Town grads allowed 10 drinks at party

[JudynTX]

:wow


As high school graduation approaches, some people are asking what's safe about "safe grad" parties.

"Having 10 drinks in one evening would not be safe for many," said Colleen Dell, research chair in substance abuse in the sociology department at the University of Saskatchewan.

Next weekend, some parents of Lanigan Central High School graduates will host a "safe grad" party at an undisclosed location. Graduates planning to attend the Saturday night drinking party had to submit a form signed by their parents in advance of the party. The graduates had to pre-order and pre-pay for the alcohol they'll drink during the 9 p.m. to 2 a.m. party. Graduates and their guests, who have to be in Grade 10 or higher, will be allowed up to 10 drinks, including beer, vodka, rum and rye.

"That boggles the mind," said Diane Fontaine, president of the Saskatoon and area Mothers Against Drunk Driving. "It's pretty scary."

Having that many alcoholic drinks at one time is considered binge drinking, says Dell, who added the definition of binge drinking is five or more drinks.

"The idea of safe grad is around drinking and driving and keeping people alive," she said.

"Is that really the goal we want for our kids -- is to simply keep them alive?"

She worries the party will be the start of a drinking pattern that continues through the summer. The dangers of binge drinking include alcohol poisoning, violence and unprotected sex.

Coralea MacDonald, whose daughter will not be attending the party even though she is graduating, was surprised to learn of the "safe grad."

"It's illegal for anyone under 19 to drink alcohol," she said. "How can we do something illegal legally?"

Police are aware that "safe grad" parties happen in communities throughout Saskatchewan.

"The model that I'm referring to talks about where there is a parent or guardian on-site and they are making a decision, as the parent or guardian, for their child, in terms of whether or not they are going to provide them alcoholic beverages at that specific time, in that specific location, at a private place," explained RCMP Sgt. Brian Jones.

"It is an arrangement between private property owners and parents and guardians of those people in attendance. It's a private function on private land. Whether it's a good idea or not is not for us to decide," he said.

Allowing the graduates to drink large quantities of alcohol, even if they aren't driving, sets a bad example, says Fontaine, who adds MADD promotes drinking responsibly, which means adults drinking moderate amounts and then not driving.

"We don't like 'safe grads' because there is still drinking and it encourages underage drinking," said Fontaine.

MacDonald is disappointed parents are organizing the drinking party.

"As adults, I don't think we should say, 'Go for it and we'll watch you get drunk.'

"We're not trying to ruin everyone's fun," said MacDonald, who wishes the teenagers could celebrate their graduation without having to drink alcohol.

Officially, Lanigan graduates will celebrate with a ceremony and dinner on June 12, the day before the "safe grad." The school staff members are not involved in the "safe grad," says Ken Sogge, communications director for Horizon school division.

"They are illegal," he said in an interview.

"If parents choose that that's how they are going to celebrate the graduation of their child or their student, there's really nothing anybody can do about it."

One of the parents involved in the "safe grad" had no comment when contacted by The StarPhoenix and said none of the parent organizers wanted to be interviewed about the party.

http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/Town+grads+allowed+drinks+party/1669392/story.html

[ElBorracho]

"Safe Grad" my drunk ass.

[SpursStalker]

Only 10 ....

:lol

[samikeyp]

Whatever happened to the days of you graduate, you spend some time with the family, get money from the relatives then go out and get shitfaced?

:)

[sam1617]

Well, assuming that the parents are paying attention its safer than 10 drinks without any supervision.... And 10 drinks over a 4 hour time period isn't terrible... 10 drinks over an hour, thats pretty danged dangerous.

[Torso]

Well, assuming that the parents are paying attention its safer than 10 drinks without any supervision.... And 10 drinks over a 4 hour time period isn't terrible... 10 drinks over an hour, thats pretty danged dangerous.

Parents just can't do things like that!

Will they be passing out condoms too and limit it to one booty call?

