"Non-apology Apology" Fail

[PixelPusher]

The non-apology apology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-apology_apology) is the most generous rhetorical dodge our society still grants public figures, in spite of it's robotic disingenuousness - you just copy/paste the standard form into a sheet of paper and read aloud on TV or send out as a press release. This is apparently just too complicated a process for this douchebag.



http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/06/14/2009-06-14_pol_gorilla_is_related_to_first_lady.html

A prominent South Carolina Republican killed his Facebook page Sunday after being caught likening the First Lady to an escaped gorilla.

Commenting on a report posted to Facebook about a gorilla escape at a zoo in Columbia, S.C., Friday, longtime GOP activist Rusty DePass wrote, "I'm sure it's just one of Michelle's ancestors - probably harmless."

Busted by South Carolina political blogger Will Folks on his FITNEWS blog, DePass told WIS-TV in Columbia, "I am as sorry as I can be if I offended anyone. The comment was clearly in jest."

Then he added, "The comment was hers, not mine," claiming Michelle Obama made a recent remark about humans descending from apes. The Daily News could find no such comment.

[angel_luv]

I thought this was going to be about Mark Cuban. :lol

[Bender]

you would think politicians would THINK before posting something (or emailing something) for the world to see, but I guess not...

[FaithInOne]

ESCAPED GORILLA! LOL

Pastor Manning you sonofabitch.

[boutons_deux]

Blacks = monkeys, apes, jungle bunnies?

The Repug Aryan party shows its true "color". :lol

And, shockingly, (old or new) South Carolina? Generalizations welcome! :)

[FaithInOne]

He meant evolution.

You racists need to quit assuming racists thoughts because of your racism.


:hat

/sarcasm, c'mon guys

[ChumpDumper]

When did Michelle Obama ever say anything about evolution?

[Oh, Gee!!]

He meant evolution.

that must be it. he was mocking her for her stance on evolution.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

http://www.tradebit.com/usr/cellopro/pub/9001/Violin.jpg

[PixelPusher]

http://www.tradebit.com/usr/cellopro/pub/9001/Violin.jpg

Is that supposed to be the world's most average-sized violin?

[boutons_deux]

"He meant evolution."

Fuck what he meant.

He said MO was descended from (related to) a live, contemporary gorilla. iow, a gorilla as the parent of MO. No evolution involved.

blacks as monkeys/jungle bunnies is a well-known, ancient insult.

All the Aryan bubbas/Christian supremacists he was pandering to know EXACTLY what he meant.

[DarrinS]

Do a Google image search of


+Bush +chimp



:sleep

[ChumpDumper]

Did those people pretend that they were talking about Bush's stated stance on evolution?

[PixelPusher]

Do a Google image search of


+Bush +chimp



:sleep

How is that equivalent to Michelle Obama? I'm sure you'll have a good answer, because we all know how much you love to go on and on about how unfair "moral equivalence" is.

[SnakeBoy]

How old was the gorilla?

[ploto]

The worst part is any apology that says, "I'm sorry IF..." A proper apology is "I'm sorry THAT I ..."

[FaithInOne]

nah everyone does that on a press release

[Viva Las Espuelas]

hell. he should've just commented on a baseball player having relations with her underaged daughter. the left normally never cares about that

[ChumpDumper]

hell. he should've just commented on a baseball player having relations with her underaged daughter. the left normally never cares about thatNeither does the right.

[SnakeBoy]

Neither does the right.

You must not be keeping up with current events Chump. It's our #1 issue.

[EVAY]

No, no, no. Look you Republican apologists!!!! This is OUTRAGEOUS in the extreme. Forget the lame comparisons to late night idiots or anything else. Do you all really intend to limit the Republican Party to the old confederate states in perpetuity?!? This is EXACTLY the kind of thing that makes reasonable people just cringe at the notion of identifying with the current Republican Party.

Come,on, now. MAN UP!! Call this racist out for what it is!! Say NO! This guy is not any kind of republican! Tell all of us that you REJECT that! Please!

