Official UFC 102 Discussion Thread

[tlongII]

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UFC 102: AUGUST 29, 2009
venue: Rose Garden Arena in Portland, Oregon

Main Bouts:
-Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (31-5-1; #5 Heavyweight)* vs. Randy Couture (16-9; #6 Heavyweight)*
-Keith Jardine (14-5-1; #8 Light Heavyweight)* vs. Thiago Silva (13-1; #9 Light Heavyweight)*
-Jake Rosholt (5-1) vs. Chris Leben (18-7)
-Nate Marquardt (28-8-2; #3 Middleweight)* vs. Demian Maia (10-0; #10 Middleweight)*
-Soszynski vs. Brandon Vera (10-3)

Preliminary Bouts:
-Gabe Gonzaga (10-4) vs. Chris Tuchscherer (17-1)
-James Irvin (14-5) vs. Wilson Gouveia (12-6)
-Junior dos Santos (8-1) vs. Justin McCully (9-4)
-Nick Catone (6-1) vs. Mark Munoz (5-1)
-Matt Veach (11-0) vs. Evan Dunham (8-0)
-Mike Russow (11-1) vs. Todd Duffee (4-0)

-MMAweekly rankings.

s u h w e e t ! ! !

[angelbelow]

Are you going?

[tlongII]

yes

[Evan]

damn hippy!

[edited original post to make this the official fight thread]

[tlongII]

I think it's a pretty good card actually. Really looking forward to it! :tu

[LEONARD]

Hamill out, Soszynski in against Vera
http://mmajunkie.com/news/15570/injured-matt-hamill-replaced-by-krzysztof-soszynski-in-ufc-102-bout-with-brandon-vera.mma

[polandprzem]

Hamill out, Soszynski in against Vera
http://mmajunkie.com/news/15570/injured-matt-hamill-replaced-by-krzysztof-soszynski-in-ufc-102-bout-with-brandon-vera.mma

Didn't I put the info like 4 days ago? :)

And wow Soszyński is incredible - he is once again a sub guy.

[TheTruth]

That's a good card, but what the hell is Rosholt doing fighting in the Main Card? Irvin/Gouveia. Move it up!

[angelbelow]

yes

sweet.

The Nog and Courture fight is one for the ages.

[TheTruth]

Main Bouts:
-Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (31-5-1; #5 Heavyweight)* vs. Randy Couture (16-9; #6 Heavyweight)*
-Keith Jardine (14-5-1; #8 Light Heavyweight)* vs. Thiago Silva (13-1; #9 Light Heavyweight)*
-Jake Rosholt (5-1) vs. Chris Leben (18-7)
-Nate Marquardt (28-8-2; #3 Middleweight)* vs. Demian Maia (10-0; #10 Middleweight)*
-Soszynski vs. Brandon Vera (10-3)

Preliminary Bouts:
-Gabe Gonzaga (10-4) vs. Chris Tuchscherer (17-1)
-James Irvin (14-5) vs. Wilson Gouveia (12-6)
-Junior dos Santos (8-1) vs. Justin McCully (9-4)
-Nick Catone (6-1) vs. Mark Munoz (5-1)
-Matt Veach (11-0) vs. Evan Dunham (8-0)
-Mike Russow (11-1) vs. Todd Duffee (4-0)

2 Filipinos on one card. Very nice....

[dbreiden83080]

Jardine/Silva is a horrible co main event..

[desflood]

Main Bouts:
-Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Randy Couture
-Keith Jardine vs. Thiago Silva
-Jake Rosholt vs. Chris Leben
-Nate Marquardt vs.Demian Maia
-Kris Soszynski vs. Brandon Vera

Preliminary Bouts:
-Gabe Gonzaga vs. Chris Tuchscherer
-Marcus Aurelio vs. Evan Dunham
-Junior dos Santos vs. Justin McCully
-Nick Catone vs. Mark Munoz
-Matt Veach vs. Evan Dunham
-Mike Russow vs. Todd Duffee

[desflood]

Jardine/Silva is a horrible co main event..
Look at it this way, db - it can't end up any worse than Griffin/Silva did!

[dallaskd]

My 5..

