Michael Finley?

[JustinJDW]

Hey, what's up. I was wondering, when the hell do we find out if Michael Finley is going to stay with the Spurs or not? I keep checking Spurs.com, but there aren't many updates.

I thought the deadline was June 1st or something, I am not sure.

[GSH]

1. Check SpursTalk every day
2. If you suddenly see about 200 thread titles in all caps, with Finley's name in them
3. You'll know he's been re-signed

[JustinJDW]

Haha, good tips. They are true too. :lol

I'm actually hoping he doesn't resign. He is way too old and it's really about time we bring some younger talent in. Finely, Bowen and Oberto all need to go. It's about time we start bringing in guys like Marcus Williams and Ian Mahinmi into the rotation.

[DPG21920]

I believe he has until July 1st to decide. Most people wait until the deadline, it is just smart. No need to make a decision early if you do not have to.

[loveforthegame]

He has to decide by July 1st.

Last time he had this option he let the Spurs know a few days before the draft.

[mytespurs]

Do the Spurs really need his services? I think they need to move on but what do I know?

[iilluzioN]

he would be a great PLAYER COACH


instead of talking about FIN DOG, lets talk about JV.... hes the one we REALLY DONT NEED.

[loveforthegame]

They need to get some new blood in here but I have a hard time believing they'll completely overhaul this position.

Udoka is gone so that opens up 1 spot.

Bowen is very tempting to trade because of his contract. Not saying he should be traded but if there is anything to previous rumors the Spurs are willing to trade him.

[mytespurs]

They need to get some new blood in here but I have a hard time believing they'll completely overhaul this position.

Udoka is gone so that opens up 1 spot.

Bowen is very tempting to trade because of his contract. Not saying he should be traded but if there is anything to previous rumors the Spurs are willing to trade him.

What could we get in exchange for Bowen? Isn't he on the down side of his career?

[raspsa]

It all depends on Pop. If Finley feels that he's still wanted, he'll stay. Otherwise, he'll be gone IMO.

[draft87]

They need to get some new blood in here but I have a hard time believing they'll completely overhaul this position.

Udoka is gone so that opens up 1 spot.

Bowen is very tempting to trade because of his contract. Not saying he should be traded but if there is anything to previous rumors the Spurs are willing to trade him.


udoka gone for real?

[Rogue]

However much blame you guys throw on him, I still believe Fin will come back vigoreous next season and continue to produce goods as the starting SF.

[xellos88330]

Not too sure about what is going on with Finley. If he stays, he better have his "A" game all season and post-season. If not, I will wish him well. He did accomplish some good things for the Spurs.

[NewJerSpur]

Gotta' go, gotta' go.

[024]

i wonder what would happen if finley lets popovich decide whether or not he comes back.

[spursbird]

However much blame you guys throw on him, I still believe Fin will come back vigoreous next season and continue to produce goods as the starting SF.
Yep, but only in Dallas. You want him so much then why not let Cuban sign him?

[SenorSpur]

However much blame you guys throw on him, I still believe Fin will come back vigoreous next season and continue to produce goods as the starting SF.

Then you, sir, would be in the minority. :downspin:

[PeterBurns]

Why not. The guy can still put up a good game. I want to see him back for next year, but just not at 30 min a game. He's a heat check guy. If he's on, great, if not, sit him down.

[SenorSpur]

Why not. The guy can still put up a good game. I want to see him back for next year, but just not at 30 min a game. He's a heat check guy. If he's on, great, if not, sit him down.

Why not? Because the Spurs don't need a SF that can "still put up a good game". They need a SF that has the ability to provide a steady stream of offensive production on a consistent basis. At the same time, helping to defend and shutdown the player that he's guarding. That aint Finley.

Why not? Because he's a liability on defense, doesn't block out, can't create his own shot and can't get break down a defense. While he can be a serviceable shooter on occasion, Finley cannot be counted on for consistent offense on a game-to-game basis. This is an old story, but Finley is and has been a one-trick pony. His defects override any value that he brings.

Why not? Because Finley is to Pop, as candy is to Lamar Odom. If Finley is on the roster, Pop will not be able to resist the tempation of overplaying him. If the Spurs are able to successfully trade for or draft a player(s), who can earn minutes at this position, having Finley on the roster will be counterproductive and will stunt the growth and development of said player(s).

Why not? Because it's time to turn the frickin' page already. The SF position needs a complete makeover. The Spurs badly need a talent and youth injection - especially at that position. They sorely need more players, who have a better assortment of all-around skills. Investing another year in Finley gets them no closer to that goal.

Why not? Because it's 2009, not 2007. For the past 2 seasons, we've seen this movie play out and it aint good. The older players on this team have gotten older and the talent level has regressed. Meanwhile, many NBA teams have gained ground, while others have passed them by. Look at the final four teams in the NBA playoffs and find one that starts a 37 year-old SF. Don't stop there. Scan the rosters of every team in the Western Conference and see if you can find one team where the SF matchup favors the Spurs, with Finley as the starter.

With all that in mind and after watching the Spurs last 2 playoff series, versus the Fakers in '08 and the Mavs in '09, isn't enough to convince you that the time has come to move on past Finley - then nothing will ever convince you. I strongly hope that Finley either decides to retire or that the Spurs have the "difficult" conversation with him and convince him to do so. It's time to move on.

[Agloco]

Do the Spurs really need his services? I think they need to move on but what do I know?

