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duncan228
05-26-2009, 12:32 AM
Edit: Updated.

Jackson calls Nuggets guard `unsportsmanlike’ (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-lakers-tripping&prov=ap&type=lgns)
By Eddie Pells

Lakers coach Phil Jackson accused Nuggets guard Dahntay Jones of playing “unsportsmanlike basketball” by intentionally tripping Kobe Bryant during Game 4 of the Western Conference finals Monday night.

Jackson’s rip on Jones came after Los Angeles fell 120-101 to Denver to tie the series at 2. He became the second coach to call Jones dirty during the playoffs, joining Byron Scott of the Hornets, who said the same thing in the first round.

Jackson criticized Jones at the end of a rant about what he said was inconsistent officiating that resulted in Denver taking 49 free throws - 14 more than the Lakers.

“There’s another situation out there tonight that was unacceptable by Dahntay Jones,” Jackson said. “Just unacceptable defense, tripping guys and playing unsportsmanlike basketball.”

Asked if he felt Jones went out of his way to trip Bryant during a sequence late in the third quarter that, oddly enough, ended up with Jones getting fouled, Jackson replied: “Yes. It’s not the first time it’s happened in this series.”

Bryant kept things light when asked if Jones tried to trip him.

“I just fell on my face for no reason,” he said. “I’m a klutz.”

Was Jones playing him dirty?

“Good defense,” Bryant said.

Jones, a defensive specialist who starts for the Nuggets, has been charged with hounding Bryant at the start of the first and third quarters. In Game 2, he had five fouls by the middle of the third quarter.

He said he wasn’t bothered by Jackson calling him dirty.

“Just playing hard,” Jones said. “If he can’t respect it, I’m sorry. I’m trying to be aggressive and give it all I have out there. My teammates appreciate it.”

Especially Kenyon Martin, who sometimes gets accused of crossing the line.

“Hey Tay, you made it, dog,” Martin said when told about Jackson’s comments. “You’re a dirty player now. Welcome. It’s an elite club being considered one of those.”

In the first round of the playoffs, Scott was upset with the way Jones guarded Chris Paul.

“I can appreciate anybody that plays hard, but when you get to the point where you’re being a little dirty, that’s the thing that kind of aggravates me,” Scott said.

The Jones-Bryant tangle was only one of Jackson’s issues after Monday’s game.

He let the refs know he was mad by refusing to quickly insert a replacement for Luke Walton after Walton fouled out with 4:05 left. Refs hit the Lakers with a delay-of-game warning, then Jackson brought in Shannon Brown.

The coach was upset with a sequence during which Walton got a technical after arguing a no-call against Nene, who appeared to have elbowed Walton as he was cutting across the middle. Walton picked up four personal fouls over the next 4:25.

“The referee gave him a technical then subsequently gave him three consecutive fouls out on the floor,” Jackson said. “That kind of disparity we don’t like in ballgames. That’s not equal refereeing and those are the things that change the course of games.”

Nuggets coach George Karl complained about the whistle after Game 3, a 103-97 Lakers win. The Lakers shot 14 more free throws in that game.

The teams have combined for 160 free throws in the two games at the Pepsi Center - 80 apiece.

IronMexican
05-26-2009, 12:34 AM
It was a dirty move.

Spursfan092120
05-26-2009, 12:36 AM
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Yeah..ok Phil and Kobe...keep tell yourselves that.

Artest93
05-26-2009, 12:37 AM
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Ghazi
05-26-2009, 12:37 AM
two wrongs dont make a right!

Artest93
05-26-2009, 12:37 AM
STFU Phil, give them some f****** credit

JustBlaze
05-26-2009, 12:37 AM
It was a dirty move.
That's not how Kobe feels about it.

Jacko
05-26-2009, 12:48 AM
He's going to get suspended for Game 5 by the league because of his prior flagrant foul where he pushed Kobe in the back as he was airborne.

Really a stupid play by a stupid player playing for a stupid team. It was a clear trip on his end and he will be punished for it accordingly like Fisher was for his foul.

Artest93
05-26-2009, 12:49 AM
Fisher saw scola coming and loaded up anyway, I had no idea that tripping someone is worse than tryin to crack someone's sternum

IronMexican
05-26-2009, 12:50 AM
Fisher saw scola coming and loaded up anyway, I had no idea that tripping someone is worse than tryin to crack someone's sternum

And Fisher got suspended.

Artest93
05-26-2009, 12:53 AM
so comparing the two is pointless, tripping happens all the time in the game

IronMexican
05-26-2009, 12:55 AM
Then why are you comparing them? You're the one who brought up the whole Fisher thing..



Edit:mentioned wrong thing.

spurscenter
05-26-2009, 01:00 AM
Fuck Kobe Bryant and the Lakers, they get away with so much.