[JudynTX]

Whatever happened to the days of you graduate, you spend some time with the family, get money from the relatives then go out and get shitfaced?

:)

I saw my nephew graduate Friday night, and there was alot of whispering going on like "Where's the party"? :lol

[sam1617]

Parents just can't do things like that!

Will they be passing out condoms too and limit it to one booty call?

And if they do? Parents can do what they want like that, assuming they don't endanger any kids. Its not like they are setting a 10 drink minimum. And don't tell me that just having the party is endangering their kids, because its not. Something like this can be executed in a careful and safe way, that allows the kids to have fun. It can also go wrong, but chances are that it will be way safer then the kids just going and getting wasted on their own (which speaking from experience, will happen).

[Torso]

And if they do? Parents can do what they want like that, assuming they don't endanger any kids. Its not like they are setting a 10 drink minimum. And don't tell me that just having the party is endangering their kids, because its not. Something like this can be executed in a careful and safe way, that allows the kids to have fun. It can also go wrong, but chances are that it will be way safer then the kids just going and getting wasted on their own (which speaking from experience, will happen).

My bad. Our daycare center had a parent supervised trip to the beach for our end of the year celebration.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/lomis/drunk-kids.jpg
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[Sec24Row7]

:

"We're not trying to ruin everyone's fun," said MacDonald, who wishes the teenagers could celebrate their graduation without having to drink alcohol.


http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/Town+grads+allowed+drinks+party/1669392/story.html

What a douchebag

[Richard Cranium]

Are there any "dry" HS graduation parties?

[METALMiKE]

Are there any "dry" HS graduation parties?

Probably the ones that graduate from Christian schools.:rollin

[JudynTX]

Probably the ones that graduate from Christian schools.:rollin

Pffft, you'd be surprised. Those are the quiet "wild ones". :lol

[Sec24Row7]

Pffft, you'd be surprised. Those are the quiet "wild ones". :lol

Heh... yeah... its fun to get daddy's little pen raised child out for a night on the town.

[Richard Cranium]

Pffft, you'd be surprised. Those are the quiet "wild ones". :lol

Yup.

[JudynTX]

Heh... yeah... its fun to get daddy's little pen raised child out for a night on the town.


Yup.

:angel Not that I would know anything about that. :lol

[David Bowie]

That's the most horrible idea I've ever heard of. After 6 drinks (sometimes less), I'm usually shitfaced, falling down, etc. The few times I've had 10 drinks in one night, I threw up all morning and had a hangover for half the day. And I am 24 years old (female). Some of these kids have never drank before, some of them may be taking medication that doesn't mix with alcohol, etc. The 10 drink rule must have been made up by an alcoholic who needs 20 drinks to feel buzzed.

[JoeChalupa]

I sure wouldn't want my daughter to attend.

[jman3000]

it's a good idea.

[JoeChalupa]

I understand the reasoning for it but I would never hold a party like that. No way.

[Evil Angel]

I remember the good ole 18 was legal days and didn't have to worry about this shit!

[Dark Gable]

I'd put a 40 ouncer limit.

[ploto]

I do not think it is legal for anyone other than that child's parent to distribute alcohol to a minor- with or without a permission slip. It sounds more to me like someone is making money off of it.

[jman3000]

I'd much rather have my hypothetical child in a controlled environment at a location of my knowing, and coming home at a prescheduled time, than having them lie to me about going over to a friend's house for cake and ice cream while they're really getting drunk and getting finger fucked in a bathroom.

I'm assuming this "party" will be supervised by competent adults, which would make it all the more appealing to me.

[JoeChalupa]

I'd much rather have my hypothetical child in a controlled environment at a location of my knowing, and coming home at a prescheduled time, than having them lie to me about going over to a friend's house for cake and ice cream while they're really getting drunk and getting finger fucked in a bathroom.

