Another Message From Thunder Dan

[Thunder Dan]

I know you are all basking in the thrills of the Cavs' defeat but some of you are pretty stupid


1) Lebron is not overrated, and his hype is clearly validated. He has done just as much, if not more, than what Kobe has done with his supporting cast. He is averaging over 40ppg in this series- say what you want about him, but you can't say he sucks or he is overrated. The guy is a beast.

2) The Magic are playing out of their minds right now, and the Cavs have been playing poorly. For example, Rafer Alston can't miss a 3, while even banking them in at times. Everything if falling their way. Where on the other hand, Mo Williams and Delonte West can't hit anything- neither can Gibson, but that has been all year.

Last night the Magic made 17 3's, shooting over 44%. I don't know any team in the league that can beat a team that makes 17 3's. I know you guys will fail to read this, but the Cavs scoring 100 points last night should have been enough to win- the 3's were the difference.

Now, going forward. Only 1 game has been decisive. If the breaks go the other way like Delonte gets that board last night, or hits the shot in game 1, of they don't shoot 50% from 3, the Cavs could be looking at a 3-1 lead in the series. So while I get that you are all jealous of the attention Lebron gets over your team, and that is why you hate the Cavs, let's call it like it is: The Magic have peaked, and the Cavs are still in it- hanging by a thread, but still in it none the less.

Finally
Lebron is the best player in the NBA
Mo Williams sucks

[Ghazi]

Partially agree

[benefactor]

So while I get that you are all jealous of the attention Lebron gets over your team
Alright now...don't lump us all together. Laker fan does not speak for everyone.

[Thunder Dan]

Alright now...don't lump us all together. Laker fan does not speak for everyone.

That was directed towards a boatload of Suns, Spurs, Mavs, and Rockets fans on this board that bask in every Cavs loss and pin it all on Lebron when the guy is scoring 40-something points on like 20 shots. The guy is a beast. Mo Williams just didn't show up this post season. If Mo plays like he did in the regular seasons, the Cavs are at home resting for the Finals. Instead, Mo decided to play like Larry Hughes.

[ginobme]

I know you are all basking in the thrills of the Cavs' defete but some of you are pretty stupid



2) The Magic are playing out of their minds right now, and the Cavs have been playing poorly. For example, Rafer Alston can't miss a 3, while even banking them in at times. Everything if falling their way. Where on the other hand, Mo Williams and Delonte West can't hit anything- neither can Gibson, but that has been all year.

Last night the Magic made 17 3's, shooting over 44%. I don't know any team in the league that can beat a team that makes 17 3's. I know you guys will fail to read this, but the Cavs scoring 100 points last night should have been enough to win- the 3's were the difference.


The magic have been playing out of their minds for 3 series in a row. Those 3's aren't a fluke dude, they've been falling for damn near a month's worth of basketball. And if LJ doesn't hit a miracle shot this series is over. I agree w/point #1 though.

[Indazone]

Is lies! All Racist lies! Long live the overrated Queen.

[Ghazi]

At this point I think Lebron needs to play 45-48 minutes per game.

His +/- was actually + in Games 1 and 4 losses. Although - in the Game 2 win.

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I still think the Cavs win the series.

[Thunder Dan]

The magic have been playing out of their minds for 3 series in a row. Those 3's aren't a fluke dude, they've been falling for damn near a month's worth of basketball. And if LJ doesn't hit a miracle shot this series is over. I agree w/point #1 though.

Orlando came into the series shooting 32% from 3

The Last Couple Games
Game 1: (9/20) 45%
Game 2: (10/23) 43.5%
Game 3: (6/17) 33.5%
Game 4: (17/38) 44.7%

That is called shooting lights out. If they shoot even 37% a night, the Cavs are 3-1 right now, not even assuming the Cavs shoot any better than they are right now

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Orlando came into the series shooting 32% from 3

The Last Couple Games
Game 1: (9/20) 45%
Game 2: (10/23) 43.5%
Game 3: (6/17) 33.5%
Game 4: (17/38) 44.7%

That is called shooting lights out. If they shoot even 37% a night, the Cavs are 3-1 right now, not even assuming the Cavs shoot any better than they are right now

Cavs have GOT to defend the pick and roll better. That has been getting them all kinds of open 3's. STOP GOING UNDER THE DAMN PICKS.