- Randy Couture (16-9) -200 vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (31-5-1) +160
- Keith Jardine (14-5-1) -180 vs. Thiago Silva (13-1) +150
- Nate Marquardt (28-8-2) -165 vs. Demian Maia (10-0) +140
- Brandon Vera (10-3) -190 vs. Krzysztof Soszynski (18-8-1) +150
- Gabe Gonzaga (10-4) -360 vs. Chris Tuchscherer (17-1) +305

[dbreiden83080]

Look at it this way, db - it can't end up any worse than Griffin/Silva did!

LOL, i don't know the entertainment value of Forrest's post fight hissy fit, was pretty cool..

[polandprzem]

Main Bouts:
-Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Randy Couture
-Keith Jardine vs. Thiago Silva
-Jake Rosholt vs. Chris Leben
-Nate Marquardt vs. Demian Maia
-Kris Soszynski vs. Brandon Vera

Preliminary Bouts:
-Gabe Gonzaga vs. Chris Tuchscherer

[desflood]

LOL, i don't know the entertainment value of Forrest's post fight hissy fit, was pretty cool..
Shocking and dismaying, it was. Lots of people paid $45 to see Forrest react exactly the same way my 9-year-old does when he loses to his brother at Wii Boxing. Which, in a way, is quite funny.

[polandprzem]

I might change it as I don't know how nog and Couture looks right now from shape point of view.

And maybe I will change Gonzaga for Wilson

[polandprzem]

Jardine/Silva is a horrible co main event..

Should be Nate vs Demian

Those guys are top guys in UFC MW class and next in line for a title shot.

[djohn14]

Main Bouts:
-Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Randy Couture
-Keith Jardine vs. Thiago Silva
-Jake Rosholt vs. Chris Leben
-Nate Marquardt vs. Demian Maia
-Kris Soszynski vs. Brandon Vera

Preliminary Bouts:
-Gabe Gonzaga vs. Chris Tuchscherer
-James Irvin vs. Wilson Gouveia
-Junior dos Santos vs. Justin McCully
-Nick Catone vs. Mark Munoz
-Matt Veach vs. Evan Dunham
-Mike Russow vs. Todd Duffee

[cool cat]

Eh, think i'm going to skip buying this one.

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Randy Couture great fight but would have been better 3,4,5 years ago.

The rest of the fights don't get me excited, Nate Marquardt vs. Demian Maia is ok and should be the co-main event.

[LEONARD]

Corrections to the card...

Mike Russo (11-1) vs. Justin McCully (9-4)
Tim Hague (10-1) vs. Todd Duffee (4-0)
Marcus Aurelio (18-7) vs. Evan Dunham (8-0)
Ed Herman (15-7) vs. Aaron Simpson (5-0)

[LEONARD]

My fav 5 picks... :)

Keith Jardine vs. Thiago Silva
Krzysztof Soszynski vs. Brandon Vera
Gabe Gonzaga vs. Chris Tuchscherer
Ed Herman vs. Aaron Simpson
Mike Russow vs Justin McCully

also like Munoz to get a win...

[LEONARD]

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Main Card Bouts:
- Randy Couture (16-9) -200 vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (31-5-1) +160
- Keith Jardine (14-5-1) -180 vs. Thiago Silva (13-1) +150
- Chris Leben (18-7) -170 vs. Jake Rosholt (5-1) +140
- Nate Marquardt (28-8-2) -165 vs. Demian Maia (10-0) +140
- Brandon Vera (10-3) -190 vs. Krzysztof Soszynski (18-8-1) +150

Preliminary Bouts:
- Gabe Gonzaga (10-4) -360 vs. Chris Tuchscherer (17-1) +305
- Mike Russo (11-1) -250 vs. Justin McCully (9-4) +210
- Todd Duffee (4-0) -130 vs. Tim Hague (10-1) -105
- Mark Munoz (5-1) -190 vs. Nick Catone (6-1) +150
- Marcus Aurelio (18-7) -165 vs. Evan Dunham (8-0) +135
- Ed Herman (15-7) -165 vs. Aaron Simpson (5-0) +135

Several intriguing underdogs on this one...

Nog
Silva
Maia
Soszynski

Couture wants to be the first to sub Nog...uhhhhhh...I can't see any way that happens, unless Nog is practically unconscious and Randy chokes him out for the sake of saying he sub'd him.

[desflood]

Nogueira the underdog? I don't see that at all.

[dbreiden83080]

Nogueira the underdog? I don't see that at all.

He looked so bad in his last fight, i can understand it..

[desflood]

I guess most casual fans wouldn't have known about the staph he had right before the fight. Looking at it that way, it makes more sense.

