Not a Good Day For NeoCon Hacks

[Nbadan]

First Ann Coulter causes a near riot at KU...


Conservative columnist and author Ann Coulter was greeted with a mixture of standing ovations and heckling after she took center stage Tuesday night at Kansas University's Lied Center.

As soon as she stepped up to the microphone, Coulter fired off one zinger after another about liberalism while promising to answer questions from left-wing members in the audience who could "thrash their way to a coherent thought."

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"I think there are some people in the audience who meant to be at the sexual reorientation class down the hall," Coulter said, in response to the heckling.

Moments later Coulter stopped and called for assistance from students when hecklers started in again and no one of authority was seen trying to stop them.

"Could 10 of the largest College Republicans start walking up and down the aisles and start removing anyone shouting?" Coulter asked. "Otherwise, this lecture is over."

LJWorld (http://www.ljworld.com/story200443.html)

Then Weekly Standard co-founder William Kristol takes a pie in the face...


By Don Fasnacht
Staff writer

A well-aimed pie tin filled with goop delayed, but failed to derail, an otherwise civil dialogue on U.S. foreign policy at Earlham Tuesday evening.

Neoconservative journalist and commentator William Kristol was about 30 minutes into his speech on international affairs when a slender young man crossed the stage of Goddard Auditorium and slung the ersatz pastry into his face.

Kristol appeared momentarily stunned, then wiped the brown and white goo from his eyes with a paper towel, stepped back to the podium and said, "Let me just finish this point."

... Kristol, a political activist and co-founder of The Weekly Standard, had been invited to speak by Earlham President Doug Bennett as part of an effort to introduce a variety of viewpoints on the campus.

Kristol's support of the Bush administration's foreign policy was seen as a counterbalance for the prevalent liberal views on the local campus.

Pal Item (http://www.pal-item.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050330/NEWS01/503300303/1008)

Propaganda to counter truth? Interesting slant by the writer.

[Spurminator]

Near riot? Talk about interesting slants.

But anyway, Ann can't honestly expect people to take her seriously. Her often hyperbolic (though sometimes entertaining) partisanship invites this kind of response. When your message sounds like WWF trash talk, you should expect a WWF audience.

[desflood]

Not to get off the subject, but the WWF was renamed the WWE some years ago. Just sos ya know...

[Spurminator]

I know, but all I remember is the WWF. For all I know, the WWE banned trash talk. ;)

[desflood]

Trashier than ever! But I notice that all conservatives have to do is talk and those who disagree with them get physical. Difference in behavior standards, perhaps?

[Useruser666]

Who cares about those people?

[Extra Stout]

I find it interesting that the Left has become so utterly impotent that the biggest victories they can claim are throwing pies at people and yelling during speeches.

While you're at it, why not go ahead and go outside yelling "Bush is a poopiehead!"

[sbsquared]

Here's the complete article - different slant when you read the WHOLE thing, as opposed to the snippets nbadan posts!!

Ann Coulter causes stir at KU
Heckling, standing ovations interrupt right-wing commentator
By Mike Belt, Journal-World

Wednesday, March 30, 2005


Richard Gwin/Journal World-Photos

Conservative columnist and author Ann Coulter was greeted with a mixture of standing ovations and heckling after she took center stage Tuesday night at Kansas University's Lied Center.

As soon as she stepped up to the microphone, Coulter fired off one zinger after another about liberalism while promising to answer questions from left-wing members in the audience who could "thrash their way to a coherent thought."

"I've come to find I like liberals a lot more," Coulter said early in her speech. "They're kind of cute when they're cold, shivering and afraid."

Coulter spoke as the 37th J.A. Vickers Sr. Memorial Lecture Series lecturer to a crowd estimated by KU officials at about 1,800 people. The lectures, which began in 1971, were established through a gift to the Kansas University Endowment Association by the Vickers family of Wichita.

Coulter received several standing ovations during her speech, but she also found herself interrupted several times by a small, scattered group of hecklers.

"I think there are some people in the audience who meant to be at the sexual reorientation class down the hall," Coulter said, in response to the heckling.

Moments later Coulter stopped and called for assistance from students when hecklers started in again and no one of authority was seen trying to stop them.

"Could 10 of the largest College Republicans start walking up and down the aisles and start removing anyone shouting?" Coulter asked. "Otherwise, this lecture is over."

Several people responded, leaving their seats to confront the hecklers, and verbal confrontations erupted in parts of the auditorium. One of those who answered Coulter's call was Michael Conner, a Shawnee freshman.

"All I did was say they shouldn't stop her from speaking," Conner said of confronting some audience members in the back of the auditorium.

Later, when heckling broke out again, a couple of uniformed KU Public Safety Department officers appeared and escorted about six people out of the auditorium.

Coulter resumed her critical remarks, calling Sen. Ted Kennedy a "human dirigible" and the Democrats' "spiritual leader." She also made fun of the Democrats' dalliance with filmmaker Michael Moore and former presidential candidate John Kerry, who she said got away with telling "big, fat, enormous lies."

