T-Mac to the Knicks?

[Indazone]

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NBA Trade Rumor: Tracy McGrady to the Knicks (http://dimemag.com/2009/06/nba-trade-rumor-tracy-mcgrady-to-the-knicks/)
dimemag.com — This isn’t going to fly as an alternative to LeBron for the New York faithful. But there’s a chance that the Knicks - who are always assumed to be willing to exceed the luxury tax - would like to bring in Tracy McGrady as a one-year mercenary.

http://ballhype.com/story/nba_trade_rumor_tracy_mcgrady_to_the_knicks/

[Indazone]

What the Rockets would get.

The Knicks could put together a package that would save the Rockets some money and include a veteran shooting guard with an expiring contract — Larry Hughes ($13.6M) — along with Cuttino Mobley’s 80-percent insured $9.5M deal. Mobley could then officially retire with the team that drafted him (and originally knew about his heart condition). Call it full circle.

[Artest93]

I don't know what to do other than laugh my ass off

[Artest93]

Mcgrady's gonna end up with Sacramento

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO......New York was supposed to take PHoenix's sloppy seconds (Nash)!!!

[Artest93]

If the Rockets traded Mcgrady for Cuttino Mobley and Larry Hughes, I'd think I would become a Laker fan

[Indazone]

^ Absolutely, this is a terrible trade. Hughes and Mobley? Ugh

Cat isn't even medically cleared to play anymore. He's officially done.

[Chillen]

The Rockets could have won the 2009 NBA title if Yao and Mcgrady were healthy. Artest, Scola, Battier and Brooks were all playing well enough to win it all. Almost beat the Lakers without them. Shame. Tough decision for Houston...how do you get equal value on a risky injury prone T-mac.

[NewcastleKEG]

The Rockets could have won the 2009 NBA title if Yao and Mcgrady were healthy. Artest, Scola, Battier and Brooks were all playing well enough to win it all. Almost beat the Lakers without them. Shame. Tough decision for Houston...how do you get equal value on a risky injury prone T-mac.
Equal is out of the question but that trade offer is ridiculous.

[iggypop123]

trade sounds good. its as good as its going to get for them and the knicks are good fit for t-mac

[TDMVPDPOY]

the rockets should be askin for wilson or curry part of the deal

rockets need a backup center or pf.....

[VivaPopovich]

what the knicks need is a post player, their already full of perimeter players.

[Trainwreck2100]

what the knicks need is a post player, their already full of perimeter players.

thats cause their coach's philosophy is run, shoot, run some more.

Why would the rockets fans be so butthurt, he's not going to last the full season anyway

[Muser]

Larry Hughes lmao.

[Rogue]

This trade doesn't make any sense to either team, just like the thread itself. The source of this rumor seems reliable, at least it has an original web page which declares its origin was not the retarded brain of the idiot that started this pathetic thread.

this proposal sounds more realistic if the Knicks put in their lottery pick, as many other teams have also shown their willingness to sell their picks after considering the attendants of draft this year are even more average than the past two years. And the Rockets have claimed for more than one time that they are trying to buy some picks, so it's not a big surprise the two teams found each other. Hughes and Cat are both done for their career with ternimal injuries/diseases, while T-Mac will have half a season to play in 09-10 and probably will re-sign with Knicks at a much cheaper prize after his current contract expires. Plus NY's basketball market needs a superstar to keep hot, T-Mac is just an ideal stinker to fill this hole even though his career is already in the dusk. Lebron Crab will surely gain some rings for NY, so T-Mac will also get his rings under the shelter of Lebron, which will make T-Mac pretty glad to play for Knicks.

[Artest93]

Another rumor goin around is T-Mac to the Kings for Kevin Martin, plus fillers

[Thunder Dan]

Larry Hughes on the Rockets would be my dream come true. Please make this happen

[pauls931]

Damn, that's a stupid trade, they might as well pick up nash then too. TMac is just too risky, health and more importantly motivation wise.

