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Galileo
06-11-2009, 04:22 PM
Ron Paul's Bill Has 213 Co-Sponsors!

Audit of Federal Reserve nearing critical mass

Rep. Paul plan has 213 co-sponsors in 435-member U.S. House

Posted: June 11, 2009

By Bob Unruh

© 2009 WorldNetDaily

A plan by U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, to audit the Federal Reserve today lacks only a handful of signatures on a list of co-sponsors to hold a majority in the U.S. House.

Officials with Paul's office have confirmed to WND there now are 213 cosponsors signed onto H.R. 1207, the Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009 that demands an audit of the organization.

Paul long has opposed the power held by the Federal Reserve and its ability to manipulate the nation's economy and over the years has launched multiple proposals to get rid of the quasi-governmental agency, without significant support.

(Story continues below)

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Viva Las Espuelas
06-11-2009, 04:41 PM
man, that's a long shot, but i hope that it happens. not holding my breath

Galileo
06-11-2009, 04:44 PM
man, that's a long shot, but i hope that it happens. not holding my breath

It's not a long shot in the House, they probably already have the votes.

SnakeBoy
06-11-2009, 05:00 PM
Never gonna happen.

Galileo
06-11-2009, 05:06 PM
Never gonna happen.

What's not gonna happen?

SnakeBoy
06-11-2009, 05:08 PM
audit the Federal Reserve

Galileo
06-11-2009, 05:29 PM
Audit the Fed Bill Reaches 218+

Audit the Fed Bill Reaches Crucial Benchmark

Washington, D.C. - Congressman Ron Paul's Federal Reserve Transparency Act, HR 1207, has reached and surpassed the level of 218 cosponsors in the House of Representatives, which means it is now cosponsored by a majority of the members.

The 218th cosponsor was Dennis Kucinich (OH-10), and the bill has since received its 222nd cosponsor.

"The tremendous grass-roots and bipartisan support in Congress for HR 1207 is an indicator of how mainstream America is fed up with Fed secrecy," said Congressman Paul. "I look forward to this issue receiving greater public exposure."

Hearings on Federal Reserve transparency are expected within the next month, as part of the Financial Services Committee's series of hearings on regulatory reform.

http://digg.com/d1tZyG

Wild Cobra
06-11-2009, 05:51 PM
Well, Thomas (http://www.thomas.gov/) gets updated daily and has 208 cosponsors listed:

Rep Abercrombie, Neil [HI-1] - 2/26/2009
Rep Aderholt, Robert B. [AL-4] - 5/6/2009
Rep Adler, John H. [NJ-3] - 5/6/2009
Rep Akin, W. Todd [MO-2] - 3/19/2009
Rep Alexander, Rodney [LA-5] - 3/10/2009
Rep Altmire, Jason [PA-4] - 5/20/2009
Rep Austria, Steve [OH-7] - 5/6/2009
Rep Bachmann, Michele [MN-6] - 2/26/2009
Rep Bachus, Spencer [AL-6] - 4/29/2009
Rep Baldwin, Tammy [WI-2] - 4/21/2009
Rep Barrett, J. Gresham [SC-3] - 4/28/2009
Rep Barrow, John [GA-12] - 5/12/2009
Rep Bartlett, Roscoe G. [MD-6] - 2/26/2009
Rep Barton, Joe [TX-6] - 5/4/2009
Rep Berkley, Shelley [NV-1] - 5/21/2009
Rep Berry, Marion [AR-1] - 5/20/2009
Rep Biggert, Judy [IL-13] - 4/28/2009
Rep Bilbray, Brian P. [CA-50] - 4/21/2009
Rep Bilirakis, Gus M. [FL-9] - 5/4/2009
Rep Bishop, Rob [UT-1] - 4/21/2009
Rep Blackburn, Marsha [TN-7] - 3/16/2009
Rep Blunt, Roy [MO-7] - 3/24/2009
Rep Boehner, John A. [OH-8] - 6/10/2009
Rep Bonner, Jo [AL-1] - 6/9/2009
Rep Bono Mack, Mary [CA-45] - 4/29/2009
Rep Boozman, John [AR-3] - 5/7/2009
Rep Boswell, Leonard L. [IA-3] - 6/9/2009
Rep Boustany, Charles W., Jr. [LA-7] - 5/13/2009
Rep Brady, Kevin [TX-8] - 4/22/2009
Rep Broun, Paul C. [GA-10] - 2/26/2009
Rep Brown, Henry E., Jr. [SC-1] - 4/28/2009
Rep Brown-Waite, Ginny [FL-5] - 5/20/2009
Rep Buchanan, Vern [FL-13] - 3/17/2009
Rep Burgess, Michael C. [TX-26] - 3/19/2009
Rep Burton, Dan [IN-5] - 2/26/2009
Rep Buyer, Steve [IN-4] - 4/30/2009
Rep Calvert, Ken [CA-44] - 4/29/2009
Rep Campbell, John [CA-48] - 5/4/2009
Rep Capito, Shelley Moore [WV-2] - 4/1/2009
Rep Carney, Christopher P. [PA-10] - 6/9/2009
Rep Carter, John R. [TX-31] - 3/31/2009
Rep Cassidy, Bill [LA-6] - 5/4/2009
Rep Castle, Michael N. [DE] - 3/17/2009
Rep Chaffetz, Jason [UT-3] - 3/6/2009
Rep Childers, Travis [MS-1] - 6/9/2009
Rep Cole, Tom [OK-4] - 4/21/2009
Rep Conaway, K. Michael [TX-11] - 5/7/2009
Rep Crenshaw, Ander [FL-4] - 5/4/2009
Rep Culberson, John Abney [TX-7] - 3/26/2009
Rep Davis, Geoff [KY-4] - 5/6/2009
Rep Deal, Nathan [GA-9] - 3/23/2009
Rep DeFazio, Peter A. [OR-4] - 3/9/2009
Rep Dent, Charles W. [PA-15] - 5/6/2009
Rep Doggett, Lloyd [TX-25] - 4/21/2009
Rep Dreier, David [CA-26] - 6/10/2009
Rep Duncan, John J., Jr. [TN-2] - 3/6/2009
Rep Ehlers, Vernon J. [MI-3] - 4/21/2009
Rep Fallin, Mary [OK-5] - 4/2/2009
Rep Flake, Jeff [AZ-6] - 5/11/2009
Rep Fleming, John [LA-4] - 3/18/2009
Rep Forbes, J. Randy [VA-4] - 5/20/2009
Rep Fortenberry, Jeff [NE-1] - 5/12/2009
Rep Foxx, Virginia [NC-5] - 3/10/2009
Rep Franks, Trent [AZ-2] - 3/23/2009
Rep Frelinghuysen, Rodney P. [NJ-11] - 6/3/2009
Rep Garrett, Scott [NJ-5] - 3/5/2009
Rep Gerlach, Jim [PA-6] - 5/11/2009
Rep Gingrey, Phil [GA-11] - 3/30/2009
Rep Gohmert, Louie [TX-1] - 4/23/2009
Rep Goodlatte, Bob [VA-6] - 4/28/2009
