View Full Version : Jones considering bringing Pacman Jones back
CubanMustGo
06-08-2009, 08:44 AM
Who's next, TO??
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4240457
Is there going to be a Adam "Pacman" Jones sequel in Dallas? According to a published report, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones recently said he's considering bringing the controversial cornerback back, although he calls it a long shot.
Reached by the Fort Worth Star-Telegram after the George Strait concert than opened the new Cowboys stadium on Saturday night, Jones asked the reporter: "Would you beat me up too bad if I brought back Adam?"
The Cowboys released Pacman Jones in February. Jones was suspended for six games by the NFL after an alcohol-related scuffle in October with a team-provided bodyguard at a Dallas hotel.
In the Star-Telegram report, Jones said he now blames the fight on the bodyguard. He also reportedly said that he's not worried about any off-the-field issues with Pacman Jones.
The cornerback came to Dallas after being suspended for the entire 2007 season following multiple off-field incidents while with the Tennessee Titans. The Cowboys acquired him in a trade during the draft in April, and commissioner Roger Goodell cleared him to play at the end of the preseason.
Expected to give the Cowboys a boost on defense and special teams, Jones had 31 tackles and no interceptions in his nine games (six starts). He averaged only 4.5 yards on his 21 punt returns, with a long of 18 yards.
However, in the Star-Telegram report, Jones said that Pacman Jones graded out as the Cowboys' best cornerback.
Before coming to Dallas, Jones was arrested six times and involved in 12 instances requiring police intervention after Tennessee drafted him in the first round in 2005.
The Cowboys traded for him anyway, despite the 2007 suspension.
samikeyp
06-08-2009, 08:48 AM
:bang :bang :bang
Fine, bring him back Jerry. You deserve what you get.
JudynTX
06-08-2009, 08:49 AM
YES! Do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jerry has gone off the deep end, are we gonna bring TO back in the middle of the season too?
ATRAIN
06-08-2009, 09:07 AM
Who's next, TO??
I heard on ESPN that Jones already misses TO.
manufan10
06-08-2009, 09:27 AM
They're not too deep at the CB position. They traded away their starting CB to the Lions, and it left them with 2 really unproven guys to be the starters. It would help give them depth at the CB position, so football wise it would be a smart move. However, personality wise, it goes against everything that the Cowboys have said they were doing this year. If they're going to bring in Pacman, they never should have let go of TO.
samikeyp
06-08-2009, 09:33 AM
I heard on ESPN that Jones already misses TO.
He is probably the only one at Valley Ranch. :lol
They traded away their starting CB to the Lions, and it left them with 2 really unproven guys to be the starters. It would help give them depth at the CB position, so football wise it would be a smart move. However, personality wise, it goes against everything that the Cowboys have said they were doing this year. If they're going to bring in Pacman, they never should have let go of TO.
Its not a smart football move if he can't contribute because he is in trouble again. Hell, when he was on the field he didn't do much except run east-west on punt returns.
Personality-wise, I agree.
Whisky Dog
06-08-2009, 09:55 AM
I think Jones is just posturing, giving the star-telegram something to write about to keep Cowboy fans and media personnel talking and thinking Cowboys during the offseason. The way Jerry sees it he doesn't have to advertise to get his brand on the minds of the consumers - all he has to do is make a comment like this and ESPN is pumping Cowboys into millions of homes almost instantly.
My second thought is if Pacman graded out as the best CB on the team, how f'd up is the Cowboys player grading system?
samikeyp
06-08-2009, 09:57 AM
I think Jones is just posturing, giving the star-telegram something to write about to keep Cowboy fans and media personnel talking and thinking Cowboys during the offseason. The way Jerry sees it he doesn't have to advertise to get his brand on the minds of the consumers - all he has to do is make a comment like this and ESPN is pumping Cowboys into millions of homes almost instantly.
And he would be correct.
My second thought is if Pacman graded out as the best CB on the team, how f'd up is the Cowboys player grading system?