[Thunder Dan]

Cavs have GOT to defend the pick and roll better. That has been getting them all kinds of open 3's. STOP GOING UNDER THE DAMN PICKS.

Some of them are not well contested, but alot of them are. When Rafer Alston is banking in shots, and Pietrus is hitting fade-away 3's over Lebron, you are hard to beat.

[Ghazi]

Magic shot like 39-40% from 3 in regular season v Cavs too

Don't think it's a fluke.

Although last night was a little insane.

[2Cleva]

Magic shot like 39-40% from 3 in regular season v Cavs too

Don't think it's a fluke.

Although last night was a little insane.

Exactly.

I said before the series, Cleveland's D is designed by nature to pack the paint and conced the 3 - exactly what Orlando wants to shoot. Cleveland made a mistake by not doing what Orlando does - they should be playing Howard 1 on 1 and daring him to score 40 and stay at home on the shooters. Instead they are doubling on the catch which feeds the Orlando ball movement for the 3.

[ginobme]

Well, I guess you can keep waiting for the 3s to stop falling..just like Boston and Philly.

[Blake]

another another message from thunder dan:

"Lebron.....mmmrprh......is.......mmmppprh......the best........mrmmrrr slurp......player.........slurrrrrrrp........in the.....[gulp].....nba....."

[ginobme]

Exactly.

I said before the series, Cleveland's D is designed by nature to pack the paint and conced the 3 - exactly what Orlando wants to shoot. Cleveland made a mistake by not doing what Orlando does - they should be playing Howard 1 on 1 and daring him to score 40 and stay at home on the shooters. Instead they are doubling on the catch which feeds the Orlando ball movement for the 3.

+1. But what is also killing them is the pick roll with Turk & Howard. Its either a Howard dunk or an open 3 for someone. I guess you're saying let Howard have all the dunks he wants...its worth a try at this point.

[Thunder Dan]

Magic shot like 39-40% from 3 in regular season v Cavs too

Don't think it's a fluke.

Although last night was a little insane.

if they shoot 40% the Cavs are up 3-1

[JamStone]

Once Alston started making threes, you'd think the Cavs would start defending him. Yet he kept getting open look after open look. While the Magic have shot the ball extraordinarily well this series, the Cavs defense has done a horrible job adjusting to the hot shooting. The aren't rotating crisply, and their recover and contest defense is weak.

LeBron isn't overrated but he played poorly yesterday down the stretch and I think he choked in crunch time. All of his turnovers late cost the Cavs the game. Without LeBron, the Cavs aren't even in the game. But he absolutely deserves criticism for how he closed out the game. He's too good to have played so poorly at the end of the game.

[Ghazi]

Well I agree this series could easily be 3-1 Cleveland.

It ain't over yet fo sho.

[Jacko]

I wonder what Cavs fan opinion on the refs is. I doubt they are even aware at how incredibly rigged these games are and how pathetic it is that the Cavs still can't win.

Make no mistake, the NBA is going to make sure King James gets a ring. May not happen this year, but at some point in the next 5 he will for sure.

And the Magic are hitting 3's because they are WIDE OPEN. I don't see any of them being consistently run off the 3pt line. If the Cavs frontcourt wasn't so pathetic they wouldn't need to double Howard, that is what's killing them along with their crappy P&R defense.

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Some of them are not well contested, but alot of them are. When Rafer Alston is banking in shots, and Pietrus is hitting fade-away 3's over Lebron, you are hard to beat.

Can't argue that.

My BIGGEST problem with the Cavs is the lack of energy and hustle that they had been doing all season. They are getting massively outhustled which gives the Magic a lot of momentum, and feeds into their 3pt shooting. Cavs need to start playing more physical and with more heart. Their heart is what had carry a team massively lacking in talent over the past few years. This playoffs, it seems like their heart suddenly disappeared.