Unfotunately, the ball isn't on the Spurs side of the court. No pun intended.

[Agloco]

why not? because the spurs don't need a sf that can "still put up a good game". They need a sf that has the ability to provide a steady stream of offensive production on a consistent basis. At the same time, helping to defend and shutdown the player that he's guarding. That aint finley.

why not? because he's a liability on defense, doesn't block out, can't create his own shot and can't get break down a defense. While he can be a serviceable shooter on occasion, finley cannot be counted on for consistent offense on a game-to-game basis. This is an old story, but finley is and has been a one-trick pony. His defects override any value that he brings.

why not? because finley is to pop, as candy is to lamar odom. If finley is on the roster, pop will not be able to resist the tempation of overplaying him. If the spurs are able to successfully trade for or draft a player(s), who can earn minutes at this position, having finley on the roster will be counterproductive and will stunt the growth and development of said player(s).

why not? because it's time to turn the frickin' page already. The sf position needs a complete makeover. The spurs badly need a talent and youth injection - especially at that position. They sorely need more players, who have a better assortment of all-around skills. Investing another year in finley gets them no closer to that goal.

why not? because it's 2009, not 2007. For the past 2 seasons, we've seen this movie play out and it aint good. The older players on this team have gotten older and the talent level has regressed. Meanwhile, many nba teams have gained ground, while others have passed them by. Look at the final four teams in the nba playoffs and find one that starts a 37 year-old sf. Don't stop there. Scan the rosters of every team in the western conference and see if you can find one team where the sf matchup favors the spurs, with finley as the starter.

With all that in mind and after watching the spurs last 2 playoff series, versus the fakers in '08 and the mavs in '09, isn't enough to convince you that the time has come to move on past finley - then nothing will ever convince you. I strongly hope that finley either decides to retire or that the spurs have the "difficult" conversation with him and convince him to do so. It's time to move on.

+1

[DPG21920]

Unfortunately, it is not up to the Spurs, but Finley. Would you just forgo 2.5M dollars?

[SenorSpur]

If Finley does elect to pick up his option and come back, then his expiring contract should be the first one the Spurs offer up in trade talks.

[benefactor]

Limited minutes...backup role...heat check guy...........:pimpslap

Finley anywhere near the Spurs bench equals too many minutes with a blind eye towards anything he does wrong.

Sorry, I fell for it last year. Shame on me if you fool me twice.

[NewJerSpur]

If Finley does elect to pick up his option and come back, then his expiring contract should be the first one the Spurs offer up in trade talks.

:tu

Is there anything in his contract that prohibits the Spurs from being able to do such? The more important question would likely be: Would Pop have the cajones to pull the trigger?

[BackHome]

Why not? Because the Spurs don't need a SF that can "still put up a good game". They need a SF that has the ability to provide a steady stream of offensive production on a consistent basis. At the same time, helping to defend and shutdown the player that he's guarding. That aint Finley.

Why not? Because he's a liability on defense, doesn't block out, can't create his own shot and can't get break down a defense. While he can be a serviceable shooter on occasion, Finley cannot be counted on for consistent offense on a game-to-game basis. This is an old story, but Finley is and has been a one-trick pony. His defects override any value that he brings.

Why not? Because Finley is to Pop, as candy is to Lamar Odom. If Finley is on the roster, Pop will not be able to resist the tempation of overplaying him. If the Spurs are able to successfully trade for or draft a player(s), who can earn minutes at this position, having Finley on the roster will be counterproductive and will stunt the growth and development of said player(s).

Why not? Because it's time to turn the frickin' page already. The SF position needs a complete makeover. The Spurs badly need a talent and youth injection - especially at that position. They sorely need more players, who have a better assortment of all-around skills. Investing another year in Finley gets them no closer to that goal.

Why not? Because it's 2009, not 2007. For the past 2 seasons, we've seen this movie play out and it aint good. The older players on this team have gotten older and the talent level has regressed. Meanwhile, many NBA teams have gained ground, while others have passed them by. Look at the final four teams in the NBA playoffs and find one that starts a 37 year-old SF. Don't stop there. Scan the rosters of every team in the Western Conference and see if you can find one team where the SF matchup favors the Spurs, with Finley as the starter.

With all that in mind and after watching the Spurs last 2 playoff series, versus the Fakers in '08 and the Mavs in '09, isn't enough to convince you that the time has come to move on past Finley - then nothing will ever convince you. I strongly hope that Finley either decides to retire or that the Spurs have the "difficult" conversation with him and convince him to do so. It's time to move on.

+1..........But I hate to say this but you can make the same argument for Bowen.

[NewJerSpur]

+1..........But I hate to say this but you can make the same argument for Bowen.

Bowen though is still to this point the best perimeter defender on the roster....and Pop might be more likely to underplay for reasons unknown to mankind.

[arodz]

I believe he has until July 1st to decide. Most people wait until the deadline, it is just smart. No need to make a decision early if you do not have to.


Actually I believe it's a players option. We have to hope he decides to hang it up.

[pad300]

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Why not? Because he's a liability on defense...


+1..........But I hate to say this but you can make the same argument for Bowen.

No, you cannot say the same for Bowen, as the series vs. Dallas illustrated. He is still more than competent as a stopper. Bowen continues to be the man. Yes, we need to move forward, because sooner or later, age will catch Bruce. But there is no need to dump Bruce, especially given how he has accepted and dealt with coming off the bench: with utmost professionalism...