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Imposter
06-12-2009, 07:17 PM
Everyone will have their own opinion but I was always a fan of Madonna and Susanna Hoffs from the Bangles.

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/imposter_02/Madonna20portrait20198320sleeve.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/imposter_02/565825189_l.jpg

jack sommerset
06-12-2009, 07:24 PM
Hands down Debbie Gibson.

sonic21
06-12-2009, 07:28 PM
Kim Wilde

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/2662697.jpg

Reichen Lehmkuhl
06-12-2009, 07:29 PM
George Michael :toast

samikeyp
06-12-2009, 08:10 PM
Belinda Carlisle.

Ok, but she was my favorite! :toast

Cant_Be_Faded
06-13-2009, 12:13 AM
***waiting for midgetonadonkey to name Lita Ford***


I'm going to say the non-ugly chick from Heart, the blonde one that was non-preggo at the time of "These Dreams", the one that ripped off Lita Ford's style, and was uber hot.
That chick is still really hot even at age 50ish.

http://www.womeninrock.com/Nancy_Wilson.jpg

POWPOW

ChumpDumper
06-13-2009, 02:52 AM
Her music could and can be laughably pretentious, but Kate Bush was pretty good looking.

alamo50
06-13-2009, 03:41 AM
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/8307/sabrina9fh.jpg

Slydragon
06-13-2009, 04:18 AM
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9210/263463boygeorgeposters.jpg






you knew it was coming.

Wild Cobra
06-13-2009, 10:23 AM
How about Terri Nunn:

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr348/nickcalandrino/terri_acoustic4.jpg

Link: YouTube - Take My Breath Away (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86MY-quTiJs) (doesn't embed properly)

Not the hottest, but I love her voice and she does it for me. I also like Stevie Nicks.

Bukefal
06-13-2009, 11:51 AM
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/8307/sabrina9fh.jpg

Yeahhhhh Sabrina!!! She was looking hot! Anyway's; Madonna too!

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo132/Barenboos/bar1/65798_4_123_784lo.jpghttp://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo132/Barenboos/bar1/65812_8_123_356lo.jpghttp://img196.imagevenue.com/initial/loc367/66208_b4_123_367lo.jpg

EricB
06-13-2009, 12:05 PM
Vote numero dos for Terri Nunn

JoeChalupa
06-13-2009, 12:05 PM
http://members.fortunecity.com/sheenanews/take.jpg

JoeChalupa
06-13-2009, 12:08 PM
http://www.pure80spop.co.uk/Images/poppics/sade.jpg

JoeChalupa
06-13-2009, 12:12 PM
Everyone will have their own opinion but I was always a fan of Madonna and Susanna Hoffs from the Bangles.

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/imposter_02/Madonna20portrait20198320sleeve.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/imposter_02/565825189_l.jpg

Never thought Madonna was hot but Susanna Hoffs sure was. :tu

Strike
06-13-2009, 12:23 PM
***waiting for midgetonadonkey to name Lita Ford***


I'm going to say the non-ugly chick from Heart, the blonde one that was non-preggo at the time of "These Dreams", the one that ripped off Lita Ford's style, and was uber hot.
That chick is still really hot even at age 50ish.

http://www.womeninrock.com/Nancy_Wilson.jpg

POWPOW

Nancy Wilson. She still looks good today.

Ann (lead singer & Nancy's sister) was a fox too back in the 70's/early 80's before she packed on the pounds.

http://strategerie.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/ann-and-nancy-wilson.jpg

http://gamesnet.vo.llnwd.net/o1/gamestar/objects/154611_main.jpg

Kermit
06-13-2009, 12:26 PM
Sade has a five head.

whottt
06-13-2009, 12:42 PM
I'm goin' with one of Lita Ford:

http://www.guitaristka.ru/zapad/lita-01.jpg

And she really does get some kind of extra points for being a metal guitarist on top of it...a pretty good one actually.


