**Official TUF 10 Discussion Thread**

[dbreiden83080]

Yes, because it's totally kosher to talk trash about one group of people at the expensive of another group :lmao


Brit fighters are very annoying, pretty much all of them'

There i said it..

[The TroutBum]

Poop.

[desflood]

This guy has an interesting view on Rampage in this week's "Sunday Junkie":


UNGRATEFUL RAMPAGE A CLASSIC BULLY

It seems as though Quinton "Rampage" Jackson is confusing his role in "The A-Team" movie and the actor Mr. T by living by the credo, "I pity the poor fool who take what's mine." Under-appreciated and disrespected is how Rampage claims he has been treated by the UFC. He has made "oh so many sacrifices" for the UFC. Well, let me tell you, as a working man, I wish that a company would buy out an organization to get my contract, bail me out of jail for almost killing several people, and give me opportunity after opportunity for greater exposure thus assuring roles in major movies. (:lol) From what I have seen of Rampage on "The Ultimate Fighter 10" and after his fight with Keith Jardine, he is the classic bully. He wants to rant and rave, and make fun of you. But don't you dare talk back to him because that is a sign of great disrespect. Dana White and Rashad Evans should just play by Rampage's rules because by being "disrespected," Rampage did the only thing a bully could: he quit.

Dave Tiseo
Smithtown, N.Y.

[dbreiden83080]

This guy has an interesting view on Rampage in this week's "Sunday Junkie":


UNGRATEFUL RAMPAGE A CLASSIC BULLY

It seems as though Quinton "Rampage" Jackson is confusing his role in "The A-Team" movie and the actor Mr. T by living by the credo, "I pity the poor fool who take what's mine." Under-appreciated and disrespected is how Rampage claims he has been treated by the UFC. He has made "oh so many sacrifices" for the UFC. Well, let me tell you, as a working man, I wish that a company would buy out an organization to get my contract, bail me out of jail for almost killing several people, and give me opportunity after opportunity for greater exposure thus assuring roles in major movies. (:lol) From what I have seen of Rampage on "The Ultimate Fighter 10" and after his fight with Keith Jardine, he is the classic bully. He wants to rant and rave, and make fun of you. But don't you dare talk back to him because that is a sign of great disrespect. Dana White and Rashad Evans should just play by Rampage's rules because by being "disrespected," Rampage did the only thing a bully could: he quit.

Dave Tiseo
Smithtown, N.Y.

Page loves a war of words with someone he is fighting, he eats that stuff up all day long.. This is just about him and Dana, the whole deal is weird and annoying and it needs to work itself out..

[polandprzem]

Go back to the machida vs rashard fight


there is one tuf fighter in evans corner

[benefactor]

I hope this show gets better. These fighters are garbage so far. Hell...give me a month and a half and I would be able to beat either one of those guys who fought in the second fight.

[BlackSwordsMan]

from the previews it looking more and more like kimbo wins
It looks roy nelson is dropped with a right and then kimbo starts to gnp him

[dbreiden83080]

from the previews it looking more and more like kimbo wins
It looks roy nelson is dropped with a right and then kimbo starts to gnp him

Would be nice but i doubt it. He's likely gonna get KO'd or sub'd..

[BlackSwordsMan]

well if you remember the promo before the show you see a black guy pounding the shit out of someone on the ground on the right side, the fight preview for this wednesday shows roy on the right side and gets dropped by a right of kimbo just putting 1 and 1 together we'll see though

[stretch]

mma lol

[lebomb]

mma lol

Figures you dont like anything that requires athleticism, strength or skill. Faggot.......go play with your barbie dolls.

[BlackSwordsMan]

he's a raiders/mavs fan
give him a break

[lebomb]

he's a raiders/mavs fan
give him a break

To hell with that :rolleyes . I like the raiders too, after the Cowboys that is who I support. They would knock his dumbass out with his MMA comments. The Raiders definitely knock some heads. :ihit

[BlackSwordsMan]

sucks for you

[Blackjack]

Just saw Kimbo on Jimmy Fallon's abortion, I mean, "show."

He didn't look to anxious to talk about the upcoming fight when asked what happened, but maybe he's a more well-rounded actor than fighter?

[lebomb]

sucks for you


Why do you defend a dumbass that comes into a forum just to start up shit? If he doesnt care for MMA, stay the fuck out. Its simple. :rolleyes

[LEONARD]

It's funny how much they're pumping Kimbo...

I'm expecting "Countdown to Kimbo's Fight on TUF" tonight...


I hope this show gets better. These fighters are garbage so far. Hell...give me a month and a half and I would be able to beat either one of those guys who fought in the second fight.

Wrong

[BlackSwordsMan]

Why do you defend a dumbass that comes into a forum just to start up shit? If he doesnt care for MMA, stay the fuck out. Its simple. :rolleyes

cause my grandfather killed japs in ww2 to allow dumbasses like stretch do whatever he wants on a forum

[BlackSwordsMan]

btw I expect the ratings to be the highest ever on a TUF show tomorrow

[lebomb]

btw I expect the ratings to be the highest ever on a TUF show tomorrow

I know..........I cant wait. I heard that they were working very hard to keep the spoilers under wraps. Right now, no one knows who wins outside of that show. :ihit

[BlackSwordsMan]

I don't even care who wins I just want to see kimbo fight. I hate mma hw's

[LEONARD]

Rashad on Roy..."He's somebody that looks like he's out of shape...but, the boy is not out of shape"

:wow

That's from "leaked scenes" that the UFC is posting on FB. If they're leaked, wouldn't they come from somewhere outside of the UFC? :lol

Dana talks about the "TUF Superfight"
http://mma.fanhouse.com/2009/09/29/dana-white-delivers-for-nyc-fans-talks-tuf-superfight-and-res/




I know..........I cant wait. I heard that they were working very hard to keep the spoilers under wraps. Right now, no one knows who wins outside of that show. :ihit

There are multiple spoilers out...

[benefactor]

Wrong
I was being facetious...but I was serious about them sucking.

[oligarchy]

I know..........I cant wait. I heard that they were working very hard to keep the spoilers under wraps. Right now, no one knows who wins outside of that show. :ihit

Except LEONARD. He reads them "by mistake." He thought it was gay porn. :(

[Pablo Escobar]

I know..........I cant wait. I heard that they were working very hard to keep the spoilers under wraps. Right now, no one knows who wins outside of that show. :ihit

i heard kimbo on the dan lebatard show before the TUF started and said if they leaked any results it would cost them 5 million that it was in their contract :wow

[oligarchy]

5 million eh?

[LEONARD]

Except LEONARD. He reads them "by mistake."

Funny to me that you seem to think that's not possible... :lol

[Stringer_Bell]

Maybe this match goes to decision and it impresses Dana enough to finally have respect for Kimbo as an MMA fighter? Nelson is a hell of a chunk to chew on in Kimbo's first fight for credibility, so maybe they will spin it as a victory even if he loses.

[Blackjack]

He'll start to gain respect for Kimbo if the needle moves the way I expect it to.

Less than an hour away.:hungry:

[oligarchy]

Funny to me that you seem to think that's not possible... :lol

Oh. I believe you were looking for gay porn. I'm sure you were hoping it was starring Fedor.

[PuttPutt]

Big Country wins by TKO over Kimbo.

[tlongII]

Terrible fight. Still a great show though...

[polandprzem]

Kimbo did a good job. But from my point he is not learning fast. He got some hints tips but a learnng process is looooooooooooong when it comes to Kimbo. And still he is weak in many mma aspects.

[Stringer_Bell]

Good episode, decent fight but hardly the battle we hoped for.

Considering Kimbo is the only person to lose by means other than decision...I don't think it'd be fair to put him back in the ring if Marcus goes out like hinted in the previews for next week. But Dana wants the ratings, and people will at least tune in one more time to see Kimbo.

Also, wtffbbq Dana talking bullshit about Nelson? I'd like to see Dana fight a smart fight against Kimbo...a win is a win unless you kick the guy in the balls or poke his eye without the ref seeing it.

[LEONARD]

Roy said he'd put him in a crucifix and hit him until they stopped it, and that's exactly what he did. He was playing with Kimbo. He had full mount, barely went for a sub, barely threw a punch, gave up full mount (who does that unless you're hopping over to lock in an arm triangle or ???), and then put him in a crucifix. 2nd round same thing...all he cared to do was get him into a crucifix. He wanted to show how much better he was on the ground by predicting exactly how he'd end it. Somewhat impressive in that regard, but the punches were weak. The avg joe watching that fight isn't going to get it...or understand why it was stopped. Kimbo was stuck and doing nothing though...so it had to stop. Herb almost stopped it in the first...

[oligarchy]

Dana even called out Roy's punches. little girl punches.. lol. Someone get that man a cheeseburger.

[dbreiden83080]

Someone like Roy Nelson being a good MMA fighter is bad for the sport, i'm sorry it just is. People see this fat SOB with a gut so big he looks like all he does is drink beer and eat Whoppers all day and then see him fight well, and they think that MMA is easy. How could it be hard when someone that fat is any good at it?? Most people who don't know the sport will think that..


That said the fight was okay, Kimbo looked good when he let his hands go, he could have KO'd Roy but the dude just has no ground at all.

[Blackjack]

Even loss can’t stop Kimbo hype machine (http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dw-kimbo093009&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports


No one ever said Dana White and his Ultimate Fighting Championship didn’t know how to market itself, its sport and its fighters.

There may be no greater proof than the job they’ve done with Kimbo Slice, the famed YouTube street fighter who crashed and burned under the weight of ridiculous hype that his last promotion and CBS television put on him. One year ago this week, it took 14 seconds to prove he wasn’t really the comparable figure to Tiger Woods that they laughably claimed.