Rep Granger, Kay [TX-12] - 4/28/2009
Rep Graves, Sam [MO-6] - 4/22/2009
Rep Grayson, Alan [FL-8] - 3/11/2009
Rep Grijalva, Raul M. [AZ-7] - 6/3/2009
Rep Guthrie, Brett [KY-2] - 5/7/2009
Rep Hall, Ralph M. [TX-4] - 4/29/2009
Rep Halvorson, Deborah L. [IL-11] - 6/3/2009
Rep Hare, Phil [IL-17] - 5/11/2009
Rep Harper, Gregg [MS-3] - 5/11/2009
Rep Hastings, Doc [WA-4] - 5/11/2009
Rep Heller, Dean [NV-2] - 3/6/2009
Rep Hensarling, Jeb [TX-5] - 5/4/2009
Rep Herger, Wally [CA-2] - 4/21/2009
Rep Herseth Sandlin, Stephanie [SD] - 5/6/2009
Rep Hinchey, Maurice D. [NY-22] - 6/2/2009
Rep Hoekstra, Peter [MI-2] - 4/28/2009
Rep Holden, Tim [PA-17] - 6/4/2009
Rep Hunter, Duncan D. [CA-52] - 5/13/2009
Rep Inglis, Bob [SC-4] - 4/23/2009
Rep Inslee, Jay [WA-1] - 5/12/2009
Rep Jenkins, Lynn [KS-2] - 4/23/2009
Rep Johnson, Henry C. "Hank," Jr. [GA-4] - 6/9/2009
Rep Johnson, Sam [TX-3] - 4/22/2009
Rep Johnson, Timothy V. [IL-15] - 4/23/2009
Rep Jones, Walter B., Jr. [NC-3] - 2/26/2009
Rep Jordan, Jim [OH-4] - 6/2/2009
Rep Kagen, Steve [WI-8] - 2/26/2009
Rep Kaptur, Marcy [OH-9] - 4/23/2009
Rep King, Peter T. [NY-3] - 6/4/2009
Rep Kingston, Jack [GA-1] - 3/6/2009
Rep Kline, John [MN-2] - 4/29/2009
Rep Kratovil, Frank, Jr. [MD-1] - 6/4/2009
Rep Lamborn, Doug [CO-5] - 4/21/2009
Rep Lance, Leonard [NJ-7] - 5/11/2009
Rep Latham, Tom [IA-4] - 4/21/2009
Rep LaTourette, Steven C. [OH-14] - 4/28/2009
Rep Latta, Robert E. [OH-5] - 5/20/2009
Rep Lee, Christopher J. [NY-26] - 6/10/2009
Rep Linder, John [GA-7] - 5/6/2009
Rep Lipinski, Daniel [IL-3] - 6/4/2009
Rep LoBiondo, Frank A. [NJ-2] - 5/4/2009
Rep Loebsack, David [IA-2] - 6/10/2009
Rep Lucas, Frank D. [OK-3] - 4/21/2009
Rep Luetkemeyer, Blaine [MO-9] - 4/21/2009
Rep Lummis, Cynthia M. [WY] - 3/19/2009
Rep Lungren, Daniel E. [CA-3] - 5/7/2009
Rep Mack, Connie [FL-14] - 5/12/2009
Rep Maffei, Daniel B. [NY-25] - 5/12/2009
Rep Manzullo, Donald A. [IL-16] - 4/21/2009
Rep Marchant, Kenny [TX-24] - 3/11/2009
Rep Massa, Eric J. J. [NY-29] - 4/22/2009
Rep McCarthy, Kevin [CA-22] - 5/4/2009
Rep McCaul, Michael T. [TX-10] - 4/21/2009
Rep McClintock, Tom [CA-4] - 3/6/2009
Rep McCotter, Thaddeus G. [MI-11] - 3/19/2009
Rep McDermott, Jim [WA-7] - 4/29/2009
Rep McGovern, James P. [MA-3] - 6/10/2009
Rep McHenry, Patrick T. [NC-10] - 4/30/2009
Rep McHugh, John M. [NY-23] - 5/4/2009
Rep McIntyre, Mike [NC-7] - 6/10/2009
Rep McMorris Rodgers, Cathy [WA-5] - 5/4/2009
Rep Mica, John L. [FL-7] - 5/12/2009
Rep Michaud, Michael H. [ME-2] - 5/7/2009
Rep Miller, Candice S. [MI-10] - 4/28/2009
Rep Miller, Gary G. [CA-42] - 6/10/2009
Rep Miller, Jeff [FL-1] - 3/24/2009
Rep Minnick, Walter [ID-1] - 5/13/2009
Rep Mitchell, Harry E. [AZ-5] - 6/9/2009
Rep Moran, Jerry [KS-1] - 5/4/2009