I'm assuming this "party" will be supervised by competent adults, which would make it all the more appealing to me.

Yeah, I hear that argument quite a bit. Same with "I'd rather have my children having sex in my home" rather than getting banged in the back seat. But it is easier when you have a "hypothetical" child.

[jman3000]

I'm just gonna do the exact same things my parents did to me.

I didn't start drinking till I was almost 20 and I didn't start having sex until around the same time.

If I can get in those ballpark figures with my children, I'd consider it a success.

[JoeChalupa]

I'm just gonna do the exact same things my parents did to me.

I didn't start drinking till I was almost 20 and I didn't start having sex until around the same time.

If I can get in those ballpark figures with my children, I'd consider it a success.

Same here. But I started a couple of years earlier.

[Blake]

pffft, you'd be surprised. Those are the quiet "wild ones". :lol

+1

[Blake]

I'd much rather have my hypothetical child in a controlled environment at a location of my knowing, and coming home at a prescheduled time, than having them lie to me about going over to a friend's house for cake and ice cream while they're really getting drunk and getting finger fucked in a bathroom.

I'm assuming this "party" will be supervised by competent adults, which would make it all the more appealing to me.

you're telling the kids that it's not only ok to drink if you are underage, but you are also telling them that it's ok to break the law to have a good time, as long as you can justify it within your own moral code.

[jman3000]

The reason it's against the law in the first place is because a legislature came to the conclusion that people under a certain age aren't responsible enough to partake in alcoholic beverages. Drinking ages have shifted around all the time. It's an arbitrary number to say the very least. The human brain doesn't fully develop until we're 23 or 24 anyway, so why not make the limit until we're 24?

I think the adult supervision of this thing defeats any objection to it... especially since attendees will have had to of had their parent's permission to go in the first place.

[Blake]

The reason it's against the law in the first place is because a legislature came to the conclusion that people under a certain age aren't responsible enough to partake in alcoholic beverages. Drinking ages have shifted around all the time. It's an arbitrary number to say the very least. The human brain doesn't fully develop until we're 23 or 24 anyway, so why not make the limit until we're 24?

you are justifying breaking the law because in your mind, 19 (in this case) in your opinion is an arbitrary number.

You are telling these kids they should be able to drink if they want to.


I think the adult supervision of this thing defeats any objection to it... especially since attendees will have had to of had their parent's permission to go in the first place.

....which is why they have to have it at a secret location....

[jman3000]

I'm telling them it's ok to drink because their parents say it's ok to drink. The kids aren't drinking because I'm saying they should drink because they want to, they're drinking because their parents have told them that they want them to drink. The parents are ultimately the true gatekeeper to this. If you don't think this should be happening, go have a talk with the parents who are enabling it to happen in the first place.

they have to have it at a secret location because they don't want people showing up who aren't supposed to show up. I'm sure the parents know where it's at.

[jman3000]

You're painting this too black and white. This kind of thing is a lot more complicated than you're allowing yourself to think.

[JoeChalupa]

I'm telling them it's ok to drink because their parents say it's ok to drink. The kids aren't drinking because I'm saying they should drink because they want to, they're drinking because their parents have told them that they want them to drink. The parents are ultimately the true gatekeeper to this. If you don't think this should be happening, go have a talk with the parents who are enabling it to happen in the first place.

they have to have it at a secret location because they don't want people showing up who aren't supposed to show up. I'm sure the parents know where it's at.

You mean like Cops showing up when they are not invited? :lol

[jman3000]

Shit... if the town it small enough I wouldn't be surprised if the cops knew about it. I'm not familiar with Saskatchewan college to really know... although it sounds Canadian TBH.

[jman3000]

Canadian beer sucks though.

[JoeChalupa]

Canadian beer sucks though.

Moosehead!!

[JoeChalupa]

I got shit faced with Rolling Rock when I started drinking beer.

[jman3000]

:lol i got drunk at Mouse's from 5 Rolling Rocks. hahahahahaha.