Kimbo lost again Wednesday on Spike TV’s “The Ultimate Fighter” reality show. In a match taped in June, he was smothered by Roy Nelson, a round mound of fighting experience who twice exploited Slice’s inexperience, laid him out in a crucifix position and dropped dozens of light but unanswered punches.

Referee Herb Dean, who allowed Kimbo to be saved by the bell at the end of the first round, called it early in the second.



Kimbo got beat, although not beat up. And within a minute of his loss, White, the UFC president, was on the program dropping unsubtle hints that Slice would soon enough return to active competition on the show. He’ll likely replace fellow competitor Marcus Jones, who in scenes from next week appears to come down ill.

The return of a promising fighter that had lost isn’t unusual. In past seasons of the show, fighters have left due to injury, behavioral trouble and simple homesickness.

What’s most amazing isn’t that Kimbo will return. It’s that the show – either through the magic of reality television or by brilliantly showing what was legitimately real – has turned Kimbo into a likeable, humble and easy-to-root-for guy.

Dana White had changed the expectations game.

Suddenly Kimbo was being hailed for putting up a decent fight against Nelson, a former International Fight League heavyweight champion with far more experience.

White and coaches Quinton “Rampage” Jackson and Rashad Evans all hailed his effort.

In truth, Kimbo landed just a couple significant punches, one knee and used solid takedown defense to stop Nelson another time. Other than that, it really wasn’t much of a performance. Nelson got him down twice and then just swallowed Kimbo up.

At no point did Nelson look to be in any trouble, although the few times Slice’s fists connected, it couldn’t have felt all that good.

“Can I get a Double Whopper with cheese?” Nelson shouted to White after the victory.

Yet for losing, Kimbo was the big winner.

And it all has to do with expectations. If he had lost this way a year ago at the final card for his old promotion, EliteXC, he would have been mercilessly ripped by fans. (That night, he lost even more decisively, a near-instant TKO at the hands of man who weighed 30 pounds less.) If anyone had made an excuse that his opponent was too good, they would have been heckled.

White would’ve been the first one doing the mocking.

Back then, though, Kimbo was being hailed as some mixed martial arts legend, when even he now admits he had virtually no skills. There is no comparison to winning backyard fights for a couple hundred bucks and taking on trained professionals inside a cage.

Now, close enough is good enough because the UFC is smartly selling Slice as a boots-straps up-and-comer, someone willing to admit he has a ton to learn, a family man (six kids) who just took the opportunity given to him.

It’s the same fighter, just better promoters.

White isn’t above hyperbole. He also knows that honesty sells. In this case, he isn’t selling an inaccurate image – he’s showing a real human. The guy who used to beat people up at barbeques now seems like a guy you wouldn’t mind having over to your house for one.

Slice has helped deliver record ratings for the 10th season of the show. White himself was predicting six million people would watch Wednesday’s fight – and with the promise of Kimbo returning next week, the ratings won’t drop far.

White has said Kimbo will stay with the company – whether he wins this season or not. Slice will fight in December, presumably at either the undercard of the TUF 10 finale on Dec. 5 or at UFC 107, a pay-per-view event in Memphis.

It stands to reason that many fans will be rooting for him, more now than ever.

He’s become a person on this show, not held up as some scouring force of terror. The beard and gold teeth are still there, but TUF has shown him training relentlessly, begging for additional coaching and getting along with fellow contestants who initially mocked and cursed his presence.

More than anything, special attention has been paid to showing (if you can believe it) Kimbo’s emotional vulnerability, particularly considering the built-up-and-torn-down-year he just went through.

“He’s just a good person,” said Jones, who played seven years for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. “The things put in front of him would probably crush the mental state of any other man.”

Slice was seen praying, talking about how he realized “the enemy is the inner me” and making a series of hysterical malapropisms (upon realizing he’s been losing weight, he noted, “I haven’t developed a good eating r&eactue;sumé.”)

The guy is Yogi Berra with knockout power.

Or does he really have knockout power? We’ll see. He didn’t show it against Nelson, and the pressure will be on to display more in his next fight, be it on TUF or in December. As with all contestants, Kimbo will stick around and train until filming is done, a time where he can improve dramatically.

He is currently working with American Top Team in South Florida, home to a number of top fighters. They have a reputation as a no-nonsense operation that gets fighters in top shape. It is home to MMA stars such as WEC champion Mike Brown and UFC welterweight contender Thiago Alves.

He’s supposedly serious about it – even if various movie roles keep pulling him away for a couple days here and there. It’s worth noting, though, that when Slice was in EliteXC, we heard he was training hard under legendary former UFC champion Bas Rutten, only to later find out it wasn’t nearly so intense.

Time will tell whether at 35 he can develop into a viable fighter. Better won’t work forever. Still, his performance thus far on TUF has given him a second, and perhaps third, opportunity with the UFC. It’s rebranded him from street thug into modern day Rocky.

It’s found a way to make a loss where he mounted minimal offense into a victory that’s reviving his career.

All hail the marketing power of the UFC. No one ever said Dana White wasn’t good at his job.

[Blackjack]

Is Kimbo spelled with a K-I, or is it a K-1? -- see what I did there?:hat --

Dude still has absolutely no ground game, and he looked hesitant to be too aggressive because of it. I'm not sure the result would have been much different had he had the confidence to go out there and try and to blast Roy, but I've got to believe that would've been his best shot to pull an upset; and yes, it would have been an upset.

You can tell he's lost a lot of his swagger after the EliteXC flop, and understandably so, but he better find it and really dedicate himself to takedown defense, a couple of sweeps, and one or two submissions that can help him from the bottom. He'll never be touted for his ground game with getting such a late start to the world off MMA and his lack of a wrestling background only adds to the uphill climb, but if he can master a move or two and regain some of that swagger with his standup.. He should be able to put on a pretty good show while making the UFC some cash in the process.

Damn good piece by Wetzel, by the way.:tu


Roy said he'd put him in a crucifix and hit him until they stopped it, and that's exactly what he did. He was playing with Kimbo. He had full mount, barely went for a sub, barely threw a punch, gave up full mount (who does that unless you're hopping over to lock in an arm triangle or ???), and then put him in a crucifix. 2nd round same thing...all he cared to do was get him into a crucifix. He wanted to show how much better he was on the ground by predicting exactly how he'd end it. Somewhat impressive in that regard, but the punches were weak. The avg joe watching that fight isn't going to get it...or understand why it was stopped. Kimbo was stuck and doing nothing though...so it had to stop. Herb almost stopped it in the first...

:tu

I couldn't help but laugh as his team started counting the
unanswered 'punches' to end the fight.

The dude looks like a sloppy fatass, but you've got to give him props on basically calling his shot.

[dbreiden83080]

Is Kimbo spelled with a K-I, or is it a K-1? -- see what I did there?:hat --

Dude still has absolutely no ground game, and he looked hesitant to be too aggressive because of it. I'm not sure the result would have been much different had he had the confidence to go out there and try and to blast Roy, but I've got to believe that would've been his best shot to pull an upset; and yes, it would have been an upset.

You can tell he's lost a lot of his swagger after the EliteXC flop, and understandably so, but he better find it and really dedicate himself to takedown defense, a couple of sweeps, and one or two submissions that can help him from the bottom. He'll never be touted for his ground game with getting such a late start to the world off MMA and his lack of a wrestling background only adds to the uphill climb, but if he can master a move or two and regain some of that swagger with his standup.. He should be able to put on a pretty good show while making the UFC some cash in the process.

Damn good piece by Wetzel, by the way.:tu

Good Stuff.. :toast

And at age 35 starting where he is, Kimbo obviously needs to work on his JJ but mainly that dude just needs wrestling. Takedown defense, takedown defense, takedown defense. That's his best shot at winning some fights in the UFC. He needs to bust his ass working with top level wrestlers on nothing but takedown defense and banging on his feet.. Without question based on what i saw in that fight, if it had stayed up, he'd have KO'd Roy. Roy got hit with a few shots in that 2nd RD and he was begging for that takedown.. When Kimbo lets his hands go he is dangerous, but he needs better wrestling, he's got to plug those holes..

[tsb2000]

That fight sucked balls. I can't believe I was looking forward to it.

[dbreiden83080]

That fight sucked balls. I can't believe I was looking forward to it.

Way more exciting than the last fight

[Blackjack]

Good Stuff.. :toast

And at age 35 starting where he is, Kimbo obviously needs to work on his JJ but mainly that dude just needs wrestling. Takedown defense, takedown defense, takedown defense. That's his best shot at winning some fights in the UFC. He needs to bust his ass working with top level wrestlers on nothing but takedown defense and banging on his feet.. Without question based on what i saw in that fight, if it had stayed up, he'd have KO'd Roy. Roy got hit with a few shots in that 2nd RD and he was begging for that takedown.. When Kimbo lets his hands go he is dangerous, but he needs better wrestling, he's got to plug those holes..

Agree.:tu

He actually looked like he got a little giddy when he landed those shots and it had him throw an ill-advised knee, while in retreat, that gave Roy the takedown.

It looks like he might get another shot on the show, so hopefully he learns a little from this and, more importantly, fights someone not known for their ground game.

I really just want to see Kimbo go up against another standup-type fighter to see how good his hands really are.

He looks the part of a KO-artist and his technique is pretty sound, but I've yet to see him exhibit that ability going up against trained professionals..

[lebomb]

When Kimbo lets his hands go he is dangerous, but he needs better wrestling, he's got to plug those holes..


He is way too tentative now............probably because of that KO he received a year ago. Still Kimbo beat Tank Abbot and that dude with the fucked up nasty ear by being super aggressive. I think Kimbo needs to go back to that, but have better defensive skills, so he will not absorb a punch out of nowhere. I also think Kimbo lost too much weight. At 260 he is a beast, at 230, he is strong but light in the ass. :ihit

[LEONARD]

I'm thinking that Roy is a little pissed off that...