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I wonder what Cavs fan opinion on the refs is. I doubt they are even aware at how incredibly rigged these games are and how pathetic it is that the Cavs still can't win.

Please die.

[Brazil]

that is why you hate the Cavs

Thunder, nobody hates the cavs. What we dislike is the fucking hype and the lack of respect of the media and of the refs for Denver and Orlando.

Regarding LBJ, he is the best no question but the cavs are not a team and a team is always > individual. Now I don't think this serie is over.

[Spursfan092120]

Is lies! All Racist lies! Long live the overrated Queen.
KBP? lol

[Thunder Dan]

I wonder what Cavs fan opinion on the refs is. I doubt they are even aware at how incredibly rigged these games are and how pathetic it is that the Cavs still can't win.

Make no mistake, the NBA is going to make sure King James gets a ring. May not happen this year, but at some point in the next 5 he will for sure.

And the Magic are hitting 3's because they are WIDE OPEN. I don't see any of them being consistently run off the 3pt line. If the Cavs frontcourt wasn't so pathetic they wouldn't need to double Howard, that is what's killing them along with their crappy P&R defense.

First: Lebron is good enough to win a ring. He doesn't need the refs to get it, he needs his teammates to play to their potential

Second: I see calls go both ways. When you hate the Cavs/Lebron, and you expect them to get all the calls, it's easy to sit and watch a game and notice all the calls they get. However, the Magic are getting calls too. The Cavs were getting all of their calls when they were playing agressive- just like the Nuggets the other night, when they became passive, they didn't get any calls

If you are referring to the last play on Howard, you must really just hate the Cavs and not have a partial bone in your body. First, he pulled Anderson into him, and held onto him, and Second, do you want a game ending with .5 seconds left on a call that could have gone either way? I mean I know YOU do, but the league doesn't. The Cavs got screwed out of a call in Indiana over a call like that, it shouldn't happen like that in the Playoffs.

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If you are referring to the last play on Howard, you must really just hate the Cavs and not have a partial bone in your body. First, he pulled Anderson into him, and held onto him, and Second, do you want a game ending with .5 seconds left on a call that could have gone either way? I mean I know YOU do, but the league doesn't. The Cavs got screwed out of a Cav in Indiana over a call like that, it shouldn't happen like that in the Playoffs.

I was hoping someone else with a reasonable head saw that. I went back and looked at it several times on DVR, and Anderson didn't do a single thing meriting a foul. IF a foul was to be merited, it should have gone against Dwight. A no call was perfect in that situation.

[it's me]

Well I agree this series could easily be 3-1 Cleveland.

It ain't over yet fo sho.

This series could easily be over if not for a Lewalk James lucky 3pt shoot.

[Extra Stout]

Mike Brown is failing at defense.

The correct strategy is the one the Spurs always used with invariable success on Phoenix -- DON'T GIVE UP THE 3!!!! Cleveland has some tremendous individual defenders -- James, West, and Varejao among them -- but their strategy is totally wrong against Orlando, and for Brown not to have made an adjustment four games in betrays the true nature of the "Coach of the Year" award -- it simply goes to the coach of the team that most exceeded expectations, regardless of whether he really did the best coaching job.

It is impressive that LeBron James won 66 games on a team that would have been in the lottery without him. But a team's weaknesses are exposed in the playoffs, and Cleveland has a ton of them.

By the way, has there ever been a more certain prediction in the history of civilization than Dwight Howard getting a technical foul called on him tomorrow night if he so much as sneezes?

[Blake]

By the way, has there ever been a more certain prediction in the history of civilization than Dwight Howard getting a technical foul called on him tomorrow night if he so much as sneezes?

if you are a nut that believes in NBA conspiracy theories, then yeah, I guess it's a certainty.

[it's me]

I was hoping someone else with a reasonable head saw that. I went back and looked at it several times on DVR, and Anderson didn't do a single thing meriting a foul. IF a foul was to be merited, it should have gone against Dwight. A no call was perfect in that situation.

He did something to merit the foul….. that fucker flops ridiculously all the time…. Refs are getting tired of that shit obviously…. sooner or later that’ll work against you…..

