UFC 99 Franklin vs Silva Fight Thread

[dbreiden83080]

http://mmamania.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/ufc99-comeback.jpg

Gotta get Herring off that poster..

Event Preview..


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Main card

Catchweight (195 lb) bout: Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva
Heavyweight bout: Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez
Welterweight bout: Mike Swick vs. Ben Saunders
Welterweight bout: Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy
Lightweight bout: Spencer Fisher vs. Caol Uno[

Preliminary card

Lightweight bout: Terry Etim vs. Justin Buchholz
Lightweight bout: Dennis Siver vs. Dale Hartt
Welterweight bout: Paul Taylor vs. Peter Sobotta
Lightweight bout: Paul Kelly vs. Rolando Delgado
Heavyweight bout: Denis Stojnic vs. Stefan Struve
Welterweight bout: John Hathaway vs. Rick Story

Probably not many will get into this with UFC 100 soon after but a few fights should be good.

[ATRAIN]

damn this is going to be a tough card for picks IMO

[Evan]

damn this is going to be a tough card for picks IMO

:toast I can't even begin to pick this card...

[djohn14]

I can though

Catchweight (195 lb) bout: Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva
Heavyweight bout: Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez-I love both of these guys though!
Welterweight bout: Mike Swick vs. Ben Saunders
Welterweight bout: Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy
Lightweight bout: Spencer Fisher vs. Caol Uno[

[Evan]

I can though

Catchweight (195 lb) bout: Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva
Heavyweight bout: Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez-I love both of these guys though!
Welterweight bout: Mike Swick vs. Ben Saunders
Welterweight bout: Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy
Lightweight bout: Spencer Fisher vs. Caol Uno[

My card will be similar to this

[dallaskd]

Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva
Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez
Mike Swick vs. Ben Saunders
Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy
Spencer Fisher vs. Caol Uno

[polandprzem]

Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva
Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez
Mike Swick vs. Ben Saunders
Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy
Spencer Fisher vs. Caol Uno
Mirko Filipovic vs Mustafa Al-Turk

[TheTruth]

Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva
Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez
Mike Swick vs. Ben Saunders
Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy
Spencer Fisher vs. Caol Uno

[Rip-Hamilton32]

Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva
Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez
Mike Swick vs. Ben Saunders
Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy
Spencer Fisher vs. Caol Uno

what he said

[djohn14]

Nobody is picking Cain Velasquez?

[dbreiden83080]

Wandy needs this win badly but i have to go with Rich here. He is more technical and has more left in the tank i believe.. Rest of this card, i'm not sure..

[dbreiden83080]

Nobody is picking Cain Velasquez?

I might gotta think about it..

[ATRAIN]

Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva
Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez
Mike Swick vs. Ben Saunders
Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy
Spencer Fisher vs. Caol Uno
Mostapha Al-turk vs. Mirko Filipović

[LEONARD]

Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva
Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez
Mike Swick vs. Ben Saunders
Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy
Spencer Fisher vs. Caol Uno

and Crocop

[dbreiden83080]

Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva


U picking with your heart on this one?

[ATRAIN]

a lot of different picks from everyone, this fight will shake some shit up in our predictions.

[LEONARD]

U picking with your heart on this one?

Nah, I think Wanderlei can pull it off...he's not much of an underdog on the betting lines.

[angelbelow]

Go wandy!

[angelbelow]

Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva
Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez
Mike Swick vs. Ben Saunders
Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy
Spencer Fisher vs. Caol Uno

[Evan]

take a breath
reload for another card next weekend!

[djohn14]

I really think this card is going to be a great card...I can see it with my face

[polandprzem]

Yea well I was thinking about this card today, and well we do not have much spectacular names and title fights but it can be something.

Hardy vs Hand Granade - it will be a standup battle for death
Wandy vs Franklin - wand want's exchange Franklin probably wants more perfection also in a stand up. Hit and move.
You've got two heaviweights which are close to making a title shot, both wants to prove they a title worthy. Kongo a kickboxing machine vs Cain the Versitile
Mike Swick - I liike the guy - he is exlosive , so I can't really wait for that one

Wait

Cro Cop !

[oligarchy]

Catchweight (195 lb) bout: Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva
Heavyweight bout: Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez
Welterweight bout: Mike Swick vs. Ben Saunders
Welterweight bout: Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy
Lightweight bout: Spencer Fisher vs. Caol Uno

[djohn14]

Heavyweight bout: Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez


Thank you!

[desflood]

Sorry I missed WEC. The old man is on his second TDY within a month and once again I'm stuck alone with three crazy kids on summer break. Kori needs to find an emoticon for "tearing my hair out", lol.