1. He has to go thru TUF to get into the UFC while others at his level (or below) have not.

2. He wasn't the "big announcement"

3. He wasn't picked first.

Prediction: He'll win the show, but in doing so he won't be liked by Dana and he won't last long in the UFC. They'll put him up against a couple badasses and get him out of there. Also, I wouldn't be shocked if he won every fight like he did last night, just to prove a point about how much more skilled he is on the ground than the rest of the guys in the house...


Someone like Roy Nelson being a good MMA fighter is bad for the sport, i'm sorry it just is. People see this fat SOB with a gut so big he looks like all he does is drink beer and eat Whoppers all day and then see him fight well, and they think that MMA is easy. How could it be hard when someone that fat is any good at it?? Most people who don't know the sport will think that..

That said the fight was okay, Kimbo looked good when he let his hands go, he could have KO'd Roy but the dude just has no ground at all.

Who has Kimbo KO'd?? His KO power is a myth IMO. And his chin is very questionable...

Roy Nelson is on TUF because of his physique and no other reason.

Like I've said before...I'm not a Roy Nelson fan. He's always annoyed me with the belly rubbing bit...the goofy kicks after a win...and his comments last night were dumb. But, he's a good fighter. At best, middle of the pack in the UFC HW divsion...

[tsb2000]

IMO, Kimbo is too slow as a heavyweight. In MMA, big muscles need big oxygen, which mean guys that are huge like him tend to gas easily, especially on the ground. He needs to get to 205 to be effective for his (lack of) height....Personally, I had high hopes for Marcus Jones in this show. He has an excellent ground game; he fights with Rob Kahn out of Gracie Tampa. Either the show's producers are really fagging him out on the show, or he's a hugely overrated wuss. We'll find out next week, I guess. :spin

[lebomb]

IMO, Kimbo is too slow as a heavyweight. In MMA, big muscles need big oxygen, which mean guys that are huge like him tend to gas easily, especially on the ground.

Bobby Lashley, Brock Lesner and Shane Carwin much????

[Soul_Patch]

Such a disapointment. So far, the show in general has been a disapointment this season.

[LEONARD]

IMO, Kimbo is too slow as a heavyweight. In MMA, big muscles need big oxygen, which mean guys that are huge like him tend to gas easily, especially on the ground. He needs to get to 205 to be effective for his (lack of) height....Personally, I had high hopes for Marcus Jones in this show. He has an excellent ground game; he fights with Rob Kahn out of Gracie Tampa. Either the show's producers are really fagging him out on the show, or he's a hugely overrated wuss. We'll find out next week, I guess. :spin

He's talked about cutting to 205 lbs...would make sense...eliminate the 265+ lbs guys pinning him on his back at least...

I still don't understand how he's only 230 lbs. He's definitely not 6'2" but even if he's 6' 230 lbs doesn't make sense to me...

[angelbelow]

Yea the fight was boring as I suspected. Dana was right about Big Country's punches in the first round, they almost didn't look like they hurt.

[BlackSwordsMan]

i guess wes sims did post spoilers
I wonder what kind of reprimands he received

[LEONARD]

Yep...a little bitter about Kimbo's treatment...

“I could have stayed in mount and finished him there with elbows and punches, but my game plan was to get to the crucifix, and once I got to the crucifix, finish the fight there. First round was 44 punches to the face, and then (referee) Herb Dean doesn’t know how to ref, but we’ve seen that before. And then the next round was 22 punches. You could even see me yelling at Herb Dean, ‘Come on, ref.’ But the thing is, there’s a lot of people; there’s a lot of money. Kimbo’s the only one that I know that had an entourage there; he actually had his family there, his management, while the rest of us kind of had to suffer. The UFC made, we’ll say, different concessions for Kimbo. I think he had a media room. Kimbo’s definitely, I guess we’ll say, special. I don’t see the specialness fighting-wise, but more for TV-wise. He puts butts in the seats. So I think it was more that Herb Dean was afraid to lose his job, because there’s a lot of people with a lot of money that can have a lot of influence with his career.”

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/mma/post/2009/09/roy-nelson-tuf-episode-3/1?csp=34

[oligarchy]

He needs to learn the difference between top of the head and face.

[dbreiden83080]

Yep...a little bitter about Kimbo's treatment...

First round was 44 punches to the face, and then (referee) Herb Dean doesn’t know how to ref, but we’ve seen that before. And then the next round was 22 punches. You could even see me yelling at Herb Dean, ‘Come on, ref.

I would not in any way shape or form call what Roy was hitting Kimbo with, punches. Did you get a look at Kimbo after the fight, he wasn't hurt at all just tired, not a scratch on him. Dana described them perfectly, saying it was like "Your kid sister hitting you" Page said it best How do you get the moon off you" :lol

Roy basically sat his fat ass on Kimbo and lightly slapped him until Dean said enough, only because Kimbo couldn't move underneath that fat SOB..


I'm thinking that Roy is a little pissed off that...

2. He wasn't the "big announcement"

How are you a big announcement when nobody knows who the hell you are?? Does the average fan know who he is?? Nope.. Tons of fighters probably never heard of his wide load behind either..



3. He wasn't picked first.

Walking in off the streets looking like you just hit the sizzler all you can eat buffet will do that come selection time..



Prediction: He'll win the show, but in doing so he won't be liked by Dana and he won't last long in the UFC. They'll put him up against a couple badasses and get him out of there.

Good Riddance, like i said someone looking that out of shape has no business in the UFC. And i don't care about him fighting like he is in shape, he looks like total ass, you can't have someone with that kind of body front and center in any division. AVG person sees someone like that doing well and they think badly about MMA.



Who has Kimbo KO'd?? His KO power is a myth IMO. And his chin is very questionable...


I'm not saying he has huge power but when he connected with that right hand it shook Roy up. He was racing for the takedown after he got hit, even Rashad said, "Roy won't admit it but he got rocked for a second, you could tell"

[oligarchy]

Wow. db.. I didn't even have to type. :toast

[dbreiden83080]

Wow. db.. I didn't even have to type. :toast

:lol

[LEONARD]

I would not in any way shape or form call what Roy was hitting Kimbo with, punches. Did you get a look at Kimbo after the fight, he wasn't hurt at all just tired, not a scratch on him. Dana described them perfectly, saying it was like "Your kid sister hitting you" Page said it best How do you get the moon off you" :lol

Roy basically sat his fat ass on Kimbo and lightly slapped him until Dean said enough, only because Kimbo couldn't move underneath that fat SOB..

How are you a big announcement when nobody knows who the hell you are?? Does the average fan know who he is?? Nope.. Tons of fighters probably never heard of his wide load behind either..

Walking in off the streets looking like you just hit the sizzler all you can eat buffet will do that come selection time..

Good Riddance, like i said someone looking that out of shape has no business in the UFC. And i don't care about him fighting like he is in shape, he looks like total ass, you can't have someone with that kind of body front and center in any division. AVG person sees someone like that doing well and they think badly about MMA.

I'm not saying he has huge power but when he connected with that right hand it shook Roy up. He was racing for the takedown after he got hit, even Rashad said, "Roy won't admit it but he got rocked for a second, you could tell"

I expect more from MMA fans that know the sport...this is similar to what I've seen posted from the masses that tuned in and know nothing about MMA!!

So in your opinion, the fight shouldn't have been stopped because the punches weren't that hard?? Really??? Come on dude...you know the rules. Roy took it easy on Kimbo...called his shot and toyed with him on the ground. Yes, Kimbo landed a couple decent punches, but nothing that really hurt him too bad.

I'm not saying he should've been a big announcement...HE thought he should be. I was listing reasons why HE'S probably not happy about having to go thru TUF. He doesn't belong on the show. He's the #20 HW in the world...nobody else is even on the map...

Since when does weighing 265 lbs mean you can just lay on people and win fights in the UFC? If he was 265 without a gut people wouldn't say shit. Come on man...if you didn't see his grappling skills put to use you're just hating on the guy and minimizing his skillset. Give me a break. He was able to pin Kimbo because he has good technique and Kimbo sucks on the ground. Could he have done that to a 230 lbs Fedor? Or Couture? Or *insert good fighter*?? Nope...

Roy has to fight 3 times in less than a month if he wants to make the finale. Why would he go out and not win the fight while minimizing risk? He should've just gone for the takedown from the get go really.

I hope Roy rolls thru TUF with crucifixes for everybody...that shit would be funny. Wouldn't be smart for his career (not that I care), but it would be funny...

[BigMoneyTexas]

db hit the nail on the head this whole page. Roy Nelson is a fat piece of garbage with major delusions of granduer. Nobody knows him and nobody cares about him yet he thinks he's a heavyweight superstar. His only job is to train and fight yet he looks like any other redneck fatass in the trailer park. If he would put in some work and get in shape he probably wouldnt have to go thru TUF to get a UFC contract but if he's gonna act and look the way he does he's never going to be in the UFC.

[oligarchy]

His points were: He was hitting like a girl and it's laughable he called them punches to the face.

Roy is fat and hopefully he's gone soon.

/end of story.

[dbreiden83080]

db hit the nail on the head this whole page. Roy Nelson is a fat piece of garbage with major delusions of granduer. Nobody knows him and nobody cares about him yet he thinks he's a heavyweight superstar. His only job is to train and fight yet he looks like any other redneck fatass in the trailer park. If he would put in some work and get in shape he probably wouldnt have to go thru TUF to get a UFC contract but if he's gonna act and look the way he does he's never going to be in the UFC.