Now … what’s even funnier is cavs fans … and bandwagon pseudo fans complaining about the officiating when lequeen does whatever she wants and gets away with all kinds, forms and shapes of BS calls.

[dougp]

Mike Brown is failing at defense.

The correct strategy is the one the Spurs always used with invariable success on Phoenix -- DON'T GIVE UP THE 3!!!! Cleveland has some tremendous individual defenders -- James, West, and Varejao among them -- but their strategy is totally wrong against Orlando, and for Brown not to have made an adjustment four games in betrays the true nature of the "Coach of the Year" award -- it simply goes to the coach of the team that most exceeded expectations, regardless of whether he really did the best coaching job.

It is impressive that LeBron James won 66 games on a team that would have been in the lottery without him. But a team's weaknesses are exposed in the playoffs, and Cleveland has a ton of them.

By the way, has there ever been a more certain prediction in the history of civilization than Dwight Howard getting a technical foul called on him tomorrow night if he so much as sneezes?

Cavs wouldn't be a lottery team without LBJ - they'd still be in the playoffs.

I believe what this does is show how 1) overrated LBJ is - the guy is a good player, but has no faith in his team and allows them to crumble and 2) how terribly skewed the Eastern Conference is.

[Ghazi]

Lebron is probably worth about 30-34 wins.

Cavs would be a lottery team without him!

[resistanze]

Mike Brown is failing at defense.

The correct strategy is the one the Spurs always used with invariable success on Phoenix -- DON'T GIVE UP THE 3!!!! Cleveland has some tremendous individual defenders -- James, West, and Varejao among them -- but their strategy is totally wrong against Orlando, and for Brown not to have made an adjustment four games in betrays the true nature of the "Coach of the Year" award -- it simply goes to the coach of the team that most exceeded expectations, regardless of whether he really did the best coaching job.

It is impressive that LeBron James won 66 games on a team that would have been in the lottery without him. But a team's weaknesses are exposed in the playoffs, and Cleveland has a ton of them.

By the way, has there ever been a more certain prediction in the history of civilization than Dwight Howard getting a technical foul called on him tomorrow night if he so much as sneezes?
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All I keep thinking during this series is WHY Mike Brown doesn't apply the Spurs strategy to defending the Suns. It's costing them the series moreso than the shitty offensive output by the scrubs.

[resistanze]

Cavs wouldn't be a lottery team without LBJ - they'd still be in the playoffs.

I believe what this does is show how 1) overrated LBJ is - the guy is a good player, but has no faith in his team and allows them to crumble and 2) how terribly skewed the Eastern Conference is.

Turrible.

[Muser]

Cavs wouldn't be a lottery team without LBJ - they'd still be in the playoffs.

I believe what this does is show how 1) overrated LBJ is - the guy is a good player, but has no faith in his team and allows them to crumble and 2) how terribly skewed the Eastern Conference is.

1) Would you have faith in those PoS players?

2) East has 3 of the top 4 teams in the league, try again.

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He did something to merit the foul….. that fucker flops ridiculously all the time…. Refs are getting tired of that shit obviously…. sooner or later that’ll work against you…..

That made no sense whatsoever in relation to my post. That had nothing to do with that particular play. It was a no-call play, which was the right call at the time.

[JamStone]

I liked the no-call on Varejao to end regulation. That's too tough a call to make to decide the game. But, the flipside to that is that if the refs are going to let them play, then LeBron shouldn't have gotten free throws with 0.5 seconds left when he lowered his shoulder and slipped. That was a no call as well. There was contact, but it was definitely initiated by LeBron, like it usually is. Had LeBron not fallen, I don't think that call would have been made. But, I don't think it should have been made anyway. Good no call on Varejao. Should have been a no call on Pietrus the play before.

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Cavs wouldn't be a lottery team without LBJ - they'd still be in the playoffs.

I believe what this does is show how 1) overrated LBJ is - the guy is a good player, but has no faith in his team and allows them to crumble

You're a fucking dumbass.