[Marcus Bryant]

Man, that's pretty fucking stupid. What's even more stupid is attempting to defend it.

Also not surprising that originated out of South Carolina.

[boutons_deux]

pitbull bitch's "base" of Southern Repug Aryan/"Christian"/in-bred supremacists strikes again:

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/15/racist-image-eyes/

[PixelPusher]

pitbull bitch's "base" of Southern Repug Aryan/"Christian"/in-bred supremacists strikes again:

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/15/racist-image-eyes/



http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/44presidents1.jpg

Nashville Is Talking asked Goforth about the e-mail:

When I asked her if she understood the controversial nature of the photo, Goforth would only say she felt very bad about accidentally sending it to the wrong list. When I gave her a second chance to address the controversial nature of the email, she again repeated that she only felt bad about sending it to the wrong list of people.

“I went on the wrong email and I inadvertently hit the wrong button,” Goforth told NIT. “I’m very sick about it, and it’s one of those things I can’t change or take back.”

lol, what the hell? "I'm sorry you found out I was a racist"

Jonah Goldberg is going to require back surgery after all the god-awful contortions he'll have to pull trying to explain why she's actually a liberal.

[jman3000]

Racism is an exclusive trait of the left. At least that's what I've been hearing.

You're a little late to the party.

[PixelPusher]

Racism is an exclusive trait of the left. At least that's what I've been hearing.

You're a little late to the party.

Yeah, they finally got hip to one of the greatest left-wing conspiracies evah! About 50 years ago, we picked out the most cloistered, racist, xenophobic white liberals and send them forth to register as life-long Republicans. We even let the GOP think it was all their idea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy).

[DarrinS]

If I call Dirk Nowitzki a Neanderthal, I'm not being racist.

If I say the same thing about Patrick Ewing? Different story.

Strange.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

If I call Dirk Nowitzki a Neanderthal, I'm not being racist.

If I say the same thing about Patrick Ewing? Different story.

Strange.

this whole racism song and dance is pretty stupid.

hell it's even called the National Association for the Advancement of COLORED People.

:lmao
just laughable. every cotton pickin' moment of it.

[jman3000]

When did you say Ewing looked like a caveman and when did people call you a racist for it?

Nobody who calls Sam Cassell an alien gets accused of being a racist. Nobody gets called a racist for saying Bruce looks like Mr. Potato Head. Just because you're black doesn't mean you can't be made fun of... although I think monkey/gorilla references are the exception due to the historical implications.

Patrick Ewing is one ugly mofo.

[PixelPusher]

So I told one of my buddies "stop being such a stupid bitch", and he laughed it off.

Then later on when I said the same thing to my wife? Different story.

Strange.

[jman3000]

If somebody called Ewing a Nazi people would kinda be like "huh?", but if somebody called Nowitzki a Nazi it'd be a whole different story.

[DarrinS]

this whole racism song and dance is pretty stupid.

hell it's even called the National Association for the Advancement of COLORED People.

:lmao
just laughable. every cotton pickin' moment of it.



Don't get me wrong, what the guy said on his Facebook is inexcusable, but I just wish the left were equal opportunists when it comes to racism, sexism, etc.


Don Imus: "Nappy headed ho's". --> Fired

Letterman: "Slutty flight attendant look." "Daughter got knocked up by Alex Rodrigues" --> Lame apology


Heck, just look what Maher said the other day when defending Letterman's comments...

“…that’s right, he’s 62 years old, he’s gonna fuck her right there on stage…it would be very wise to keep her, very wise, yes. You know, I’d worry a little more about the 18-year old hockey players who knock up your daughters.”


wow, just wow

[DarrinS]

.. although I think monkey/gorilla references are the exception due to the historical implications.


I know, but when did this come into being?


Also, why do politicians have Facebook accounts and MySpace, and Twitter and all that other dumbass social networking bullshit?

Every time I hear that some politician is "Twittering", I literally cringe.

[Oh, Gee!!]

