DOn't blame the refs, Nuggets just happen to have some idiots

[lefty]

Namely:

- George Karl
- Kenyon Martin
- George Karl
- Jr Smith
- George Karl

Yeah, the refs should go to prison, but even without the Sternism, Nuggets have beaten themselves

[timtonymanu]

so true.

[NewJerSpur]

Denver<Denver

[dav4463]

Nene should not have fouled out. That was crap. Carmelo got mugged...no call. I hate the NBA. Screw it. I'm watching baseball.

[Jacko]

The refs were definitely in favor of LAL, but DEN did not do themselves any favors by playing idiotically in the 4th.

The refs are no different than they were in Game 4 in regards to home cooking. Expect the same thing to happen in Game 6.

[Amaso]

Lakers got lucky with that last Nene foul, thats for sure.

[benefactor]

Probably a lot of both.

[sammy]

Fixed!

[Darthkiller]

Fixed!

laker 35 ft (including the intentional fouls at the end)
nug 30 ft


kobe 10 ft
melo 12 ft

[dav4463]

It gets to be a waste of time watching the games. They are so predictable.

Denver probably will win at home and gain false hope that they can win in LA. Then unless they play absolutely perfect, they will not win in game seven in LA.

Lakers will be getting all the crucial calls and they are too good for Denver to win unless Denver gets the benefit of some calls as well.

If it is close, then Kobe will get a couple of close calls to go his way and whoever is hot for Denver will suddenly find himself in foul trouble and LA will win Game seven at home.

It's so predictable these days, it's getting boring.

[TheMACHINE]

laker 35 ft (including the intentional fouls at the end)
nug 30 ft


kobe 10 ft
melo 12 ft

damn refs.

[dav4463]

Magic is ejaculating on TV right now bragging about the Lakers.

[ballhog]

Lakers got lucky with that last Nene foul, thats for sure.

Not sure luck had much to do with it.:wow

[LakerHater]

damn refs.


Fouls:
Den: 30
LA: 22

[TheMACHINE]

Magic is ejaculating on TV right now bragging about the Lakers.

fck magic and his espn flip flopping. he's becoming like Jon barry.

[Jacko]

The Nene foul wouldn't have changed the game. It was already a 6-10pt lead by then.

[timvp]

:lol @ Kenyon Martin getting blocked by the bottom of the backboard.

Big Moment Martin strikes again.

[lefty]

Magic is ejaculating on TV right now bragging about the Lakers.
I hope he is not aiming at the rest of the ESPN crew, because that would not end well


(ok, it was an insensitive joke)

[ballhog]

damn refs.

About 25 of the 30 FT's were in the first half.

[LakerHater]

:lol @ Kenyon Martin getting blocked by the bottom of the backboard.

Big Moment Martin strikes again.

http://i41.tinypic.com/25664go.jpg

...Then the commentators praise Odoms D!!!!
:lol

[iggypop123]

missing 11 straight shots in the 4th probably was the reason for the loss not refs

[hhml]

The refs were definitely in favor of LAL, but DEN did not do themselves any favors by playing idiotically in the 4th.

The refs are no different than they were in Game 4 in regards to home cooking. Expect the same thing to happen in Game 6.

This is very true.

[dav4463]

laker 35 ft (including the intentional fouls at the end)
nug 30 ft


kobe 10 ft
melo 12 ft

Nuggets led the league in free throw attempts. They went inside tonight like they always do, but Lakers shot more free throws. It's not the number of foul shots; it's when the crucial calls go Laker's way that matters.

Case in point: It is a 4 point game and Nene fouls out on an absolutely horrible call that should have been an offensive foul. Instead of having a chance to cut it to 2 or 1....Lakers go up by six. Stern's mission is accomplished on one well-timed bad call.

[NewJerSpur]

:lol @ Kenyon Martin getting blocked by the bottom of the backboard.

Big Moment Martin strikes again.

:lol

[Jacko]

I told you guys before this game started.

The Nuggets plan of playing crash ball would not be as effective in LA.

[TheMACHINE]

Nuggets led the league in free throw attempts. They went inside tonight like they always do, but Lakers shot more free throws. It's not the number of foul shots; it's when the crucial calls go Laker's way that matters.

Case in point: It is a 4 point game and Nene fouls out on an absolutely horrible call that should have been an offensive foul. Instead of having a chance to cut it to 2 or 1....Lakers go up by six. Stern's mission is accomplished on one well-timed bad call.

how bout the not well timed bad calls? we'll pretend it didnt happen?

[Ghazi]

i didnt like nenes 6th foul tho

[NewJerSpur]

I told you guys before this game started.

The Nuggets plan of playing crash ball would not be as effective in LA.

Neither was their outside shooting, but they went with it anyway like the dummies they are.