Main card

Catchweight (195 lb) bout: Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva
Heavyweight bout: Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez
Welterweight bout: Mike Swick vs. Ben Saunders
Welterweight bout: Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy
Lightweight bout: Spencer Fisher vs. Caol Uno

Preliminary card

Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic vs. Mustapha Al-Turk
Lightweight bout: Terry Etim vs. Justin Buchholz
Lightweight bout: Dennis Siver vs. Dale Hartt
Welterweight bout: Paul Taylor vs. Peter Sobotta
Lightweight bout: Paul Kelly vs. Rolando Delgado
Heavyweight bout: Denis Stojnic vs. Stefan Struve
Welterweight bout: John Hathaway vs. Rick Story

I'll make a few more picks as the week goes on.

[dbreiden83080]

Sorry I missed WEC. The old man is on his second TDY within a month and once again I'm stuck alone with three crazy kids on summer break. Kori needs to find an emoticon for "tearing my hair out", lol.

Main card

Catchweight (195 lb) bout: Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva
Heavyweight bout: Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez
Welterweight bout: Mike Swick vs. Ben Saunders
Welterweight bout: Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy
Lightweight bout: Spencer Fisher vs. Caol Uno

Preliminary card

Lightweight bout: Terry Etim vs. Justin Buchholz
Lightweight bout: Dennis Siver vs. Dale Hartt
Welterweight bout: Paul Taylor vs. Peter Sobotta
Lightweight bout: Paul Kelly vs. Rolando Delgado
Heavyweight bout: Denis Stojnic vs. Stefan Struve
Welterweight bout: John Hathaway vs. Rick Story

I'll make a few more picks as the week goes on.

Check Des out, taking full advantage of the NEW picking undercards rule, and making more work for me having to look that crap up.. :lol

[dbreiden83080]

BTW if Wandy loses, is this his last fight in the UFC??

[Evan]

BTW if Wandy loses, is this his last fight in the UFC??

I doubt it. People love his ass too much

[polandprzem]

Nobody is predicting a CroCop fight?

[ATRAIN]

damn I cant believe this is sat already, we have been treated to 3 good fights over the last two weekends. Kick ASS!!

[LEONARD]

If Wand was to get violently KO'd again, then who knows. But a tough loss wouldn't be the end for him...

[dbreiden83080]

Nobody is predicting a CroCop fight?

Good point, i don't know why that wasn't in there..

Heavyweight bout: Mostapha Al-turk vs. Mirko Filipović

So we'll still pick 5 including undercards and here is the Mirko fight..


http://mmamania.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/ufc99-comeback.jpg

Gotta get Herring off that poster..

Event Preview..


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Main card

Catchweight (195 lb) bout: Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva
Heavyweight bout: Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez
Welterweight bout: Mike Swick vs. Ben Saunders
Welterweight bout: Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy
Lightweight bout: Spencer Fisher vs. Caol Uno
Heavyweight bout: Mostapha Al-turk vs. Mirko Filipović
Preliminary card

Lightweight bout: Terry Etim vs. Justin Buchholz
Lightweight bout: Dennis Siver vs. Dale Hartt
Welterweight bout: Paul Taylor vs. Peter Sobotta
Lightweight bout: Paul Kelly vs. Rolando Delgado
Heavyweight bout: Denis Stojnic vs. Stefan Struve
Welterweight bout: John Hathaway vs. Rick Story

Probably not many will get into this with UFC 100 soon after but a few fights should be good.

[djohn14]

Well, of course I got Cro Cop...he better win.

[dbreiden83080]

Well, of course I got Cro Cop...he better win.

For me Mirko being back is really proof of how the UFC has tried very hard to get Fedor. So many of his fanboys just blame the UFC and Dana for him not being signed but look at Mirko. Dude was a stud for years in Pride, comes to the UFC with a nice deal, fights terribly, is gone then gets a few wins elsewhere and he's back. I laugh whenever i hear about it's on the UFC in regards to Fedor. It's pretty clear he and his MGT don't want to be there..

[ATRAIN]

Well, of course I got Cro Cop...he better win.

same here

[dbreiden83080]

same here

Gotta pick him, hopefully he has a nice return win to the UFC..

[Mugshot]

Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva
Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez
Mike Swick vs. Ben Saunders
Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy
Spencer Fisher vs. Caol Uno

[dbreiden83080]

Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva
Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez
Mike Swick vs. Ben Saunders
Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy
Spencer Fisher vs. Caol Uno

Nice, Welcome Mugshot

I might be the only one leaning towards Dan Hardy on this card..

[dbreiden83080]

Main card

Catchweight (195 lb) bout: Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva- Actually Pulling for Wandy here but don't see him getting inside and doing damage. Think he'll get picked apart on the outside, excited to see it though..


Heavyweight bout: Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez Super-Tough fight to call but like Cain's wrestling and this is short notice for Kongo. He's got lots of experience though. Could go either way..