Stevie Nicks:

http://www.ticketservice.com/assets/images/stevie_nicks2.jpg


Or Hoffs...



I'm sure there were more...

whottt
06-13-2009, 12:52 PM
Nancy Wilson is definitely one of the best looking women musicians but I'd consider more 70's than 80's. She was already kind of the elder generation by the 80's. And IMO, Heart sucked in the 80's.

whottt
06-13-2009, 12:53 PM
I think I'm going with Lita, she sang, played and wrote her own songs. And she was smokin' hot. The pictures available on the web do not do her justice.

Kermit
06-13-2009, 12:56 PM
I always had a thing for Crystal Gayle. I know she was mainly a seventies girl, but she lasted into the eighties as well.

http://www.korenzailckas.com/uploaded_images/CrystalGayle1-755223.jpg
http://www.edcug.org/news/Crystal-Gayle-Hair.jpg

Kermit
06-13-2009, 12:58 PM
I think I'm going with Lita, she sang, played and wrote her own songs. And she was smokin' hot. The pictures available on the web do not do her justice.

Lita was super hot, but the fashion she wears in many of the photos takes her down 10 pegs. She wore some UGLY stuff.

SnakeBoy
06-13-2009, 01:05 PM
She wasn't a big star here but Nena (the 99 luftballoons chick) was hot.

Still is...

http://boneinsub.net/up/nena.jpg

Dr. Gonzo
06-13-2009, 01:10 PM
***waiting for midgetonadonkey to name Lita Ford***

You are pretty right on about this.

http://dietrichthrall.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/lita-ford.jpg

Richard Cranium
06-13-2009, 01:15 PM
I think I'm going with Lita, she sang, played and wrote her own songs. And she was smokin' hot. The pictures available on the web do not do her justice.


Her face never did her justice.

JudynTX
06-13-2009, 06:06 PM
http://www.pure80spop.co.uk/Images/poppics/sade.jpg


Sade has a five head.

:music I love her! I saw her @ Municipal Auditorium many many years ago. :depressed

I'm going to say Nancy Wilson & Joan Jett (back then). :lol

Drachen
06-13-2009, 11:08 PM
http://www.jewishjournal.com/images/photos/toc_hoffs-susanna_092906.jpg

Susanna Hoffs and it isn't even close, I mean those eyes and those lips. The above picture is a recent one, she is still hotter than 95% of TODAYS pop stars.

Wild Cobra
06-13-2009, 11:19 PM
More Teri Nunn...

BERLIN You Don't Know LONG VERSION Terri Nunn:

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Sill looking good at 46 years old, October 20, 2007 Performing Sex (I'm A...:

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Berlin performing "Masquerade" on the tv series "Solid Gold:"

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Pistons < Spurs
06-13-2009, 11:19 PM
Samantha Fox


http://stilgherrian.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/samanthafox1.jpg

samikeyp
06-13-2009, 11:20 PM
:tu

Cant_Be_Faded
06-13-2009, 11:31 PM
Lita Ford is easily the hottest in terms of muscianship. But Hoff and Nancy Wilson are uber hot.

whottt
06-13-2009, 11:35 PM
Samantha Fox


http://stilgherrian.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/samanthafox1.jpg



I forgot about her...I had a few of her posters at some point. She was freaking hot, and she had a good voice and was a porn star too IIRC.

whottt
06-13-2009, 11:38 PM
Lita Ford is easily the hottest in terms of muscianship. But Hoff and Nancy Wilson are uber hot.

Pretty close. Hoffs was really cute and she is easily in the discussion. I could easily see her taking the trophy.

There was one point where I definitely considered Nancy Wilson to be one of best looking women I had ever seen but due to IMHO, the shitty output by Heart in the 80's, she fell out of favor with me some point way back when. I thought music was really bad in the 80's.





I don't know how far back your knowledge goes, but do you know Linda Ronstadt? Once upon a time, she was without a doubt the hottest woman in music.

