Nikos Pappas For Spurs #53 Draft Pick

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I think Milos Teodosic is first target for this pick because he is 22. But second target for this pick should be Nikos Pappas. He is 18 so this is why I put him as second choice here.

But he would be second best choice I think at 53 so if Teodosic is gone then Spurs should take Pappas.

Pappas is 18 so it would be long term draft pick. But he is one of best European players ever at his age. For sure I think he is in top 5 European players ever at his age.

Pappas was on world team at Nike Hoop Summit that beat US team with John Wall and all these American players that is rate so high. Also Pappas will play at Reebok Camp at Treviso as see here in the players list.

http://www.reebokeurocamp.com/page.php?pid=71

Pappas has 4 more years left on his contract with Spanish club Bilbao. But in these 4 years he might be a great player so it is worth the 53 pick I think.

[samikeyp]

Goran Suton at #53

[pad300]

Is he staying in? I really doubt it, assuming he's as good as you say...

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Is he staying in? I really doubt it, assuming he's as good as you say...

Well I think it will depend on how he do at Treviso at the Reebok Euro Camp. Because there he will be play against the players that is all older then him. Hoop Summit was against USA best high school players but Reebok camp is against mostly 20-22 age European players.

We will see.

[ChumpDumper]

Is he Greek?

[completely deck]

Is he Greek?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Is he Greek?

Any other racist comments to make?

[ChumpDumper]

So is he Greek?

[Nick, the Nazi]

Does he have a big jewish schlong?





Seriously, Balki, where do you get the idea that the Spurs FO is trying to sign every greek player out there? Just stop posting this nonsense already.

[timtonymanu]

i went to the Nike Hoop Summit in Portland. Nikos was pretty good.

[Biggems]

Any other racist comments to make?

Greek is a nationality not a race, Einstein.....you are so flipping ignorant.

That is like calling someone who hates homosexuals, or puts down the opposite sex, a racist.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Greek is a nationality not a race, Einstein.....you are so flipping ignorant.

That is like calling someone who hates homosexuals, or puts down the opposite sex, a racist.

So then he is a bigot. Correct?

[ChumpDumper]

Did anyone find out if he is Greek yet?

[MaNu4Tres]

lol he is Greek

[smrattler]

... and he loves it when they call him Big Poppas!

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

:lmao

[CubanMustGo]

Why isn't KBP's stuff getting moved to the think tank like all the other draft/trade-related threads?

[lefty]

Nikos Pappas sucks

[Dr. Gonzo]

You know Euro basketball guy best play in world. He make pass good and hard like better Tony Parker with wheel. He guy make bucket with spin in net in Final cup tournament Tuesday.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Spurs screwed up. They should have drafted Pappas. So far at FIBA Under 19 World Championship he is DOMINATING and is the best player of the entire tournament so far.

This player is second in the world only to Rubio in his age group.

[scottspurs]

Spurs screwed up. They should have drafted Pappas. So far at FIBA Under 19 World Championship he is DOMINATING and is the best player of the entire tournament so far.

This player is second in the world only to Rubio in his age group.

The spurs didn't screw up anything. They had a great draft. Blair is a Beast and McClinton could really contribute. De Colo is a nice draft and stash player. I think the Spurs FO knows what their doing. You say this Pappas guy is dominating, but you don't give a single stat? Sorry, but I'll take who we got.

[Spursfan092120]

Spurs screwed up. They should have drafted Pappas. So far at FIBA Under 19 World Championship he is DOMINATING and is the best player of the entire tournament so far.

This player is second in the world only to Rubio in his age group.
Dude...you've got to stop pushing people just because they're Greek...it's sad. He's 5th in PPG in the tourney with 20, tied with 8 people for 14th in assists with 3 per game, and has the most turnovers per game, averaging 4.5. Explain how this is dominant. Yes...I looked it up on the official FIBA U19 site...and yes..I did it because I knew you were wrong. Now...go ahead and say "stupid fool..you are racist." I just don't understand how a guy can be dominant in a tournament when he's averaging 4.5 turnovers per game with a bunch of people under the age of 19. De Colo was the 4th ranked international player and your Pappas player wasn't even in the Top 35...and yeah...I looked that up too. But yeah..we should have drafted him, because he's so dominating.

Look for yourself....
http://newzealand2009.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/09/u19men/p/index.html
Click on stats.

[ChumpDumper]

So awesome no one drafted him.

[ChumpDumper]

Pappas has 4 more years left on his contract with Spanish club Bilbao.Forget anyone with a contract that long.

Especially a Greek.

[z0sa]

:td

[jag]

lol at this bump

[GSH]

Yeah, if there's one thing the Spurs need it's a PG who gets 1 assist and 4 turnovers playing against fucking Angola. And not the "good' team - the Angola children's team.

