Differences between Liberals and Conservatives.

[2centsworth]

Study finds College’s and Universities are overwhelmingly liberal.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8427-2005Mar28.html?nav=rss_politics

Nevertheless, more college graduates voted for Bush than Kerry. Also, most people who earned 50k or more also voted for Bush.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html



Conclusion, people with real world experience tend to vote conservative and those who stay in academia tend to vote liberal.

Am I wrong? What other observations can be made?

[MannyIsGod]

Ok, if this motherfucker doesn't get grilled the way I did.....

[GoldToe]

That is total BS. Real life experiences my ass.
Just goes to show that the upper class votes for the upper class.

For conservative it is all about the benjamins.

For liberals it is all about the people.

next!

[desflood]

That is total BS. Real life experiences my ass.
Just goes to show that the upper class votes for the upper class.

For conservative it is all about the benjamins.

For liberals it is all about the people.

next!
That's funny. I've know far more poor conservatives and rich liberals than the other way around.

[Spurminator]

For conservative it is all about the benjamins.

For liberals it is all about the people.


You're right. I can't think of a single Liberal initiative that involves people getting money.

[exstatic]

I can't think of a single Liberal initiative that involves people getting money.
Liberals give it out, Cons hoard it for themselves. ;)

[JoeChalupa]

Personally I don't think income level or education level should be a factor.

I know people who are totally opposite of the studies findings.

I'm probably more liberal due to my upbringing but I'm sure there are those who were brought up the same who are conservative. Go figure.

[Bandit2981]

conservatives are children of the lord and liberals are babykillers!

[Guru of Nothing]

Liberals give it out, Cons hoard it for themselves. ;)

What you call IT, I call MY MONEY. Well, in my dreams it's that way.

Of course neo-cons give IT out too. They just give it to someone else.

[Spurminator]

I would say both sides probably give equally, all told.








It's just that one side wants giving to be mandatory. :P

[exstatic]

conservatives are children of the lordhttp://www.monsterzine.com/200201/images/corn.gif

[JoeChalupa]

:lol

[2centsworth]

That is total BS. Real life experiences my ass.
Just goes to show that the upper class votes for the upper class.

For conservative it is all about the benjamins.

For liberals it is all about the people.

next!
I just stuck to the facts. You on the other hand go with how you feel. If I'm wrong and you're right, please provide facts to back-up your claims.

[2centsworth]

Ok, if this motherfucker doesn't get grilled the way I did..... Wow Manny, I thought you were all about the logic. That's some pretty strong name calling from behind a computer. You can at least do what you do best and have an opinion first w/o research, and then go find bs facts to support your idiocy.

[Guru of Nothing]

I just stuck to the facts.

Facts are a leading cause of myopia.

[2centsworth]

Facts are a leading cause of myopia.

You're right, fuck the facts. Emotion is a much better guide for making decisions.

[Guru of Nothing]

You're right, fuck the facts. Emotion is a much better guide for making decisions.

I scratched my ass 5 times today. THAT'S A FACT.

Facts can, in fact, be worthless.

[2centsworth]

So how does that relate to the premise of the thread. At least challenge me.

[2pac]

<-- Born into poverty, worked fulltime to pay for college, got a sweet job, voted for bush

suck on that lemon

I have no idea what any of that means. Its bedtime.

[Guru of Nothing]

Okay.

You opened a thread with two sentences and made a conclusion - and little to nothing else.

I called you myopic because you selectively used facts (actually, you are myopic because you are predisposed to believe what you want to believe), and I augmented my argument against you with the "fact" that facts are overrated.

NOW, can you connect the dots?

In other words, you are fluff.

[2centsworth]

<-- Born into poverty, worked fulltime to pay for college, got a sweet job, voted for bush

suck on that lemon

I have no idea what any of that means. Its bedtime.
doesn't mean anything except that it's a trend.

[Nbadan]

Not saying that this study is probably compromised, but...


The study appears in the March issue of the Forum, an online political science journal. It was funded by the Randolph Foundation, a right-leaning group that has given grants to such conservative organizations as the Independent Women's Forum and Americans for Tax Reform.

[2centsworth]

Okay.

You opened a thread with two sentences and made a conclusion - and little to nothing else.

I called you myopic because you selectively used facts (actually, you are myopic because you are predisposed to believe what you want to believe), and I augmented my argument against you with the "fact" that facts are overrated.

NOW, can you connect the dots?

In other words, you are fluff.
You're obviously full of yourself, but I'll take the bait. Explain the following trend, as people get older they become more conservative. BTW, what do you do for a living?

[Guru of Nothing]

You're obviously full of yourself, but I'll take the bait. Explain the following trend, as people get older they become more conservative. BTW, what do you do for a living?

I'm the Maytag Repairman. What the fuck do you do for a living?

BTW, I am proud-ass Libertarian. Do you even know what a Libertarian is? I'll bet it takes you a few minutes to google and digest that.

You are funny. I'm full of myself, yet you ask me what I do for a living as though my self-worth is based upon my"job."

I'm guessing you just got promoted to Asst.Mgr. at MickeyD's.

[2centsworth]

I'm the Maytag Repairman. What the fuck do you do for a living?

BTW, I am proud-ass Libertarian. Do you even know what a Libertarian is? I'll bet it takes you a few minutes to google and digest that.

You are funny. I'm full of myself, yet you ask me what I do for a living as though my self-worth is based upon my"job."