I'm not saying he isn't skilled or that he didn't deserve to win the fight, like Leonard seems to think i am. He is skilled and he did deserve to win, but his look is astrocious. If he was a top 5 guy, capable of smashing most of the UFC heavy elite, then great have a good run in the UFC and make some money, but that's not the case. He'll be a gate-keeper at best in the UFC. Put him with Brock or Cain or Carwin or Gonzaga, Nog, Mir and he'll get raped.. I just think anyone that fat, doing well in the sport is a bad representation of the sport. Everyone bashed Sylvia to no end for getting insanely out of shape and losing to Mercer.. Most people don't look at how skilled a guy is on the ground if he weighs 600 pds with a gut so big it looks like he is carrying triplets.. The point is the UFC needs to bring in the casual fan, Roy's not doing that.. I'm sorry but that's just my take on Big Country..

[Stringer_Bell]

He's talked about cutting to 205 lbs...would make sense...eliminate the 265+ lbs guys pinning him on his back at least...

That would be a smart move, I just can't see him being able to compete against the top heavyweights. I think he's got a better chance at lightweight, power punching his way through the competition...cuz he's got a lot to learn after starting so late. I also agree that Kimbo wants to learn and is humble, which has been pretty well-known to fans following him, but for some reason they painted him as a thug until last night's episode.

Give Roy Nelson a break, he's fat but he knows how to use it. It's like accusing a playboy model of cheating cuz she's got nice fake boobs and gets the best publicity. Every person does what he or she needs to do to win, and if the "average MMA fan" is too blind to understand the game...let them lose sleep while the winners keep winning. :king

[LEONARD]

per MMAWeekly...Spike TV VP Brian Diamond says Kimbo vs Roy Nelson fight pulled 6.1 million viewers. One of the Top 5 most watched fights in US MMA history.

[desflood]

I was just glancing at Yahoo's top searches.

3. A-Team
4. Roy Nelson

[LEONARD]

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/2060/failsr.jpg

[tsb2000]

Bobby Lashley, Brock Lesner and Shane Carwin much????

Brock is a freak of nature, but I seriously doubt he could go five rounds with his size. Good thing for him he doesn't have to. Even after the Couture fight he was sucking wind pretty hard, not to mention his fight against Herring, who is a Texas-sized tomato can. Carwin is in the same boat- when has he ever gone the distance? I've got a feeling Lashley won't be that good once he sees some competition.

[dallaskd]

Kimbo will be back on the show.

[dbreiden83080]

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/2060/failsr.jpg

The King wants it his way...



http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/27/9836-burger-king_super.jpg

[dallaskd]

Damn rampage is a worse coach than shamrock was.

[desflood]

Dallas, that's almost exactly word-for-word what I came on to say. Damn mind-readers creep me out.

[Stringer_Bell]

I like how Kimbo is now towel boy, always there to console his teammates.

Rampage is funny, but funny ain't worth shit when it comes to coaching. He's right though, it's dumb to assume the contestants have proper to superior instincts when fighting. Next fight goes to Rampage tho, no way does Rashad sweep.

[dbreiden83080]

Dallas, that's almost exactly word-for-word what I came on to say. Damn mind-readers creep me out.

He's a sore loser and immature, this whole thing is not up his alley but was serving well to hype the Rashad fight, now that shit's over for now..

[760Spursfan]

He's a sore loser and immature, this whole thing is not up his alley but was serving well to hype the Rashad fight, now that shit's over for now..

The guy hates to lose but he is partly to blame as a "bad coach". Just listening to him talk he sounds like an idiot. Its a good thing Rampage can fight :ihit or else he'd be in serious trouble.

[lebomb]

who won the match up last night? I missed it.

[760Spursfan]

who won the match up last night? I missed it.


Brendan Schaub beat out demico Rodger by anaconda choke

[lebomb]

Wow.......................and Demico was bigger. Hell, all of Rampages people are bigger, they just arent as good.

[BlackSwordsMan]

or rampage is a really shitty coach

[Technique]

I like how Rashad Evans was there for Demico, I was rooting for Rampage, but after what happened last night it's hard not to love what Evans is doing.

[dbreiden83080]

Damn rampage is a worse coach than shamrock was.

He's bad but nobody will ever be worse than Shamrock. Lets not forget he showed up to coach, with a meat-head weight lifting coach, and no JJ or MMA guys to help out. Then he basically blew off training sessions with his guys more than once..

At least Page has a good crew to help out, but yes his coaching skills suck..

[IX_Equilibrium]

I love how Dana talked so much shit about Kimbo before TUF, and then proceeded to slobber over Kimbo's dick even though he lost to Roy Nelson. Of course he now realizes the marketing potential that Kimbo has (why Kimbo ever had so much marketing potential is beyond me), and he wants to focus on Kimbo as much as possible, no matter how poorly he fights.

Also, I am really tiring of Rampage. He his a horrible coach who doesn't take the task seriously. TUF has him in there to make cheesy one liners and they are milking that every chance they get. I hope if his "acting" venture fails miserably, the UFC will tell him to fuck off when he comes crawling back, but that probably wouldn't happen.

[Stringer_Bell]

I like how Rashad Evans was there for Demico, I was rooting for Rampage, but after what happened last night it's hard not to love what Evans is doing.

I've been impressed with how Evans has been giving thoughtful insights into his fighters and really trying to figure them out to help them not just in the competition but also if they continue fighting. He's more hands-on than Rampage, who just seems to let his coaching crew do most of the work.

[dallaskd]

lol @ team rampage. Im really glad Sims got his ass kicked. I like the Fort Worth kid. Hopefully Kimbo can get back in this thing. I want him to fight pussy boy from team Rashad. :ihit

[desflood]

He's bad but nobody will ever be worse than Shamrock.
I don't know. Ken, occasionally at least, pretended to care about his team. Also, he did manage to occasionally pull out a victory. So far this season Rampage has accomplished neither.

Maybe I'm biased. I've lost a lot of respect for Quinton as a person over the past year or so. He had that complete breakdown after his loss to Forrest which actually threatened other peoples' lives; he badmouthed Forrest after Griffin's loss to Silva; now the fact that he obviously doesn't give a damn about anybody on his team but himself. It's a pattern of immature, selfish, sometimes dangerous behavior that shouldn't sit well with any self-respecting adult.

[polandprzem]

I don't know why rashad goes and talks with ramapage about his coaching and respecting fighters?
Quinton is right - i do my job you do your job

Why rashad cares? He should sit quiet there and coach his team.

[dbreiden83080]

I don't know. Ken, occasionally at least, pretended to care about his team. Also, he did manage to occasionally pull out a victory. So far this season Rampage has accomplished neither.

Maybe I'm biased. I've lost a lot of respect for Quinton as a person over the past year or so. He had that complete breakdown after his loss to Forrest which actually threatened other peoples' lives; he badmouthed Forrest after Griffin's loss to Silva; now the fact that he obviously doesn't give a damn about anybody on his team but himself. It's a pattern of immature, selfish, sometimes dangerous behavior that shouldn't sit well with any self-respecting adult.


Yeah i still like him but he's had issues no doubt about that. The guy is a fighter not a coach, and with his team just getting hammered, he packed it in early. But he'll be back fighting soon, i have no doubt of that.

[BlackSwordsMan]

people still watch tuf even though kimbo isn't fighting?

[BlackSwordsMan]

lol@ wes sims calling team hammerhouse elite

[desflood]

Mike Wessel reveals just how much preferential treatment Kimbo actually got on TUF:


His talent may be in question, but his marketability isn’t. And when the UFC negotiated an offer for Kimbo Slice to demote himself to “Ultimate Fighter” status, it shouldn’t surprise anyone that there were a number of waivers in the contract.

In addition to Dana White admitting Slice’s UFC deal would be “different” financially than any other contestant’s, cast member Mike Wessel disclosed to Heavy.com that Slice’s entourage was in attendance for the Roy Nelson fight.

“There was like three big black guys, and what I was told was his wife,” Wessel said of the taping. “They were like, ‘Yeah, that's his wife and one of his sons, along with his posse. That's Icy Mike, his promoter and manager.’…I was furious! Not at Kimbo, but at the Spike team for letting that happen…Everyone has their own things going on, but because it's Kimbo, everyone wants to kiss his ass.” To nail the point home, Wessel explained that, like all cast members, he was not allowed to interact with family -- even though his wife was scheduled for cancer surgery.





Which raises this question in my mind: What the hell are you doing on reality tv when your wife is having surgery for cancer?

[polandprzem]

Which raises this question in my mind: What the hell are you doing on reality tv when your wife is having surgery for cancer?

Money for the surgery?

[dbreiden83080]

“titties, “titties, “titties can't lose to a guy with “titties... :lol

At least Page is still funny since he can't coach.. I thought Zach fought hard, he was in that triangle forever and never tapped. Got choked out but didn't quit

I can't believe that Page's team is 0-6. I don't think that has ever happened before.. I think Hughes lost 5 straight against Serra before his team got a win. You would think just with the unpredictability of MMA, that these guys are all pretty even on the show, especially from the middle down, and sheer luck that Page would have won at least one fight by now..

Everytime i see Page and Rashad getting at eachother i get pissed off their fight is off.. Get back to fighting Page.. This Hollywood bullshit is idiotic..

[Stringer_Bell]

Best episode so far. It was kind of sad that they pitted the two outcasts against each other, I wanted both to have at least something to cheer about but there can only be one winner. Both took good punches and both fought hard.

I'm not real sure why Zac got picked on, sometimes guys ask for it but he didn't seem to invite the kind of shit he was getting. SHARKS!

I like how Rashad always sticks up for his fighters and gives awesome advice/motivation. "He wants to quit. Help him quit." That's something I'll keep in my head next time I got some sort of competition. Really, really wish Rampage would just fight...making movies seems so far removed from his attitude toward fighting. He's a fighter, he needs to fight Rashad and get worked.

[cornbread]

LOL @ Schoonover representing Texas with his whiskey and dip.

[Stringer_Bell]

LOL @ Schoonover representing Texas with his whiskey and dip.