Welterweight bout: Mike Swick vs. Ben Saunders, interesting fight Saunders doesn't really have any impressive wins over a top fighter, so going with the favorite here..


Welterweight bout: Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy Probably regret it but going with Hardy here. He is 8 years younger with way more upside IMO than Davis. But yeah he might get KO'd, we'll see..


Mostapha Al-turk vs. Mirko Filipović Lets go Cro Cop!!

[djohn14]

This is who Im picking and why

Silva-I can just see him KTFO out Franklin...pretty early too.
Velasquez-Everyone knows my man crush on him, but I have one on Kongo too....I have to go with Cain though because he is way more balanced.
Swick-Saunders could pull it out, but I gotta go with Swick.
Davis-I dont know...its a toss up for me, because I can Hardy winning it...I just dont know.
Fisher-I just dont know...I never was a big Uno fan, im happy to see him back, but I dont see him being a better fighter then Fisher.

[ATRAIN]

This is who Im picking and why

Silva-I can just see him KTFO out Franklin...pretty early too.
Velasquez-Everyone knows my man crush on him, but I have one on Kongo too....I have to go with Cain though because he is way more balanced.
Swick-Saunders could pull it out, but I gotta go with Swick.
Davis-I dont know...its a toss up for me, because I can Hardy winning it...I just dont know.
Fisher-I just dont know...I never was a big Uno fan, im happy to see him back, but I dont see him being a better fighter then Fisher.

no one cares your not in first anymore ;) hahahha

[dbreiden83080]

Silva-I can just see him KTFO out Franklin...pretty early too.


Yeah i see it the opposite. Rich is real technical, has great cardio and always a good gameplan. Wandy coming at him looking to swarm him, i just don't see it...

[dbreiden83080]

no one cares your not in first anymore ;) hahahha

Neither are you ya Douche.. :hat


This is who Im picking and why

Silva-I can just see him KTFO out Franklin...pretty early too.
Velasquez-Everyone knows my man crush on him, but I have one on Kongo too....I have to go with Cain though because he is way more balanced.
Swick-Saunders could pull it out, but I gotta go with Swick.
Davis-I dont know...its a toss up for me, because I can Hardy winning it...I just dont know.
Fisher-I just dont know...I never was a big Uno fan, im happy to see him back, but I dont see him being a better fighter then Fisher.

Hey look someone else actually explained their picks, now there's a concept.. :downspin:

[djohn14]

no one cares your not in first anymore ;) hahahha

Just taking some time off haha

[ATRAIN]

Yeah i see it the opposite. Rich is real technical, has great cardio and always a good gameplan. Wandy coming at him looking to swarm him, i just don't see it...

yeah I have to agree here

[ATRAIN]

Hey look someone else actually explained their picks, now there's a concept.. :downspin:

ill do it for 100 :) I think we all should for 100 since its a big event.

[ATRAIN]

Neither are you ya Douche.. :hat






Just taking some time off haha

Well I know im not im going to take it at the list minute to crush everyones hopes and dreams so to all those keeping 1st warm for me thank you in advance :).

[polandprzem]

ill do it for 100 :) I think we all should for 100 since its a big event.

At least 200 words on every fight


:huddle:

[polandprzem]

:lmao

[polandprzem]

You guys ...

I'm going on a wedding on the 11th !!!


I fricking must be home back before 4am!

[LEONARD]

I really wish they get rid of the lame visual and sound effects on the Countdown shows...so cheesy.

[djohn14]

You guys ...

I'm going on a wedding on the 11th !!!


I fricking must be home back before 4am!

You go to too many damn weddings haha

[dbreiden83080]

I really wish they get rid of the lame visual and sound effects on the Countdown shows...so cheesy.

Oh i absolutely love it. They used to be lame. Pretty much just Dana White ranting about the fights for a few min and a quick look at the camp. They revamped them, with more background and much better production value. UFC Primetime was amazing, they really have their act together on these pre-hype shows..

[djohn14]

Does Andre and Cameron fight tonight?

[dbreiden83080]

Djohn that was a great piece on Cain last night, you must be psyched. Short notice for Kongo but this is Cain's shot for credibility. Win convincingly and a title shot will be around the corner..

[djohn14]

Idk why I put that in here thats TUF stuff haha...but Yes I was...I turned it on when they just started talking about him...i had forgot about it....All I caught was the one for him and Kongo, but yes I really enjoyed it.

[LEONARD]

Oh i absolutely love it. They used to be lame. Pretty much just Dana White ranting about the fights for a few min and a quick look at the camp. They revamped them, with more background and much better production value. UFC Primetime was amazing, they really have their act together on these pre-hype shows..