[urunobili]

Mo Williams is a choker trash talking fuck... No surprises on the 3-1...:wakeup

and for the record... LBJ is the best Basketball player in the planet.. period...

[ducks]

he needs to pass more
and help gets his teamates involved like barkley said
double teams get other players open if they move

[ducks]

I liked the no-call on Varejao to end regulation. That's too tough a call to make to decide the game. But, the flipside to that is that if the refs are going to let them play, then LeBron shouldn't have gotten free throws with 0.5 seconds left when he lowered his shoulder and slipped. That was a no call as well. There was contact, but it was definitely initiated by LeBron, like it usually is. Had LeBron not fallen, I don't think that call would have been made. But, I don't think it should have been made anyway. Good no call on Varejao. Should have been a no call on Pietrus the play before.

I agree if howard does not get the call james should not either
if anything it was an o foul on james

[Jacko]

The Cavs are also losing because they disrespected the Magic.

They bought into their hype that they were the best thing since sliced bread. Everyone on that team is guilty of being over confident because of the way they trashed ATL and DET.

When a player on the Cavs is saying that he doesn't think the other team can beat them 4 times, he simply doesn't know what playoff basketball is about. Nobody on that team knows what it takes to win, not even Lebron. At least not yet.

[dougp]

You're a fucking dumbass.

And you're a Mavs fan.

That trumps any insult I could call you, period.

If you seriously think the Cavs are a lottery team without LBJ, you're a dumbass. They'd have another player on that team that would be able to average 15-20 points. Look at who made the fucking playoffs in the East and then try to convince me they'd be lottery - cause it won't fucking happen. The 76ers, Bulls and Hawks all made it. So could a LBJ-less Cavs.

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And you're a Mavs fan.

That trumps any insult I could call you, period.

Epic fail. You're an insult to Spurs fans.


If you seriously think the Cavs are a lottery team without LBJ, you're a dumbass. They'd have another player on that team that would be able to average 15-20 points. Look at who made the fucking playoffs in the East and then try to convince me they'd be lottery - cause it won't fucking happen. The 76ers, Bulls and Hawks all made it. So could a LBJ-less Cavs.

Oh wow, one player that can MAYBE average 15-20 points as the #1 option. Who else is going to score points for them and create their offense? You might be the dumbest human being alive. I feel sorry for your parents.

76ers, Bulls, and Hawks all were solid teams too. Bulls nearly upset the Celtics, and the 76ers played the Magic pretty tough.

[Thunder Dan]

The Cavs just don't match up with the Magic.

The series isn't over though. They have 1 guaranteed home game they should win, they are capable of beating the Magic on the road if they play their game, and they can win another home game on the road. Nothing has really changed from 2 days ago, the Cavs need to win a road game. As much as the defense looks like crap, it does atleast appear to be better than in games 1 and 2, which leads me to think they can win 2 home games- they just need to get some production from Mo in a game 6 if it gets that far

[Viva Las Espuelas]

if lebron had missed the game winning shot the other night the magic would be home today waiting for the nuggets. yes i said it. i'm still trying to find out what makes the cavs so good. i really don't see it past lebron. i think the '07 spurs could've beat this years cavs. maybe not a sweep, but we'd take the series. the cavs are done. they'll get tomorrow's game, maybe, and that's a big maybe. lebron's tired and the rest of the team is expecting the ring already. don't be like the mavs. earn your respect. don't demand it.

[Thunder Dan]

It took the Red Sox coming back from 3-0 to break their curse in 2004. The Cavs can do it to break Clevelands.

[Thunder Dan]

if lebron had missed the game winning shot the other night the magic would be home today waiting for the nuggets. yes i said it. i'm still trying to find out what makes the cavs so good. i really don't see it past lebron. i think the '07 spurs could've beat this years cavs. maybe not a sweep, but we'd take the series. the cavs are done. they'll get tomorrow's game, maybe, and that's a big maybe. lebron's tired and the rest of the team is expecting the ring already. don't be like the mavs. earn your respect. don't demand it.

same can be said if Rashard doesn't make his 2, or Mo's goes in at the end of game 1

[Viva Las Espuelas]

same can be said if Rashard doesn't make his 2, or Mo's goes in at the end of game 1
yeah, but it seems everything went magic's way 3 times to the cavs 1. it's over dude, but keep hold of that flame.