[jman3000]

bleh... he still tries to say that I banged my friend from that night, even though she really was just a friend.

in fact i shouldnt have mentioned it because he might post the pictures now.

[jman3000]

It's not my fault I get touchy feely when I drink :pctoss

[JoeChalupa]

:lol i got drunk at Mouse's from 5 Rolling Rocks. hahahahahaha.

You never know what kind of beer you'll find in Mouse's fridge. :lol

[Blake]

You're painting this too black and white. This kind of thing is a lot more complicated than you're allowing yourself to think.

If you had a kid your thought process would be "well, my kid is going to drink anyway, so it may as well be done in what I assume to be a controlled atmosphere."

I disagree. If you are breaking the law to have a good time, then it's wrong. I'm not sure how much more black and white it gets.


the thing I'm curious about to is if they are forcing the kids to stay the night to sleep it off.

[JudynTX]

:lol i got drunk at Mouse's from 5 Rolling Rocks. hahahahahaha.

Piss beer :lol

[jman3000]

Ok then. Your kid can be breaking the law behind your back and my kid can be breaking the law in a controlled environment. Good luck.

You can always just forbid them from leaving home.. but then you're fucked when they move out when they get older and become a stripper as a way to cope with their repressed child hood.

[Blake]

Ok then. Your kid can be breaking the law behind your back and my kid can be breaking the law in a controlled environment. Good luck.

if I've done a good enough job educating my kid, she won't be breaking the law at all...

and if she does, she will be punished accordingly.

your kid can break the law in front of your face and when he/she does it next time behind your back, you can't say squat because you have already allowed it before.


You can always just forbid them from leaving home.. but then you're fucked when they move out when they get older and become a stripper as a way to cope with their repressed child hood.

I'm guessing by your logic, there are very few strippers that were ever given alcohol at an early age by their parents........those lucky kids that had cool parents went on to become doctors and lawyers.....

:lol come back in 10-20 years when you've had a teenager and let me know how it's gone for you.

[Mixability]

:lmao at the "well MY kid....."

All you people saying that your daughter was raised right and blah blah blah will be grandparents alot sooner than you think.

[JoeChalupa]

:lmao at the "well MY kid....."

All you people saying that your daughter was raised right and blah blah blah will be grandparents alot sooner than you think.

You may be right....then again...you could be wrong. So far none of my nieces have gotten pregnant before the age of 21. That being said my oldest just turned 15 so......only time will tell.

[Mixability]

So far none of my nieces have gotten pregnant before the age of 21.

You know what abortions and condoms are right?

:lol

[JoeChalupa]

You know what abortions and condoms are right?

:lol

Birth control, yes...abortion? No way.

[Blake]

:lmao at the "well MY kid....."

All you people saying that your daughter was raised right and blah blah blah will be grandparents alot sooner than you think.

not saying it can't happen. just saying I'm doing my part to cut down on the chances of it happening.

allowing them to do things in front of your face in order to avoid them doing those things behind your back does you no favors in the long run.

and if she does end up getting pregnant, she will always know that it was her choice and can never blame me for allowing her to do it.

[Mixability]

Birth control, yes...abortion? No way.


Well they have access to both regardless of your knowledge

[JoeChalupa]

Well they have access to both regardless of your knowledge

Well duh....I'm just saying that knowing them I highly doubt they would choose abortion.
But that is a correct statement.

[ploto]

I think the adult supervision of this thing defeats any objection to it.

The only adult who should make that choice is his or her own parent who is actually there. Would you really trust the judgment of the people setting this thing up in the first place?

[Clandestino]

many countries the legal age is 16. the u.s. is too prudish about alcohol.

[Blake]

many countries the legal age is 16. the u.s. is too prudish about alcohol.

I absolutely agree.

IMO, they should just do away with drinking ages altogether.

[Boris]

Will there be any limits on weed?