[BacktoBasics]

Addition by subtraction. Yao is a better teammate when T-Mac is out. Houston will never win anything with a T-Mac led team. I see no problem with unloading a highly talented low chemistry player for more role player depth and cap relief.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Isn't the ability to run a requirement in a run and gun system?

[Rogue]

Another rumor goin around is T-Mac to the Kings for Kevin Martin, plus fillers
This is even further beyond what can be trusted.

[Mel_13]

The original source for this rumor is here:
http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/blog/2009/06/tmac_attack.html

The article contains this priceless quote:

But it's tantalizing for the Knicks, who are desperate for a star-quality player who can make them a legitimate playoff contender in the East.

Even TMac at the height of his career would not make the Knicks legitimate playoff contenders. The trade he proposes helps the Knicks sell tickets while they wait for the summer of Lebron, and saves the Rockets money and the trouble of answering TMac questions while his rehab progresses (or doesn't progress). Just a financial and PR move for both teams. I think the Rockets will either find a deal that brings back a player(s) they can use or just play out the string and let his contract expire.

[ffadicted]

Cutino Mobley = lol

[iggypop123]

for kevin martin. i knew the kings were stupid but this is beyond them. not even isiah would do it

[Indazone]

More on the trade climate of the Rockets
http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2009/06/rockets_standing_pat_just_tink.html


June 18, 2009
Rockets standing pat? Just tinkering? Not if they can help it.

Nice little celebration in LA. Mark Madsen was not there to dance. Shaq was not there to rap. Chevys were not turned into kindling.

The good news around here, however, is that the Rockets did not celebrate.

It has been natural to wonder if the Lakers' championship would leave the Rockets dangerously proud of their post-season. They are the only team to take the Lakers to seven games, the only team to lead them in a series and the only team this season or last to beat the Lakers when facing elimination. (They also went 6-2 this season against the three other Conference Finals teams.)

The Lakers clearly became the NBA's best team. The Rockets pushed them there.

"Houston was a different story altogether," Lakers coach Phil Jackson said. "They were fast, they were very driven, team-ball play, they did a good job in spacing out the court, getting accomplished what they wanted to do. They had two defenders to throw at Kobe (Bryant) in (Ron) Artest and (Shane) Battier, and so they were a really worthy opponent, pushed us to seven games.

"I thought that really made us the team that we got to be in the playoffs. We understood what we had to get accomplished, and we did the job from that time forward, played good basketball."

The Rockets could tell themselves they are worthy contenders.

They are, however, not fooled.

The Rockets were whipped in two of those Lakers games, including Game 7. Their strengths do match up well with the Lakers, just not enough to actually beat them.

If there had been concerns that the Rockets would settle for the hopes that Yao Ming would stay healthy and their young talent would grow into something greater and that all that would be enough, those concerned now seem unfounded.

The Rockets have been remarkably aggressive in talks around the league since their elimination from the playoffs. Leslie Alexander's admission that he might be "predatory" in hopes of taking advantage of others' financial problems seems to have been a call to arms for GM Daryl Morey.

So far, nothing has happened; nothing is close. Still, this is actually a pretty cool time to be a Rockets fan, if you are a fan of off-season fantasies. Sure, the Rockets don't have a draft pick. That means you can imagine them moving in at anywhere from two on. You can argue the merits of anything from chasing Ricky Rubio (!!!) to getting another second-round guy to stash in Europe.

OK, so they've tried to move up in each of the previous three drafts and didn't do it. Trying and doing are different things, but this is a buyer's market like never before.

That brings the real measure of how aggressive they would be willing to be, and the other fun of this offseason, if you get into this sort of thing.

You can imagine all sorts of possibilities, based on the value of Tracy McGrady's contract and situation.

With as much as half the league looking to make cost-cutting moves, no team other than the few with cap space attracts more calls than the Rockets.

There was a snippet that the Rockets are shopping Tracy McGrady this week. The wording of that, however, is laughable. That's like saying the producers of Law and Order are hoping to convince someone to put reruns of the show on cable television somewhere.

The Rockets are not shopping McGrady; they are picking up the phone when it rings, and it rarely stops ringing. (Teams always say that, but in this unusual case, because of McGrady's contract and the financial climate, it happens to be true.)