No shit.
manufan10
06-08-2009, 10:06 AM
Its not a smart football move if he can't contribute because he is in trouble again. Hell, when he was on the field he didn't do much except run east-west on punt returns.
Personality-wise, I agree.
That's true. As of right now though, he is able to contribute. If he gets into trouble, then yes it would be a bad football move. I agree with the punts, but when you lack serious depth at the CB position, then it's something to consider. I think Whisky Dog is correct. I think Jerry is just doing this to keep the Cowboys in the news.
dirk4mvp
06-08-2009, 10:27 AM
lol cowboys
samikeyp
06-08-2009, 10:35 AM
That's true. As of right now though, he is able to contribute. If he gets into trouble, then yes it would be a bad football move. I agree with the punts, but when you lack serious depth at the CB position, then it's something to consider. I think Whisky Dog is correct. I think Jerry is just doing this to keep the Cowboys in the news.
Let's hope so.
DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-08-2009, 11:00 AM
Newman is extremely overrated to begin with they really do need to add depth at the position.
IronMexican
06-08-2009, 12:11 PM
Pacman isn't very good, and he's an off the field issue.
manufan10
06-08-2009, 01:53 PM
Newman is extremely overrated to begin with they really do need to add depth at the position.
I disagree. I think Newman is extremely underrated. Injuries have bothered him the last couple of seasons, but I think he is still a valuable CB. Last season wasn't a very good one, and statistics don't really show the job he does. He rarely gets thrown to so the interceptions don't show up in the stats. He does a great job on his guy for the majority of the time.
Dr. Gonzo
06-08-2009, 02:16 PM
lol newman being underrated
CubanMustGo
06-08-2009, 05:40 PM
JJ backs off:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4240457
There won't be an Adam "Pacman" Jones sequel in Dallas.
Through team spokesman Rich Dalrymple, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones shot down a report that he was considering bringing the controversial cornerback back to the team, saying in a statement: "I have no plans to bring Adam back."
Jerry Jones was reacting to a Fort Worth Star-Telegram report where he was quoted as saying that he was mulling bringing Pacman Jones back to the team.
Reached by the Star-Telegram after the George Strait concert that opened the new Cowboys stadium on Saturday night, Jones asked the reporter: "Would you beat me up too bad if I brought back Adam?"
The Cowboys released Pacman Jones in February. Jones was suspended for six games by the NFL after an alcohol-related scuffle in October with a team-provided bodyguard at a Dallas hotel.
In the Star-Telegram report, Jones said he now blames the fight on the bodyguard. He also reportedly said that he's not worried about any off-the-field issues with Pacman Jones.
The cornerback came to Dallas after being suspended for the entire 2007 season following multiple off-field incidents while with the Tennessee Titans. The Cowboys acquired him in a trade during the draft in April, and commissioner Roger Goodell cleared him to play at the end of the preseason.
Expected to give the Cowboys a boost on defense and special teams, Jones had 31 tackles and no interceptions in his nine games (six starts). He averaged only 4.5 yards on his 21 punt returns, with a long of 18 yards.
However, in the Star-Telegram report, Jones said that Pacman Jones graded out as the Cowboys' best cornerback.
Before coming to Dallas, Jones was arrested six times and involved in 12 instances requiring police intervention after Tennessee drafted him in the first round in 2005.
The Cowboys traded for him anyway, despite the 2007 suspension.
Obstructed_View
06-08-2009, 07:07 PM
Surely that was a joke. It certainly reads that way. I can't imagine it happening even if Pacman wasn't by far the worst player on a terrible secondary last year.
SouthTexasRancher
06-08-2009, 10:58 PM
Jerry's gigantic ego just won't allow him to go more than 24 hrs. without calling attention to himself. Well Jerry, it's your money, do as you damn well please, but if you never win another Super Bowl you'll know who to blame!!!
DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-09-2009, 12:59 AM
I disagree. I think Newman is extremely underrated.