Yea, that was schweeet. Especially after they talked about how bad his cardio looked. REPRESENT!

[Blackjack]

Props to Zach.:tu

I'm not sure if it was the way they edited the show but it was almost like we actually saw the lightbulb turn on for him; the guy showed a lot of heart and earned a lot of respect with the way he conducted himself during that fight.

Fuckin, Schoonover...

Nothing like getting tanked before practice and having a dip after a workout.:lol

I'm still a 'Page fan but I'm finding myself cringe at times watching the show; it's one thing to be a shitty coach but it'd be nice if it actually looked like he gave a shit. I was pretty indifferent towards Rashad prior to the show, but he's really been winning me over; he just comes off as a pretty genuine good, hard-working dude.

[Sausage]

You know, if Rampage put as much effort into training and giving advice to his fighters rather than playing pranks and always joking around, maybe his team wouldn't be 0-6 in fights so far. Rashad's team is all about business and no BS. That's why that team hasn't lost a fight yet.

[760Spursfan]

True, he is just there to get exposure and collect a check. All he wants to do is talk shit and play jokes on people. I would have loved to see Evans whoop his ass.

Page coaching in your corner:

"under hooks, under hooks...breathe...breathe...I can't believe I lost again...I hate losing...WTF"

[oligarchy]

You can't really blame page.. You think he really had a choice in the matter of coaching the season? Also, he's said he's not a coach. He likes to joke and fuck around. I don't mind it, I don't get why people care so much about how good of a coach Rampage should be on the show.

Most of this is scripted shit, you can tell, so try not to work yourselves up so much.

[Evan]

Page coaching in your corner:

"under hooks, under hooks...breathe...breathe...I can't believe I lost again...I hate losing...WTF"

lol....true

[Soul_Patch]

I think it's funny how much Darril got under Page's skin when he bucked up to him...

He tried to act tough, but you can tell he didnt expect that soft ass dude to wanna throw with him.

Would have been funny to see, those two spar.

[dbreiden83080]

I think it's funny how much Darril got under Page's skin when he bucked up to him...

He tried to act tough, but you can tell he didnt expect that soft ass dude to wanna throw with him.

Would have been funny to see, those two spar.

Page would have KO'd him in about 5 seconds..

[Soul_Patch]

I'm sure, but i like the guys tenacity. I think page expected him to just act like a punk and not stand up for himself...

[anakha]

Props to Zach.:tu

I'm not sure if it was the way they edited the show but it was almost like we actually saw the lightbulb turn on for him; the guy showed a lot of heart and earned a lot of respect with the way he conducted himself during that fight.


Seems like even that was a fake, according to Abe (guy who lost in the first ep)'s blog:



In the training montage they show before the fight, when they are showing Jensen finally becoming “hardcore” and a “soldier”, if you watch, you see the coaches laughing as they cheer Zak on. This is because they told everybody to let him do well so that he could get some confidence. At one point you see Demico sprawl on a take down and literally flip over to his butt on purpose to give Zak the takedown. If you rewatch, you’ll see the coaches dying of laughter the whole time.


http://news.fightmagazine.com/abe-wagners-ultimate-fighter-blog-jensen-has-worse-man-boobs-than-titties-1912/

And Rashad's and Rampage's coaching can be summed up in two sentences:

Rashad's team - brings in Phil Nurse.
Rampage's team - brings in a cartoonist.

:bang

[dbreiden83080]

I'm sure, but i like the guys tenacity. I think page expected him to just act like a punk and not stand up for himself...

Page acts like a bully a lot, i think he is just messing around now because he has lost so many damn fights in a row. He really might go 0-8 here, it's that bad. The only reward at the end of the rainbow was going to be him and Rashad fighting, not that's off for now..

[desflood]

The only reward at the end of the rainbow was going to be him and Rashad fighting, not that's off for now..
This is something I dislike about the way they run TUF. I think they should pick coaches based on how well they might actually coach, rather than who has an upcoming fight. When they bring in guys like Rampage or Shamrock, who have upcoming fights but are crappy coaches the guys on the show really get screwed. The first season was great because Randy and Chuck could coach decently. Jens and BJ both did well, as did Tito and Rich Franklin. Forrest did exceptionally well, but that might just have been because Rampage was his opposition :lol I wouldn't mind seeing Matt Hughes coach again, even if he is an egotistical asshat.

[dbreiden83080]

This is something I dislike about the way they run TUF. I think they should pick coaches based on how well they might actually coach, rather than who has an upcoming fight. When they bring in guys like Rampage or Shamrock, who have upcoming fights but are crappy coaches the guys on the show really get screwed. The first season was great because Randy and Chuck could coach decently. Jens and BJ both did well, as did Tito and Rich Franklin. Forrest did exceptionally well, but that might just have been because Rampage was his opposition :lol I wouldn't mind seeing Matt Hughes coach again, even if he is an egotistical asshat.

i agree with what you are saying Des but you know how it is with TUF. The show has taken on a life of it's own and it's now serving as like a 10 episode marketing tool for the big grudge match fight between the coaches. In spite of how lousy Page has done as a coach, i still like this season, it's just sucks ass that Page is off shooting this movie and because Dana and him are whining at eachother he is not fighting Rashad anytime soon.. They keep selling a grudge match for a fight that's off.. It sucks!!!!

[desflood]

They keep selling a grudge match for a fight that's off.. It sucks!!!!
Yes, but what else can they do? The show was done long before Jackson quit. He screwed more people than just himself (and he did screw himself. He's going to lose a lot of money this way).

[dbreiden83080]

Yes, but what else can they do? The show was done long before Jackson quit. He screwed more people than just himself (and he did screw himself. He's going to lose a lot of money this way).

I know but the rumors are running that he and Dana are starting to talk it out, i expect this fight to be back on in a few months..

[dbreiden83080]

Speaking of which...

http://mma.fanhouse.com/2009/10/22/rashad-evans-told-rampage-jackson-ill-make-you-quit/

[dallaskd]

Great Episode.. where to start..

Zac should reconsider if fighting is right for him. Looked flat out terrible, im not sure why everyone is so hard on him though, maybe because hes so reserved to begin with. He looked really nervous before the fight. Titties is a punk. I give him no credit for standing up to Rampage. He backed up and couldnt even look him in the face. He looked down every two seconds. And Rampage straight up called him out in front of everyone and he wouldnt step foward. I mean, the whole episode he says "lets spar" "i really wanted to hit him in the face", yet when page calls him out and tells him to step up, he backs down like a little bitch. You know if Page had called Kimbo out, Kimbo would have walked right into rampage's face. Titties is a pussy. He looked decent in the cage though, but Zac is a chode too so i wanna see him fight someone with a little more skill.

[dallaskd]

I think it's funny how much Darril got under Page's skin when he bucked up to him...

He tried to act tough, but you can tell he didnt expect that soft ass dude to wanna throw with him.

Would have been funny to see, those two spar.

What the hell are you talking about? You really think Titties wanted to throw with Rampage... he couldnt even look rampage in the face when he said he wanted to spar.

[Stringer_Bell]

Zac should reconsider if fighting is right for him. Looked flat out terrible, im not sure why everyone is so hard on him though, maybe because hes so reserved to begin with.

It occurred to me that any time you're in a closed environment, and your personality isn't pronounced and you always seem to be last to try everything or seem tentative with the training everyone else is doing...you open yourself up to teasing/bullying to break you because no one has ANY idea what the fuck you're doing there. It doesn't help when he lacks aggression or skill during training sessions, so I think that's probably how he got singled out.

@ Abe's blog, I noticed the assistant to Rampage smiling when it looked like Zach was "doing good" but I didn't know it was conspiracy to go easy on him to get him confidence. That's a dick move for Abe to write that, since he didn't put up half the fight that Zach did. He just got his head busted and bled all over the damn place. Pussy. :ihit

[dallaskd]

It occurred to me that any time you're in a closed environment, and your personality isn't pronounced and you always seem to be last to try everything or seem tentative with the training everyone else is doing...you open yourself up to teasing/bullying to break you because no one has ANY idea what the fuck you're doing there. It doesn't help when he lacks aggression or skill during training sessions, so I think that's probably how he got singled out.

@ Abe's blog, I noticed the assistant to Rampage smiling when it looked like Zach was "doing good" but I didn't know it was conspiracy to go easy on him to get him confidence. That's a dick move for Abe to write that, since he didn't put up half the fight that Zach did. He just got his head busted and bled all over the damn place. Pussy. :ihit

Good post. I just dont see how a guy who said he wants to be a UFC champion some day has such a lack of confidence. i mean shit.. i have way more self confidence than Zac. I would never let people fuck with me like that.

[dallaskd]

I love Rashads lame ass lines..

"Today is your bithday, your going to be born again into a UFC fighter" or something :lol

[Stringer_Bell]

Rashad is a bitch, he's just trying to sike himself up with that trash talk, but when they fight, and they will, he's going to sleep.

Rashad isn't psyching himself up, he's expressing his beliefs that Rampage doesn't care about the TUF process. Rashad always reps his team's colors and gear, but Rampage walks around casually and acts like the pro in the room that can't offer anything but lame "advice" to his guys. Rampage said his fighters quit, that's not very nice even if it's true. :nope

Rashad could mimick Rampage's style and beat him at his own game. It's a good thing Rampage is making movies, cuz I don't think he could emotionally handle being embarrassed in the cage.

[dbreiden83080]

Rashad could mimick Rampage's style and beat him at his own game. It's a good thing Rampage is making movies, cuz I don't think he could emotionally handle being embarrassed in the cage.

I agree about Page's emotional state being all over the place but, IMO Rashad is a completely mediocre fighter. He's had a few big fights in his career.