Despite Kerry's loss, Democrats think their political stances and ideas just "need new labels for their bottles," Coulter said.

She also blasted the nation's judicial system for its handling of the Terri Schiavo case. "We no longer have a single check on the judiciary," she said.

Coulter's appearance spurred mixed emotions among those who came to see her. About a dozen protesters stood outside the center before her speech, carrying signs bearing quotes from her books and columns. Ron Warman Jr. dressed up in a clown suit to express his dislike of Coulter.

"I think she's a clown or a witch," the 45-year-old Lawrence man said.

Some of the protesters, such as Robert Richardson, said they were members of the Society of Open-Minded Atheists and Agnostics.

"We're just not open-minded enough to like Ann Coulter," Richardson, 28, of Lawrence, said.
Others, such as Mollie Devine, 26, said she was a big fan of Coulter.

"I love her," the Lawrence woman said. "She doesn't back down. She's also funnier than the other (conservative) columnists."

Mary Anne Smith, 38, said she welcomed a chance to hear a noted right-wing conservative speak.

"We hear so much of the liberal side in Lawrence," she said. "I'm excited she came here, and this is not a very easy place to come."

John Altevogt, a conservative GOP activist from Wyandotte County, also welcomed Coulter.

"Ann Coulter is logical, rational and an independent thinker," he said. "In essence, everything the left hates in their womenfolk."

Unhappy with controversy

Others said they were displeased with the hecklers, including brothers Richard and Alfred Dyer, who sat in front of a few hecklers they described as acting like children.

"I think they did a disservice by heckling her," Alfred Dyer, 54, Tonganoxie, said.

"She's got a right to be treated in a civilized manner," Richard Dyer, 53, Lawrence, said.

John Hoopes, 46, Lawrence, said the event reminded him of watching the "Jerry Springer Show."

Coulter was paid $25,000 for her appearance, which was paid from the Vickers endowment fund, said Toni Dixon, director of communications for the KU School of Business. State and university money were not used, she said.

[Nbadan]

For all we know this event was as staged as a W press conference. Coulter probably hired the harrasers herself, sagging ratings, but beyond that, that 6 people would take the chance of getting arrested or expelled from school for the privelege of shouting Coulter down says enough.

[knownalien]

Coulter is a hot a-hole. she lost all credibility when she first began forming words.

[exstatic]

"But I notice that all conservatives have to do is talk and those who disagree with them get physical."


"Could 10 of the largest College Republicans start walking up and down the aisles and start removing anyone shouting?" Coulter asked. "Otherwise, this lecture is over."

Care to take a different tack, TPark? Your girl sounds like the one ready to have physical harm done to the hecklers.

[desflood]

Earlham is a liberal arts college of about 1,200 students that is well-known for its peace studies program.
That's an interesting line I took out of the AP story.

[Nbadan]

Looks like a direct hit on Kristol

http://newswire.indymedia.org/newswire/images/2005/03/821396.jpg

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William Kristol, founder of the Project for a New American Century (a leading neo-con think tank) and a key figure in American foreign policy for over 20 years, was hit by what appeared to be a cream pie tonight in Richmond, Indiana. Throughout his speech, given at Earlham College, he defended the "Bush doctrine" of pre-emptive war and state terror and was in the process of comparing current policy challenges to those of the early Cold War when a young man calmly lifted himself onto the stage and quickly walked to the podium, splattering a delicious dish all over the speaker as well as the college's president (collateral damage?).

[desflood]

Yet ANOTHER liberal has a tantrum when things don't go his way...

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/news/story.jsp?id=2005040108470001587449&dt=20050401084700&w=APO&coview=

[mookie2001]

ann coutler is insane
her and sean hannity have said the most outrageous things
they make rush limbaugh look like michael moore

[Solid D]

Pat Buchanan was hit by Salad Dressing by a student at one of his speech Q&A sessions also. I guess our generation has a thing for throwing food.

[Nbadan]

Pat Buchanan was hit by Salad Dressing by a student at one of his speech Q&A sessions also. I guess our generation has a thing for throwing food.

Nice...

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/POLITICS/04/01/buchanan.attacked.ap/vert.buchanan.ap.jpg


Pat Buchanan doused with salad dressing

KALAMAZOO, Michigan (AP) -- Commentator and former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan cut short an appearance after an opponent of his conservative views doused him with salad dressing.

"Stop the bigotry!" the demonstrator shouted as he hurled the liquid Thursday night during the program at Western Michigan University. The incident came just two days after another noted conservative, William Kristol, was struck by a pie during an appearance at a college in Indiana.

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Buchanan's visit had evoked controversy on campus because it fell on the birthday of the late Mexican-American labor leader Cesar Chavez. Buchanan favors tighter controls on immigration.