Rep Murphy, Patrick J. [PA-8] - 6/9/2009
Rep Murphy, Tim [PA-18] - 4/29/2009
Rep Myrick, Sue Wilkins [NC-9] - 4/28/2009
Rep Neugebauer, Randy [TX-19] - 4/30/2009
Rep Olson, Pete [TX-22] - 4/21/2009
Rep Ortiz, Solomon P. [TX-27] - 5/14/2009
Rep Pascrell, Bill, Jr. [NJ-8] - 6/9/2009
Rep Pastor, Ed [AZ-4] - 5/20/2009
Rep Paulsen, Erik [MN-3] - 3/30/2009
Rep Pence, Mike [IN-6] - 4/21/2009
Rep Perlmutter, Ed [CO-7] - 6/10/2009
Rep Perriello, Thomas S.P. [VA-5] - 5/13/2009
Rep Peterson, Collin C. [MN-7] - 3/19/2009
Rep Petri, Thomas E. [WI-6] - 3/10/2009
Rep Pitts, Joseph R. [PA-16] - 4/28/2009
Rep Platts, Todd Russell [PA-19] - 3/19/2009
Rep Poe, Ted [TX-2] - 2/26/2009
Rep Posey, Bill [FL-15] - 2/26/2009
Rep Price, Tom [GA-6] - 3/10/2009
Rep Putnam, Adam H. [FL-12] - 4/28/2009
Rep Radanovich, George [CA-19] - 5/6/2009
Rep Rehberg, Denny [MT] - 2/26/2009
Rep Reichert, David G. [WA-8] - 5/20/2009
Rep Roe, David P. [TN-1] - 4/21/2009
Rep Rogers, Mike D. [AL-3] - 5/13/2009
Rep Rogers, Mike J. [MI-8] - 5/20/2009
Rep Rohrabacher, Dana [CA-46] - 3/6/2009
Rep Rooney, Thomas J. [FL-16] - 4/22/2009
Rep Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana [FL-18] - 4/28/2009
Rep Roskam, Peter J. [IL-6] - 6/2/2009
Rep Ross, Mike [AR-4] - 5/21/2009
Rep Royce, Edward R. [CA-40] - 5/12/2009
Rep Ryan, Paul [WI-1] - 5/14/2009
Rep Scalise, Steve [LA-1] - 5/20/2009
Rep Schakowsky, Janice D. [IL-9] - 5/6/2009
Rep Schauer, Mark H. [MI-7] - 5/20/2009
Rep Schock, Aaron [IL-18] - 5/6/2009
Rep Sensenbrenner, F. James, Jr. [WI-5] - 5/7/2009
Rep Sessions, Pete [TX-32] - 3/23/2009
Rep Shadegg, John B. [AZ-3] - 5/7/2009
Rep Shea-Porter, Carol [NH-1] - 6/9/2009
Rep Shimkus, John [IL-19] - 4/22/2009
Rep Shuster, Bill [PA-9] - 5/7/2009
Rep Simpson, Michael K. [ID-2] - 4/28/2009
Rep Smith, Adam [WA-9] - 4/22/2009
Rep Smith, Adrian [NE-3] - 4/28/2009
Rep Smith, Lamar [TX-21] - 4/2/2009
Rep Stark, Fortney Pete [CA-13] - 3/26/2009
Rep Stearns, Cliff [FL-6] - 3/6/2009
Rep Taylor, Gene [MS-4] - 3/6/2009
Rep Terry, Lee [NE-2] - 3/30/2009
Rep Thompson, Glenn [PA-5] - 4/22/2009
Rep Thornberry, Mac [TX-13] - 5/21/2009
Rep Tiahrt, Todd [KS-4] - 4/28/2009
Rep Tiberi, Patrick J. [OH-12] - 4/28/2009
Rep Tonko, Paul D. [NY-21] - 6/9/2009
Rep Turner, Michael R. [OH-3] - 5/13/2009
Rep Upton, Fred [MI-6] - 4/29/2009
Rep Walden, Greg [OR-2] - 5/4/2009
Rep Walz, Timothy J. [MN-1] - 5/7/2009
Rep Wamp, Zach [TN-3] - 3/16/2009
Rep Welch, Peter [VT] - 5/21/2009
Rep Westmoreland, Lynn A. [GA-3] - 4/2/2009
Rep Whitfield, Ed [KY-1] - 5/14/2009
Rep Wilson, Joe [SC-2] - 4/29/2009
Rep Wittman, Robert J. [VA-1] - 4/1/2009
Rep Woolsey, Lynn C. [CA-6] - 2/26/2009
Rep Young, C.W. Bill [FL-10] - 6/3/2009
Rep Young, Don [AK] - 3/6/2009