There's not a single underrated player on Dallas. Everyone talks about how talented, deep, amazing that team is, the truth is Dallas simply isn't that talented!
If every player on Dallas deserved the hype they got Dallas would go 19-0.
samikeyp
06-09-2009, 07:59 AM
There's not a single underrated player on Dallas. Everyone talks about how talented, deep, amazing that team is, the truth is Dallas simply isn't that talented!
If every player on Dallas deserved the hype they got Dallas would go 19-0.
Dallas is very talented and proved that two seasons ago going 13-3 and then in the first part of last season. That is what is frustrating. The team as a whole underachieves and that starts with the Head Coach.
manufan10
06-09-2009, 08:41 AM
There's not a single underrated player on Dallas. Everyone talks about how talented, deep, amazing that team is, the truth is Dallas simply isn't that talented!
If every player on Dallas deserved the hype they got Dallas would go 19-0.
I disagree. Newman doesn't get hyped at all. I also disagree with the notion that Dallas isn't very talented. Take off the hate filled glasses and look with an objective view. They have talent, they've just underachieved big time.
Dr. Gonzo
06-09-2009, 09:51 AM
I disagree. Newman doesn't get hyped at all. I also disagree with the notion that Dallas isn't very talented. Take off the hate filled glasses and look with an objective view. They have talent, they've just underachieved big time.
I find it amusing that you tell someone to be objective. You are one of the biggest blind homers on these forums.
manufan10
06-09-2009, 10:36 AM
IRVING, Texas - Maybe it was just the euphoria involved in the grand opening of a brand new $1.15 billion stadium. Whatever the case, Jerry Jones apparently wants to take back his Adam "Pacman" Jones musings.
After reportedly leaving the door open for the troubled cornerback's return following Saturday night's George Strait concert at Cowboys Stadium, Jerry Jones said through a team spokesman on Monday "I have no plans to bring Adam back." Warrick Robinson, the cornerback's agent, also said he hadn't heard from the team.
It was rather curious that Jerry Jones would admit he's considering re-signing the free agent cornerback, whom the Cowboys officially released back on Feb. 9. Much of the work the team has done this off-season has been to remove locker room distractions, and make way for the team's promising younger players. As of last Thursday's Organized Team Activities practice, the Cowboys owner and general manager seemed pretty confident about the young cornerbacks on his team, raving about the likes of Orlando Scandrick, Mike Jenkins and Alan Ball. Up in his suite following the inaugural event at the new stadium, though, Jerry Jones apparently was wondering aloud if there was a way to strengthen the position.
"Would you beat me up too bad if I brought back Adam?" the Cowboys owner reportedly asked a writer from the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, saying he was considering re-signing the oft-troubled 25-year-old cornerback, though acknowledging such a move was a long shot. Jerry Jones said the former Tennessee Titans first-round pick had graded out best among the Cowboys cornerbacks in his nine games last season.
Shortly after being released, Adam Jones made it known he expected to play in 2009, and said he believed he could even be back with the Cowboys. Though he hasn't been a member of the team, the cornerback hasn't been a stranger, either. He was seen chatting with secondary coach Dave Campo at the NFL Scouting Combine in February, and has visited the club's Valley Ranch headquarters. While Robinson said he has received interest from a few places around the league, Adam Jones hasn't visited any teams this off-season, though he has donned a uniform for Spike TV's Pros vs. Joes, sparking a physical confrontation with a contestant.
The Cowboys acquired Adam Jones in a trade just before last April's NFL Draft, and signed him to a low-risk contract. Knowing they couldn't trust the ex-West Virginia star, they spent two draft picks, including a first-rounder, on cornerbacks that year. As it turned out, their premonition about Adam Jones was correct. After becoming a starter during the early part of the season, he was suspended six games for an October altercation with his team-supplied body guard in a hotel bathroom.