Tito Ortiz- Got a draw, in a fight he was outwreslted and out-struck (Tito's striking is mediocre) he got a draw mainly because Tito lost a pt for grabbing the fence in round 2.

Mike Bisping- SD win, unimpressive on the feet and on the ground, very boring fight all the way around.. We saw what an elite striker/wrestler did with Bisping at UFC 100..

Chuck Liddell- first real sign that Chuck was old and out of his prime, he lost RD 1 easily and then threw a hail mary haymaker that landed right on the button..

Forrest Griffin- Typical Rashad fashion, slow starter, loses the first 2 rounds easily and then caught Forrest and finished, again i was not impressed by him at all here..

Machida- Got nothing done on the feet whatsoever, Machida got his timing and then blasted his butt visciouly knocking him out..

I never saw him beating Page at any game at all. I always thought it was an easy KO for Page. Rashad starts slow like always and gets blasted on the feet..

[dbreiden83080]

http://www.ifight365.com/wp-content/images/ateam.jpg

[Stringer_Bell]

I never saw him beating Page at any game at all. I always thought it was an easy KO for Page. Rashad starts slow like always and gets blasted on the feet..

Too bad there's no timetable on when the two will fight so we can settle this. Your points are fair enough, but going into any of those example fights you could say "not impressive, he won't win" yet he found a way to win. Maybe it's a gameplan? Maybe it's luck? But the man is a winner, or was a winner until Machida dropped him. Rampage is a whiner.

[dbreiden83080]

But the man is a winner, or was a winner until Machida dropped him. Rampage is a whiner.

:lol

Good Stuff, did you make picks for tonight??

[Stringer_Bell]

:lol

Good Stuff, did you make picks for tonight??

Exactly one month ago from today :toast But I'm updating since for some reason I didn't pick anyone in the Joe Daddy fight. Gotta love TUF guys fighting for survival after hitting a rough patch.

[BlackSwordsMan]

why was this fight hyped so much by spike? it was pathetic to see two men with a combined 11 fights in pro mma to be gassed by the 3rd minute in the first round.

[dbreiden83080]

Yeah, but why is he worried about Team Rampage? Talking shit to page will only result in a royal ass whooping. Rashad is average at best.

For sure, Rashad is gonna get smoked when this fight happens and it will happen once Page gets back from this little Hollywood vacation. Rashad is either one delusional dude, or playing to the cameras, because he acts like he's 100-0 with 100 KO's.. I like when he said to Page, "You been KO'd more than me" LOL he's fought twice as many fights against better fighters. These guys are basically the same age, Page was banging with the big boys in Japan when Rashad was probably working night security at Home Depot for a living..


why was this fight hyped so much by spike? it was pathetic to see two men with a combined 11 fights in pro mma to be gassed by the 3rd minute in the first round.

Gotta agree i mean it had it's moments but at the end of the day it was 2 guys, who aren't anything special fighting a sloppy tired fight for 10 min..

[Stringer_Bell]

why was this fight hyped so much by spike? it was pathetic to see two men with a combined 11 fights in pro mma to be gassed by the 3rd minute in the first round.

I was thinking the same thing, but then I remembered that the matches are only 2 rounds. Could they use work on conditioning? Hell yes. But I don't hold it against them for throwing everything out there in the first round. I'd try to kill the other guy in the first round, and if I can't I'll just hold on for life in the second round hoping I did enough damage in the first.

They each took a few good punches to the head and stayed in the game. Matt won, Scott...well, in the totally opposite words of Denny Green..."[Scott Junk] is not who we thought we was."

Will Marcus end the sweep? I say yes.

PS: Rashad being a former competitor, and winner, of TUF means he has a much greater respect for the TUF process than Rampage and he doesn't like how he's disrespecting the process by not coaching and being there for his fighters. Rashad is setting the example, and he will make Rampage an example if they ever get in the ring together.

[dbreiden83080]

Will Marcus end the sweep? I say yes.

Marcus is a power-house with a huge size edge in this fight, i'll be shocked if he loses it..



PS: Rashad being a former competitor, and winner, of TUF means he has a much greater respect for the TUF process than Rampage and he doesn't like how he's disrespecting the process by not coaching and being there for his fighters. Rashad is setting the example, and he will make Rampage an example if they ever get in the ring together.

He has respect for the process of TUF, but he is also playing it up for the cameras. The shit talk and ego form him considering Machida beat the stuffing out of him like 2 weeks before they started taping the show is running real thin with me. I don't think he has anything for Page at all, he'll be KO'd it won't go 3 rds..

[dbreiden83080]

http://i25.tinypic.com/1f9r11.gif

[760Spursfan]

That is all I am seeing this season is fighters getting tired quick...I hate Brock as much as the next guy but I don't see any of these guys lasting 1min. with him.



http://i25.tinypic.com/1f9r11.gif

I wonder if this door is made out of the same material as the one Brock broke off its hinges or the one MJ breaks through in the "Thriller" video :lmao

[polandprzem]

The best part was when page kicked this door and saw it is a weak opponent, the he let one punch go in and went for the kill! there was no ref so he decided to headbutt the door and rip it spreading all over the place.

[dbreiden83080]

That is all I am seeing this season is fighters getting tired quick...I hate Brock as much as the next guy but I don't see any of these guys lasting 1min. with him.


Most of these guys won't even fight at heavyweight, they'll all drop to 205 for survival, because they know the Brocks and Shane Carwins of MMA are too damn big.. There's not that many guys here that have to fight at heavyweight..

[tsb2000]

Most of these guys won't even fight at heavyweight, they'll all drop to 205 for survival, because they know the Brocks and Shane Carwins of MMA are too damn big.. There's not that many guys here that have to fight at heavyweight..

Exactly correct. Even Rashad started as a heavyweight. A fighter has to be legitimately that big (like Marcus Jones) to compete at HW. Walking around at 280-300 and cutting to 265 for the fight. Look at the 205 guys...they walk around at 230-ish, sometimes more. Imagine any of those fat fucks on TUF trying to bang with Lesnar? No way at all. Even though Kimbo is in shape, he will never survive at HW. He's just too small. He's got to get to 205, even 185 for his height, IMO. He's way too thick to be effective at MMA.

[cornbread]

why was this fight hyped so much by spike? it was pathetic to see two men with a combined 11 fights in pro mma to be gassed by the 3rd minute in the first round.

If there was ever a fight that took the "arts" out of "mixed martial arts" this was the fight. Those guys fight like they came straight out of some 1998 NHB.

Ugly.

[dbreiden83080]

Exactly correct. Even Rashad started as a heavyweight.

Indeed he did and if you look at him he's a small LHW. He is about 5'11 maybe closer to 5'10. Everytime you see him next to Page a big LHW you see the difference, as he is 6'1 and easily 225-230 walking around. The heavyweight division is still relatively weak because it is just easier for these guys to cut, to 205 then bang with these monster natural heavies..

[BlackSwordsMan]

I was thinking the same thing, but then I remembered that the matches are only 2 rounds. Could they use work on conditioning? Hell yes. But I don't hold it against them for throwing everything out there in the first round. I'd try to kill the other guy in the first round, and if I can't I'll just hold on for life in the second round hoping I did enough damage in the first.

They each took a few good punches to the head and stayed in the game. Matt won, Scott...well, in the totally opposite words of Denny Green..."[Scott Junk] is not who we thought we was."

Will Marcus end the sweep? I say yes.

PS: Rashad being a former competitor, and winner, of TUF means he has a much greater respect for the TUF process than Rampage and he doesn't like how he's disrespecting the process by not coaching and being there for his fighters. Rashad is setting the example, and he will make Rampage an example if they ever get in the ring together.
Well the fighter for Rashad's team was 2-0 and the guy from rampage's team was 6-2-1, they should already be in fighters shape.

[dallaskd]

Im picking Marcus to win this one unless he gasses out. To bad we wont see Kimbo back on the show..

[MannyIsGod]

Im picking Marcus to win this one unless he gasses out. To bad we wont see Kimbo back on the show..

Or will we?

I don't think we will, but they keep pimping him to keep people tuning in I guess.

[dallaskd]

my predictions for the quarterfinals:

Marcus
Roy
Brendan
Matt (but if he cant fight id pick Kimbo over McSweeney)

Wren-Nelson is gonna be a good fight. I love all these match-ups.

[dallaskd]

Or will we?

I don't think we will, but they keep pimping him to keep people tuning in I guess.

bro idk Matt looks like he has a BAD concussion.

[Stringer_Bell]

Tonight was the first episode I ever said "Just walk away Rashad." He went at Rampage too much and I think he went about asking for training help the wrong way. And, I still hate not being able to see that match soon enough.

Marcus is MUCH better than I thought he was, and I don't think it's just because of his size. I kept thinking 50% of his game was intimidation factor, but he can move fo' sho. I think Marcus/Darrell is gonna be good, hell I think all of them will be good fights coming up. We're more adjusted to the fighters and their personalities, so the investment going into these fights will make it more exciting than the opening rounds. :toast

[Blackjack]

I'm getting the feeling they'll be teasing a Kimbo appearance on next year's TUF because of a possible injury; there's no possible way they're leading the audience on to keep the ratings up..:hat

How can you not like Marcus? That Green Mile shit from Kimbo was priceless and the eagerness he has for the game makes him look like a little kid. That was some pretty decent groundwork he displayed for a guy of his size and if he keeps on improving in that area, it'd probably help with some of usual stamina problems that come with a guy that big.

'Page was annoying me a little bit for a while there, but I think I'm over it now. That sucka' comment to Rashad made me lol.

Oh, and my crazy, astute, observation of the night: Dana's not a fan of Roy..:hat

[760Spursfan]

Good match tonight for Marcus. He is very humble, eager to learn and very respectful to others. His stand up is not that great and I think that can be his downfall but on the ground he looked comfortable and suprisingly quick. I hope he does make it to the finals and wins the show.