The shows are great, but we don't need sound effects and flashes of light when punches or kicks connect. Lame...

[LEONARD]

Crocop documentary (not new)

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[dallaskd]

good stuff leonard

[polandprzem]

You go to too many damn weddings haha

Exactly, and what they need it for anyway?

And why they doing it when the UFC is at the same day?

:)


Sorry for an off-topic

[cornbread]

Catchweight (195 lb) bout: Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva
Heavyweight bout: Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez
Welterweight bout: Mike Swick vs. Ben Saunders
Welterweight bout: Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy
Lightweight bout: Spencer Fisher vs. Caol Uno
Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic vs. Mustapha Al-Turk

[dbreiden83080]

Main card

Catchweight (195 lb) bout: Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva- Actually Pulling for Wandy here but don't see him getting inside and doing damage. Think he'll get picked apart on the outside, excited to see it though..


Heavyweight bout: Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez Super-Tough fight to call but like Cain's wrestling and this is short notice for Kongo. He's got lots of experience though. Could go either way..


Welterweight bout: Mike Swick vs. Ben Saunders, interesting fight Saunders doesn't really have any impressive wins over a top fighter, so going with the favorite here..


Welterweight bout: Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy Probably regret it but going with Hardy here. He is 8 years younger with way more upside IMO than Davis. But yeah he might get KO'd, we'll see..


Mostapha Al-turk vs. Mirko Filipović Lets go Cro Cop!!

Catchweight (195 lb) bout: Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva Switching to Wandy here, don't know why, just a gut feeling, probably gonna regret it..

[desflood]

Nah. Always go with your instinct. It'll steer you right more times than wrong.

[dbreiden83080]

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[polandprzem]

U guys gonna watch it live?

2pm your time

[polandprzem]

weight-ins

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=videoPlayer.home&gid=20452


And now tell me that this ufc girls are pretty ... :rolleyes

[polandprzem]

WTF is that negative press? The barbarians?

I don't get it, and fighters got to explain what MMA and UFC is?

[Evan]

Germans aint so smrt

[Evan]

Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva
Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez
Mike Swick vs. Ben Saunders
Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy
Spencer Fisher vs. Caol Uno

and Crocop

no way...you aren't picking Davis? :lol

Rich Franklin vs. Wanderlei Silva - Silva still has some fight left in him
Cheick Kongo vs. Cain Velasquez - very difficult choice
Mike Swick vs. Ben Saunders - underrated fight
Marcus Davis vs. Dan Hardy
Spencer Fisher vs. Caol Uno - I don't like either of these guys to be honest
Mirko Filipovic vs Mustafa Al-Turk - I finally get to see Cro Cop live.


All in all this is the best foreign UFC card ever.

[polandprzem]

Germans aint so smrt

That what I do agree :)

Besides they have the tabloids all over the place. They putting up so much shit in their papers it's ridiculous.


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Damn I can't wait for this 111111111111111

[RocketsBlood]

U guys gonna watch it live?

2pm your time


Someone post the winners:toast

[polandprzem]

Really good fights, but Germans are booing almost everything

[desflood]

Whooooooo!

[Evan]

No spoilers until everyone gets a chance to see the fight tonight but holy shit...good fights.

this German crowd SUCKS

[polandprzem]

No spoilers until everyone gets a chance to see the fight tonight but holy shit...good fights.

this German crowd SUCKS

I just ended watching this UFC event

You gonna love it :)

some pretty nice matchups

[Evan]

you guys that didn't see this live have a great fight night ahead of you.

Worst fans in MMA, Germans and Californians. Unreal. Stupid fans.

[polandprzem]

you guys that didn't see this live have a great fight night ahead of you.

Worst fans in MMA, Germans and Californians. Unreal. Stupid fans.

Hey - Chicago was bad as well

I'm going to sleep


Good night

[BlackSwordsMan]

Shit!!!

[BlackSwordsMan]

probably no spoilers in here but I'm very sad in a certain ex-pride fighter

[polandprzem]

Shit!!!

I need some sleep, do not get pissed about it ...

[BlackSwordsMan]

here's something funny to cheer you up
Professional Bouts:
Tuan Pfam (126) vs. Sean Hall (123.6)
Nick Rossborough (184.6) vs. Keith Johnson (182.6)
Josh Barnes (270) vs. Brad Tidwell (330)
Juan Zapata (160) vs. Joe Jordan (170.8)
Bryan Goldsby (135.6) vs. Joey Marimberga (136)
John Salter (184.6) vs. Roberto Traven (183)
Sasuke Zapata (165.6) vs. Rich Clementi (170.2)
Chris Davis (203.2) vs. Jeremy Horn (204.8)
Ray Mercer (256.6) vs. Tim Sylvia (310.6)

[Evan]

I don't want to spoil anything but there seems to be some serious fall out from this fight..

whelp....