Kristol, editor of the influential conservative magazine The Weekly Standard and former chief of staff to Vice President Quayle, was splattered by a student during a speech Tuesday at Earlham College in Richmond, Indiana.


CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/04/01/buchanan.attacked.ap/index.html)

[timvp]

For the next presidential election, I'd be for a WWF winner-take-all royal rumble to decide the winner.

It'd be more fair and the winner would have more credibility.

[desflood]

:lmao I can't just see it! Hilary and Condi in the ring in a lingerie match. Oh, I can't breathe... :lmao

[Ocotillo]

Of course Republicans take this physical stuff seriously.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/nation/11270106.htm (Kansas City Star)

Bush supporter pleads guilty in attack on Kerry-backing girlfriend

BY MISSY STODDARD

South Florida Sun-Sentinel


WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. - (KRT) - Steven Soper had his life all mapped out.

The 18-year-old Florida man had been accepted into the Army and planned to enlist after graduating this spring from high school.

But the plan came apart in late October when he attacked his girlfriend after learning she planned to vote for Sen. John Kerry in the presidential election.

Soper pleaded guilty Wednesday to false imprisonment, aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, battery and resisting arrest without violence.

Circuit Judge Jorge Labarga sentenced Soper to 90 days in jail followed by five years of probation and 100 hours of community service.

The judge ordered Soper to write a letter of apology to 18-year-old Stacey Silveira, whom he dated for two years, according to Silveira. Soper is also required to complete a batterers' intervention program, undergo psychological and substance abuse evaluations and complete any recommended treatment.

Silveira's neighbor west of Boynton Beach, Fla., called 911 on Oct. 26 after seeing Soper carrying Silveira as she screamed "no, no, no," Assistant State Attorney Tim Beckwith said. Soper pointed a knife at Silveira and threatened to kill her, he added. A deputy found evidence of a struggle inside the home, including a broken pot.

Soper dragged Silveira, kicking and screaming, into her house before throwing her to the floor and spitting on her, police reports said. Soper reportedly bit Silveira and then placed a knife in her hand and told her to kill him, because a vote for Kerry would mean he would die anyway.

The couple's relationship had been volatile at times, defense attorney Michael Salnick said, but it became violent when Soper learned of his girlfriend's decision to support Kerry.

"Many relatives of Steven's have served in the armed forces ... and he had every intention of going to other parts of the world to defend the United States," Salnick said.

Soper could request early termination of his probation if he successfully completes all the requirements, but Salnick said he would not consider doing so until Soper has finished at least half of the probation - 2 1/2 years.

Soper has since dropped out of high school and is pursuing his general equivalency diploma, Salnick said. He still hopes to one day serve in the military.

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[Useruser666]

This thread should be in the club since it has absolutely nothing to do with politics.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

For all we know this event was as staged as a W press conference.

For all we know you're still a dumbass Dan, and we'd be right.

THis is what it's come to for the left? Throwing pies and interrupting speeches? I guess seeings you guys have no campaign platform, aren't winning in Iraq, aren't winning in Palestine, aren't winning in the former Soviet republics, pies and taunts are all that you have left.

[mookie2001]

aggie are you familiar with some of the things that have come out of ann coulters mouth

anyway shes glad she got hit with a pie that way everyone can just say how off the deep end the "left" is

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Look, some things Anne says I agree with, some things I don't. Generally I think she's over the top outrageous, but then again I just chalk her up as the right's answer to people like Soros and Michael Moore *shrugs*

I tend to not look at the extreme outliers of either party (unless I need a good laugh.. case in point NBADan every time he opens his mouth).

Just because Coulter is outspoken doesn't mean my original comments regarding the status of the Democratic party aren't valid.

They wanted Bush to fail in Iraq, that's not going their way. They want the Israel-Palestine situation to blow up in Bush's face. They want Syria to kick the hell out of the Lebanese, because it would show Bush's plans of democratization of the Middle East are a failure.

I could go on and on. The point is, the left has no platform other than blame everyone else (lawsuits) and root for Bush to fail. It's sad for the party, and it's sad for American politics (our country is stronger with diverse but reasonable viewpoints), but it is the reality of the Democratic party today.

[mookie2001]

it's odd that shes a fox news contributer along with newt gingrich
fair AND balanced

[Nbadan]

AlPae'da strikes again...


A conservative activist who criticizes what he calls the leftist domination of college campuses was struck with a pie Wednesday night at Butler University.

David Horowitz, president of the Center for the Study of Popular Culture, had just started a lecture at Butler when he was hit.

Horowitz's supporters followed the assailants out of the hall, and confronted them with what a witness called "pushing and shoving." However, the attackers got away.

"There's a wave of violence on college campuses, committed by what I'd call fascists opposing conservatives," Horowitz said. "It's one step from that to injury."

Indystar (http://www.indystar.com/articles/8/235034-8678-102.html)
http://www.indystar.com/images/pics2/image-235034-1250.jpg

Horowitz is a major asshole.