Even if coaches did believe Adam Jones played the best of all the cornerbacks last season, he wasn't a difference-maker, finishing the season without an interception. He was expected to be a threat on punt returns as well, but averaged just 4.5 yards per attempt. In January, the Cowboys announced they would release Jones, soon after being notified of a ESPN report about his alleged involvement in a shooting outside an Atlanta nightclub while he was suspended in 2007. No legal consequences have resulted from the report, though Jones has had his share of those, with six arrests since coming into the league in 2005.
Given his unreliable nature, Adam Jones arguably slowed the progress of the team's young corners last season.
"That was a difficult situation, obviously, when you're not sure what your lineup is going to be from week to week," secondary coach Dave Campo said after an OTA practice last Thursday. While the fifth-rounder Scandrick held the same job on the nickel all season long, Jenkins' playing time was more sporadic because he often sat behind Adam Jones.
"Sometime you come in as a first-round rookie, you come in and you're not quite sure what to expect," Campo said. "Pacman being in and out, (Jenkins) being in and out, that's a little tough on a guy."
While Scandrick was the more impressive of the two during their first NFL season, the Cowboys have high hopes for both. After cutting Adam Jones they traded Anthony Henry to Detroit, clearing a path for one of the second-year corners to emerge as a starter opposite Terence Newman. Both Scandrick and Jenkins will receive a lot of playing time no matter who wins the job, but the battle has already begun.
Coaches say both players have improved over the off-season. Both are gifted with plenty of athleticism for the position, but in their first season Scandrick just seemed to be the more comfortable of the two.
"Orlando Scandrick is a real natural player," said Wade Phillips. "He has a great feel for what's going on. He came off the field during the game and said, 'Hey, they are doing this. They are running this route. They are trying to get me to do this.' Those kinds of things some players don't naturally have; he has."
Jenkins has earned his share of praise as well.
"Everything that I'm seeing from his work in the off-season . . . I think that will translate into more of a role on the team," Jerry Jones said. "He continues to improve. Every time you look up, he's making plays. He should make a real step forward (to) where our expectations were when we drafted him in the first round."
If the latest indications are correct, and the Cowboys roll into training camp with their cornerback situation as is, it will be one of the most intriguing positions to watch this summer.
"I think it's going to be a battle because they're both very competitive and they're good young players," Campo said. "I think Mike or Scandrick are going to accept whatever role is done with them, and we don't know exactly what that is right now, but it's going to be a battle."
At least that much is certain.
http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/news.cfm?id=C202BFB8-E9F9-C672-655B6DD3BA6DF8FC
manufan10
06-09-2009, 10:41 AM
I find it amusing that you tell someone to be objective. You are one of the biggest blind homers on these forums.
:sleep
Yes, I'm the biggest blind homer on these forums. :rolleyes Give me a break. The Cowboys do have a lot of talent. Only someone who isn't being objective or is blinded by hatred can't see. You only have contempt and hatred for the Cowboys. Every post or thread that has been about the Cowboys you spew negative bullshit. I haven't posted nearly enough on the NFL forum for you to even suggest that I'm a blind homer. Get over your hatred, it's blinding YOU!
Dr. Gonzo
06-09-2009, 10:48 AM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3388038&postcount=29
Blind. Homer.
manufan10
06-09-2009, 10:51 AM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3388038&postcount=29
Blind. Homer.
That's called sarcasm. It's hard to see when it's written.
manufan10
06-09-2009, 10:56 AM
I also said this:
Just wait until this year, which is what the poll is talking about. Felix is going to be featured more in the passing offense.
I said that because Felix IS going to be featured more in the passing game this year. The Cowboys coaching staff is going to try to get the ball in his hands more. So I threw it out there. Bad joke, bad sarcasm. Look back and see that I posted that Fitz/Boldin would be the best receiving tandem. If you even want to look at the poll, I voted for Fitz/Boldin.
DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-09-2009, 02:52 PM
If Dallas was so fuckin talented and loaded they would have made the playoffs.
samikeyp
06-09-2009, 03:00 PM
If Dallas was so fuckin talented and loaded they would have made the playoffs.