Wild Cobra
06-13-2009, 11:39 PM
Samantha was hot then, but Terri has stayed hot! Besides, isn't it Bubblegum Rock that Samantha would sing?

whottt
06-13-2009, 11:41 PM
Samantha was hot then, but Terri has stayed hot!

The best video to show how hot the Berlin chick was is Metro. That's the one where she looks like one of the Landers sisters.

samikeyp
06-13-2009, 11:42 PM
I don't know how far back your knowledge goes, but do you know Linda Ronstadt? Once upon a time, she was without a doubt the hottest woman in music.

Amen. :toast

Wild Cobra
06-13-2009, 11:51 PM
The best video to show how hot the Berlin chick was is Metro. That's the one where she looks like one of the Landers sisters.
Thanx... I have all of Berlin's CD's Just never watched MTV, VH1, etc.

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whottt
06-13-2009, 11:53 PM
Samantha was hot then, but Terri has stayed hot! Besides, isn't it Bubblegum Rock that Samantha would sing?

Samantha Fox possibly has the best tits in the history of man, more importantly, she realizes this and is very generous with them...her mention in this debate reopens everything up as far as I'm concerned.

We knew some were being overlooked.

And she has a fantastic voice on top of it.


Samantha:


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http://www.cine5x.com/fotos/samantha_fox_4.jpg

http://imagecache.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPH/188107~Samantha-Fox-Posters.jpg

http://www.syndykatartystyczny.pl/images/files/Samantha_Fox.jpg


http://www.franceastro.com/Astro-people/admin/uploads/actus/Samantha-Fox


And that's not all...Samantha being the incredibly wonderful woman she was, was very generous with her body in her prime, and men everywhere owe her a debt of gratitude. I reccomend google.



IMHO, P<S quietly took a sledgehammer to this entire thread.

whottt
06-13-2009, 11:56 PM
I forgot Kylie Minogue came out in the 80's too...


While we can debate all day which one was the hottest(although IMHO Samantha Fox was the clear victor)...without a doubt Kylie is the one that continued to get hotter and hotter for like the next 15 years after her debut.

whottt
06-14-2009, 12:28 AM
isn't it Bubblegum Rock that Samantha would sing?

Well yeah but pretty much every female singer sang bubble gum music at first and they pretty much all kept singing it except for Ann Wilson and Linda Ronstandt. And that's not a good trend.

whottt
06-14-2009, 12:38 AM
Kylie Minogue when she first came out:

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Pretty cute but she transformed into incredibly hot over the next decade or so.


This chick here was only a one hit wonder but she had a great body:

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whottt
06-14-2009, 12:39 AM
One thing is for sure...80's clothes and hairstyles were freaking goofy(men and women). And it's not just hindsight either, I remember explicitly thinking they were goofy at the time and being pissed off I had to grow up when everyone dressed fucking goofy.

CuckingFunt
06-14-2009, 01:35 AM
This chick here was only a one hit wonder but she had a great body:

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Careful. Annabella Lwin is only 15 years old in that video.

Bow Wow Wow is one of my favorite bands, though.

Pistons < Spurs
06-14-2009, 01:36 AM
Laura Branigan
http://www.musicfan.ru/img/laura_branigan/photo/laura_branigan18.jpg

Olivia Newton John
http://www.portrait.gov.au/exhibit/hollywood/content/Olivia.jpg

Pat Benatar
http://benatar.edrcreations.com/images1/pat_headback_and_dancing.jpg

Carly Simon
http://www.inmusic2000.de/POP_Queens/Abba-Pics/Ani_Di_Franco-Pics/Wendy_James-Pics/Sharleen_Spiteri-Pics/carlysimon04.jpg

Alannah Myles
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000IITY.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Sheena Easton
http://www.sheenaeaston.co.uk/sepic2403021.jpg

CuckingFunt
06-14-2009, 01:38 AM
I'm about 98% sure your picture of Laura Branigan is actually Tiffany Amber Thiessen.

If not, the similarities are quite impressive.

