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trajik dark
05-26-2009, 02:08 AM
we need a sg that can dribble,dunk,and also play d tony allen will be perfect for his spot

tp2021
05-26-2009, 02:11 AM
please don't go starting a shitload of threads

Ditty
05-26-2009, 02:11 AM
we need a sg that can dribble,dunk,and also play d tony allen will be perfect for his spot

:pctossallen>mason

trajik dark
05-26-2009, 02:17 AM
please don't go starting a shitload of threadsjust wait got 2more cumin short dick

trajik dark
05-26-2009, 03:10 AM
we played close games all year winning wit offense its tyme 2 get back to playing defense trade mason no dribbling ass cant finish a fast break ass cause he is to slow ass for someone who can defend and at least give us ten points a game cause mason went scoreless twice against dallas in the playoffs

Stringer_Bell
05-26-2009, 06:13 AM
More like "why we should not let people with less than 100 posts start topics"

But I agree about winning close games all year with offense, would be better with stops.

AusSpursFan
05-26-2009, 06:41 AM
I personally prefer Hill to either of them.

Rogue
05-26-2009, 08:41 AM
we need a sg that can dribble,dunk,and also play d tony allen will be perfect for his spot
Other than the dunking work, Tony Allen doesn't do any job better over Mason. Mason might have the best dribbling skills in the group of shooting guards, and his defensive level is also above TA's by tens of feet. Even though his name is Tony Allen, he is not even half as good as either Ray Allen or Tony Longoria.

freemeat
05-26-2009, 08:59 AM
I personally prefer Hill to either of them.

:tu

Twisted_Dawg
05-26-2009, 09:02 AM
Other than the dunking work, Tony Allen doesn't do any job better over Mason. Mason might have the best dribbling skills in the group of shooting guards, and his defensive level is also above TA's by tens of feet. Even though his name is Tony Allen, he is not even half as good as either Ray Allen or Tony Longoria.

Rogue,

Who is the female in your sig?

Texas_Ranger
05-26-2009, 09:24 AM
Rogue,

Who is the female in your sig?

Thats Becky Hammon.:king

poop
05-26-2009, 12:24 PM
we should certainly shop him around as trade bait and see if we can possibly get a good deal involving him.

he does ONLY ONE thing, and that is shoot spot up 3's. if we can get a decent slasher who can get to the rim for him, DO IT.

Muser
05-26-2009, 01:30 PM
Mason is a legit SG who's pros outweigh cons IMO, what we need is one more slasher at the 3 who can open the court more to allow Mason more open looks.

HarlemHeat37
05-26-2009, 01:34 PM
Apparently a lot of people don't understand how the Spurs system works..we need role playing shooters like Mason, he's one of the best shooters in the NBA..

the SF position should be our slasher..

Mason was clearly playing very well for us until the PG experiment..it wasn't a coincidence..

chrisattsu
05-26-2009, 01:36 PM
Other than the dunking work, Tony Allen doesn't do any job better over Mason. Mason might have the best dribbling skills in the group of shooting guards, and his defensive level is also above TA's by tens of feet. Even though his name is Tony Allen, he is not even half as good as either Ray Allen or Tony Longoria.

Rouge,

I love your photoshopping skills. Becky is chucking the deuce, and you chopped off the index finger. Gotta fix the discoloration halo. Dead give away.

Muser
05-26-2009, 01:38 PM
Apparently a lot of people don't understand how the Spurs system works..we need role playing shooters like Mason, he's one of the best shooters in the NBA..

the SF position should be our slasher..

Mason was clearly playing very well for us until the PG experiment..it wasn't a coincidence..

:tu

Agrred with everything.

manufan10
05-26-2009, 01:54 PM
apparently a lot of people don't understand how the spurs system works..we need role playing shooters like mason, he's one of the best shooters in the nba..

The sf position should be our slasher..

Mason was clearly playing very well for us until the pg experiment..it wasn't a coincidence..

+1

Taking it to the Hole
05-26-2009, 03:21 PM
Obviously some people are forgetting all the games Mason won for us this past season with his "boring" shooting. :rolleyes The guy is clutch, he just didn't have a good playoff outing, but he has exceeded my expectations since we acquired him and I think he won't have to carry as much as a load as he did early this past season. He is a shooting guard, people shouldn't expect him to have mad, crazy ball handling skills. geez.