[djohn14]

I dont want to spoil anything...but Im a happy camper!

[Evan]

well by now this won't be a spoiler...

Cro Cop is a fucking embarrassment to MMA. He shits his pants in the UFC, asks to be released and the UFC obliges. He begs to come back and Dana lets him back on a verbal agreement over supposedly 2 hours worth of phone calls where he gave the UFC his word he would fight again if he won. He turns down several fighters until he finds an easy opponent in Turk. He gets put on TV and wins by a fluke eye poke then grabs his dress and signs with DREAM immediately after the fight is over breaking his word. WTF?!?!

The first time Dana ever does a verbal agreement and he get's screwed. Kinda like the first time he tried to cross promote with PRIDE he got screwed, twice. People cry about Dana being inflexible but every time he is it seems like the UFC gets screwed over by someone.

Cro Cop isn't even a top 20 fighter anymore...Mustafa was walking him down much of the fight.

[Evan]

$50 says the UFC doesn't even show the Cro Cop fight on the replay....

[Evan]

well by now this won't be a spoiler...

Cro Cop is a fucking embarrassment to MMA. He shits his pants in the UFC, asks to be released and the UFC obliges. He begs to come back and Dana lets him back on a verbal agreement over supposedly 2 hours worth of phone calls where he gave the UFC his word he would fight again if he won. He turns down several fighters until he finds an easy opponent in Turk. He gets put on TV and wins by a fluke eye poke then grabs his dress and signs with DREAM immediately after the fight is over breaking his word. WTF?!?!

The first time Dana ever does a verbal agreement and he get's screwed. Kinda like the first time he tried to cross promote with PRIDE he got screwed, twice. People cry about Dana being inflexible but every time he is it seems like the UFC gets screwed over by someone.

Cro Cop isn't even a top 20 fighter anymore...Mustafa was walking him down much of the fight.

and to be clear...I don't even care that he signed with dream...its just so weird that he approached the UFC, lied and then signs with Dream right after he stood in the Octagon thanking the UFC and Dana over & over.

Its just so classless...the timing is bizarre....

[Evan]

COLOGNE, Germany – Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic’s return to the Ultimate Fighting Championship was a short one.

Not long after stopping Mostapha Al-Turk in the first round of UFC 99 on Saturday at Lanxess Arena in his first fight in the UFC since back-to-back losses in 2007, Filipovic informed UFC president Dana White that he had signed a three-fight contract with the Japan-based DREAM.

White had signed Filipovic less than a month ago to a one-fight deal, the first time in more than nine years that he’d done that. He had worked out terms on two additional fights, but said he’d only put pen to paper for Saturday’s bout.

He brought Filipovic back because he knew the Croat is still very popular and Filipovic insisted he wanted to make a run for the title.


That proved not to be the truth. After turning down much tougher opposition, including Cain Velasquez, who defeated Cheick Kongo later on the card, he wound up with the lightly regarded Al-Turk.

But instead of getting a shot at big names like Randy Couture or Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira and fighting his way into title contention, Filipovic opted to bolt for Japan.

“Isn’t that a dirty [expletive] thing to do?” White asked rhetorically after being queried about Filipovic’s deal with DREAM. “He [expletived] me. The first time in the history of the company I do one over the phone. He promised me a three-fight deal and he [expletived] me.”

Filipovic looked unsteady and hardly impressive in defeating Al-Turk, who is winless in the UFC. He never landed one of his vaunted kicks and the fight ended not from a punch but when he poked Al-Turk in the eye with his finger.

Referee Dan Miragliotta didn’t see the poke, so it was regarded as a clean blow and Filipovic won by stoppage.

Filipovic was fighting five months to the day after knee surgery, one of several injuries he said kept him from performing at his best in his first stint in the UFC. Before the fight, he called his 1-2 UFC record “the black spot” on his career.

While speaking with reporters on a prefight conference call, Filipovic enthused about his return and said he was gunning for a title shot. All the while, he apparently knew he was in it for a one-fight deal.

He texted White on White’s cellular phone and told him he wanted to return. White said Filipovic declined numerous opponents.

Apparently, Filipovic, who is from Croatia, wanted to fight in Germany and use the UFC bout as a tuneup. He did and is now Dream bound, but he’ll almost certainly never fight in the UFC again.

“He didn’t keep his word,” White said, who said he’d had a two-hour talk with Filipovic on the day Filipovic texted and asked to be able to return. “He talked about honor and all this other [expletive] and he [expletived] me.

“He fed me this bull [expletive] about wanting to take a run for the title, and what I think he did was, he went out and did this. He turned down every other [expletive] fighter I offered him, because I needed him to fight Cain. He didn’t just poke Al-Turk; he poked me, too.”