I know, but when did this come into being?

the early 1900's in cartoons

[clambake]

lets be honest......she'd be invisible if she didn't look like a slutty flight attendant.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

this should be interesting

NEW YORK (CNN) – Despite an apology Monday night from David Letterman, a protest rally outside of Letterman's Ed Sullivan Theater in New York will still go on as planned Tuesday, according to its organizer.
Political documentarian and conservative radio talk show host, John Ziegler, tells CNN that the point of the rally is to, "Raise awareness and get some sort of accountability."
He says that Letterman's apology, "Would have been fine had it come six days ago. This apology came seven days after the fact and his first apology was completely self serving." He added, "We think our voices should still be heard."
The protest is scheduled to take place as Letterman begins taping Tuesday's program. The group is angry over a joke the talk show host told related to the family of Sarah Palin.
Ziegler could not confirm how many of the more than 2,000 people he originally indicated would be attending had canceled. The rally's page on Facebook has approximately 200 confirmed guests. 1,383 have declined the invitation since the Letterman apology.
A significant number of the people who are attending list their residence as out of state.
Ziegler, who produced "Media Malpractice: How Obama Got Elected and Palin was Targeted" is also promoting his upcoming film, "Blocking the Path to 9/11."

[jman3000]

I know, but when did this come into being?


Also, why do politicians have Facebook accounts and MySpace, and Twitter and all that other dumbass social networking bullshit?

Every time I hear that some politician is "Twittering", I literally cringe.

Umm for a long while now. It's just that when it was used 30 years ago it wasn't seen as wrong because a lot more people looked down at blacks than now.

It's just a way to get their message out. Obama did such a good job of utilizing it that everybody is jumping on board. During the campaign I heard Beck say that Twitter was useless, that the company couldn't make any money, that it's going nowhere, and that this is how they're gonna keep track of all of us... then it gets huge, everybody is using it... and what do you know... he even has a twitter now.

I think Senator Grissley had the best twitter so far.

[PixelPusher]

Also, why do politicians have Facebook accounts and MySpace, and Twitter and all that other dumbass social networking bullshit?

Every time I hear that some politician is "Twittering", I literally cringe.

Michael Steele and few other are pushing the idea that the GOP lost because the left "out-teched" them in the '08 elections.

[jman3000]

this should be interesting

NEW YORK (CNN) – Despite an apology Monday night from David Letterman, a protest rally outside of Letterman's Ed Sullivan Theater in New York will still go on as planned Tuesday, according to its organizer.
Political documentarian and conservative radio talk show host, John Ziegler, tells CNN that the point of the rally is to, "Raise awareness and get some sort of accountability."
He says that Letterman's apology, "Would have been fine had it come six days ago. This apology came seven days after the fact and his first apology was completely self serving." He added, "We think our voices should still be heard."
The protest is scheduled to take place as Letterman begins taping Tuesday's program. The group is angry over a joke the talk show host told related to the family of Sarah Palin.
Ziegler could not confirm how many of the more than 2,000 people he originally indicated would be attending had canceled. The rally's page on Facebook has approximately 200 confirmed guests. 1,383 have declined the invitation since the Letterman apology.
A significant number of the people who are attending list their residence as out of state.
Ziegler, who produced "Media Malpractice: How Obama Got Elected and Palin was Targeted" is also promoting his upcoming film, "Blocking the Path to 9/11."

That doesn't sound interesting at all.

Nothing like people getting behind a radio host who was fired for throwing around n-bombs like it was going out of style.

[jman3000]

Michael Steele and few other are pushing the idea that the GOP lost because the left "out-teched" them in the '08 elections.

His "Republican Hat" routine is going to revolutionize the way people view the GOP. It's how he rolls.

[jman3000]

Funny that that racist douche bag would show up in this conversation. :lol

[Johnson]

hell it's even called the National Association for the Advancement of COLORED People.
is that really what it stands for? I was told it was Negroes Are Actually Colored Polacks

[Viva Las Espuelas]

is that really what it stands for? I was told it was Negroes Are Actually Colored Polacks
i remember howard stern saying that.

[Bender]

thats an old joke, from my high school days

[ploto]

I'm a woman and I get tired of women crying sexism. He did not make the joke about her daughter for being a woman but for being a pregnant, unwed teenage daughter of a woman who preached abstinence.