Pistons < Spurs
06-14-2009, 01:45 AM
I'm about 98% sure your picture of Laura Branigan is actually Tiffany Amber Thiessen.

If not, the similarities are quite impressive.
fixed: I thought she looked different than I remembered her!

whottt
06-14-2009, 01:53 AM
Careful. Annabella Lwin is only 15 years old in that video.

Bow Wow Wow is one of my favorite bands, though.


No need to be careful...I was 13 at the time.

Slydragon
06-14-2009, 03:39 AM
No need to be careful...I was 13 at the time.

:lol That's what I was thinking

alamo50
06-14-2009, 04:34 AM
Samantha Fox

WHOOPS!
Completely forgot about Sam.
Scratch Sabrina with a fat black marker.

JoeChalupa
06-14-2009, 09:04 AM
Pretty close. Hoffs was really cute and she is easily in the discussion. I could easily see her taking the trophy.

There was one point where I definitely considered Nancy Wilson to be one of best looking women I had ever seen but due to IMHO, the shitty output by Heart in the 80's, she fell out of favor with me some point way back when. I thought music was really bad in the 80's.





I don't know how far back your knowledge goes, but do you know Linda Ronstadt? Once upon a time, she was without a doubt the hottest woman in music.

I was going to post Linda Ronstadt but she was more of a late 60's 70's babe and yes, she was smokin'!! Lita Ford never really did it for me but she is a blonde and I didn't find her that attractive.
I could easily vote for Susanna for her sexiness.

samikeyp
06-14-2009, 09:14 AM
I'm about 98% sure your picture of Laura Branigan is actually Tiffany Amber Thiessen.

If not, the similarities are quite impressive.

No, that is Laura Branigan.

Sadly, she is no longer with us.

BlueMen
06-14-2009, 09:22 AM
Laura Branigan had that thick eyebrow look going on!

leemajors
06-14-2009, 10:42 AM
apollonia

JudynTX
06-15-2009, 07:40 AM
apollonia

Forgot about her. :tu Especially in the movie Purple Rain. :D

Dark Gable
06-15-2009, 08:08 AM
http://www.vinyl-masterpiece.com/catalog/images/sheila_e_-_sheila_e.jpg

averageusaconsumer
06-15-2009, 08:56 AM
I am just surprised that no one has mentioned an in her prime Paula Abdul, she was a big deal back in the day.

JoeChalupa
06-15-2009, 09:33 AM
I am just surprised that no one has mentioned an in her prime Paula Abdul, she was a big deal back in the day.

Yeah, she was. :tu

Dr. Gonzo
06-15-2009, 09:38 AM
Samantha Fox
http://stilgherrian.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/samanthafox1.jpg

JoeChalupa
06-15-2009, 09:40 AM
Forgot about her. :tu Especially in the movie Purple Rain. :D

I remember pausing Purple Rain... :jack

JudynTX
06-15-2009, 09:44 AM
I remember pausing Purple Rain... :jack

When she was walking out of that cold lake, naked. :D

tlongII
06-15-2009, 11:10 AM
I actually met Terri Nunn back in 1992. I think she wanted to do me.

Dr. Gonzo
06-15-2009, 11:19 AM
I actually met Terri Nunn back in 1992. I think she wanted to do me.

She must have a thing for gingers with hair pieces.

tlongII
06-15-2009, 11:28 AM
She must have a thing for gingers with hair pieces.

Maybe, but I think she had a thing for me too.