As is his custom, Filipovic skipped the postfight news conference and could not be reached to comment on the DREAM deal.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=AnXdq5QUsKOysre_Ix5gJ3Q9Eo14?slug=ki-ufcnotes061409&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[dbreiden83080]

WOW, i don't know what to say about Mirko, i waited until 10 PM east time to get the PPV for this. Avoiding any news.. So it's breaking news to me.. He should not have done that. He looked okay in the fight, not great but i was glad he won, but what a dick-head for doing that. I don't get why he would, i mean come on dude.

Cain is for real but i will be real curious to see him against a Brock or a Carwin. See what happens against another great wrestler. But he is for real..

Dan Hardy won for sure, SD my ass he did so much more damage in that fight it is crazy..

Wandy and Rich 4 words

"What a Fuckin War"

I thought maybe Wandy pulled it out there, but Rich probably did more, amazing fight. He is probably the only guy losing 5 of 6 you want to see fight again and again..

Went 4-1 on the card, switched to Wandy at the last minute, but oh well.

[dbreiden83080]

I see on the Sherdog Play by play 2 had it for Wandy it was a true war and very close..

[JustBlaze]

That's what Dana gets for signing the guy up for only a 1 fight deal to begin with. It's hilarious reading the "He promised me a three fight wahh...wahhh" crap. The way I see it, had Al Turk beaten Mirko, Dana wouldn't have wanted him back nor cry foul had Mirko walked out on them, but oh no, it's the other way around and he ends up getting screwed. Frankly, he had it coming. But then again, that's just his side of the story. And about the 1 fight deal, doesn't that seem a little fishy especially if the guy "promised" you a three fight deal? Why not sign the guy for the full amount? Is it really that much of a hassle to try and work out a 3 fight deal vs a 1 fight deal? Still, I can't say I was all that happy with the outcome of that match, ref should've seen the poke and/or should've been ruled a NC. Also, LOL @ Sylvia getting KTFO by Mercer in just 9 secs of the fight.:lmao:lmao:lmao

[dbreiden83080]

Tim's career is over.. Showing up 310 pds, shows he has no desire to fight anymore. It's a shame since at one time he was one of the best heavyweights out there, but he doesn't wanna fight anymore..

Fedor seems to have taken whatever fight he had left out of him

[dbreiden83080]

You hate to say it but Mirko is pure and simple, an A-Hole!!



http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Mirko+Filipovic+renegs+verbal+agreement+after+tain ted+loss/1694210/story.html


There are few names in the world of mixed martial arts that rival the recognition, especially globally, of Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic.


But the legacy of Cro Cop may now be one of double-dealings, after a tainted win at UFC 99 was followed by the Croatian kickboxer reneging on a verbal agreement to sign a multi-fight deal with the UFC, after the organization had given him a previously unheard of single-fight deal.


A former member of the Croatian parliament, ATJ Lučko anti-terrorism commando, and a long-time headkicker in the Pride FC, DREAM, K-1 and UFC promotions, the 6'2" 230 lb beast has flattened some of the biggest names in the sport with his trademark left high kick.


But Saturday, in front of 12,800 fans in Cologne, German, CroCop looked uneasy on his return to the UFC against the largely unheralded Mostpaha Al-Turk.


Taking several blows from the expected human sacrifice, Filipovic struggled to find his rhythm until a quick shot to the head rattled the big man from Britain. As Cro Cop moved in for the kill, he shot out an open hand and thumbed Al-Turk in the eye, unseen by the referee.


As the British submission wrestler held his eyes with both hands and turned away from his opponent, futilely hoping for a halt to proceedings, Cro Cop dove in and unloaded a barrage of blows, ultimately forcing a referee stoppage when Al-Turk dropped to the floor.


When showed footage of the eye poke afterwards, Filipovic shrugged it off, saying, "it doesn't really matter in a fight." The crowd responded with boos.


Within minutes of returning to the dressing room, Filipovic delivered his second cheap shot of the evening, telling UFC President Dana White that the first single-fight UFC agreement in nine years would not result in the multi-fight deal Cro Cop had verbally agreed to previously. Instead, Filipovic admitted he had already signed a three-fight deal with Japan's DREAM organization.


"Isn’t that a dirty f---ing thing to do?” White asked Yahoo's Kevin Iole. “He f---ed me. The first time in the history of the company I do [a verbal agreement] over the phone. He promised me a three-fight deal and he f---ed me.”


Filipovic had previously told fans he wanted to make a run at the UFC heavyweight title, and reinforced that line to the crowd immediately after his win. Alas, it seems Filipovic was lying through his teeth.


According to White, Cro Cop turned down several top ten opponents for his return to the Ultimate Fighting Championship.