[The TroutBum]

Anyone with a decent punch will knock his ass out in a hurry. Marcus stands up way too straight w/ his chin just hanging out there. I love the guy, but he's gonna get ktfo next round.

Also, I'm betting on the chubby bearded kid fighting Nelson -- I think he's gonna win it all.

[dbreiden83080]

Anyone with a decent punch will knock his ass out in a hurry. Marcus stands up way too straight w/ his chin just hanging out there. I love the guy, but he's gonna get ktfo next round.

Also, I'm betting on the chubby bearded kid fighting Nelson -- I think he's gonna win it all.

You can't tell much of anything from one fight that lasted like 20 seconds, and his JJ looked pretty good on top of being a monster of a man..

[The TroutBum]

You can't tell much of anything from one fight that lasted like 20 seconds, and his JJ looked pretty good on top of being a monster of a man..

I agree, but I'm just telling you, that in the 20 seconds I watched, it looked like shit. If I was a bettin' man, I'd put money on him getting knocked out next fight. His BJJ looked pretty good though, which surprised me.

[dallaskd]

I agree, but I'm just telling you, that in the 20 seconds I watched, it looked like shit. If I was a bettin' man, I'd put money on him getting knocked out next fight. His BJJ looked pretty good though, which surprised me.

by titties?

[dbreiden83080]

Roy wins bad decision, that was a 3 rounder for sure..

Really sick of Dana shit-talking Roy..

[dallaskd]

Should have gone to the third round, but it was pretty obvious Roy would have won it anyways. I wanna say Kimbo is gonna come back.. if it was any other fighter injured we would know, but with meat head who knows..

[BlackSwordsMan]

I think it's a conspiracy that the mma judges are so shitty, nelson did not win round 1

[dbreiden83080]

I think it's a conspiracy that the mma judges are so shitty, nelson did not win round 1

RD 1 was not even close..

[oligarchy]

Should have gone to the third round, but it was pretty obvious Roy would have won it anyways. I wanna say Kimbo is gonna come back.. if it was any other fighter injured we would know, but with meat head who knows..

That's just the show trying to keep people tuning in, letting them believe he is going to be back.

[dallaskd]

Wren is gonna be a decent fighter. I thought Nelson had a good jab and is pretty quick on his feet for a big boy. Nelson knows how to pace himself. I think he submits Justin in the 3rd.

[tsb2000]

RD 1 was not even close..

I agree. I thought Roy was pretty well owned in the first round- and two judges gave it to him?

[Stringer_Bell]

Definitely a 3 rounder, but Nelson would have won that round. He's good at pacing, and he's smart. Dana is stupid to talk shit when the goal is to win the contract, gotta strategize.

[Stringer_Bell]

Wow, no love for TUF this week? Ya'll are making me double post >.>

Brenden should not have been allowed to hold the fence all those times. In the real octagon, that's deduction of points. Jensen had to work that much harder with that cage hugger ignoring every warning like it was an option. When I first saw Brenden fight outside TUF, he did that "throat slit" thing and I thought that was poor form. Now he does it with Jensen in a match where he constantly throw ring rules out the window. I hope someone beats his ass good, make the "throat slit" sign, and keeps him from getting that contract.

Shocking Kimbo twist next week: TUF has been cockteasing everyone to milk rating, only to learn Kimbo has a bummed knee and won't fight until...TUF 10 Finale. OH YEAH!!! *some sarcasm intended*

[dallaskd]

Brenden got put on his ass the whole first round, but Jensen did no work from the top. He's a stud wrestler, but thats it. No hands.

No worries, Brenden will lose in the next round. I dont know what to think about the whole Kimbo thing. Matt is such a pussy, but it looks like Kimbo cant fight either. Who knows..

[BlackSwordsMan]

tuf finale is better than the last couple of ppv's

[MannyIsGod]

Pretty anxious for tonight. Hoping Big Baby dominates.

[dbreiden83080]

Pretty anxious for tonight. Hoping Big Baby dominates.

Same here.. :toast

[CubanSucks]

Marcus is acting like a fucking bitch. "My fwiend got hurt so I'm going to beat you up!" He's so immature it's disgusting.

[MannyIsGod]

Dude is just emotional. Love that about him. He's probably also the one with the biggest heart out of that entire crew. Nothing about him that screams bitch or immature.

[MannyIsGod]

God I hate Roy Nelson.

[MannyIsGod]

McSweeny got fucking cocky. Fucking dumbass.

[MannyIsGod]

Damn Marcus got knocked the fuck out :(

[oligarchy]

Anyone with a decent punch will knock his ass out in a hurry. Marcus stands up way too straight w/ his chin just hanging out there. I love the guy, but he's gonna get ktfo next round.

Also, I'm betting on the chubby bearded kid fighting Nelson -- I think he's gonna win it all.

You got one right.

[CubanSucks]

Dude is just emotional. Love that about him. He's probably also the one with the biggest heart out of that entire crew. Nothing about him that screams bitch or immature.

I didn't say he WAS a bitch but he most definately was acting like one there. A mature person would be able to control their emotions. Now I'm not saying a mature person would never get emotional and act irrationally but DAMN he just flat out took it to a whole nother level.

[dallaskd]

This episode was exactly how i thought it would play out. I love Marcus but he fights like a zombie. I think Roy wins the finale. He takes a shot better than anyone. He will take it to the ground and get a 2nd round submission. Anyone else feel bad for Zack? Hes such a bitch pushover its pathetic. Poor guy.. Mitrione is still a bitch. Unfotunately he may KO big baby if Marcus doesnt learn to cover up or cant get it to the ground quick.

Rampage would kill Rashad if they ever will fight. Hes so fucking cocky..

[dallaskd]

I didn't say he WAS a bitch but he most definately was acting like one there. A mature person would be able to control their emotions. Now I'm not saying a mature person would never get emotional and act irrationally but DAMN he just flat out took it to a whole nother level.

Scott was his friend. But I think the main reason was it was Matt who did it so that pissed him off more. :lol I want to beat the shit out of Matt just watching him at home :lol but still he needs to understand it was a fight and not personal.. shit happens in a fight

[dbreiden83080]

Rampage would kill Rashad if they ever will fight. Hes so fucking cocky..

It'll happen. Dana at the UFC 106 Q and A was saying if Rashad gets bye Silva, he and Page will probably fight. I guess that means he and Page are talking again. I think Rashad loses to Silva anyway but he and Page should be back on soon. After all this shit, those guys have to fight..

[MannyIsGod]

Mitrone was tapping as soon as he got down. :lol

Hate that guy.

[dallaskd]

I fucking hate Mitrione. Zack is a pussy, but at least he shuts up.

[dallaskd]

On a second thought, its probably not fair to call Zack a pussy. He just has no confidence what so ever in himself. Its depressing to see someone like that.

[dbreiden83080]

A couple thoughts..

Good finale, had fun watching it. Big Baby felt very bad for, i thought he had that last fight. Man he had the mount and could not get it done, sucks.. :depressed Good News he gets to fight Mitrione at the finale and with his bad ground game should be an easy win for him.

Mcsweeney is a bitch, pure and simple. How many times do we have to hear him say or do something stupid and then say with that annoying fuckin accent of his "I'll knock you the fuck out". What a douchebag, thank GOD he lost. I hope to not see much of him in the UFC at all..

Roy wins with another crucifix position, what a shock.. :lol He'll probably do the same to Brandon in the finale..

[dallaskd]

I dont blame Roy for going for the crucifix. If it wins fights and these guys dont know how to defend it then why not?? And Dana how was this any more impressive than his fight vs Kimbo??

[dbreiden83080]

Mitrone was tapping as soon as he got down. :lol

Hate that guy.

He's a headcase with ZERO heart..

[dbreiden83080]

I dont blame Roy for going for the crucifix. If it wins fights and these guys dont know how to defend it then why not?? And Dana how was this any more impressive than his fight vs Kimbo??

I'm serious i bet he does the same to Brandon in the finale.. It's like every BJ Penn win is with a RNC...

[oligarchy]

This episode was exactly how i thought it would play out. I love Marcus but he fights like a zombie. I think Roy wins the finale. He takes a shot better than anyone. He will take it to the ground and get a 2nd round submission. Anyone else feel bad for Zack? Hes such a bitch pushover its pathetic. Poor guy.. Mitrione is still a bitch. Unfotunately he may KO big baby if Marcus doesnt learn to cover up or cant get it to the ground quick.

Rampage would kill Rashad if they ever will fight. Hes so fucking cocky..

I think it'll be over in the first. Roy will take him down pretty easily and work a sub, or pin his arm and punch him out (ref stoppage).

[Stringer_Bell]

Dude is just emotional. Love that about him. He's probably also the one with the biggest heart out of that entire crew. Nothing about him that screams bitch or immature.

Marcus is an immature hypocrite. He got upset over someone drawing the word "balls" or something on a piece of paper because his kids might see it on TV, yet he gets up in Mitrione's face telling him he'll kill him because Scott Junk got hurt in a fight. Who the fuck does he think he is? Rocky Balboa avenging Apollo? I already stated my dislike for Brendan but I'm glad he chopped that tree down and laid his ass to sleep.

McSweeney is the biggest pussy I've ever seen on non-PPV television. He bullied Zack and when Zack fought back he kicked him in the balls. It was a bitch move, but not surprising from a loser that lost 2 fights in a row (sub & TKO) before going on TUF10. I wonder who he knows behind the scenes that got him that gig. It felt great watching Big Country use his punches to paint McSweeney's face like a clown. :ihit

/end rant

EDIT: Wes Sims vs Kimbo would have been a good fight too. Sims wouldn't be laughing at everything when his teeth are in his throat.

[dbreiden83080]

Who the fuck does he think he is? Rocky Balboa avenging Apollo?.