Jones was tired out there and that was sloppy defense, it was instinct since he was too tired/fatigued to shuffle his feet, he just tripped him, it was wrong. Completely wrong but it wasn't pre planned before the game that he was going to do that. He was exhausted and didnt shuffle his feet, got beat and his mind out of instinct told him to raise his foot and tripped him. it was out of fatigue. it was wrong but Laker fans make it seem like he should be suspended for life.

Just turn it on Kobe tripping someone and all would say, "that was a smart veteran move by a superstar"

Like mentioned by others, when the Lakers do dirty shit, its always, "THATS PART OF THE GAME" "HE IS A VETERAN"

Shut the fuck up with that b.s.

Kobe pulls shorts and pushes off all the fucking time.

It's like the media all over Obama, he can never do wrong but when a Democrat does something wrong, "oh its Bush's fault" ,

same shit with the TV networks and Kobe/Lakers. All they care about is top TV markets because it's their bread and butter.

Fuck the Lakers and their bitchy neurotic fans and paid off broadcasters.

Im sure, when the Lakers lose a game, LAPD is busy answering a bunch of domestic violence reports.

lil_penny
05-26-2009, 01:01 AM
Dohntay jones is a giant douche.. he's a dirty ass mofo and has been for sometime, its just taking some dirty moves on kobe in game 4 to people to see this? Plus I hate the smirk he always has..

IronMexican
05-26-2009, 01:03 AM
Then why are you comparing them? You're the one who brought up the whole Fisher thing..



Edit:mentioned wrong thing.

:wakeup

TheMACHINE
05-26-2009, 01:04 AM
thanks for the videos of the dirty plays the Lakers do...that just proves that Jones will get suspended.

JustBlaze
05-26-2009, 01:05 AM
Fisher got suspended for how many games again? If tripping someone warrants a suspension, then the shit Fisher pulled on Scola deserved a lot more than 1.

Obstructed_View
05-26-2009, 01:05 AM
Lakers better be lobbying for a suspension. It's the only chance they have.

JustBlaze
05-26-2009, 01:11 AM
Lakers better be lobbying for a suspension. It's the only chance they have.
That would mean more playing time for JR and god forbid, Anthony Carter. Sheeet son!

Jacko
05-26-2009, 01:11 AM
If the Nuggets are going to play stupid and give this series away what do you expect the Lakers to do?

ManuTim_best of Fwiendz
05-26-2009, 01:17 AM
I WANT to laugh and look the other way because it's Kobe being tripped..

but based on principle, (unfortunately) players health/well being should be protected....that second trip was too obvious...dirty plays are dirty plays

Phil Jackson is a hypocrite though, Kobe and Fisher' do cheapshots all the time, and at players throats! and sternums!! :bang
But he's sitting on the sidelines grimmacing at their "sportsman-like" conduct when the dirty plays are done to the other team's players.

Anyway,
I don't know who this Dayntay Jones is, but if he's a dirty player he should be reproached.

who needs a guy who might do the same to our teams and players who actually don't deserve the dirty play, unlike Kobe?

Jacko
05-26-2009, 01:18 AM
Fisher got suspended for what he did. You are acting like nothing came out of it.

Obstructed_View
05-26-2009, 01:21 AM
At worst Jones gets a fine, which would be wrong, but not unexpected from the knee-jerks in the NBA front office. There's no way that is suspension worthy. You grab a guy who gets away from you and sometimes you don't get whistled for it. This isn't any different.

JustBlaze
05-26-2009, 01:24 AM
I WANT to laugh and look the other way because it's Kobe being tripped..

but based on principle, (unfortunately) players health/well being should be protected....that second trip was too obvious...dirty plays are dirty plays

Phil Jackson is a hypocrite though, Kobe and Fisher' do cheapshots all the time, and at players throats! and sternums!! :bang
But he's sitting on the sidelines grimmacing at their "sportsman-like" conduct when the dirty plays are done to the other team's players.

Anyway,
I don't know who this Dayntay Jones is, but if he's a dirty player he should be reproached.

who needs a guy who might do the same to our teams and players who actually don't deserve the dirty play, unlike Kobe?
He's been doing that shit all season long. I'm sure he has "inadvertently" tripped CP3 at least once every game in the playoffs.:lol

RedsLakers24
05-26-2009, 01:25 AM
its not that this was a suspension worthy foul, but the game before he almost hurt kobe also by pushing him while in the air, so two dirty plays might warrant a suspension, and why the hell was bynum call for a Flagrant?

duncan228
05-26-2009, 01:27 AM
Article is updated in first post.

iggypop123
05-26-2009, 01:28 AM
he will get suspended not because the trip warrants a suspension cause its a flagrant which then will get adds to his other flagrant which means suspension points

E20
05-26-2009, 01:28 AM
Well that's funny, because Phil Jackson is the epitome of a poor sport.