[Indazone]

another another message from thunder dan:

"Lebron.....mmmrprh......is.......mmmppprh......the best........mrmmrrr slurp......player.........slurrrrrrrp........in the.....[gulp].....nba....."

:lmao

[Indazone]

Rafer Alston bringing his A game to the playoffs like he always does. You hate his teardrop during the regular season but he steps it up come playoff time.

[Thunder Dan]

:lmao

you seriously thought that was funny? I ignored it because it was painfully unfunny and unworthy of a response

[redzero]

I really just want the Cavs to lose because of the hype.

[Indazone]

It took the Red Sox coming back from 3-0 to break their curse in 2004. The Cavs can do it to break Clevelands.

You do realize that this is Cleveland we are talking about not Boston.

[Ghazi]

Stfu kbp

[Indazone]

Stfu kbp

Son, are you always this stupid or are you making a special effort today?

[Lebron4MVP]

I still think the Cavs win the series.




Based on what?

The bench is pathetic. The bigs are either old and/or limited.Mo Williams is a vagina and cant back up his smack talk when the pressure is on. Lebron is having to carry this team. Tell me STRETCH how are they going to win this series with these consistent problems? Open your eyes and stop being biased towards the team you picked to win it all. Tell me how are they going to win this series with these obvious problems? Are things going to magically fix itself? I am dying to hear what you have to say.

[sook]

The Cavs just don't match up with the Magic.

The series isn't over though. They have 1 guaranteed home game they should win, they are capable of beating the Magic on the road if they play their game, and they can win another home game on the road. Nothing has really changed from 2 days ago, the Cavs need to win a road game. As much as the defense looks like crap, it does atleast appear to be better than in games 1 and 2, which leads me to think they can win 2 home games- they just need to get some production from Mo in a game 6 if it gets that far

apparently they don't matchup with any "Elite" team

[SpursDynasty]

The Magic aren't playing out of their minds. They're just beating a team they're supposed to beat. They aren't needing to stretch themselves or BS...they're just going out there and doing what they're supposed to do. If LeBron isn't getting help it's because he isn't passing the ball enough. There is no reason for anyone to have a 42.3 ppg scoring average in any playoff series. No one here is jealous of LeBron or the hype he gets, he doesn't have anything that any team wants. He's not an NBA champion. Again, no jealousy, no trolling, no trash talking, Orlando is simply the better team in this series and there isn't anything LeBron can do about it.

[Lars]

Lets see you supposedly have the best basketball player in existence ever, supposedly the coach of the year, with supposedly the best defense ever. I wonder what happened? Maybe its because the Cavs are overated as shit by the media and play like the ring is already on thier fingers. Maybe its because instead of focusing on the game you are too busy making stupid camera parodies on the sidelines and excessively celebrating.

Boy I bet you feel pretty stupid coming in here posting like an arrogant entitled asshole all season long.

lol ThunderDan
lol Dwightmare
lol NY 2010
lol mistake by the lake
lol ehlo

[sook]

Lets see you supposedly have the best basketball player in existence ever, supposedly the coach of the year, with supposedly the best defense ever. I wonder what happened? Maybe its because the Cavs are overated as shit by the media and play like the ring is already on thier fingers. Maybe its because instead of focusing on the game you are too busy making stupid camera parodies on the sidelines and excessively celebrating.

Boy I bet you feel pretty stupid coming in here posting like an arrogant entitled asshole all season long.

lol ThunderDan
lol Dwightmare
lol NY 2010
lol mistake by the lake
lol ehlo
I KNEW this was going to happen. In the post season teams adjust and you won't get by with someone scoring 40% of your points. It HAS to be a team effort, that is why even though the lakers have their lackadaisical play, they can get by without Kobe having to carry so much load

[DeadlyDynasty]

Cavs are still just LeBron James and a gaggle of jumpshooters...LIKE WE'VE SAID ALL ALONG

[ffadicted]

I plead guilty to be anti-cavs (I love when the underdog wins) and anti-LeHype, bu def not anti Lebron.