[Trainwreck2100]

The Nene foul wouldn't have changed the game. It was already a 6-10pt lead by then.

it was a 4 point lead pao's 2 fts made it 6

[ballhog]

Yeah, you can only drive the hoop so many times and not get calls before you just say "fuck it, I'm jacking up a 3".

[redzero]

http://i41.tinypic.com/25664go.jpg

...Then the commentators praise Odoms D!!!!
:lol

Blocked with authority!

[timvp]

http://i41.tinypic.com/25664go.jpg

...Then the commentators praise Odoms D!!!!
:lol


I'm so scared of the Nuggets. It just feels like the Lakers are going to lose. I can't explain it. I think it's because the Lakers have such little talent around Kobe that we are going to lose. Pau Gasol sucks and that trade was a rip off. We should have kept Marc Gasol he is so much better. Derek Fisher sucks I wish he would die. These Nuggets are tough we just need some more talent and the Magic are going to beat us too!

[Capt Bringdown]

When Chauncey and Birdman got in early foul trouble it was pretty predictable that the Lakers would get the W.

A clear message to Denver that they would not be getting the calls tonight.

[pauls931]

I didn't watch it all, but the officiating looked fine to me this game. Sure a missed call here and there, nothing epic like Orlando has to deal with. Denver is just not mentally capable nor stable enough to compete against a good team. (Dallas is not a good team)

[Capt Bringdown]

Denver is just not mentally capable nor stable enough to compete against a good team. (Dallas is not a good team)

Yes, a team like the Nuggets cannot afford to give away two games against the Lakers.

[Obstructed_View]

The Lakers got a bunch of calls, but the Nuggets have nobody to blame but themselves. They played STOOOPID at the end of the game.

[NewJerSpur]

Before the officiating started to look suspect, Denver was making idiotic decisions with the basketball once the Lakers decided defense was a trendy idea.

[tp2021]

K-Mart was R-tarded.
The zebras stripes, upon closer inspection, were purple as well.

[iggypop123]

if anything the nuggets got lucky with the melo call. he took kobe down by the neck and it wasnt even called a flagrant. very lucky for him

[TheMACHINE]

damn..this has probably been the best officiated games..barely any techs...not to many FT's....yet people is still not happy.

[pauls931]

Someone called it here earlier. The first team to play defense would win. LA started playing D in the 4th and denver folded.

[Libri]

http://i41.tinypic.com/25664go.jpg

...Then the commentators praise Odoms D!!!!
:lol

That was a nice block by the backboard! hehe

[lefty]

The Spurs could use that backboard to help Duncan

We need an athletic big.

[hhml]

http://i41.tinypic.com/25664go.jpg

...Then the commentators praise Odoms D!!!!
:lol

What's wrong with that? If Lamar hadn't challenged the shot and made it tough for Martin, he would've had a wide open dunk.

[200 miles]

damn refs.

I award them no points and may God have mercy on their souls.

[ginobili's bald spot]

This forum should be renamed ref discussion. That's all that is ever talked about in here.

[Allanon]

Lakers got some home calls. Sounds about right...they're playing in LA after all.

Refs overall have done a pretty good job in the series. Time to close out on Friday.

[iggypop123]

its ok when denver gets home cooking but not when the lakers get it?

[NewJerSpur]

Lakers got some home calls. Sounds about right...they're playing in LA after all.

Refs overall have done a pretty good job in the series. Time to close out on Friday.

The officiating in this sereis has sucked for extened periods, but I think it's going 7 either way. Could be wrong, but I got a feeling.

[Obstructed_View]

its ok when denver gets home cooking but not when the lakers get it?

The Lakers got it in Denver too.

[KSeal]

That was a nice block by the backboard! hehe

Well if Lamar doesn't contest the shot like he does Martin gets a dunk, so you have to give Lamar's defense some credit for the backboard block.

[JamStone]

What's wrong with that? If Lamar hadn't challenged the shot and made it tough for Martin, he would've had a wide open dunk.

Look closer.

[hhml]

The Lakers got it in Denver too.

Denver got it in LA too. Game 2 for example. First half Lakers got the benefits. Second half Denver got more favorable calls. They got the most crucial call on the jump ball which could've given the Lakers the chance to win.

[hhml]

Look closer.

What about it?

[IronMexican]

fck magic and his espn flip flopping. he's becoming like Jon barry.

I flip flop like a motherfucker watching the games. When they are doing good, I cheer. When they play like shit, I start getting super pissed.

[La Peace]

Kenyon Martin/George Karl/Refs/JR smith's dinosaur dance 3
Denver 2

[Obstructed_View]

Denver got it in LA too. Game 2 for example. First half Lakers got the benefits. Second half Denver got more favorable calls. They got the most crucial call on the jump ball which could've given the Lakers the chance to win.

So the Nuggets got one call. I can see how you think that's unacceptable.

[manufan10]

Did the commentators even say anything about the ball hitting the backboard and Odom not really getting the block? Or did they just go with him getting a great block?