Obstructed_View
05-26-2009, 01:31 AM
Jones was given a flagrant by the league office. Therefore he's been punished for the push.

If you have to ask why Bynum's foul was a flagrant, then there's not much point trying to have a conversation.

When Kobe hit Kyle Korver in the face with his elbow one game after serving a suspension for hitting Marko Jaric in the face, he wasn't suspended. I don't even think he was whistled for a foul during the game.

RedsLakers24
05-26-2009, 01:33 AM
Jones was given a flagrant by the league office. Therefore he's been punished for the push.

If you have to ask why Bynum's foul was a flagrant, then there's not much point trying to have a conversation.

When Kobe hit Kyle Korver in the face with his elbow one game after serving a suspension for hitting Marko Jaric in the face, he wasn't suspended. I don't even think he was whistled for a foul during the game.

Bynum got the ball, a flagrant is not going for the ball dumbass

Kindergarten Cop
05-26-2009, 01:39 AM
Bynum got the ball, a flagrant is not going for the ball dumbass

You honestly don't feel that coming down with both arms across a man's face - and THEN getting the ball in the closing minutes of a game that you are getting blown out in is worthy of a flagrant?

RedsLakers24
05-26-2009, 01:41 AM
You honestly don't feel that coming down with both arms across a man's face - and THEN getting the ball in the closing minutes of a game that you are getting blown out in is worthy of a flagrant?

It was a foul cuz he manage to hit him in the face but not hard, it barely got him in the face, if you look at the force Bynum came down with, and if he connected hard he would have been Knock down

Obstructed_View
05-26-2009, 02:52 AM
Bynum got the ball, a flagrant is not going for the ball dumbass

As I mentioned elsewhere, there's no mention of that in the rulebook. If there were then it would have been impossible for the refs to charge Anthony Johnson for a flagrant when he elbowed his defender after being fouled.

Section IV--Flagrant Foul
a. If contact committed against a player, with or without the ball, is interpreted to be unnecessary, a flagrant foul--penalty (1) will be assessed.

Dumbass.

MI21
05-26-2009, 03:18 AM
Classic Phil Jackson.

I've seen this game before. Lakers get out to a nice handy lead early second quarter in LA with a Denver big and a Denver perimeter player in foul trouble. Denver can just never quite get back into the game from there.

Lakers by 19.

siopaoboi
05-26-2009, 03:22 AM
i dont see how the trip was so much "unsportsmanlike/flagrant" as compared to what bynum did to gerald wallace (that resulted in a collapse lung, and forgot if it resulted in fractured ribs too) that didnt even merit a suspension from the league office. of yeah, they're the lakers, we can't mess with them and we're just supposed to fall down and die cause they are the annointed one to get to the finals. :baby

Obstructed_View
05-26-2009, 03:28 AM
i dont see how the trip was so much "unsportsmanlike/flagrant" as compared to what bynum did to gerald wallace (that resulted in a collapse lung, and forgot if it resulted in fractured ribs too) that didnt even merit a suspension from the league office.

Simple: The trip was done to Kobe. Mandatory suspension according to Lakerfan.

siopaoboi
05-26-2009, 03:35 AM
Simple: The trip was done to Kobe. Mandatory suspension according to Lakerfan.

you make perfect sense! maybe if it was done on mbenga, they would call for a pinch on the butt as punishment. :lol

DPG21920
05-26-2009, 10:43 AM
I love how the writer owns Phil at the end: Phil complaining about FT's, the teams have shot a combined 160 FT's, 80 apiece. Owned.

Just like Ron Jeremy complaining about Lebron when Dwight almost shoots just as many and his team shoots more.

Jacko
05-26-2009, 11:05 AM
This is all strategy by Phil.

He pulls the ref card at least once in the playoffs and it usually works out pretty well.

stretch
05-26-2009, 11:05 AM
Jones is a cheap defender. I remember him trying to trip Dirk quite a few times as well, and constantly getting away with using double arm-bars against Dirk when getting posted up.

peacemaker885
05-26-2009, 11:06 AM
To Kobe's credit, he can take physical defense. He can dish them out, yes, but I don't see him complain much when it happens to him

TampaDude
05-26-2009, 11:47 AM
To Kobe's credit, he can take physical defense. He can dish them out, yes, but I don't see him complain much when it happens to him

+1 Kobe is a balla...he knows it's a man's game.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
05-26-2009, 12:04 PM
To Kobe's credit, he can take physical defense. He can dish them out, yes, but I don't see him complain much when it happens to him


The last time he complained about physical defense his team blew a 3-1 series lead. I'd say you probably learn your lesson after that.

Ghazi
05-26-2009, 12:14 PM
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