Mark in Austin
05-26-2009, 03:26 PM
If Pop continues to play him as a backup PG, then by all means trade him. If they play him at his natural position, he's one of the most valuable bench players in the League.

DPG21920
05-26-2009, 03:40 PM
This makes me miss poop threads.

xellos88330
05-26-2009, 05:36 PM
Mason is a legit SG who's pros outweigh cons IMO, what we need is one more slasher at the 3 who can open the court more to allow Mason more open looks.

I agree with this whole heartedly. When Mason is on the floor, you need a slasher aside from the PG position. That could really frustrate defenses.

Not quite sold yet on his defense. Maybe we can see it next year if he remains.

thekingrobert
05-26-2009, 06:34 PM
i miss brent barry

trajik dark
05-26-2009, 06:37 PM
i miss brent barrylol you funny

angelbelow
05-26-2009, 06:41 PM
no, not tony allen. i agree with you though. fin and mason are the same type of player so it would be nice if we could throw another type of sg at the other teams defense.

DPG21920
05-26-2009, 06:50 PM
Once and for all, lets simplify all of the repeating of ideas and thoughts.

For the Spurs:

Anyone on the team is open for trade except for Duncan because the goal is to get another ring out of him before he retires in 2012. If the right deal comes along, that puts this team in a better spot to contend the Spurs would look at it.

The key is to see what makes sense and to recognize that some deals would be more complicated, but that depends on the player (TP would require more for the Spurs to trade him than Mason...)

Trading for players that help in the future are out because the Spurs are in win now mode. I am not saying the Spurs will only sign vets, but I mean they are not focusing on rebuilding from scratch right now and if a player they sign can help them win now, winning in the future is secondary.

Making lateral moves is out. Making moves that significantly increase payroll are out unless a rare deal comes along and you get gifted a super star that is worth the money. The FO will not take on a lot more money to make the team a little bit better.

Look at why both teams would do a deal in the trade. Use logic and the rules and regulations of the CBA.

rayray2k8
05-26-2009, 07:04 PM
Stop posting noob.

SouthTexasRancher
05-26-2009, 10:26 PM
please don't go starting a shitload of threads

AMEN!!! The nerwbies show up and the next thing you know is we have 500 new threads of 500 other threads where we've gone over the same stuff many times before. I don't know why they can't do just a smidgen of searching.

SouthTexasRancher
05-26-2009, 10:31 PM
i miss brent barry


And Chris Duell of ESPN 1250 The Zone misses Erin Barry!


And I miss Yvonne Wheeler

http://www.chrisandjasonshow.com/images/yvonnewheeler_ayjd.jpg

BlackBellamy
05-27-2009, 10:16 AM
we need a sg that can dribble,dunk,and also play d tony allen will be perfect for his spot

Uhh... George Hill is a 2 guard. So, done and done and you're done. Tony Allen :lol...Pfffft.

spurspokesman
05-27-2009, 10:26 AM
Apparently a lot of people don't understand how the Spurs system works..we need role playing shooters like Mason, he's one of the best shooters in the NBA..

the SF position should be our slasher..

Mason was clearly playing very well for us until the PG experiment..it wasn't a coincidence..
:toast+100

wildbill2u
05-27-2009, 02:55 PM
I remember one play where Mason tried to drive the lane, tripped over his own feet and sprawled headlong onto the floor. It demonstrated his problems with dribbing, driving, and lateral movement on defense.

So much for athleticism at the SG by Mason. He doesn't have it.

trajik dark
05-27-2009, 03:41 PM
Uhh... George Hill is a 2 guard. So, done and done and you're done. Tony Allen :lol...Pfffft.hill is not ready yet needs a year or two but could play backup so fuck off before i trade your rights to the clippers for the water boy:lmao

BlackBellamy
05-28-2009, 11:23 AM
hill is not ready yet needs a year or two but could play backup so fuck off before i trade your rights to the clippers for the water boy:lmao