[LEONARD]

Maia
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[dallaskd]

bump

[Soul_Patch]

- Randy Couture (16-9) -200 vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (31-5-1) +160
- Keith Jardine (14-5-1) -180 vs. Thiago Silva (13-1) +150
- Chris Leben (18-7) -170 vs. Jake Rosholt (5-1) +140
- Nate Marquardt (28-8-2) -165 vs. Demian Maia (10-0) +140
- Brandon Vera (10-3) -190 vs. Krzysztof Soszynski (18-8-1) +150

Preliminary Bouts:
- Gabe Gonzaga (10-4) -360 vs. Chris Tuchscherer (17-1) +305
- Mike Russo (11-1) -250 vs. Justin McCully (9-4) +210
- Todd Duffee (4-0) -130 vs. Tim Hague (10-1) -105
- Mark Munoz (5-1) -190 vs. Nick Catone (6-1) +150
- Marcus Aurelio (18-7) -165 vs. Evan Dunham (8-0) +135
- Ed Herman (15-7) -165 vs. Aaron Simpson (5-0) +135

[Soul_Patch]

I really like Demian Maia, one of my favorite fighters ive seen in a while. I am hopnig he can avoid Nate's power and work him over on the ground.

[ATRAIN]

-Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Randy Couture
-Keith Jardine vs. Thiago Silva
-Jake Rosholt vs. Chris Leben
-Nate Marquardt vs. Demian Maia
-Kris Soszynski vs. Brandon Vera

[dallaskd]

Main Bouts:
-Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Randy Couture
-Keith Jardine vs. Thiago Silva
-Jake Rosholt vs. Chris Leben
-Nate Marquardt vs. Demian Maia
-Kris Soszynski vs. Brandon Vera

Preliminary Bouts:
-Gabe Gonzaga vs. Chris Tuchscherer
-James Irvin vs. Wilson Gouveia
-Junior dos Santos vs. Justin McCully
-Nick Catone vs. Mark Munoz
-Matt Veach vs. Evan Dunham
-Mike Russow vs. Todd Duffee


Gouveia-Irvin is off.

[dbreiden83080]

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Randy Couture
Keith Jardine vs. Thiago Silva
Jake Rosholt vs. Chris Leben
Nate Marquardt vs. Demian Maia
Kris Soszynski vs. Brandon Vera

[desflood]

Gouveia-Irvin is off.
Sorry, don't know how I missed that. Busy week. Thanks!

[Rip-Hamilton32]

the next fight night card>>>this card

[angelbelow]

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (31-5-1; #5 Heavyweight)* vs. Randy Couture (16-9; #6 Heavyweight)*

[angelbelow]

the next fight night card>>>this card

Disagree. I think theyre all exciting in their own way, no fight card is necessary greater than the other, just showcases different things.

[Soul_Patch]

I wasnt that thrilled about this card, but the more i think about it, the more i like it...im fired up for this one now.

[LEONARD]

Uggh...I hope this isn't true...
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/8/22/999035/is-antonio-rodrigo-nogueiras-ufc

At the press conference call Nogueira emphasized that he is feeling the best he has in years:

"I'm 33 years old, and I have a lot to do in my career still," Nogueira said. "At least, I've got to fight a couple of more years.

"I know I'm still young and feel healthy. I still feel when I fight I'm very competitive. ... I'm in the best shape since 2005. I feel very good, and I did not feel like (that) in the last four years."

But rumors are swirling that his camp hasn't gone well and that he has been knocked out repeatedly in sparring sessions, a far cry from the iron-chinned Minotauro of old.

We will find out almost exactly one week from tonight. Personally, I'm hoping for the best Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira we've ever seen, but I just can't convince myself it's very likely.

The other question is this -- even if it is the best Big Nog we've ever seen, could that man beat Randy Couture? Perhaps if they had met ten years ago when Couture's submission defense game was much more limited. But in 2009, it's hard to draw a path to victory for Nogueira. He might be able to outpoint Couture on the feet, but he's never displayed KO power. There's no way he'll dominate the takedowns against Couture and it's highly unlikely he'll be able to sweep Randy from his back. That leaves the old hail mary triangle or arm bar from his back. But it's not 2003 and Randy ain't Mirko Cro Cop

[dbreiden83080]

Uggh...I hope this isn't true...
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/8/22/999035/is-antonio-rodrigo-nogueiras-ufc

At the press conference call Nogueira emphasized that he is feeling the best he has in years:

"I'm 33 years old, and I have a lot to do in my career still," Nogueira said. "At least, I've got to fight a couple of more years.