If that doesn't prove he's NBA ready, I don't know what would.

[jjktkk]

Maybe we should of drafted KBP? Could of had em back up up our towel boy and scout Greece from his home in Houston.

[JamStone]

I was hoping the Pistons would have traded for the #61 pick in the draft and taken him.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Dude...you've got to stop pushing people just because they're Greek...it's sad. He's 5th in PPG in the tourney with 20, tied with 8 people for 14th in assists with 3 per game, and has the most turnovers per game, averaging 4.5. Explain how this is dominant. Yes...I looked it up on the official FIBA U19 site...and yes..I did it because I knew you were wrong. Now...go ahead and say "stupid fool..you are racist." I just don't understand how a guy can be dominant in a tournament when he's averaging 4.5 turnovers per game with a bunch of people under the age of 19. De Colo was the 4th ranked international player and your Pappas player wasn't even in the Top 35...and yeah...I looked that up too. But yeah..we should have drafted him, because he's so dominating.

Look for yourself....
http://newzealand2009.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/09/u19men/p/index.html
Click on stats.

You fucking idiot. Your whole basketball "knowledge" is some stats. You have probably never watched a game in your life. And yes he is dominating. Controlling the games like no other. He is light years a better prospect than De Colo is.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Yeah, if there's one thing the Spurs need it's a PG who gets 1 assist and 4 turnovers playing against fucking Angola. And not the "good' team - the Angola children's team.

If that doesn't prove he's NBA ready, I don't know what would.

He is a shooting guard dumb ass.

[ChumpDumper]

He wasn't even in the draft, douchebag.

He withdrew because he wasn't guaranteed a starting position and his mom had a cold.

[Shastafarian]

You fucking idiot. Your whole basketball "knowledge" is some stats. You have probably never watched a game in your life. And yes he is dominating. Controlling the games like no other. He is light years a better prospect than De Colo is.

So wait, what's your excuse this time for flinging insults? You need to shut the fuck up already. Your shtick has been old for some time. On top of that, you're insulting posters who are much more knowledgeable and amiable than you. I vote you get pinked again.

[Obstructed_View]

He is a shooting guard dumb ass.

So you're saying that a 1:4 Assist/TO ratio against a bad team is good for a two guard?

[NZ Spurs]

I just got back from watching Lithuania beat Greece. The Lithuanian team was to big for the small ball Greeks. Your boy Pappas was pretty average. Konstantinos Papanikolaou on the other hand was nice. His shooting kept them in it.

[ChumpDumper]

No wonder he pussed out of the draft.

[timvp]

Papa John's has some pretty good pizza.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

So you're saying that a 1:4 Assist/TO ratio against a bad team is good for a two guard?

Learn what a damn FIBA assist is. Do you have any basketball knowledge at all?

Jose Calderon in Europe = 2 assists per game. Look it up.

[ChumpDumper]

Learn what a damn FIBA assist is. Do you have any basketball knowledge at all?

Jose Calderon in Europe = 2 assists per game. Look it up.What is his assist to turnover ratio?

Look it up for me.

[coopdogg3]

All your base, are belong to us.

[sabar]

Forget the ratio, 4.5 turnovers per game is horrible. I dunno how often they convert FGAs in euro play, but he would give the other team 3-4 points per game by default in the NBA.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

What is his assist to turnover ratio?

Look it up for me.

Under FIBA rules Calderon assist to turnover =

2 to 1 last year of Euroleague

More proof how inflated NBA stats are where in NBA he can get 5 to 1 ratio.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Forget the ratio, 4.5 turnovers per game is horrible. I dunno how often they convert FGAs in euro play, but he would give the other team 3-4 points per game by default in the NBA.

Rubio averages over 7 turnovers per 40 minutes in Euroleague. Is there a reason NBA was drooling over him? Pappas is the SAME age as Rubio. You expect a fucking perfect player at 18? And Pappas is averaging 4 turnovers not 4.5.

[ChumpDumper]

Under FIBA rules Calderon assist to turnover =

2 to 1 last year of Euroleague

More proof how inflated NBA stats are where in NBA he can get 5 to 1 ratio.So 1 to 4 is still horrible in Europe.

More proof that Popass sucks.

Why are you bitching about a shitty player who wasn't even available in the draft?

[sabar]

Rubio averages over 7 turnovers per 40 minutes in Euroleague. Is there a reason NBA was drooling over him? Pappas is the SAME age as Rubio. You expect a fucking perfect player at 18?

Weak draft, kid's a bust.

How does someone even manage 7 turnovers per game?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

So 1 to 4 is still horrible in Europe.

