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duncan228
06-13-2009, 04:52 PM
Howard: Magic will force finals back to L.A. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=txnbafinalsmagic&prov=st&type=lgns)
By Antonio Gonzalez

Dwight Howard has his bags packed.

Showing off an it’s-not-over-yet smile and a confident attitude, the Orlando Magic center said Saturday that the NBA finals will be headed back to Los Angeles. The Magic are down 3-1 to the Lakers but want to “make history,” starting with Game 5 on Sunday in their final home game of the best season in franchise history.

“You want me to get up here and say the season is going to be over tomorrow? That’s not what anybody should do or anybody should think,” Howard said. “I believe that we’re going to be going back to L.A.”

Magic coach Stan Van Gundy wanted to make sure his team didn’t lose hope.

So he called players in for a rare day-after-game meeting Friday to make sure his team had moved on from its Game 4 meltdown. Van Gundy, who hardly ever gives speeches or motivational pep talks, delivered one at the meeting about Greg LeMond’s come back in the 1989 Tour de France he hopes will light a spark.

“He had come from behind and then taken the lead and then lost it on one of the late stages, and people started to write him off,” Van Gundy said. “And at the end of the stage he looked beaten, and he and his wife were talking when they left, and they asked his wife what he had said.

“And he said, ‘It’ll just make the story all that much better when I come back and win it all.”’

The Magic’s challenge might be just as difficult.

But Van Gundy doesn’t want his team to believe they can win Game 5 unless they first believe they can still win the championship. That would take a record rally - no team in 29 previous tries has won the title after being down 3-1 in the finals.

“I think when you’re in this situation, the key thing is do you still believe you can win the championship?” Van Gundy said. “If you don’t think you can go to L.A. and win the championship, then even though you’re saying one game at a time, it’s pretty easy to let go if things aren’t going well.”

Orlando has had a season filled with rallies.

All-Star point guard Jameer Nelson went out with a shoulder tear in February. The Magic lost on two buzzer-beaters in the playoffs, twice rallied from a series deficit, won a Game 7 in Boston and knocked out MVP LeBron James and the top-seeded Cleveland Cavaliers.

Winning three straight against the best-in-the-west Lakers is another story. Even so, the Magic believe they can be the first team to mount such a comeback.

“Why not?” Magic forward Hedo Turkoglu asked.

It would take a big turnaround.

The Magic had 17 turnovers, missed 15 free throws and fell apart on defense in their Game 4 loss. The Lakers exposed their point guard struggles and clamped down on All-Star Rashard Lewis, who had just six points on 2-of-10 shooting from the field.

Howard’s missed free throws followed by Derek Fisher’s 3-pointer to force overtime left Orlando devastated. The Magic scored only four points in OT, struggling to find their rhythm.

But the past has meant little before with Orlando.

The Magic, a streaky team that can dazzle one minute and disappear the next, have been able to rally from tough losses simply by making baskets if their potent shooters can get hot. Orlando shot a finals-record 62.5 percent - and 75 percent in the first half - in its Game 3 win after missing a chance to take Game 2.

But this is the Magic’s last chance to show their resiliency. There will be no more bounce-back games if they lose, only elimination.

It’s a challenge they welcome.

“We want to try to make history,” Howard said. “We’ve done a lot of things this year as far as a team and individuals and reaching a lot of different goals and breaking records and stuff like that, so why not try and do something else?”

duncan228
06-13-2009, 05:53 PM
Van Gundy insists wheels haven't fallen off Magic bus (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=afp-basketnbafinals&prov=afp&type=lgns)
by Greg Heakes

While another overtime defeat was difficult to swallow, the Orlando Magic have a single-minded approach heading into Sunday's crucial game five of the National Basketball Association finals.

"The guys are in a good frame of mind," Orlando coach Stan Van Gundy said. "We are not mentally weak. We are ready to play and I think we will play a hell of a game."

The Magic are looking to recover from a 101-96 overtime loss in game two which was followed by a 99-91 overtime defeat Thursday which put them in a 3-1 hole in the best-of-seven series.

Orlando faces the daunting task of not only winning Sunday at home but taking games six and seven in Los Angeles.

But Van Gundy says they still believe they can win, despite no team ever having come back from a 3-1 deficit in the finals.