Cannot link the results as it is a temporary link based on the search. You have to click on the above link and put a search for H.R. 1207 in.

Galileo
06-11-2009, 06:47 PM
Fed Would Be Shut Down If It Were Audited, Expert Says

10 Jun 2009

The Federal Reserve's balance sheet is so out of whack that the central bank would be shut down if subjected to a conventional audit, Jim Grant, editor of Grant's Interest Rate Observer, told CNBC.

With $45 billion in capital and $2.1 trillion in assets, the central bank would not withstand the scrutiny normally afforded other institutions, Grant said in a live interview.

"If the Fed examiners were set upon the Fed's own documents—unlabeled documents—to pass judgment on the Fed's capacity to survive the difficulties it faces in credit, it would shut this institution down," he said. "The Fed is undercapitalized in a way that Citicorp is undercapitalized."

Grant said he would support legislation currently making its way through Congress calling for an audit of the Fed.

Moreover, he criticized the way the Fed has managed the financial crisis, saying the central bank's target rate should not be around zero.

"I think zero is the wrong rate for almost any economy," Grant said, adding the Fed has "embarked on a vast experiment in moral hazard. Interest rates are the traffic signals in a market economy, and everything's green. ... You have to wonder whether these interest rates are the right clearing rate or rather they are the imposition of a central bank."

Amid a disparity between analysts predicting there will be no rate hikes soon and the fed funds futures indicating tightening by the end of the year, Grant said he thinks the Fed indeed will begin raising rates as inflation creeps into the picture.

Fed funds futures have fully priced in as much as a half-point rise in the target rate from its current range of zero to 0.25 percent.

"If the hairs on the back of your neck stand up when there's too much unanimity of opinion, then one begins to worry about this," he said. "The Fed proverbially has been late."

http://www.cnbc.com/id/31204170

Galileo's comment:

Can we bailout the Fed?

:-)

Marcus Bryant
06-11-2009, 09:54 PM
We're guaranteed Asset Bubble III at this point.

Winehole23
06-12-2009, 03:05 AM
T-bubble? Food/fuel? Legacy assets rebubble?

Winehole23
06-12-2009, 03:29 AM
Well, Thomas (http://www.thomas.gov/) gets updated daily and has 208 cosponsors listed:Thomas is surely more authoritative than Facebook, but it may not be fully up to date if it is only updated 1x daily.

LnGrrrR
06-12-2009, 07:07 AM
I'm down for this. Let sunshine... well... shine.

Marcus Bryant
06-12-2009, 07:52 AM
T-bubble?

Tulips? Perhaps.

boutons_deux
06-12-2009, 09:25 AM
Financial sector's $$ go farther in the Senate, where there are fewer whores to buy, to block anything the 500+ votes in the House throws up.

Bill passed by House, bill killed by Senate. No law. yawn

Magik Negro's abandonment of transparency and accountability means he could veto the bill anyway.