More proof that Popass sucks.

Why are you bitching about a shitty player who wasn't even available in the draft?

You are a true moron. This guy is one of the best in Europe ever at his age. You will be shut up when this tournament is over.

[ChumpDumper]

The difference between Rubio and Papass is Rubio doesn't suck.

[ChumpDumper]

You are a true moron. This guy is one of the best in Europe ever at his age. You will be shut up when this tournament is over.He wasn't in the draft.

You should have shut up when he wasn't in the draft.

[sabar]

No draft and 4 years left on the contract

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

The difference between Rubio and Papass is Rubio doesn't suck.

You claim turnovers = suck ass player

You claim Rubio "does not suck"

Yet Rubio is the all time king of turnovers in basketball history

Your logic = pathetic

[ChumpDumper]

You claim turnovers = suck ass player

You claim Rubio "does not suck"

Yet Rubio is the all time king of turnovers in basketball history

Your logic = patheticI said a 1:4 assist/turnover ratio sucked.

Are you saying it's good?

[sabar]

You claim turnovers = suck ass player

You claim Rubio "does not suck"

Yet Rubio is the all time king of turnovers in basketball history

Your logic = pathetic

Sorry, Eddie Curry was already crowned the king of turnovers
http://www.82games.com/random29.htm

You need to fact check.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I said a 1:4 assist/turnover ratio sucked.

Are you saying it's good?

For a shooting guard under FIBA rules it is quite good.

[ChumpDumper]

Yet Rubio is the all time king of turnovers in basketball historyIn all of basketball history.

Please show the all-time historical record for basketball turnovers.

We're waiting for a link.

[ChumpDumper]

For a shooting guard under FIBA rules it is quite good.Could you make any more excuses for his sucking?

Look, I'm sorry his mom has syphilis, but that is no reason to pull out of the draft.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Sorry, Eddie Curry was already crowned the king of turnovers
http://www.82games.com/random29.htm

You need to fact check.

Let him get 7.2 turnovers per 40 minutes like Rubio averages and then you can talk.

[ChumpDumper]

Let him get 7.2 turnovers per 40 minutes like Rubio averages and then you can talk.There are several players who turn the ball over at a higher rate.

You suck.

Again.

[sabar]

Let him get 7.2 turnovers per 40 minutes like Rubio averages and then you can talk.

I'm not arguing who had more turnovers. You crowned Rubio the king of turnovers when someone already possessed said title.

I would imagine that players that pull off 7 turnovers per 40 minutes don't make it far past summer league and hence the lack of 7 turnover per game NBA players. This actually only serves as an argument that Rubio sucks.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Could you make any more excuses for his sucking?

Look, I'm sorry his mom has syphilis, but that is no reason to pull out of the draft.

You are a joke in basketball knowledge. And moron could look up assists to turnover ratios in European leagues and FIBA competitions and would see that is a perfectly normal ratio for any shooting guard.

Calderon a POINT GUARD that got 5 to 1 ratio in NBA had 2 to 1 in Europe

Manu a Spurs shooting guard that you might possibly have seen play even though it is doubtful considering the disturbing level of your lack of basketball knowledge, anyway

Manu's ratio was 1.25 to 1 his last year in Europe under FIBA rules

LOOK AT IT DUMB ASS and THEN STFU

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=AKX&seasoncode=E2001

Manu 3 assists 2.4 turnovers = 1.25 to 1


So I guess you can tell the whole forum how Manu has no fucking business ever being in the NBA then. Go ahead.

[ChumpDumper]

You are a joke in basketball knowledge. And moron could look up assists to turnover ratios in European leagues and FIBA competitions and would see that is a perfectly normal ratio for any shooting guard.

Calderon a POINT GUARD that got 5 to 1 ratio in NBA had 2 to 1 in Europe

Manu a Spurs shooting guard that you might possibly have seen play even though it is doubtful considering the disturbing level of your lack of basketball knowledge, anyway

Manu's ratio was 1.25 to 1 his last year in Europe under FIBA rules

LOOK AT IT DUMB ASS and THEN STFU

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=AKX&seasoncode=E2001

Manu 3 assists 2.4 turnovers = 1.25 to 1


So I guess you can tell the whole forum how Manu has no fucking business ever being in the NBA then. Go ahead.I'm saying that's better than 1 to 4.

Thanks for proving me right by showing how much better Manu's ratio is than your loser Greek coward.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I'm saying that's better than 1 to 4.

Thanks for proving me right by showing how much better Manu's ratio is than your loser Greek coward.

It is not 1 to 4 you fucking dumb ass. Stop making up fake stats out of your ass and learn proper math. And it is just a 3 game sample jerk off. You must have the mental capacity of a 5 year old.