"I know I'm still young and feel healthy. I still feel when I fight I'm very competitive. ... I'm in the best shape since 2005. I feel very good, and I did not feel like (that) in the last four years."

But rumors are swirling that his camp hasn't gone well and that he has been knocked out repeatedly in sparring sessions, a far cry from the iron-chinned Minotauro of old.

We will find out almost exactly one week from tonight. Personally, I'm hoping for the best Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira we've ever seen, but I just can't convince myself it's very likely.

The other question is this -- even if it is the best Big Nog we've ever seen, could that man beat Randy Couture? Perhaps if they had met ten years ago when Couture's submission defense game was much more limited. But in 2009, it's hard to draw a path to victory for Nogueira. He might be able to outpoint Couture on the feet, but he's never displayed KO power. There's no way he'll dominate the takedowns against Couture and it's highly unlikely he'll be able to sweep Randy from his back. That leaves the old hail mary triangle or arm bar from his back. But it's not 2003 and Randy ain't Mirko Cro Cop


WOW, i'm with you i hope this is not true. He has not looked very good since coming into the UFC. Yeah he has taken plenty of past beatings and come roaring back but obviously it catches up to you. If he loses this fight bad, and it's obvious he is shot, i hope he calls it a career. The UFC should find a place for this legend in the company, elsewhere.. He deserevs it..

[LEONARD]

Go back to the Herring fight, which he dominated about 14/15 min’s of…but that weak little flip kick that rocked him was NOT that hard. It always bothered me that he was dropped by it, but he fought thru and finished strong the last 2 rds. Typical Nog.

Sylvia rocked him a couple times and won the first 2 rounds…then Nog schooled him on the ground. But still, he was close to being finished.

Then Mir dominated him…knee/staff infection not withstanding…who knows what impact that had on his performance.

I hate to see either guy lose and I definitely don’t want either to take a severe beating, or look terrible. Wish this happened 5 yrs ago…

[Evan]

Thats not so good...getting ko'd in practice...freaking Chute Box going full throttle..

[LEONARD]

Gotta pull for a guy like Russow...

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/8/25/1001462/ufc-102-preview-mike-russow-makes

[LEONARD]

Officially wishing failure on McCully...
http://www.cagepotato.com/somehow-justin-mccullys-nickname-has-gotten-worse

http://cdn.cagepotato.com/www/sites/default/files/Justin%20McCully%20Nickname.jpg

[LEONARD]

Couture article...still talking about subbing Nog. Only if he's practically unconscious, instead of pounding him out...
http://mmamania.com/2009/08/25/randy-couture-plans-to-take-a-page-out-of-minotauro-nogueiras-book-at-ufc-102-%E2%80%A6-literally/#more-14764

[polandprzem]

Damn I'm still not sure who to pick in this fight. There are so many factors that can come to play. I have not much information about their recent shape. I could change my mind after the weight-ins.

For Couture octagone is like home but Nog is a best fighter. what makes it intresting is a difference in styles.
Randy can be too old
Nog can be to demolished

I don't know, Randy has a better stand-up and he can use that to take Nog down and with his G&P he can win. Not let Nog sweep him, not let Nog use his JJ of his back. All in all it will be hell of a intresting bout.

[LEONARD]

Wanderlei looks so weird now...

http://web11.twitpic.com/img/25793387-6f51fd199766ec1a42188c2fc4389ca0.4a958f9e-scaled.jpg

[polandprzem]

Wanderlei looks so weird now...

http://web11.twitpic.com/img/25793387-6f51fd199766ec1a42188c2fc4389ca0.4a958f9e-scaled.jpg

[polandprzem]

Can't see your pic

http://cyber-sport.us/zalaczniki/104okf9_189.jpg

[Stringer_Bell]

Did Wanderlei get botox? Or mess with his eyebrows? Hrmmm.

Nog has gotten used to getting beat up then roaring back since he's been in the UFC. I think Randy's tired and doesn't really care as much as he makes it seem. Nog will win, I don't know what round or how, but he'll find a way.

[LEONARD]

from the press conf... (MMAWeekly FB page)

Dana White avoids WEC folding into UFC questions, but not really denying it.

Dana White says Vancouver is "done" and UFC will be there soon.