:lmao

http://www.freewebs.com/rockyfilms/apollo%20dead.jpg

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao Alright Alright. I still love Marcus but I see your point.

[Blackjack]

Anyone else feel bad for Zack? Hes such a bitch pushover its pathetic. Poor guy..

Yeah, I caught myself feeling sorry for him. Mcdouchebag had me wanting to jump through the screen..


Mitrione is still a bitch. Unfotunately he may KO big baby if Marcus doesnt learn to cover up or cant get it to the ground quick.

You can't take the guy lightly, that's for sure.. He may be a complete tool and someone it's seemingly impossible to root for, but the combination of his hands and Marcus' upright approach could be bad news..


Rampage would kill Rashad if they ever will fight. Hes so fucking cocky..

There was a point early where I was starting to warm up to 'Shad a little bit, but that time has passed..

'Page better stop fuckin' around and whoop that B. A. Barac-ass..


A couple thoughts..

Good finale, had fun watching it. Big Baby felt very bad for, i thought he had that last fight. Man he had the mount and could not get it done, sucks.. :depressed Good News he gets to fight Mitrione at the finale and with his bad ground game should be an easy win for him.

Mcsweeney is a bitch, pure and simple. How many times do we have to hear him say or do something stupid and then say with that annoying fuckin accent of his "I'll knock you the fuck out". What a douchebag, thank GOD he lost. I hope to not see much of him in the UFC at all..

Roy wins with another crucifix position, what a shock.. :lol He'll probably do the same to Brandon in the finale..

Agree.:tu

Man, if only Marcus would have come to the sport in his late 20's. The guy has so much composure and purpose in his movement on the ground, and just a really good overall feel there; they said he's been doing it for what, 2 years?:wow

He's got that explosiveness in bursts you find in NFL-types and just a really good demeanor in the octagon. If he had started earlier with his standup with how much of a natural he seems to be on the ground, he could have been one hell of a fighter; I really hope we see an utter dismantling or disassembling when it comes to Mitrione. That was a hell of a showing in the 'Schooner fight, though..

I felt pretty shitty right after the Marcus loss, but then the promo came.. I'm absolutely jacked for the Finale; put up or shut up time for Kimbo. He's got the standup matchup he wanted and it's time to see if those hands really are worthy of being feared.

Anyone else find it strange how Edgar is always just lurking on the fringe of TUF. He doesn't make the house for the first season, but he almost feels like part of the fraternity in a way..

[760Spursfan]

I am watching TUF as we speak and I am assuming Marcus looses? I guess next time I shouldn't look at this thread when most of you are two hours ahead of me!!!

[dbreiden83080]

'Page better stop fuckin' around and whoop that B. A. Barac-ass..

Dana is part of the problem. Which is why i really don't care for him. He makes too much of this stuff about him. From what i have read and seen, Page is really pissed off that Dana apparently over the phone with Page, agreed to postpone the fight and Page's decision to make the movie, (begrudging I'm sure) but agreed and then he turned around and did a bunch of interviews making fun of him and his decision to make the movie. I even heard a radio interview Dana did where he was asked "If he would consider cutting Page from the UFC" and he said "I'm not there yet, who knows" "Who knows, not yet" You bet Page heard that because a few days later he ranted on his blog telling Dana to go screw himself and that he was done. Was Page wrong to bail on the fight for the movie? Yes but all he wanted was a delay. Dana as usual opened his big mouth, acted like a 10 year old, threw a hissy fit and now we have this mess.

Dana's not a fighter. I could care less about any personal beef he has with any fighter on any level. He should be on his hands and knees begging Page to return. Why? Because he is a great fighter and he and Evans was going to be a huge fight. All this other stuff is worthless.. The only thing that matters is the fights..

Phew

End Rant

[Evan]

good season...low drama moar training

[lebomb]

I couldnt stand McSweeney............Im so glad the MOON belly pounded his ass out. JM talked a lot of shit, and couldnt back a damn thing up. What a douche.

[cool cat]

Good show for what has been a pretty boring season.

[Evan]

Good show for what has been a pretty boring season.

this is a problem they run into and I am not judging you here...

1. Exciting season means cool drama and crazy shit. This pisses off the die hard fan (which is a rather small group) and makes many potential fighters wary of joining a later season so they don't look bad.

2. Boring seasons means loads of training and more focus on fighters & fighting which pleases fighters & die hards but makes that giant group of common fans kinda bored.

IMO the solution is to have a TUF every 9 to 12 months. They are too close together now.

[The TroutBum]

This is the first season I've ever watched. I liked it, but was astonished at how shitty everyone's conditioning was.

[Blackjack]

Dana is part of the problem. Which is why i really don't care for him. He makes too much of this stuff about him. From what i have read and seen, Page is really pissed off that Dana apparently over the phone with Page, agreed to postpone the fight and Page's decision to make the movie, (begrudging I'm sure) but agreed and then he turned around and did a bunch of interviews making fun of him and his decision to make the movie. I even heard a radio interview Dana did where he was asked "If he would consider cutting Page from the UFC" and he said "I'm not there yet, who knows" "Who knows, not yet" You bet Page heard that because a few days later he ranted on his blog telling Dana to go screw himself and that he was done. Was Page wrong to bail on the fight for the movie? Yes but all he wanted was a delay. Dana as usual opened his big mouth, acted like a 10 year old, threw a hissy fit and now we have this mess.

Dana's not a fighter. I could care less about any personal beef he has with any fighter on any level. He should be on his hands and knees begging Page to return. Why? Because he is a great fighter and he and Evans was going to be a huge fight. All this other stuff is worthless.. The only thing that matters is the fights..

Phew

End Rant

No doubt, Dana's douchebag factor is off the charts..

There's little doubt in my mind that Dana didn't make a bad situation worse and play his part in the fiasco that's become 'Page-'Shad; I just wish 'Page would have said fuck it all and found a way to get this shit done in light of this TUF season.

I'm sure it'll get done eventually, but 'Page was in the wrong to back out after making a commitment; as is Dana who's doing nothing to really help the situation, as you rightly pointed out.

It's really quite amazing that someone like Dana can be the frontman for an organization, much less thrive in the way he's doing so..

[MannyIsGod]

This is the first season I've ever watched. I liked it, but was astonished at how shitty everyone's conditioning was.

Yeah I was really suprised to see how well competitors in previous seasons have done in the UFC because of how poor some of these guys looked in the ring.

Its my understanding that they get better between the last episode and the finale due to lots of training but god damn they show signs but look fairly poor in my (new to mma) opinion.


Also, on Zak, how the hell is someone like that into fighting? I don't understand how such a big pussy or someone who is so insecure puts himself into a ring to fight. I'm amazed to see someone like that on this show.

Also, why didn't he just go home? He lost and wasn't going to fight again so just go home and save yourself the grief. Don't understand that dude at all.

[desflood]

This is the first season I've ever watched. I liked it, but was astonished at how shitty everyone's conditioning was.


Yeah I was really suprised to see how well competitors in previous seasons have done in the UFC because of how poor some of these guys looked in the ring.
It's like this - this season was all about Kimbo. He was the main draw, the ratings-getter. With his low level of skill they had to bring in a lot of other low-level guys. They had to give him a decent chance of winning - if he gets knocked out of the competition early or just looks really bad the show loses viewers, which is why even after he lost they kept up the teasers about him making a comeback. A lot of the fighters from the earlier seasons are doing so well because they are much better than these fighters - aside from Roy Nelson (and possibly Schaub), we probably won't see any of the guys from this season in the UFC again.

[dbreiden83080]

but 'Page was in the wrong to back out after making a commitment; as is Dana who's doing nothing to really help the situation, as you rightly pointed out.

It's really quite amazing that someone like Dana can be the frontman for an organization, much less thrive in the way he's doing so..

In about 5 interviews since when the Page situation has come up Dana usually says something like "Page has left for now, he's mad at me and i am really mad at him too, in fact i'm disgusted" Dana nobody cares that you are mad at a fighter but you. Nobody.. That's why i think he still doesn't get it. Tito was out of the UFC mainly because Dana hated him and they could not be in the same room together. Now Page is out for now due largely to a Dana White Beef. It's moronic and Unnecessary..

[desflood]

He's announced that he's returning. I'll laugh my ass off if Rashad beats him.

[polandprzem]

McSweeney is the biggest pussy I've ever seen on non-PPV television. He bullied Zack and when Zack fought back he kicked him in the balls. It was a bitch move, but not surprising from a loser that lost 2 fights in a row (sub & TKO) before going on TUF10. I wonder who he knows behind the scenes that got him that gig. It felt great watching Big Country use his punches to paint McSweeney's face like a clown. :ihit.

Well I don't know but he was there in rashards crew when Rashard was fighting Machida


Good that Marcus went down. I kinda liked ghim but he got pissed about a situation when rashard did not selected him for the fight then the 'balls' piece of art and then jumping over mitthead ? For no reason.


And seriously wow - I wonder how is that possible that rampage did not sell a cross to rashards face. Just wow.

[dbreiden83080]

He's announced that he's returning. I'll laugh my ass off if Rashad beats him.

Awesome now Rashad gets his ass kicked by Silva and Page..

[ATRAIN]

McSweeney is the biggest pussy I've ever seen on non-PPV television. He bullied Zack and when Zack fought back he kicked him in the balls. It was a bitch move, but not surprising from a loser that lost 2 fights in a row (sub & TKO) before going on TUF10. I wonder who he knows behind the scenes that got him that gig. It felt great watching Big Country use his punches to paint McSweeney's face like a clown. :ihit

Im still shocked they didnt do anything to that bitch. He clearly instigated a fight and got away with it. Since the UFC is so popular for the brits I know they want as many brit fighters as possible even if they are all assholes. Well except for that one guy..........."Im a gladiator". It was Ross right?