draft87
06-02-2009, 03:39 AM
has anyone been messing with espn.com's trade machine?
i tried a bunch of things at the deadline when we were talking about camby and carter. it's pretty fun and informative. makes the whole process make more sense, less frustrating. no more 'if new orleans wants to save money why don't we just send them oberto for chandler?'
you gotta meet the league's cap requirements in addition to the various contract requirements.
anyway, here's a wild fantasy trade.
what's nuts is the impact espn predicts it will have on both teams.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kny9bc
both deng and ginobili are gambles cause both have been HURT A LOT.
chicago gets a 2 guard that they'll probably need to fill should they not get gordon signed. they get a 'big' in oberto to replace noah. if you consider bowen a 3, then it's deng for bowen. and ginobili for hinrich as combo guards.
but seriously, why not?
what if ginobili's never the same? what if he is but gets hurt AGAIN? what happens in another year when he's a free agent? we get young with hinrich and better defensively. he's athletic, smart, and can shoot 3s. did i mention he can shoot? who was making shots when ginobili was out?
deng-assuming he gets back in shape and is 100% he too is YOUNG.
=atheltic wing who can creat shots and play D. isn't that exactly what we need? his contract is bigger than the trade is valued at, but we really need to drop some $s and build a future. our budgetmindedness has worked but the times are changing, and we should be the team who steps and shows LBJ, wade, bosh, etc that we're willing to spend.
noah- another young athletic player with a high energy factor. did you see him in the celtics series? he was a beast. how much do we know we can count on ian to fill the 5 spot? how many minutes can we play kurt thomas? the bonner experiment doesn't work against a bunch of matchups. this kid has another year on his deal, right? first of all, he's 'cheap' and if it's a bust then we get someone else next year and all we gave up was oberto. can he put up oberto's numbers? yes. will he fit in the system like oberto did? maybe, we'll see, but he will bring a great energy that we don't have on the team let alone the 5 spot.
this would be a big big trade, possibly enough to satisfy the minds of 'major overhaul'
the big 3 would either be the 'new big 3' or just the big 2
but we'd be young, while retaining(or regaining) the defensive identity we've always had.
but look at these lineups
1-parker
2-mason
3-deng
4-duncan
5-noah
2nd unit
1-hill
2-hinrich
3-finley(assuming we get him back)
4-gooden(assuming we get him back)
5-thomas
and when we need to spread the floor we have bonner. or we use his expiring contract as a trade chip. we'll still get to throw ian in the mix, thomas shouldn't be asked to put that many minutes in anyway.
hinrich let's us toughen up in the frontcourt. we're still a little undersized but he can play the minutes that would've been trouble for mason defensively. that'll let hill take more time to develop at the point position.
i tried a bunch of things at the deadline when we were talking about camby and carter. it's pretty fun and informative. makes the whole process make more sense, less frustrating. no more 'if new orleans wants to save money why don't we just send them oberto for chandler?'
you gotta meet the league's cap requirements in addition to the various contract requirements.
anyway, here's a wild fantasy trade.
what's nuts is the impact espn predicts it will have on both teams.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kny9bc
both deng and ginobili are gambles cause both have been HURT A LOT.
chicago gets a 2 guard that they'll probably need to fill should they not get gordon signed. they get a 'big' in oberto to replace noah. if you consider bowen a 3, then it's deng for bowen. and ginobili for hinrich as combo guards.
but seriously, why not?
what if ginobili's never the same? what if he is but gets hurt AGAIN? what happens in another year when he's a free agent? we get young with hinrich and better defensively. he's athletic, smart, and can shoot 3s. did i mention he can shoot? who was making shots when ginobili was out?
deng-assuming he gets back in shape and is 100% he too is YOUNG.
=atheltic wing who can creat shots and play D. isn't that exactly what we need? his contract is bigger than the trade is valued at, but we really need to drop some $s and build a future. our budgetmindedness has worked but the times are changing, and we should be the team who steps and shows LBJ, wade, bosh, etc that we're willing to spend.
noah- another young athletic player with a high energy factor. did you see him in the celtics series? he was a beast. how much do we know we can count on ian to fill the 5 spot? how many minutes can we play kurt thomas? the bonner experiment doesn't work against a bunch of matchups. this kid has another year on his deal, right? first of all, he's 'cheap' and if it's a bust then we get someone else next year and all we gave up was oberto. can he put up oberto's numbers? yes. will he fit in the system like oberto did? maybe, we'll see, but he will bring a great energy that we don't have on the team let alone the 5 spot.
this would be a big big trade, possibly enough to satisfy the minds of 'major overhaul'
the big 3 would either be the 'new big 3' or just the big 2
but we'd be young, while retaining(or regaining) the defensive identity we've always had.
but look at these lineups
1-parker
2-mason
3-deng
4-duncan
5-noah
2nd unit
1-hill
2-hinrich
3-finley(assuming we get him back)
4-gooden(assuming we get him back)
5-thomas
and when we need to spread the floor we have bonner. or we use his expiring contract as a trade chip. we'll still get to throw ian in the mix, thomas shouldn't be asked to put that many minutes in anyway.
hinrich let's us toughen up in the frontcourt. we're still a little undersized but he can play the minutes that would've been trouble for mason defensively. that'll let hill take more time to develop at the point position.