Not if they lack focus and discipline which they did last season. They had basically the same team in 07 and went 13-3. Last year they started off strong but when adversity hit, their coaching staff lost their nuts and the players had no direction. That needs to change this year but I am not holding my breath, that along with TO gone does not forebode well.
DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-09-2009, 05:05 PM
Not if they lack focus and discipline which they did last season. They had basically the same team in 07 and went 13-3.
And then didn't win a single playoff game.
Tony Romo = NFL T-Mac
samikeyp
06-09-2009, 09:12 PM
And then didn't win a single playoff game.
Exactly, because of the reasons I listed.
manufan10
06-09-2009, 10:01 PM
And then didn't win a single playoff game.
Tony Romo = NFL T-Mac
How many playoff games did Peyton Manning win early in his career. Seriously, this guy has only had 2 1/2 seasons as a starter, and he's already accomplished some great things. Playoff wins will come in time.
Dr. Gonzo
06-10-2009, 08:32 AM
lol great things
What "great" things has he accomplished?
manufan10
06-10-2009, 08:52 AM
lol great things
What "great" things has he accomplished?
He's already broken several team records. He's made it to the Pro Bowl in 2 of the 3 seasons he's been a starter. He probably would have made it last year if he didn't suffer that broken pinkie and miss three weeks. Or if he hadn't laid an egg against the Eagles, but then that's on the whole team. There's still more for him to do, but he has the ability to do so. Yes he still has a lot to prove, like have a winning record in December or win a playoff game. However, other QB's have started off not winning a playoff game and then gone on to get that monkey off their back. Romo has the opportunity to do the same thing.
Dr. Gonzo
06-10-2009, 08:58 AM
I would say those are things a "good" QB does. Those aren't "great" things.
"Great" things are winning playoffs games and Super Bowls.
manufan10
06-10-2009, 09:14 AM
I would say those are things a "good" QB does. Those aren't "great" things.
"Great" things are winning playoffs games and Super Bowls.
I can agree with that.
DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-10-2009, 09:14 AM
lol couldn't take his team to the playoffs
lol couldn't handle the snap
lol choked big time against the Giants
lol fumble
lol best QB in the NFL without a playoff win
lol Tracy McGrady's best friend
lol Tony Romo
manufan10
06-10-2009, 09:15 AM
lol suns
manufan10
06-10-2009, 09:30 AM
Back to the subject at hand, I don't think that Pacman is going to be a Cowboy anytime soon. Maybe, if the Cowboys coaching staff doesn't like what they see in training camp, they will bring him in. As of right now, I don't see the Cowboys making the move. It goes against everything the Cowboys have tried to do this summer.
mardigan
06-10-2009, 11:20 AM
Cowboys don't need him. They have plenty of db's to throw out there. I would like to see what the rookies they drafted can do, and guys like Ball and Brown are definitely better than Pac.
DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-10-2009, 11:32 AM
lol suns
lol nothing to do with the thread
lol at least I know the Suns currently suck
lol you actually think Romo is good
lol he'll never win a superbowl
lol Tracy McGrady
lol Tony Romo
mardigan
06-10-2009, 11:48 AM
lol nothing to do with the thread
lol at least I know the Suns currently suck
lol you actually think Romo is good
lol he'll never win a superbowl
lol Tracy McGrady
lol Tony Romo
Dude, I'm not saying Romo is the best qb in the league or anything, but name me a bad qb who has thrown 62 td's in two seasons. Lots of good players and qb's don't win Superbowls, so its not like that is really and insult either. Romo is good, and only someone hellbent on hating the guy or the team would say otherwise.
DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-10-2009, 11:49 AM
Lots of good players and qb's don't win Superbowls
No but they win playoff games.
Being able to run up the score and inflate regular season stats doesn't matter. In close games lil Romeo falls apart.
samikeyp
06-10-2009, 11:51 AM
No but they win playoff games.
Being able to run up the score and inflate regular season stats doesn't matter. In close games lil Romeo falls apart.