RollingStoned
06-15-2009, 11:33 AM
http://www.frontrowking.com/images/patBenatar.jpg

ididnotnothat
06-15-2009, 12:43 PM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41GJ9ZWYFAL._AA240_.jpg

mavsfan1000
05-16-2011, 10:55 PM
Definitely Susanna Hoffs of the Bangles. Beautiful voice and an incredible body.
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Nick Manning
05-16-2011, 11:01 PM
I agree with the Hoffs pick

Nick Manning
05-16-2011, 11:06 PM
forgot Tawny Kitaen (sp?) from the Whitesnake days, before she was beating the shit out of Steve Finley

mrsmaalox
05-16-2011, 11:11 PM
Debbie Harry was pretty hot in the early 80's.

symple19
05-17-2011, 06:47 AM
I just skimmed over this, but I don't believe I saw Wendy O from the Plasmatics, which is a travesty

Such an awesome band too

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http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kxhtp6FB4Y1qap72po1_500.jpg

http://images.laferay.com/photos/wendy_o._williams.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_w2gCaKTE6Fk/Sh5OAcVOF5I/AAAAAAAAAPE/g82PGyEFGIY/s320/wowgun.jpg

symple19
05-17-2011, 06:53 AM
Debbie Harry was pretty hot in the early 80's.

yes she was

kneepads FTW

http://blogue.us/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/039_17962debbie-harry-posters.jpg

Wild Cobra
05-17-2011, 07:35 AM
Definitely Susanna Hoffs of the Bangles. Beautiful voice and an incredible body.
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I'd say she's at least in the top 5, especially considering she's 52 now. Here's a picture of her from last year:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7d/SusannaHoffsLiveinSydney2010.jpg/439px-SusannaHoffsLiveinSydney2010.jpg

TheManFromAcme
05-17-2011, 07:45 AM
PAT BENATAR........:eyebrows

Had a thing for her back in the day...

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ohmwrecker
05-17-2011, 08:55 AM
Josie Cotton (she still looks awesome)

http://www.thebossbookingagency.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/josie-cotton-01-201x300.jpg

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTpNgIcBfM6MNjubNP_9elkr01DB6zne SvsZKA1LJtQ7eZTilhIbw

Wild Cobra
05-17-2011, 11:51 AM
PAT BENATAR........:eyebrows

Had a thing for her back in the day...

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See the episode of Charmed she was on? Still looking good in 2003.

Here's a clip:

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Sportcamper
05-17-2011, 12:13 PM
Blondie...

http://bestofbothworldsaz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/debbie-harry.jpg

TheManFromAcme
05-17-2011, 12:31 PM
See the episode of Charmed she was on? Still looking good in 2003.

Here's a clip:

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:tu....she sure does

thanks for the clip

ohmwrecker
05-17-2011, 12:44 PM
Does it bother anyone else when people think Debbie Harry's name is Blondie? It's the name of the band . . . I don't know why but it just bugs the fuck out of me. There's some other things too . . .

Sportcamper
05-17-2011, 12:48 PM
Does it bother anyone else when people think Debbie Harry's name is Blondie? It's the name of the band . . . I don't know why but it just bugs the f out of me. There's some other things too . . .

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSbEBBKNQsorJyKxtJab2s5xVjAC1-ZG7ZtII03YygcyYUHQORPaw&t=1

CosmicCowboy
05-17-2011, 12:52 PM
Pretty close. Hoffs was really cute and she is easily in the discussion. I could easily see her taking the trophy.

There was one point where I definitely considered Nancy Wilson to be one of best looking women I had ever seen but due to IMHO, the shitty output by Heart in the 80's, she fell out of favor with me some point way back when. I thought music was really bad in the 80's.





I don't know how far back your knowledge goes, but do you know Linda Ronstadt? Once upon a time, she was without a doubt the hottest woman in music.

OMFG have you seen a recent picture? :vomit

ohmwrecker
05-17-2011, 12:53 PM
Is that the face you made when you read my post?

symple19
05-17-2011, 01:53 PM
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSbEBBKNQsorJyKxtJab2s5xVjAC1-ZG7ZtII03YygcyYUHQORPaw&t=1

Hey dipshit, before you make fun of somebody else, make sure not to post the exact same picture of Blondie that I did earlier in the thread

symple19
05-17-2011, 01:55 PM
OMFG have you seen a recent picture? :vomit

Dead people can't see

Jimcs50
05-18-2011, 11:55 AM
Hoffs does it for me:

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AmericanPsycho
05-18-2011, 12:26 PM
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/Servonaut/SamFox.jpg

admiralsnackbar
05-18-2011, 12:42 PM
Nobody's mentioned Sinead?

