our alleged degrading moral values with respect to teen pregnancy? How are you not demonizing sex? You're just a douchebag looking down on people who want the same fucking thing you want.
I guess you don't understand "age appropriate."