The collapses were not just Romo. These failures have been team failures.
DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-10-2009, 11:53 AM
The collapses were not just Romo. These failures have been team failures.
lol your saying that Pittsburg game or Arizona game wasn't Romo's fault?
Did the team fumble the snap again Seattle two years ago?
mardigan
06-10-2009, 11:53 AM
No but they win playoff games.
Being able to run up the score and inflate regular season stats doesn't matter. In close games lil Romeo falls apart.
He'll win a couple eventually. I've talked my fair shit about Romo for being erratic and being a shitty leader, but he does have the tools. To me it's just going to be a waiting game to see when they get the right roster and coaching staff to all click and be on the same page. To me, this is his put up or shut up year.
mardigan
06-10-2009, 11:56 AM
Did the team fumble the snap again Seattle two years ago?
No but Terry Glenn fumbled away a touchdown in the 4th quarter that would have sealed the game. Just like Crayton dropping a game changing td pass against the Giants that would have probably sealed the game. It's on everyone not just him.
DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-10-2009, 11:58 AM
No but Terry Glenn fumbled away a touchdown in the 4th quarter that would have sealed the game. Just like Crayton dropping a game changing td pass against the Giants that would have probably sealed the game. It's on everyone not just him.
lol whatever I love watching Dallas lose therefore I love Romo apologists.
samikeyp
06-10-2009, 12:02 PM
lol your saying that Pittsburg game or Arizona game wasn't Romo's fault?
Did the team fumble the snap again Seattle two years ago?
I am saying that not all the Cowboys failures over the last three years are solely his fault.
If the Cowboys as a team had executed better in each of those games, it would not have come down to those individual plays. The fact that they did underlines that the Cowboys have deeper issues than just TO (while he was there) and Romo.
samikeyp
06-10-2009, 12:05 PM
lol whatever I love watching Dallas lose therefore I love Romo apologists.
Yes but you are incapable of being objective. Romo could win MVP of the league, throw 22-23 for 5 TD's and 350yds in the Super Bowl and win and you would point out the one missed through.
Why do you care about the Cowboys so much? If you hate them, which is ridculous to begin with, why focus on them? Why not focus on your team?
DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-10-2009, 12:05 PM
If their QB was a legitimate leader there wouldn't be so many team execution problems.
DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-10-2009, 12:07 PM
Why do you care about the Cowboys so much?
Their large bandwagon fan base in Phoenix is annoying. I also hate teams that get hype they don't deserve, Dallas simply isn't that good/talented and doesn't deserve this much hype.
samikeyp
06-10-2009, 12:10 PM
If their QB was a legitimate leader there wouldn't be so many team execution problems.
He might be one but we don't know that he is not. I think he gives that impression because he never looks pissed when bad things happen. If you do that, and you win, you are "cool under pressure". We don't see him behind closed doors with his team. My biggest problem with him is his desicion making. The coaching staff needs to take a good chunk of that blame for the execution.
Bottom line is that while he has done some good things, QB's are measured on big wins especially those in the post season.
DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-10-2009, 12:12 PM
Bottom line is that while he has done some good things, QB's are measured on big wins especially those in the post season.
Agreed.
samikeyp
06-10-2009, 12:14 PM
Their large bandwagon fan base in Phoenix is annoying.
That grew there before the Cards arrive but I could see that. I am a fan of the Cowboys and even I dislike the bandwagoners.
Dallas simply isn't that good/talented and doesn't deserve this much hype.
While I disagree about the talent, don't blame Dallas for the hype, blame ESPN, etc. They are the ones that follow the Cowboys around like puppy dogs.
DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-10-2009, 12:26 PM
That grew there before the Cards arrive but I could see that. I am a fan of the Cowboys and even I dislike the bandwagoners.
Maybe it did with some but I highly doubt the large group of Mexican bandwagon fans that haven't even been in this country for a decade are Cowboy fans simply cause they were in Arizona before the Cardinals were.
samikeyp
06-10-2009, 01:31 PM
The Cowboys are also very popular in Mexico.
DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-10-2009, 01:34 PM
The Cowboys are also very popular in Mexico.
See that's what I don't like......why?
samikeyp
06-10-2009, 01:49 PM
See that's what I don't like......why?
Just a theory but the Cowboys are big in South Texas and were the only team for years between Dallas and LA. They market to the hispanic community in the Southwest and that carries across the border.
People have the right to root for who they want to.
manufan10
06-10-2009, 01:52 PM
Just a theory but the Cowboys are big in South Texas and were the only team for years between Dallas and LA. They market to the hispanic community in the Southwest and that carries across the border.
People have the right to root for who they want to.
I think it might also be due to the fact that in the early 90's they played preseason games in Mexico City.
samikeyp
06-10-2009, 01:54 PM
I think it might also be due to the fact that in the early 90's they played preseason games in Mexico City.
That helped. I just remember the one in Mexico City. Jones knew he had fans down there so he knew the game would be a sellout and it was. It had like 100,000 people.
EDIT:
There have been 4 between 94 and 01.
manufan10
06-10-2009, 01:57 PM
No but they win playoff games.
Being able to run up the score and inflate regular season stats doesn't matter. In close games lil Romeo falls apart.
I've seen close games where he doesn't fall apart. He doesn't fall apart in ALL close games. You can't win every single close game. Like I mentioned earlier, Peyton Manning had his struggles early on in his career. People forget that Romo has only been a starter for 2 1/2 years. Give him time to mature and develop more. I think he'll win a few playoff games before his career is over. A Super Bowl is not out of the question, but it will take some work. Romo is talented, and to think otherwise is being blind by your hatred for the Cowboys. I have no problems saying teams that I hate have talent, which is why I find it funny that the Cowboys haters hate the Cowboys so much that they think they're "not talented."
manufan10
06-10-2009, 02:00 PM
That helped. I just remember the one in Mexico City. Jones knew he had fans down there so he knew the game would be a sellout and it was. It had like 100,000 people.
Maybe it was just one, but the fact that they did it probably helped. If I'm not mistaken, it was right after one of the Super Bowl wins. It was in 1994:
August 15, 1994
The Dallas Cowboys play the Houston Oilers at Azteca Stadium in Mexico City tonight before what is expected to be the largest crowd ever to see an NFL game.Some 108,000 tickets have been sold for the game.
http://articles.latimes.com/1994-08-15/sports/sp-27341_1_dallas-cowboys
samikeyp
06-10-2009, 02:09 PM
No you were right, they have played there 4 times.
DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-10-2009, 02:11 PM
I think it might also be due to the fact that in the early 90's they played preseason games in Mexico City.
Well thanks for that detail.
Cowboyhater
06-10-2009, 02:51 PM
I find it amusing that you tell someone to be objective. You are one of the biggest blind homers on these forums.
Manufan is the biggest cowboy homer to grace these boards in a while.
manufan10
06-10-2009, 03:01 PM
Manufan is the biggest cowboy homer to grace these boards in a while.
Yup. I go around spewing off about how great the Cowboys in every single thread. I've said the Cowboys have the greatest talent in the NFL. The Cowboys are going to win back to back to back Super Bowls. Give me a break. I'm a Cowboys fan, but I'm still objective. I know that the Cowboys still have a lot to prove, and right now aren't the best team in football, that honor goes to the Steelers. They're the champions.
This is why owners need to just be owners and hire football people to make football decisions. It's cool to own a team and be involved with your players and personnel... I'd be wary of an owner who wasn't. But there's a line between owner and coach and Jerry Jones has been about five hundred miles past that line since he's owned the Cowboys.
jack sommerset
06-10-2009, 04:24 PM
Cowboys should bring the guy back. They need him. Will not hurt one single bit. If he sucks he is gone. It did not hurt last year when he was not there. They did not count on him so when they lost him all was fine. Do it again I say.
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