Dana White says UFC 103 in Dallas is already sold out.

[desflood]

The closer it gets, the more difficulty I have making the pick between Marquardt and Maia.

[LEONARD]

Did Wanderlei get botox? Or mess with his eyebrows? Hrmmm.

Nog has gotten used to getting beat up then roaring back since he's been in the UFC. I think Randy's tired and doesn't really care as much as he makes it seem. Nog will win, I don't know what round or how, but he'll find a way.

Wandy had face surgery...

[LEONARD]

Randy discusses divorce
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[LEONARD]

Penn vs Sanchez is a go, but not at 105 (per MMAWeekly)

[LEONARD]

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/view_album.php?id=1962&page=1

[anakha]

Wandy had face surgery...

Considering the amount of scar tissue around his eyebrows before, the guy probably just had that tissue removed, but looks like he had a damn facelift. :lol

Yikes - upon second look, he looks almost like Mark Coleman does now. Creepy.

[dbreiden83080]

The closer it gets, the more difficulty I have making the pick between Marquardt and Maia.

Glad you brought that up. Very tough fight to pick. I picked Nate because i think he is more of a fighter, Maia is more of a JJ expert. He may be the best at JJ in the UFC but i don't think he has the all around game of Nate.. Plus Nate comes from the Jackson camp, always a plus..

[djohn14]

Yeah Nate is the better all around fighter, its just Maia is incredible at what he does. I WANT Maia to win, and thats why im picking him.

[oligarchy]

Couture
Jardine
Maia
Vera
Gonzaga

[PuttPutt]

Portland is only a few hours away...damn I wish I had the cash to go. I've always wanted to attend a UFC event

[LEONARD]

A Day with Randy Couture, Dan henderson, and Matt Lindland
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/view_album.php?id=1964

[LEONARD]

Weigh-ins at 6:00 CT

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=eventdetail.home&eid=2283

[tlongII]

This is going to be EPIC! I can't wait!

[Evan]

HW: Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (231) vs. Randy Couture (220)
205 lbs: Thiago Silva (205) vs. Keith Jardine (205)
185 lbs: Demian Maia (185) vs. Nate Marquardt (185)
205 lbs: Krzysztof Soszynski (205) vs. Brandon Vera (205)
185 lbs: Jake Rosholt (185) vs. Chris Leben (185)
185 lbs: Aaron Simpson (185) vs. Ed Herman (185.5)
HW: Chris Tuchscherer (258) vs. Gabriel Gonzaga (259)
HW: Michael Russow (260) vs. Justin McCully (238)
HW: Todd Duffee (251) vs. Tim Hague (263.5)
185 lbs: Mark Munoz (185.5) vs. Nick Catone (185.5)
155 lbs: Evan Dunham (155) vs. Marcus Aurelio (156)

[Evan]

HW: Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (231) vs. Randy Couture (220)
185 lbs: Jake Rosholt (185) vs. Chris Leben (185)
185 lbs: Aaron Simpson (185) vs. Ed Herman (185.5)
HW: Chris Tuchscherer (258) vs. Gabriel Gonzaga (259)
155 lbs: Evan Dunham (155) vs. Marcus Aurelio (156)

[LEONARD]

Wanderlei looks like he's waiting for Marquardt to make one wrong move...his face looks f'n weird!!
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/082809ufc/1078.jpg

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/082809ufc/1070.jpg

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/082809ufc/1085.jpg

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/082809ufc/1092.jpg

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/082809ufc/1089.jpg

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/082809ufc/1095.jpg

all the pics
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/view_album.php?id=1965&page=1

[djohn14]

Dang I forgot this was tomorrow and told my buddy Id go to the ballgame with him!

[dbreiden83080]

wanderlei looks like he's waiting for marquardt to make one wrong move...his face looks f'n weird!!
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/082809ufc/1070.jpg
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Wandy looks like he is primed for witness protection, i mean who is what handsome devil??

[LEONARD]

nug6ObEl7E0

[LEONARD]

Marquardt video blog
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[tlongII]

I think they slashed the prices of most tickets in half beginning yesterday afternoon. It will be interesting to see what the attendance is. The Rose Garden holds 20,000 and I have heard they had sold less that 10,000 tickets. Their price point is way too high for a depressed area like Portland.

[dbreiden83080]

I think they slashed the prices of most tickets in half beginning yesterday afternoon. It will be interesting to see what the attendance is. The Rose Garden holds 20,000 and I have heard they had sold less that 10,000 tickets. Their price point is way too high for a depressed area like Portland.