I'm guessing you just got promoted to Asst.Mgr. at MickeyD's.
No you just come across as a snob who always shits on what others say and rarely have an opinion of your own. You package try to package it as original and I try to engage you, but it's more of the name calling bullshit that I'm used to hearing from you.

BTW, I get a email from Davey Doodle or whatever the local libertarian leader's name is. Voted for almost as many libertarians than I did republicans in the last state election.

As far as your job, I wasn't questioning your self-worth (pretty defensive). I'm just guessing you have no real world experience, or failed miserably in some business endeavor. I bet my guess is closer than yours.

[Nbadan]

Most professors I know make well over $50K per year. What does that make them?

The rich take care of the rich. W has been scratching the back of those that got him there since his first term and has been reaching into our kid's pockets to do so. No other President has dropped taxes in the middle of a war. Someday, we are going to have to pay for all these wars, and you can bet unless things change, it won't be those that are profitting most from the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq that will be paying.

Voter fraud, voter suppression, unexplainable long lines in minority and inner-city districts, 'lost' votes, and rigged State tabulation system helped to under-represent the number of people making less than $50K who would have voted for Kerry had their votes counted. The exit polls weren't wrong.

[Guru of Nothing]

No you just come across as a snob who always shits on what others say and rarely have an opinion of your own. You package try to package it as original and I try to engage you, but it's more of the name calling bullshit that I'm used to hearing from you.

BTW, I get a email from Davey Doodle or whatever the local libertarian leader's name is. Voted for almost as many libertarians than I did republicans in the last state election.

As far as your job, I wasn't questioning your self-worth (pretty defensive). I'm just guessing you have no real world experience, or failed miserably in some business endeavor. I bet my guess is closer than yours.

Well, you are cracking me up. Thanks.

Just so you may sleep well tonight, I have never failed miserably in any sort of business endeavor, which ought to relieve your tiny little mind that I will never, ever be your President.

[MannyIsGod]

Logic? Facts? Funny, I used exit polls with numbers very much like this to prove an opposite point, and I was grilled. Seems you are getting the free pass I thought you would form the bunch here that heavily favors Bush.

You strike conclusions from very shallow facts. Have at it, I really don't care. If you care to find a real reason for the way people vote perhaps a deeper study is in order, or at least one conducted by a group with out a legitimate bias.

[Extra Stout]

Liberals like to ignore the law because they think their version of morality takes precedence, they ignore facts and make decisions on bleeding-heart emotion, they infuse their ideology into other people's personal lives, and they attack as evil anybody who disagrees with them on any issue, even if they are in agreement of 95% of everything else.

The Religious Right, on the other hand, umm... err... must be liberals.

[gophergeorge]

History Lesson:

If you have a minute, this is an interesting quick read and may help clarify
many questions about our history and how society in general has developed
over the years.

Gregg Ehlers History began some 12,000 years ago. Humans existed as members
of small bands of nomadic hunter/gatherers. They lived on deer in the
mountains in the summer & would go to the beach & live on fish & lobster in
winter.

The 2 most important events in all of history were the invention of beer &
the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer.

These were the foundations of modern civilization & together were the
catalyst for the splitting of humanity into 2 distinct sub-groups:
Liberals & Conservatives.

Once beer was discovered it required grain & that was the beginning of
agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so
while our early human ancestors were sitting around waiting for them to be
invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were
formed.

Some men spent their days tracking & killing animals to B-B-Q at night while
they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as "the
Conservative movement."

Other men who were weaker & less skilled at hunting learned to ! live off the
conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's & amp; doing the dishes,
sewing, fetching & hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal
movement.

Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became
known as 'girleymen.' Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the
domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy & group hugs & the
concept of
Democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat & beer that conservatives
provided.

Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most
powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the
jackass.

Modern liberals like imported beer, but most prefer white wine or imported
bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their
beef well done. Sushi, tofu, & French food are standard liberal fare.

Another interesting revolutionary side note: most of their women have higher
testosterone levels than their men.
Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in
Hollywood & group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated
hitter rule because it wasn't "fair" to make the pitcher also bat.

Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat & still provide for
their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks,
construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, corporate
executives, soldiers, athletes & generally anyone who works productively
outside government. Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives
who
want to work for a living.

Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to "govern" the producers &
decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more
enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in
Europe when conservatives were coming to America. They crept in af! ter the
Wild
West was tame & created a business of trying to get MORE for nothing.

Here ends today's lesson in world history.

[desflood]

:lmao

[knownalien]

frankly there is very little difference between libs and convers right now.

when all the libs bent over and took one in the hole for Bush's war they lost any credibility.

when GOP brethren (controlling both houses, the administration, and the judicial branch) decided to make our country even more bloated and more expensive . . they lost all credibility.

[sickdsm]

The top 10 states in terms of giving money to charities all voted for Bush.
9 of the worst 10 states in giving money to charity voted for Kerry.

This was NOT done by total dollars. It think it was averge gave per average salary.

There goes that theory.

[Nbadan]

when all the libs bent over and took one in the hole for Bush's war they lost any credibility.

That's exactly why Progressives look at D.L.C Kool-aid drinkers (pushing the Hillary nomination) and shake their collective heads for the Democratic Party not taking this whole Terry Shiavo situation by the horns and calling out the Republican-controlled Congress and the President for going against the rule of law, and turning this situation into a three ring circus. Where the fuck is Hillary on this?