If someone made a joke about Levi getting some girl pregnant would there be the same firestorm? If not, then that is really sexism against him based soley upon gender.

Levi was in town for the NBA game- better be careful, he might knock up a cheerleader during halftime. Does that make you so enraged?

[ChumpDumper]

Don't get me wrong, what the guy said on his Facebook is inexcusable, but I just wish the left were equal opportunists when it comes to racism, sexism, etc.


Don Imus: "Nappy headed ho's". --> Fired

Letterman: "Slutty flight attendant look." "Daughter got knocked up by Alex Rodrigues" --> Lame apology


Heck, just look what Maher said the other day when defending Letterman's comments...

“…that’s right, he’s 62 years old, he’s gonna fuck her right there on stage…it would be very wise to keep her, very wise, yes. You know, I’d worry a little more about the 18-year old hockey players who knock up your daughters.”


wow, just wowSo now we shouldn't like Maher?

Make up your fucking mind.

[DarrinS]

So now we shouldn't like Maher?

Make up your fucking mind.


Maher is a douche -- always has been -- always will be.

The only thing I pointed out the other day was that even an Obama nut-hugger like Maher is getting sick of seeing Obama on TV.

[Bender]

DarrinS never said he liked maher from what I remember

[ChumpDumper]

He likes anyone who idly bitches about Obama.

[SnakeBoy]

I'm a woman and I get tired of women crying sexism. He did not make the joke about her daughter for being a woman but for being a pregnant, unwed teenage daughter of a woman who preached abstinence.

If someone made a joke about Levi getting some girl pregnant would there be the same firestorm? If not, then that is really sexism against him based soley upon gender.

Levi was in town for the NBA game- better be careful, he might knock up a cheerleader during halftime. Does that make you so enraged?

:rolleyes Dumb bitch, go clean something!

[FaithInOne]

If Sam Cassel was a Mexican...

:lmao

[FaithInOne]

lets be honest......she'd be invisible if she didn't look like a slutty flight attendant.

Is this why so much attention is placed on her by the left (because they are threatened), because you think she looks like a ****** ******** *tten****?

[ChumpDumper]

Actually, I don't think any of us would have heard of this joke had Palin not bitched about it.

[jman3000]

God damn you try too hard to be funny.

[DarrinS]

Actually, I don't think any of us would have heard of this joke had Palin not bitched about it.


To be fair, she wasn't the first one to bitch about it.


I seem to recall there were jokes about the Bush kids, but they were never about getting knocked up by a professional athlete.


It's just in bad taste and not funny. If you want to joke about Palin, just talk about how gosh darn smart she is.

[ChumpDumper]

To be fair, she wasn't the first one to bitch about it.What, her n-word sycophant got upset first?



I seem to recall there were jokes about the Bush kids, but they were never about getting knocked up by a professional athlete.So is it the knocking up part or the professional athlete part you don't like?



It's just in bad taste and not funny. If you want to joke about Palin, just talk about how gosh darn smart she is.There oughta be a law!

[jman3000]

I seem to recall there were jokes about the Bush kids, but they were never about getting knocked up by a professional athlete.
.

If they had gotten knocked up there probably would have been. The jokes on them were mainly party jokes. That stems from the fact that they were out getting drunk in their teens.

[ChumpDumper]

No shit. It's not Lettermen's fault that she got knocked up. Take care of your own mess.

[DarrinS]

No shit. It's not Lettermen's fault that she got knocked up. Take care of your own mess.


So, now Obama's deceased mother is fair game?


See what I mean?

[ChumpDumper]

So, now Obama's deceased mother is fair game?Her having sex with a professional athlete while dead doesn't strike me as particularly funny. Not Letterman funny.



See what I mean?As usual, no.

[PixelPusher]

So, now Obama's deceased mother is fair game?


See what I mean?

You have some hilarious "mom dies of cancer" jokes you'd like to share with us?