Jeez, touch-eee. Maybe you should wait until you have a few more posts on this board prior to telling others participating in this forum to fuck off? It doesn't exactly make people want to listen to you (read your posts) when you start a thread of junk and then curse at those that actually respond. Just one man's opinion here. Oh, and I think George will have a go of splitting time between the back-up 1 and 2 this year with the option. He did just fine starting in place of Tony for that brief stint last year at the 1 (which wasn't even his position in school), so what makes you so sure he couldn't be a first option at the 2 (in which I assume he is far more comfortable playing) this year? After the earlier part of the season (and I suppose dependent on who is brought in) we'll see if he can be trusted with cracking a starting position. Pop has already vowed to play him more this coming season. But hey, you stay classy.

spursncowboys
05-30-2009, 10:22 AM
:ihit
we need a sg that can dribble,dunk,and also play d tony allen will be perfect for his spot

RuffnReadyOzStyle
05-30-2009, 08:55 PM
Tony Allen? You gotta be fucking kidding. Guy can't shoot and infuriates Celts fans with his constant mental mistakes and poor shot selection.

We need an athletic upgrade at the swing spots, but Allen ain't it, and unless we get offered a much better player, I'd keep Mason. Guy is Spur through and through, and he is a very useful player as long as he can stick to his role.

OP, you are starting a lot of stupid threads, and that's not a wonderful way to start of at ST. Word to the wise, heed it.

raspsa
05-30-2009, 09:25 PM
Ginobili's injury screwed up the rotations. Mason was put into a position where he was asked to do things that he really wasn't suited for. But in his comfort zone he proved deadly and capable. Perhaps expectations were set too high. Mason is not a savior. But he is a very useful piece of the puzzle if used properly.

Agloco
06-03-2009, 09:52 AM
This makes me miss poop threads.

:lol

DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-03-2009, 10:21 AM
This trade idea is retarded.

Note: Since it's a new poster, I'm expecting a cheap shot about how the Suns suck. My response ahead of time:

Whether or not the Suns suck doesn't change the fact Tony Allen for Roger Mason would be retarded for the Spurs.

dmac
06-03-2009, 11:16 AM
i miss brent barry

I-10 east dude!

SenorSpur
06-03-2009, 12:10 PM
Apparently a lot of people don't understand how the Spurs system works..we need role playing shooters like Mason, he's one of the best shooters in the NBA..

the SF position should be our slasher..

Mason was clearly playing very well for us until the PG experiment..it wasn't a coincidence..

+4 x 1000

There's nothing wrong with Mason. Pop simply needs to allow him to do what he does best - spot up and shoot the ball. He's not a backup PG and shouldn't be forced into that role. It still puzzles me as to what Pop saw in Mason that had him salivating over the prospect of thrusting him into that role.

As for the SF position, that absence of said slasher is the problem.

barbacoataco
06-03-2009, 07:29 PM
my problem with Mason is that his defense just isn't that good. IMO the Spurs need to get back to concentrating on defense. That doesn't mean I think they should trade Mason for some piece of crap. I see him in the role Finley had in 2007. If he is forced to do more than that, he isn't good enough.

If the Spurs had an option at SF/PF who was a lockdown defender, without much offensive game, could they use that player? I think they could given that Bowen and Finley have often played the SF role, and neither can do anything but shoot open 3's.

EricB
06-03-2009, 08:31 PM
+4 x 1000

There's nothing wrong with Mason. Pop simply needs to allow him to do what he does best - spot up and shoot the ball. He's not a backup PG and shouldn't be forced into that role. It still puzzles me as to what Pop saw in Mason that had him salivating over the prospect of thrusting him into that role.

As for the SF position, that absence of said slasher is the problem.

A whole season of doing in Washington maybe?!?!?!

20beastie45
04-30-2011, 06:14 AM
LMAO at some of these post!!!!

TE
04-30-2011, 06:17 AM
This trade idea is retarded.

Note: Since it's a new poster, I'm expecting a cheap shot about how the Suns suck. My response ahead of time:

Whether or not the Suns suck doesn't change the fact Tony Allen for Roger Mason would be retarded for the Spurs.


Sorry DOK.
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

hsxvvd
04-30-2011, 06:21 AM
Great bump... Ouch.

DrSteffo
04-30-2011, 06:23 AM
Some people don't know very much about basketball and still post a lot.