Magic shouldn't be doing "analysis" for these games. If he was on TNT I wouldn't have a problem, but when he's commenting on the Lakers there's no way he can be objective.

[lefty]

Did the commentators even say anything about the ball hitting the backboard and Odom not really getting the block? Or did they just go with him getting a great block?

Magic shouldn't be doing "analysis" for these games. If he was on TNT I wouldn't have a problem, but when he's commenting on the Lakers there's no way he can be objective.
This

[TheMACHINE]

Did the commentators even say anything about the ball hitting the backboard and Odom not really getting the block? Or did they just go with him getting a great block?

Magic shouldn't be doing "analysis" for these games. If he was on TNT I wouldn't have a problem, but when he's commenting on the Lakers there's no way he can be objective.

they made fun of him by mentioning the backboard on the replay.

[iggypop123]

van gundy said great block by the backboard

[Morg1411]

it gets to be a waste of time watching the games. They are so predictable.

Denver probably will win at home and gain false hope that they can win in la. Then unless they play absolutely perfect, they will not win in game seven in la.

Lakers will be getting all the crucial calls and they are too good for denver to win unless denver gets the benefit of some calls as well.

If it is close, then kobe will get a couple of close calls to go his way and whoever is hot for denver will suddenly find himself in foul trouble and la will win game seven at home.

It's so predictable these days, it's getting boring.

+1.

[DrHouse]

So when the Lakers get some home cooking it's collusion, but when the Nuggets get it even worse in their favor it's just good officiating?

Maybe you guys need to lend me your Spur glasses, I'm looking at this too objectively.

[TheMACHINE]

so pretty much people in here are complaining about 2 of the nene fouls. lol. FIXED.

Thanks Stern!

[RedsLakers24]

So when the Lakers get some home cooking it's collusion, but when the Nuggets get it even worse in their favor it's just good officiating?

Maybe you guys need to lend me your Spur glasses, I'm looking at this too objectively.

I Posted a thread on this, it said that when the Lakers get more FT every comes and post threads that the NBA is fix, but when the opponent shoots more FT than it was good officiating

[mingus]

Denver needs to trade away Kenyon and J.R. this summer if they want a chance next year ... Kenyon should have been the one to go instead of Marcus Camby last summer ... you just can't win with these guys , especially Smith . it's like Wilbon said : his game doesn't travel well , if at all ... he plays almost purely off the emotion of the home crowd , and is a totally different player away ...

And Kenyon not getting in front Odom on that last play last night was a huge mistake ... he stayed with Gasol who was to far away from the action to matter ... :bang

[mingus]

also , they need to get rid of Karl as well ... afterall , he's the idiot responsible for having the midget inbound the ball , and leaving that same responsibility to Martin as well ... i wouldn't trust Martin in any decision-making situation ... he's got Nene , Billups , Melo all over their to do that and he choses probably the least reliable ... he had that same variety at his disposal when he asked the midget to inbound as well ... Karl has got to go . might be the dumbest WCF team i can remember seeing ...

[hhml]

So the Nuggets got one call. I can see how you think that's unacceptable.

People complaining about the unfair officiating for the Lakers every single time they play, yet when it's all done the foul calls are close and the FT disparity are about even. So where is the the favoring of Lakers? Whatever happened to HCA? Don't the home team usually get more favorable calls anyway? And if the Lakers got so much benefits then why did they allow Nuggets to win game 2 on two missed crucial plays that were game changer? JR Smith had a lane violation, followed by Ariza being tripped after getting the ball on the same play. I thought Stern wanted the Lakers to be in the finals? How can they missed those blatant calls at the end of the game?

All I see in game threads are people complaining about calls the Lakers get, even when it's the right call. But they don't say anything when the Nuggets are on the receiving end of it. People were saying Bynum was flagrant when it clearly was not but when Kobe got hit hard yesterday (which could've been called a flagrant given how Bynum got his) no one said anything.

Of course the hatred for the Lakers is strong so people are going to be biased and think the Lakers are getting everything in their favor when that's not the case. For people who don't get a chance to watch the game...when they read the thread and see all this bitching about the Lakers and refs of course they're going to automatically think Denver is getting shafted.

Is the officiating terrible? Yes.
Both teams have received bad calls and favorable calls.
So stop the excessive whining because it's tiring and pointless.

[Kamnik]

Denver would easily win this series if several of their players wouldnt be so boneheaded. I dont find the officiating so horrible even though I root for Denver in this series.

I basically want to see both Kobe&Lebron loose in semi-finals and Orlando finally winning it all.(love da Turk)

[planaria]

laker 35 ft (including the intentional fouls at the end)
nug 30 ft


kobe 10 ft
melo 12 ft

Try to compare regular seasons averages. If Lakers has almost the same number of FTs in this series...yes...it´s fixed.

[Basketballgirl25]

DOn't blame the refs?

some one should tell that the Mav fans next season