[Winehole23]

It's a free country. Everybody is fair game. Particularly for comedians.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

You have some hilarious "mom dies of cancer" jokes you'd like to share with us?
what an idiot.

[DarrinS]

No shit. It's not Lettermen's fault that she got knocked up. Take care of your own mess.



Her having sex with a professional athlete while dead doesn't strike me as particularly funny.



Obama's mother got knocked up as a teenager, you dimwit.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Her having sex with a professional athlete while dead doesn't strike me as particularly funny. Not Letterman funny.


As usual, no.


what an idiot.

[ChumpDumper]

It's a free country. Everybody is fair game. Particularly for comedians.No shit.

It's jokes.

I am amused by the new butthurt Republicans.

[PixelPusher]

what an idiot.

Yes, you'd would have to be an idiot to think late night comedians would joke about that.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Yes, you'd would have to be an idiot to think late night comedians would joke about that.
urine idiot for not seeing parallels.

[ChumpDumper]

Obama's mother got knocked up as a teenager, you dimwit.And last I heard she was dead.

And her mother wasn't running for national office. Had that happened back then, her mother would have dropped out of the race in shame.

Look how far we've come.

You really need the joke deconstructed for you?

[DarrinS]

You have some hilarious "mom dies of cancer" jokes you'd like to share with us?


Any joke about that would obviously be crossing the line of bad taste.

As is a joke about a 14 y.o. girl getting violated in the middle of Yankee stadium.

[ChumpDumper]

Any joke about that would obviously be crossing the line of bad taste.

As is a joke about a 14 y.o. girl getting violated in the middle of Yankee stadium.:lol

Yeah, it was about the 14 year old.

Because she was obviously the sexually active one.

It's nice that you can sink to the same level of disingenuousness as Palin.

Rape!

We're against rape!

[DarrinS]

And last I heard she was dead.

And her mother wasn't running for national office. Had that happened back then, her mother would have dropped out of the race in shame.

Look how far we've come.

You really need the joke deconstructed for you?


Are you this dumb on purpose?


Let's use a different hypothetical (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypothetical). Say Obama had a teenage daughter that was pregnant out of wedlock. Would you think that same joke about her would be ok?

[PixelPusher]

Obama's mother got knocked up as a teenager, you dimwit.

Ok, you have some hilarious jokes about Obama's mom getting knocked up as a teenager you'd like to share with us? I'm sure it would get a chuckle, because Obama's grandmother was a politician who traded on her Christian-Conservative, salt-of-the-earth, old-fashioned family values image, right?

[ChumpDumper]

Are you this dumb on purpose?I know you are this dumb on purpose.



Let's use a different hypothetical (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypothetical). Say Obama had a teenage daughter that was pregnant out of wedlock. Would you think that same joke about her would be ok?At the age of consent? Sure.

They're jokes.

Damn your butt must hurt.

[DarrinS]

Ok, you have some hilarious jokes about Obama's mom getting knocked up as a teenager you'd like to share with us? I'm sure it would get a chuckle, because Obama's grandmother was a politician who traded on her Christian-Conservative, salt-of-the-earth, old-fashioned family values image, right?


Why do you and DumpOnChump keep bringing up Obama's grandmother?

[Winehole23]

Maybe because you brought her up, D?

[ChumpDumper]

Why do you and DumpOnChump keep bringing up Obama's grandmother?:lmao

Sorry we tried to make your whiny hypothetical relevant.

[George Gervin's Afro]

This is yet another episode of phony outrage by the right. Have any of you on the right ever heard of the story about the boy who cried wolf?

[DarrinS]

Letterman never crossed any line. I guess that's why he's bending over backward to apologize.

[jman3000]

Why wouldn't it be? Public figures have to assume they're gonna be made fun of if they, or anybody close to them does something that is seen as out of the ordinary.

PT's get made fun of. Don't you remember when Britney Spears' sister got prego at 16? Everybody was making fun of her.

[ChumpDumper]

Letterman never crossed any line. I guess that's why he's bending over backward to apologize.He started losing money because of phony outrage from phonies.

Don't ever become a public figure, Darrin -- you're too much of a pussy.