The last thing the financial sector and their whore politicians want is to be exposed as crooks, as gaming the system to suck $Ts out of citizens' pockets.

jman3000
06-12-2009, 09:39 AM
It'll never get past the Senate.

coyotes_geek
06-12-2009, 10:34 AM
Financial sector's $$ go farther in the Senate, where there are fewer whores to buy, to block anything the 500+ votes in the House throws up.

Bill passed by House, bill killed by Senate. No law. yawn

Magik Negro's abandonment of transparency and accountability means he could veto the bill anyway.

The last thing the financial sector and their whore politicians want is to be exposed as crooks, as gaming the system to suck $Ts out of citizens' pockets.

But don't worry, when it comes to government run healthcare everything will work out just fine.

boutons_deux
06-12-2009, 11:25 AM
typical lying and fear mongering.

Congress won't run health care.

And govt won't run health care, but will operate an insurance fund.

FaithInOne
06-12-2009, 11:49 AM
Financial sector's $$ go farther in the Senate, where there are fewer whores to buy, to block anything the 500+ votes in the House throws up.

Bill passed by House, bill killed by Senate. No law. yawn

Magik Negro's abandonment of transparency and accountability means he could veto the bill anyway.

The last thing the financial sector and their whore politicians want is to be exposed as crooks, as gaming the system to suck $Ts out of citizens' pockets.

You can't really abandon something you never carried out. :king

"Different" politician! :rollin:rollin

coyotes_geek
06-12-2009, 12:48 PM
typical lying and fear mongering.

Congress won't run health care.

And govt won't run health care, but will operate an insurance fund.

Right. Just like congress doesn't run social security, yet somehow they managed to loot it's trust fund to the tune of $5+ trillion dollars.

Wild Cobra
06-12-2009, 01:23 PM
Thomas is surely more authoritative than Facebook, but it may not be fully up to date if it is only updated 1x daily.
I didn't say the 213 was false. The daily update reflects the prior day. I haven't looked yet, but plan to.

Wild Cobra
06-12-2009, 01:26 PM
Today's update for 6/11 now has 221 Co-sponsors, and probably more from today will be added tomorrow!

Galileo
06-12-2009, 02:12 PM
It'll never get past the Senate.

we'll see how many of the 222 co-sponsors challenge for Senate seats in the next few election cycles.

Internet news and fundraising continuies to grow.

Aggie Hoopsfan
06-13-2009, 02:56 PM
It'll never get past the Senate.

Go ahead and let them (or the Messiah) try and kill it, and let's see how the 2010 elections work out for them.

Marcus Bryant
06-13-2009, 10:34 PM
Go ahead and let them (or the Messiah) try and kill it, and let's see how the 2010 elections work out for them.

Probably about the same as those who opposed Congressman Paul in the last GOP presidential primary fared (not that he was not preferable). Let's be a little realistic about the American electorate circa now.

Wild Cobra
06-13-2009, 10:47 PM
The bill is so simple, and president Obama says he wants transparency. There should be no problem passing it, right? It's also up to 224 cosponsors.

H.R. 1207 (http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.1207:):


111th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 1207

To amend title 31, United States Code, to reform the manner in which the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System is audited by the Comptroller General of the United States and the manner in which such audits are reported, and for other purposes.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

February 26, 2009

Mr. PAUL (for himself, Mr. KAGEN, Mrs. BACHMANN, Mr. BARTLETT, Mr. JONES, Mr. REHBERG, Mr. POSEY, Mr. BROUN of Georgia, Mr. POE of Texas, Mr. BURTON of Indiana, Mr. ABERCROMBIE, and Ms. WOOLSEY) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Financial Services


A BILL

To amend title 31, United States Code, to reform the manner in which the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System is audited by the Comptroller General of the United States and the manner in which such audits are reported, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009'.

SEC. 2. AUDIT REFORM AND TRANSPARENCY FOR THE BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM.