"You've got to start first with the belief you can win the championship," Van Gundy said at Saturday's practice at Amway Arena. "If you don't think you can go to Los Angeles and win the championship then even though you're saying one game at a time it is pretty easy to let go if things aren't going well.

"I tell them it is no different than the approach we've had all year. Our goal from the beginning has been to win the championship but then you approach your job one day, one game, one possession at a time."

Behind the closed doors of the dressing room Van Gundy told the players a story about American cyclist Greg LeMond's come-from-behind win in the 1989 Tour de France.

"People started to write him off. And at the end of a stage he looked beaten and he and his wife were talking and when he left and they asked his wife what he said and he said to her, 'I'll just make the story all that much better when I come back and win it.'"

The wheels haven't fallen off the Magic bus quite yet, but Van Gundy did say he thought the two days off between games gave them an opportunity to "grieve" a bit.

"Yesterday was one of those day where I just wanted to look in everybody's eyes and sort of try to get their heads right," Van Gundy said. "It is good for us right now to sort of have a day and, if you want to say, go through the grieving process and get your head right."

The Lakers have won 14 championships but none since 2002, the last of three straight.

"This one is special because you rarely have the opportunity to get back up to the mountain twice in a career," said Lakers star Kobe Bryant on Saturday. "You have the first run, then you hit rock bottom. Then you build it back up and get back to the top again."

The Los Angeles players have remained the same ferocious, snarling bunch throughout the post-season, cultivating the killer instinct they need to pull this one out.

Los Angeles guard Derek Fisher said there has been a deliberate change in demeanor in the dressing room because of what happened last year when they lost in six games to the Boston Celtics in the championship series.

"There is a realization that even if you are a more talented team there is no guarantee," said Fisher whose sank a pair of late three pointers, including one in overtime to seal the win in game four. "(Last year) we felt as though we couldn't lose no matter who we played.

"So this year we haven't been as jovial. Until we win this fourth game it is too close to last year for us to feel as though we have won before we've won.

"We don't want to go through that feeling again of getting to the doorstep and not being strong enough and willing to stick out our hand and twist the knob and walk through it.

"We are not going to just stand in front of the door this time. That's where the serious nature is coming from."

The 13-year NBA veteran says getting back to the finals for the first time in seven years has energized his game.

"I have an opportunity to win a fourth championship, but it feels like the first time," Fisher said. "It is so far removed from 2002 and what I have been through personally.

"There are a lot of younger guys on our team who were in middle school when we were winning championships in 2000, 2001 and 2002.

"It feels new again and that's why I am laying everything that I possibly have out there to help this team."

Amuseddaysleeper
06-13-2009, 05:57 PM
The Lakers are probably the softest "champion" of the decade

vander
06-13-2009, 06:10 PM
I'm really starting to like these Magic, I love the way they play offense, lots of ball movement, taking whatever shot the D gives them, I especially like Turkoglu when he plays point forward and manages to beat defenders that are much more athletic then him.

which makes this series that I didn't expect to watch or care about in the least, intriguing and heartbreaking. the Magic could easily, or rather, SHOULD be up 3-1
:depressed

oh well, the Magic will be back, and Kobe is an all time great, he needed to get his 4th ring.
it's just the rest of that Laker team I hate so much, the thought of Derick Fisher getting another ring, :bang and Phil Jackson, :bang and that punk Sasha Vujacic, :bang that other punk Jordan Farmar :bang and that stolen Gasol :bang

Amaso
06-13-2009, 06:44 PM
The Lakers are probably the softest "champion" of the decade

The Lakers aren't soft this year. They no longer play Vujacic and Radmanovich all those minutes and don't have to rely on Pau to play the Center position for 40+ minutes a night.

ffadicted
06-13-2009, 07:31 PM
The Lakers aren't soft this year. They no longer play Vujacic and Radmanovich all those minutes and don't have to rely on Pau to play the Center position for 40+ minutes a night.

Andrew Bynum is soft too

antimvp
06-13-2009, 07:33 PM
....and then the lakers will get all the calls when it counts and win anyway

DeadlyDynasty
06-13-2009, 08:49 PM
Along with team of the decade...:lol
+1, one more win and we've solidified that:toast

flipcritic
06-13-2009, 10:26 PM
Enough crap about how the Lakers are soft. They're in the finals and on the verge of winning it. They deserve respect for being up so give it to them.