[DarrinS]

Maybe because you brought her up, D?

How so?

I brought up his mother as an example of ANY FUCKING FAMILY MEMBER.

[DarrinS]

He started losing money because of phony outrage from phonies.

Don't ever become a public figure, Darrin -- you're too much of a pussy.


You are what you eat, dickhead.

[ChumpDumper]

How so?

I brought up his mother as an example of ANY FUCKING FAMILY MEMBER.And we said it was fair game.

-- though not funny in that your hypothetical jokes wouldn't have made much sense.

[jman3000]

Carter's brother was never made fun of. Clinton's brother was never made fun of. Bush's daughters were never made fun of.

It's only natural to assume that Palin's daughter should never be made fun of.

[ChumpDumper]

You are what you eat, dickhead.:lol

Now that's funny!

[jman3000]

:lol

Now that's funny!

If only he could work in Obama's grandmother somehow. Then he'd be cooking with fire.

[PixelPusher]

Carter's brother was never made fun of. Clinton's brother was never made fun of. Clinton's daugher was never made fun of. Bush's daughters were never made fun of.

It's only natural to assume that Palin's daughter should never be made fun of.
forgot one. fixed.

[DarrinS]

I think letterman should go for the retarded baby jokes next.

[ChumpDumper]

If only he could work in Obama's grandmother somehow. Then he'd be cooking with fire.He's too busy having sex with her as a pro athlete.

[Winehole23]

I brought up his mother as an example of ANY FUCKING FAMILY MEMBER.Yes, you did. That was my point. That was why other posters seized on it: because you brought it up.

It is a little funny that you have demanded an explanation for others' logical and straightforward replies to you. When you got the explanation, you tried to claim there was some subtler, abstract point that we all missed.

What was that point, BTW? That comedians shouldn't be allowed to be tacky? That they should answer to tact and *political correctness*?

[DarrinS]

Yes, you did. That was my point. That was why other posters seized on it: because you brought it up.

It is a little funny that you have demanded an explanation for others' logical and straightforward replies to you. When you got the explanation, you tried to claim there was some subtler, abstract point that we all missed.

What was that point, BTW? That comedians shouldn't be allowed to be tacky? That they should answer to tact and *political correctness*?


Not that it's that important, but mother <> grandmother.

As to your other points, sure, all things are fair game, but the comedian must be willing to take the heat if he can dish it out.

Anyone remember why Bill Maher's show, Politically Incorrect, was taken off ABC?

[ChumpDumper]

Not that it's that important, but mother <> grandmother.According to you, it is.
How so?

I brought up his mother as an example of ANY FUCKING FAMILY MEMBER.


As to your other points, sure, all things are fair game, but the comedian must be willing to take the heat if he can dish it out.

Anyone remember why Bill Maher's show, Politically Incorrect, was taken off ABC?So you really don't have a problem with the jokes?

[Winehole23]

Anyone remember why Bill Maher's show, Politically Incorrect, was taken off ABC?Because he suggested that hijacking airliners and crashing them into buildings might require a modicum of physical courage?

BTW, Darrin, was Maher wrong about that?

[DarrinS]

Because he suggested that hijacking airliners and crashing them into buildings might require a modicum of physical courage?

BTW, Darrin, was Maher wrong about that?


I don't disagree, but that's not all he said.




"We have been the cowards, lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away. That's cowardly. Staying in the airplane when it hits the building, say what you want about it, it's not cowardly"

[DarrinS]

According to you, it is.

This is where all this grandmother nonsense came up.


Ok, you have some hilarious jokes about Obama's mom getting knocked up as a teenager you'd like to share with us? I'm sure it would get a chuckle, because Obama's grandmother was a politician who traded on her Christian-Conservative, salt-of-the-earth, old-fashioned family values image, right?


I won't address this again. It's getting old.

[ChumpDumper]

This is where all this grandmother nonsense came up.

I won't address this again. It's getting old.Again, sorry your "joke" wasn't relevant.

Or funny.

We tried.

How did you get Obama's mom buy your story about playing pro ball?