(a) In General- Subsection (b) of section 714 of title 31, United States Code, is amended by striking all after `shall audit an agency' and inserting a period.

(b) Audit- Section 714 of title 31, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following new subsection:

`(e) Audit and Report of the Federal Reserve System-

`(1) IN GENERAL- The audit of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal reserve banks under subsection (b) shall be completed before the end of 2010.

`(2) REPORT-

`(A) REQUIRED- A report on the audit referred to in paragraph (1) shall be submitted by the Comptroller General to the Congress before the end of the 90-day period beginning on the date on which such audit is completed and made available to the Speaker of the House, the majority and minority leaders of the House of Representatives, the majority and minority leaders of the Senate, the Chairman and Ranking Member of the committee and each subcommittee of jurisdiction in the House of Representatives and the Senate, and any other Member of Congress who requests it.

`(B) CONTENTS- The report under subparagraph (A) shall include a detailed description of the findings and conclusion of the Comptroller General with respect to the audit that is the subject of the report, together with such recommendations for legislative or administrative action as the Comptroller General may determine to be appropriate.'.

SnakeBoy
06-13-2009, 10:59 PM
Go ahead and let them (or the Messiah) try and kill it, and let's see how the 2010 elections work out for them.


Challenger: My opponent killed the bill to audit the fed.
Incumbent: Did not!
Average voter: What does audit mean?

Wild Cobra
06-23-2009, 10:12 PM
237 cosponsors now, but guess who must have her but up her ass. This thing has no farther action with a majority of cosponsors. Isn't that a violation of house rules?

jman3000
06-23-2009, 10:58 PM
Did you mean head up her ass?

Butt up her ass is blowing my mind.

Wild Cobra
06-23-2009, 11:12 PM
Did you mean head up her ass?

Butt up her ass is blowing my mind.
I meant to say thumb, but head works.

Xylus
06-24-2009, 12:23 AM
Butt up her ass is blowing my mind.

:lmao

Wild Cobra
06-24-2009, 11:22 AM
Here's an interesting video:

XkDRCDLhVcM

Viva Las Espuelas
06-24-2009, 12:05 PM
The bill is so simple, and president Obama says he wants transparency. There should be no problem passing it, right? It's also up to 224 cosponsors.

H.R. 1207 (http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.1207:):
wow. this is only one page? so compared to the stimulus bill all congress has to do is blink and they should get all the facts on this....... that's great

Wild Cobra
06-24-2009, 12:33 PM
wow. this is only one page? so compared to the stimulus bill all congress has to do is blink and they should get all the facts on this....... that's great
Don't need a large bill unless you are purposely making loopholes for legal theft.

Viva Las Espuelas
06-24-2009, 12:43 PM
Don't need a large bill unless you are purposely making loopholes for legal theft.
i wonder how many pages the tax and tax bill is that they're voting for on friday?

sabar
06-24-2009, 02:12 PM
This cannot (rather, will not) pass the senate, there is too much power for the government to lose. Ron Paul continues to show that he is one of the few politicians not corrupted by the lure of power, but little else will come from this.

Wild Cobra
06-24-2009, 04:14 PM
i wonder how many pages the tax and tax bill is that they're voting for on friday?

The Cap and Trade Bill (Full Chinese Employment Act) is currently at 1201 pages.

HR 2454 (http://www.eenews.net/public/25/11457/features/documents/2009/06/23/document_daily_03.pdf)

Wild Cobra
06-24-2009, 04:16 PM
This cannot (rather, will not) pass the senate, there is too much power for the government to lose. Ron Paul continues to show that he is one of the few politicians not corrupted by the lure of power, but little else will come from this.
I would normally agree with you except there is some pretty good support in the house on it. There could be some pressure on this one.

Viva Las Espuelas
07-01-2009, 10:29 AM
Well it's got the votes. Now Sylvester Frank just needs to move his fatass and get this going.