“He fed me this bullshit about wanting to take a run for the title, and what I think he did was, he went out and did this," White told Iole. "He turned down every other f---ing fighter I offered him, because I needed him to fight Cain. He didn’t just poke Al-Turk; he poked me, too.”


White said he had initially received a text message from Filipovic asking to return, which resulted in a two hour conversation "about honour."


Cro Cop did not show up for the post-fight press conference.

[polandprzem]

:lol

He fucked me and poked me

:lol

[Evan]

That's what Dana gets for signing the guy up for only a 1 fight deal to begin with. It's hilarious reading the "He promised me a three fight wahh...wahhh" crap. The way I see it, had Al Turk beaten Mirko, Dana wouldn't have wanted him back nor cry foul had Mirko walked out on them, but oh no, it's the other way around and he ends up getting screwed. Frankly, he had it coming. But then again, that's just his side of the story. And about the 1 fight deal, doesn't that seem a little fishy especially if the guy "promised" you a three fight deal? Why not sign the guy for the full amount? Is it really that much of a hassle to try and work out a 3 fight deal vs a 1 fight deal? Still, I can't say I was all that happy with the outcome of that match, ref should've seen the poke and/or should've been ruled a NC. Also, LOL @ Sylvia getting KTFO by Mercer in just 9 secs of the fight.:lmao:lmao:lmao

Yeah if he lost there was no deal...that was the entire point.

What you aren't getting is Cro Cop called Dana begging back, not the other way around.

Look I am one of the biggest Cro Cop fans of all time but the fact is, once Cro Cop realized he still couldn't cut it he turned and ran away. Imediately.

If this had happened two weeks from now I wouldn't care. But the fact that it happened immediately after he stood in that octagon thanking the UFC for letting him back is what bothers me.

[Evan]

anyway... JustBlaze.....you need to post more brutha!

[Evan]

And 1 more thing.

Believe me...I like seeing Dana get humbled but not by a fighter turning into a coward after he gave his word.

I know we still need to hear Cro Cop's side but as someone who has read everything about Cro Cop possible I can assure you whatever Cro Cop says will be contradicted, by himself, several times over the next year. He's a very strange fella.

[Evan]

Within minutes of returning to the dressing room, Filipovic delivered his second cheap shot of the evening, telling UFC President Dana White that the first single-fight UFC agreement in nine years would not result in the multi-fight deal Cro Cop had verbally agreed to previously. Instead, Filipovic admitted he had already signed a three-fight deal with Japan's DREAM organization.

Ok its even worse than I thought.....
:bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang

[desflood]

Some are going to look at this and say, "You know, Dana White has been screwing fighters for years now. He's finally gotten a taste of his own medicine. Hope he chokes on it." That may or may not be true, but one thing is for certain: This will make him more ruthless in his dealings with other fighters in the UFC. Crocop screwed many, many more people than just Dana White.

[dbreiden83080]

Some are going to look at this and say, "You know, Dana White has been screwing fighters for years now. He's finally gotten a taste of his own medicine. Hope he chokes on it." That may or may not be true, but one thing is for certain: This will make him more ruthless in his dealings with other fighters in the UFC. Crocop screwed many, many more people than just Dana White.

I am no Dana fan at all and it is nice to see him eat some crow but this for me is just about Mirko. Nobody can take away his legacy in his pride days but the fact is he flamed out badly in his first run with the UFC. Comes back for one fight against a talior made opponent for him and does an underhanded deal under the table with another organization beforehand. He has really tainted himself with this nonsense..

[dbreiden83080]

"Within minutes of returning to the dressing room, Filipovic delivered his second cheap shot of the evening, telling UFC President Dana White that the first single-fight UFC agreement in nine years would not result in the multi-fight deal Cro Cop had verbally agreed to previously. Instead, Filipovic admitted he had already signed a three-fight deal with Japan's DREAM organization."

Oh how badly i would have loved to have been there to see what Dana's reaction was.. Maybe it will make it to his Blog.. :lol

[djohn14]

I dont think Dana is going to lose sleep over an over the hill heavy weight who wont even take a big fight anymore. I was disappointed in Cains performance. And thats strange because he dominated a legit contender, but Cain has to finish that. Plus he was rocked at least twice. Anyway, I compare what he did to Kongo to what Carmelo Marrero did to Kongo, and thats sad because he is so much more talented.

[djohn14]

I compare what he did to Kongo to what Carmelo Marrero did to Kongo.
Of course that was a different Kongo back then as he has vastly improved.

[tlongII]

Cro Cop knows he would get crushed in the UFC. That's why he signed with Dream.

[oligarchy]

Of course that was a different Kongo back then as he has vastly improved.