[Marcus Bryant]

Another unfortunate part of American politics. Never mind actually discussing the "issues" (of course, what passes for a public discussion of the issues in the US consists of uninformed mayonnaise eaters confirming their ignorance) and critiquing the arguments you disagree with. Nay, we must thoroughly demonize political opponents beyond all recognition.

Character assassination and family member attacks of presidents are nothing new. Those go back to the start of the Republic. If someone enters the arena, they should be prepared for that sort of thing. Still, that's a rather lousy justification.

[Ignignokt]

Yes, you did. That was my point. That was why other posters seized on it: because you brought it up.

It is a little funny that you have demanded an explanation for others' logical and straightforward replies to you. When you got the explanation, you tried to claim there was some subtler, abstract point that we all missed.

What was that point, BTW? That comedians shouldn't be allowed to be tacky? That they should answer to tact and *political correctness*?

Did darrin joke about Obamas mother?

[Winehole23]

"We have been the cowards, lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away. That's cowardly. Staying in the airplane when it hits the building, say what you want about it, it's not cowardly"And then Maher's network showed it's pussillanimity by yielding to the hysterical herd and firing Maher for his controversial (but not patently false) observation, rather than defending Maher and the uber-American tradition of free expression.

Your point?

[Winehole23]

Did darrin joke about Obamas mother?He just threatened to. Some posters egged him on. Unfortunately, darrin had nothing funny in the tank.

[DarrinS]

Another unfortunate part of American politics. Never mind actually discussing the "issues" (of course, what passes for a public discussion of the issues in the US consists of uninformed mayonnaise eaters confirming their ignorance) and critiquing the arguments you disagree with. Nay, we must thoroughly demonize political opponents beyond all recognition.

Character assassination and family member attacks of presidents are nothing new. Those go back to the start of the Republic. If someone enters the arena, they should be prepared for that sort of thing. Still, that's a rather lousy justification.



You articulated what I could not.

[PEP]

I'll take the gorilla for 50 Alex.

[Ignignokt]

He just threatened to. Some posters egged him on. Unfortunately, darrin had nothing funny in the tank.


He didn't threaten anything, if anything he responded to CHumps logic that bristol deserves to be humiliated because she got knocked up.

Darrin implied the same thing Obama implied, and that's that its not good to do such thing and attacking single mothers for political benefit is tackless.

Why can't you understand something simple like that, rather than sink into the whole red vs blue mud fight?

[Trainwreck2100]

Carter's brother was never made fun of. Clinton's brother was never made fun of. Bush's daughters were never made fun of.

It's only natural to assume that Palin's daughter should never be made fun of.

Bullshit, Bristol is putting herself in the spotlight as well

http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2009/05/bristolpalin001.jpg

Really "if girls realized the consequences of sex nobody would be having it." You fucking knew the consequences of sex and it didn't stop you from opening your legs


And Bush's daughters were made fun of when they kept getting caught in bars in Austin. and Cintons daughter was ugly, so nobody made fun of her because thats akin to beating up a retard.

[jman3000]

Bullshit, Bristol is putting herself in the spotlight as well

http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2009/05/bristolpalin001.jpg

Really "if girls realized the consequences of sex nobody would be having it." You fucking knew the consequences of sex and it didn't stop you from opening your legs


And Bush's daughters were made fun of when they kept getting caught in bars in Austin. and Cintons daughter was ugly, so nobody made fun of her because thats akin to beating up a retard.

Apparently your sarcasm detector doesn't work past 3 AM.

[Winehole23]

He didn't threaten anything, if anything he responded to CHumps logic that bristol deserves to be humiliated because she got knocked up. Agree that Darrin didn't *threaten* anything (attempted humorous overreading on my part), disagree with your own overreading of CD. He didn't argue that BP *deserved* anything IMO, just that the joke on her had a logical basis.


Darrin implied the same thing Obama implied, and that's that its not good to do such thing and attacking single mothers for political benefit is tacklessTactless? Sure. Politics is tacky. I have no problem with social condemnation of the tackiness.