Morey would not say much on the topic.

"We're not seeking to trade Tracy," he said. "I've got to look at everything. That's my job."

McGrady's contract is huge ($22.5 million next season) and then it expires. Until he plays, insurance can take care of the cost through sometime next February. And teams all know this.

A team looking to cut salary, can send the Rockets a big contract, take back McGrady's for one season and pay him only a portion of that money. Plus, he seems driven to come back, and to prove something in a contract year.

Those things are attractive to the Rockets, too. The Rockets have improved enough to win without him, but when you consider their needs in a quest to move up a notch, they would need the abilities and strengths offensively that a healthy McGrady brings. And if they were to trade him, they likely would have anyone they take back at that price for years. That would be a marriage you'd go into very cautiously.

But let your mind wander. 'Tis the season.

There are many teams looking to make cost-cutting moves, including the Nets, Timberwolves, Hawks, Jazz, Wizards, Grizzlies, Hornets, Bucks, Bobcats and Suns. There are probably others.

The Rockets would only move McGrady for someone with the whiff of star on him. They are not moving McGrady for Larry Hughes and Eddy Curry, or something like that, unless Morey's mathematicians determined that the Rockets do not have enough mediocre players and need to remake themselves to be more like Isiah Thomas' Knicks.

They can't get an elite player in his prime. It would more likely be a former All Star still hanging on to some of that greatness, or an up-and-coming player with a chance. He would likely have some issues to consider, the way McGrady did with his injury history when the Rockets made that move.

The Rockets would not make that kind of move for someone with durability issues. They would not go for a one-dimensional (no defense) player. Most of all, they would not move McGrady just to get a couple guys to fill out the roster, who at most would be insurance backups.

They would, however, be willing to take on a bad contract. They cannot get value equal to the contract, but sometimes, that's the price of doing business.

This is where it gets interesting. The problem is that when you take out the elite players no one would ever trade, the guys that can't or won't defend and the players with injury histories, there are not much left.

Still, if you like to play GM, this is a good time to do it. A few months ago, most of it was silly. (There was never, ever, ever a McGrady to New Jersey deal on the table.) Despite the emotions he inspires, the Rockets don't need to move McGrady. He can be an asset as a player or a contract, and the trade deadline is seven months away.

The Rockets, however, seem willing to consider anything involving players shorter than 7-6, including one unusual bargaining chip.

They are, despite the seven-game series, a long way from Lakers. But they do seem to know it, and it is a good time to consider what to do about it.

• • •

If you are into this sort of thing and find yourself imagining what the Rockets can do, the Rockets have coveted players in potential trade talks, in order (roughly), based on ability/potential, contract and age: Aaron Brooks, Luis Scola, Shane Battier, Carl Landry and Kyle Lowry.

• • •

On the draft, with few exceptions, the consideration should be the best player available.

The draft should be a way to invest, especially for good teams that don't have a glaring hole to fill, and even more so for a team that traded last season's No. 1 and this season's pick.

It doesn't matter who can fill a need if a better player is there. Unless the guy won't ever be better than the guys they've got, especially young players already on the roster, take the better player.

This year, with the draft way out of whack in favor of point guards, that would mean teams with good points will be taking another. The Rockets have two young point guards, and it would take a special prospect for the Rockets to add another. Wherever they choose, however, they are with few exceptions best served in the long run to forget fit and pick the best player.

[DynastySpurs210]

um who cares!! Is all about the San Antonio Spurs!!!

Go Spurs Go 2010 NBA CHAMPS!!!http://farm1.static.flickr.com/37/76799685_b2775f2ed3.jpg

[Indazone]

lol, we'll see. The strong must rule, and when the apprentice surpasses the Master, the Master must fall..

[JamStone]

what the knicks need is a post player, their already full of perimeter players.

That's why they Knicks want McGrady. D'Antoni will play T-Mac at center.

[TDMVPDPOY]

the knicks should either go after amare or bosh imo....

they already got that small ball shit happening atm.....