I wouldn't say vastly improved. He's improved a little bit, but his takedown defense is still horrid. His ground game is still completely lacking. If he had better takedown defense, the fight would have been over earlier. Don't get me wrong, that's Cain's strong point, but it's also Kongo's weakest point. It's the reason I picked Cain to win.

[dbreiden83080]

I dont think Dana is going to lose sleep over an over the hill heavy weight who wont even take a big fight anymore. I was disappointed in Cains performance. And thats strange because he dominated a legit contender, but Cain has to finish that. Plus he was rocked at least twice. Anyway, I compare what he did to Kongo to what Carmelo Marrero did to Kongo, and thats sad because he is so much more talented.

Cain is a great fighter for sure and he beat the hell out of Kongo, but yeah he has to finish that. I don't see big power from him, like a Carwin or a Brock has. So his wrestling is just huge for him.. He gets it down, he wins. He needs more work on the other areas, but he is young..

[JustBlaze]

CroCop denies signing with DREAM. http://www.mmascraps.net/2009/06/mirko-crocop-denies-signing-with-dream.html
From this Croatian news site, translated by someone on the Sherdog forums. ZAGREB - The same Saturday night in which Mirko Filipović in only three minutes TKOed Britain Mostapha Al Turk, President of American Organization UFC Dana White without any argument accused the Croatian master of the ultimat fighting for the fraud and hypocrisy. Ten days ago Dana White and Cro Cop have a phone made arrangements for the duel on the UFC 99 tournament in Cologne Lanxess Arena, leaving open the possibility that cooperation prolongs for the two further tournaments. However, the head of the UFC on Saturday felt fooled because he thought that the Croatian gladiator signed a new contract with the Japanese Dream. Before we accuse Crocop for hypocrisy, let us see what lays below Dana White's empty phrase of honor. UFC leader is angry because Mirko, just as Fedor Emilianenko, the best MMA fighter in the world, did not agree to perform only twice in the next 12 months. However, it is not true that Cro Cop signed with Dream. We have learned that Mirko Crocop still did not sign neither with Dream nor with UFC, and that he is ready to discuss any offer. Moreover, Mirko expected after the victory in Cologne immediate talks with Dana White about the new contract and is surprised by the accusations of UFC's president. "I don’t know why White listened to the roumors instead of talking to me. I hoped that we will talk about a continuing of our collaboration, because the only obstacle was the long period between two fights that has been offered to me. I don’t want to sit at home so long and waiting that someone calls me for a figh. However, I am grateful to Dana White for an opportunity to fight in Cologne and despite his harsh words, I don’t see the reason that we don’t prolong the contract – explained Mirko after returning from Germany. White gave Crocop the opportunity to fight in Cologne to use his charisma of the most popular European fighter and suggested two more bouts, under the condition that he doesn’t fight for other promotions. Because Dream offered him also three-fights contract, but in the next 6 months, why shouldn’t Mirko take some time to consider what is better to him? Well who knows what is going on now. Here's hoping they can rectify the situation. I've been reading some of your comments and have some thoughts. To begin with I'm all for DREAM becoming the next Pride and signing big name fighters, but lets be honest, its not going to happen anytime soon. Fedor/Crocop 2 is something I would watch, but its not as intriguing as Mirko taking a run at the UFC title. Secondly, is there a side of me that is rolling and laughing all over the floor that Dana White(possibly) got completely punk'd? Yes, it is a little satisfying. The problem is it is not more satisfying than a career revival UFC heavyweight title run by Crocop. Interesting...

[polandprzem]

Lost in translation?

[Evan]

Lost in translation?

stuff like this always happens with Mirko. I can almost guarantee his camp did this on purpose.

[LEONARD]

Holy hell...
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/6/15/910124/stefan-struve-shows-his-cut

[cornbread]

Holy hell...
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/6/15/910124/stefan-struve-shows-his-cut

"My trainers always tell me to be respectful to my opponent."

Doesn't he train under Bob "Dirty Bob" Schrijber? :lol

[Evan]

Sergio Non has written the following:

Soon after beating Mostapha al-Turk on Saturday at UFC 99, Filipovic told UFC officials that he has signed a three-fight deal with the Japanese organization Dream, Yahoo Sports’ Kevin Iole first reported. The news was later confirmed to me in an e-mail from Mike Kogan, who runs the U.S. operation of Dream’s parent company, Fighting and Entertainment Group.

Dave Meltzer wrote this:

My belief is that he hasn't signed with anyone because the whole leverage of doing a one-fight deal is to play the sides against each other. Of course he's got one side (agent Ken Imai) telling Dream he's with them, particularly because he told them ahead of time in the event he lost. Now that he won, they can play both sides.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/6/14/909251/thoughts-on-the-always-changing