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll320/snackbar50/sinead-o-connor.jpg

And not the hottest evah, but file under talent makes you way hotter:
Kim Deal
Chrissie Hynde

Jimcs50
05-18-2011, 12:47 PM
Nobody's mentioned Sinead?

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll320/snackbar50/sinead-o-connor.jpg




For good reason.

:p:

Soul_Patch
05-18-2011, 12:53 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_WceH2hvdQF8/TPFapdAQaQI/AAAAAAAAAOU/d7B3kSEYYtM/s1600/Nelson%2B-%2BBefore%2BThe%2BRain.gif

DoubtingThomas
05-18-2011, 01:38 PM
http://musicthatjumpedtheshark.com/img/gimg/556.jpg
Nobody else thought she was hot?

TheManFromAcme
05-18-2011, 01:55 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_WceH2hvdQF8/TPFapdAQaQI/AAAAAAAAAOU/d7B3kSEYYtM/s1600/Nelson%2B-%2BBefore%2BThe%2BRain.gif

:lol

mavsfan1000
05-19-2011, 11:20 AM
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mavsfan1000
05-19-2011, 11:20 AM
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mavsfan1000
05-19-2011, 11:20 AM
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Kamala
05-20-2011, 01:54 AM
:music I love her! I saw her @ Municipal Auditorium many many years ago. :depressed

I'm going to say Nancy Wilson & Joan Jett (back then). :lol

I was at that sade show too hehe. I saw a recent video and she looks basically the same!

Mark in Austin
05-20-2011, 03:09 AM
For me it's Hoffs, and it's not even that close. There might have been women with better voices or with better bodies - but for me there was just something special about her - she was the total package.

Susannah Hoffs singing Feel Like Making Love = Win

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mavsfan1000
07-20-2011, 01:15 AM
Debbie Gibson as well. At least for a short time. More cute than hot imo but still worth being mentioned. 8Ms3mJFkSeg

Proxy
07-20-2011, 02:54 AM
You know you're old when....

mavsfan1000
07-21-2011, 10:44 PM
You know you're old when....
I listen to 60's music as well. Does that make me grandpa then? :lol I'm only 28 btw but I appreciate different eras of music. In particular anything that didn't happen within in the last 15 years in music.

slacker77
07-22-2011, 09:57 AM
I listen to 60's music as well. Does that make me grandpa then? :lol I'm only 28 btw but I appreciate different eras of music. In particular anything that didn't happen within in the last 15 years in music.

Same here.My taste in music is pretty diverse.I hardly ever listen to the radio simply because of the shit they play is exactly that..shit.

Proxy
07-22-2011, 07:31 PM
I listen to 60's music as well. Does that make me grandpa then? :lol I'm only 28 btw but I appreciate different eras of music. In particular anything that didn't happen within in the last 15 years in music.

Just poking fun... I listen to a shitload ton of music, but I don't find anything about the 80s female look attractive in the least.

Proxy
07-22-2011, 07:33 PM
Same here.My taste in music is pretty diverse.I hardly ever listen to the radio simply because of the shit they play is exactly that..shit.

you're missing out on the best music if you're avoiding anything in the past 15 years, and if you're assuming whatever comes on the radio is a representation of the past decade and a half, then I will assume that you don't actually listen to music beyond what was popular and on the radio anyways.

There are amazing bands out there right now. They aren't on the radio.

DMC
07-22-2011, 09:29 PM
http://www.olivia-newtonjohn.com/images/photos/thumbs/cfa5a855.jpg


Princess Diana

I thought Pat Benetar was hot. I also liked Stevie Knicks.

http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/t/taylor-dayne/album-tell-it-to-my-heart.jpg



And I wanted to ass rape Cyndi Lauper.

symple19
01-17-2014, 02:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO6xhLtfwW0