[ChumpDumper]

It is not 1 to 4 you fucking dumb ass. Stop making up fake stats out of your ass and learn proper math. And it is just a 3 game sample jerk off. You must have the mental capacity of a 5 year old.When you make one assist and four turnovers, your assist to turnover ratio is 1 to 4.

Hey you don't even realize he wasn't available to be drafted.

That's pretty stupid.

[sabar]

Perhaps the ratio should be expressed in decimals to resolve any English-Greek disambiguity.

[ChumpDumper]

You know, Rubio's Euroleague ratio of 1.67 is very good for such a young player at such a high level.

No wonder he was drafted so high and Pappas wasn't drafted at all.

[TheTruth]

It is not 1 to 4 you fucking dumb ass. Stop making up fake stats out of your ass and learn proper math. And it is just a 3 game sample jerk off. You must have the mental capacity of a 5 year old.

It's hilarious how much better his english is when he's pissed.

You are a fantastic troll KBP!

[exstatic]

I think Milos Teodosic is first target for this pick because he is 22. But second target for this pick should be Nikos Pappas. He is 18 so this is why I put him as second choice here.

But he would be second best choice I think at 53 so if Teodosic is gone then Spurs should take Pappas.

Pappas is 18 so it would be long term draft pick. But he is one of best European players ever at his age. For sure I think he is in top 5 European players ever at his age.

Pappas was on world team at Nike Hoop Summit that beat US team with John Wall and all these American players that is rate so high. Also Pappas will play at Reebok Camp at Treviso as see here in the players list.

http://www.reebokeurocamp.com/page.php?pid=71

Pappas has 4 more years left on his contract with Spanish club Bilbao. But in these 4 years he might be a great player so it is worth the 53 pick I think.

fail

[benefactor]

I was hoping the Pistons would have traded for the #61 pick in the draft and taken him.
:lol

[GSH]

It is not 1 to 4 you fucking dumb ass. Stop making up fake stats out of your ass and learn proper math. And it is just a 3 game sample jerk off. You must have the mental capacity of a 5 year old.

Usually the ratio would be stated as .250, or .25 to 1, but they are all the same thing. A 1 to 4 assist-to-turnover ratio. Math is the same, even in Greece. And in any league, 1 assist per 4 turnovers is shit for a 1 or 2 guard. It's bad enough for a big man who doesn't pass much out of the low blocks, so doesn't get many assists, but for a guard it's a sign of a guy who can't handle the ball.

But the worst part is that it was against the absolutely fucking pitiful children's team from Angola. This is a guy who is supposed to be the best ever at his age, and he can't distribute or hang onto the ball against fucking Angola? And don't forget, KBP... in another current thread, you yourself talk about how the Angolans aren't even competitive.

And I know it's already been mentioned, but how in the hell did you expect the Spurs to draft a guy who wasn't even in the fucking draft? Did you consider suggesting that the Spurs should draft Drazen Petrovic (dead) or Pau Gasol? Or do you just hype Greek players who aren't eligible to be drafted?

[Spursfan092120]

You fucking idiot. Your whole basketball "knowledge" is some stats. You have probably never watched a game in your life. And yes he is dominating. Controlling the games like no other. He is light years a better prospect than De Colo is.
4.5 turnovers a game is dominating? Are you sick? And you're the one who always talks about stats. You bitching at someone for using stats as an argument is definitely the pot calling the kettle black. And NO one...besides you...would put him above De Colo...De Colo was the 4th highest rated international player...Nikos wasn't even in the top 35..and no one even had hmi on their draft board...but yeah...light years ahead..you're an idiot. And if you're saying that someone is "dominating" a tournament, their stats would prove it.

[Spursfan092120]

For a shooting guard under FIBA rules it is quite good.
So 4 turnovers per 1 assist is good? LMAO...No wonder they're so damn good over there and then when they try to play over here they suck..

[completely deck]

this shit gets so old, so fast.

[Pucho!!!]

How many greek players actually got drafted this year? And y is anyone on a Spurs forum concerned with players the Spurs aren't even considering or any other team for that matter, haha. Its all about the SHEED right now KBP, not Nikos Papa fritas :lol

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

In game against Team USA Pappas was the second leading scorer of the game counting both teams and lead the game in assists counting both teams.


All you fools can STFU.

[anakha]

In game against Team USA Pappas was the second leading scorer of the game counting both teams and lead the game in assists counting both teams.


All you fools can STFU.

He still wasn't in the draft.

[mathbzh]

Pappas is probably a fine player but 11 pts / 4 rbds /4 ast shooting 4/11FG to go with an 85-69 loss is hardly impressive.