Anti-Vareflop, Anti-"Guaranteed" Mo.... but not anti-James.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

That was directed towards a boatload of Suns, Spurs, Mavs, and Rockets fans on this board that bask in every Cavs loss and pin it all on Lebron when the guy is scoring 40-something points on like 20 shots.


If that's targetted at me yes I'm happy to see certain players on Cleveland losing but I have not posted a single thing this series blaming the losses on Lebron. I think most would agree he's done all he can.

I feel bad for Cleveland fans. Seeing Mo Williams tease the fans during the regular season and crush their hope during the playoffs gives me deja vu of what Barbosa did in 2007.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Cavs would be a lottery team without him!


Thanks for that burst of genius Ghazi. We all needed someone to say Cleveland is a lottery team without Lebron, none of us would have been able to figure that out on our own. ST appreciates the enlightenment.

[ffadicted]

Thanks for that burst of genius Ghazi. We all needed someone to say Cleveland is a lottery team without Lebron, none of us would have been able to figure that out on our own. ST appreciates the enlightenment.

:lol

[NewJerSpur]

Well, it looks like LeBron's stretches of unclutch FT shooting may follow him for the rest of his career and he made some extremely poor decisions down the line (not to mention getting bailed out by the call on Pietrus where the only contact that occurred was him putting his elbow to Mikael's neck). That said, the Cavs still have a chance if the offense wakes up and I think the move to post LeBron up on Pietrus early was a smart won. I still believe the series will either turn out like the Pistons/Lakers series in '04 or the Mavs/Warriors series in '07 (IF Orlando loses game 5).

A bold prediction for Cleveland's offseason either way: Steve Nash to the Cleve Cavs?

[SouthTexasRancher]

I know you are all basking in the thrills of the Cavs' defeat but some of you are pretty stupid


1) Lebron is not overrated, and his hype is clearly validated. He has done just as much, if not more, than what Kobe has done with his supporting cast. He is averaging over 40ppg in this series- say what you want about him, but you can't say he sucks or he is overrated. The guy is a beast.

2) The Magic are playing out of their minds right now, and the Cavs have been playing poorly. For example, Rafer Alston can't miss a 3, while even banking them in at times. Everything if falling their way. Where on the other hand, Mo Williams and Delonte West can't hit anything- neither can Gibson, but that has been all year.

Last night the Magic made 17 3's, shooting over 44%. I don't know any team in the league that can beat a team that makes 17 3's. I know you guys will fail to read this, but the Cavs scoring 100 points last night should have been enough to win- the 3's were the difference.

Now, going forward. Only 1 game has been decisive. If the breaks go the other way like Delonte gets that board last night, or hits the shot in game 1, of they don't shoot 50% from 3, the Cavs could be looking at a 3-1 lead in the series. So while I get that you are all jealous of the attention Lebron gets over your team, and that is why you hate the Cavs, let's call it like it is: The Magic have peaked, and the Cavs are still in it- hanging by a thread, but still in it none the less.

Finally
Lebron is the best player in the NBA
Mo Williams sucks



Uhhhh, Danny Boy, SpursTalk.com has had an overwhelming number of posters who've been pulling for Cleveland because of Mike Brown and Danny Ferry. So don't go grouping the whole group into one pile.

However, I'll admit that Lebron is 'one' of the best players in the NBA. There are several. Here in South Texas and San Antonio we tend to look at greatness through the lens of a trophy/ring. And when you see 4 NBA Championship Trophy's and Banners hanging from the rafters we all look at Tim as one of the Greatest of the Greats. He could average 30+ ppg and 15 rpg if he and Pop wanted but, we would most likely not have all of the trophy's. He saw early on that the most important thing was to be a team player and it has paid off big time.

So I say good luck to your Cavs but, you better get 4 other guys who are willing to give it all they have in helping Lebron. No one player can do it all...and that's a fact, Jack!!!