I admire SVG and Dwight for not giving up, and I'll be rooting for them to prove me wrong. But at this point, their chances are slim to none.

Ghazi
06-13-2009, 10:44 PM
Eh Mavs of '06 were probably softer than the '09 Lakers. That championship Mavs team was entirely perimeter oriented and wasn't as good defensively as the Lakers.

Trainwreck2100
06-13-2009, 10:46 PM
i doubt the lakers give a fuck about next game

KSeal
06-13-2009, 10:52 PM
i doubt the lakers give a fuck about next game

Yeah, just a chance to win an NBA title and be the champs, no reason to give a fuck.

BUMP
06-13-2009, 11:30 PM
theyre probably done but this is the perfect attitude to have

Trainwreck2100
06-13-2009, 11:31 PM
Yeah, just a chance to win an NBA title and be the champs, no reason to give a fuck.

they already know they can beat this team whenever the fuck they want. Kobe won't lose the photo op of winning it at home

sonic21
06-13-2009, 11:36 PM
Magic will win Game 5.
Rashard Lewis was quiet as hell, and I expect the magic to get super blown home cooking.

I expect a magic blowout with the lakers blowing them out in game 6

Jacob1983
06-13-2009, 11:52 PM
The Magic has given the championship to the Lakers. If the Magic had played even a little better than they did in games 2 and 4, the Magic would probably have a 3-1 lead.

JoeTait75
06-13-2009, 11:59 PM
I'm thinking tomorrow will go down like Game 5 in 2000, when the Lake Show mailed it in against Indiana and got beat by 33. Then they'll wrap it up in Los Angeles.

KSeal
06-14-2009, 12:00 AM
they already know they can beat this team whenever the fuck they want. Kobe won't lose the photo op of winning it at home

I kind of see what you're saying but the Magic are capable of shooting THE BEST FG PERCENTAGE IN A NBA FINALS GAME EVER. There is no way in hell you go into game five ho hum with a team that has proven they can shot 75% in a half and 63% for a game. I expect this game 5 to be just like game 6 in Denver. I don't think the Lakers can beat the Magic whenever the fuck they want, look how freakishly close the last three games have been, Magic could be sitting pretty right now if they weren't morons.

Trainwreck2100
06-14-2009, 12:22 AM
I kind of see what you're saying but the Magic are capable of shooting THE BEST FG PERCENTAGE IN A NBA FINALS GAME EVER. There is no way in hell you go into game five ho hum with a team that has proven they can shot 75% in a half and 63% for a game. I expect this game 5 to be just like game 6 in Denver. I don't think the Lakers can beat the Magic whenever the fuck they want, look how freakishly close the last three games have been, Magic could be sitting pretty right now if they weren't morons.

Unfortunately they are morons and won't magically grow a brain and make this a series. The Lakers know this

KSeal
06-14-2009, 12:57 AM
Unfortunately they are morons and won't magically grow a brain and make this a series. The Lakers know this

If any one team could magically grow a brain it would be the magic. But you're right, they probably are done but still, a team that can get as hot as they can still scares me.

NBAfan83
06-14-2009, 01:00 AM
I don't see how magic wins this, I mean Dwight already played amazing in game four, defensively, 21 rebs and 9 blocks? how much more can he do?

As for offensively, if he hasn't figured out in 4 games how to score on the lakers, I don't think he will be able to now. It's not like he can will his freethrows to go in, or learn post moves in a few days.

iggypop123
06-14-2009, 01:26 AM
Magic will win Game 5.
Rashard Lewis was quiet as hell, and I expect the magic to get super blown home cooking.

I expect a magic blowout with the lakers blowing them out in game 6

damn how much more help do they need. they had a 17 ft advantage in the 4th!

JoeTait75
06-14-2009, 01:38 AM
I don't see how magic wins this, I mean Dwight already played amazing in game four, defensively, 21 rebs and 9 blocks? how much more can he do?

Get 21 more rebounds and 9 more blocks, while cutting down on his turnovers and improving his free-throw percentage? Dewey can play better than he did on Thursday.

Indazone
06-14-2009, 11:41 AM
Nope, the Magic are done when Van Gundy decides to play Nelson the entire game benching Alston. :lol