Very interesting, UFC should have cut ticket prices way sooner than Yesterday..

[dallaskd]

are you going tlong?

[tlongII]

are you going tlong?

Yep, I'll be there.

[dbreiden83080]

Yep, I'll be there.

Nice have a good time, Take some pics and post them if you can..

[dallaskd]

This is the first card in a while that ive bought and will watch alone at the crib. Just want to enjoy it considering these are the last few times we will see Randy in the cage.

[cornbread]

Couture
Silva
Leben
Marquadt
Vera

[dbreiden83080]

This is the first card in a while that ive bought and will watch alone at the crib. Just want to enjoy it considering these are the last few times we will see Randy in the cage.

Actually one of the first in a while i am not buying. Pretty good card, but i bought UFC 98, 99, 100 and 101, so i need a break in my wallet.. If the Co-Main event was sexier i might have got it..

[dbreiden83080]

Looks like Gonzaga won his fight by Nut-Shot.. :lol


Round 1
Gonzaga lands a devastating left low kick to the groin of Tuchscherer in the opening seconds of the bout. After a delayed reaction, Tuchscherer waved for referee Dave Hagan who stepped in to halt the action. Tuchscherer crumpled to the mat and resisted any efforts to treat him by the ringside staff. Replays show it was a direct hit to the groin. He is up on a stool now and seems to be ready to continue. Tuchscherer is ready to go. Gonzaga lands a head kick that drops Tuchscherer soon after the restart. He follows him to the canvas and pounds away with punches to the head. Tuchscherer scrambles for position but Gonzaga is too much for him, easily taking the mount. Tuchscherer is bleeding profusely from the nose. Gonzaga continues his assault, now from the back of Tuchscherer, who has gotten up to his knees. Referee Dave Hagan has seen enough and steps in to end the beating at 2:27 of the first round.

[dallaskd]

damn that sucks :lol

Herman lost due to a leg injury he got in a throw from Simpson. Duffee-Hague was 7 seconds long and its probably time for Aurelio to hang 'em up..

bizzare card so far.

[BlackSwordsMan]

wow shitty vera fight

[dallaskd]

2-0 so far :fro

[dallaskd]

nate!!!

[dallaskd]

3-0 bitches!

[dbreiden83080]

Not watching but apparently Nate blasted Maia in liek 2o seconds..

I knew Nate was the better overall fighter..

[dallaskd]

why not? nate took his head off. i think maia was trying to come in with a superman or something and got stuck on the chin.

[BlackSwordsMan]

another shitty fight
god damn

[BlackSwordsMan]

wow leben died

[dallaskd]

nice rosholt!!!

[BlackSwordsMan]

Hardwork baby

[dbreiden83080]

That's a wrap on Jardines Career..

[Evan]

That's a wrap on Jardines Career..

not yet

[dbreiden83080]

not yet

More Gatekeeping to do..

[dallaskd]

I bet the UFC drops jardine. He would be really good for strikeforce..

[BlackSwordsMan]

awesome fight with nog

[BlackSwordsMan]

I hope he doesn't get robbed

[dallaskd]

Nog is back?

[BlackSwordsMan]

cock lesnar vs nog
randy vs fedor

[dallaskd]

randy is just to old at this point to be a contender. although he is still better than 90% of HWs.

[LEONARD]

Great fight...props to Randy for hanging in there and getting through the subs and knockdowns. Wish it'd been 5 rds...


cock lesnar vs nog
randy vs fedor

Neither would be competitive IMO...

Lesnar would smother and pound out Nog.

I don't wanna see Randy get murdered by Fedor either. Fedor slaughtered Nog twice when Nog was the F'n man. He's a shell of that guy now...

[Stringer_Bell]

As I so humbly predicted, Nog was victorious, but I don't think it means much in the long run. It was just good to see those two fight, the heart is still there in both guys even if the bodies are a little old. I agree with Leonard, Nog and Randy are 5 round fighters. It wasn't for a title, but it still wold have been cool to see it go the distance.

It looked like Leben tried to tap in front of his home crowd, but the ref wasn't having it lol. Not a fan of those Condom Depot fighters, they usually end up getting aborted mid-fight.

[dallaskd]

Great fight...props to Randy for hanging in there and getting through the subs and knockdowns. Wish it'd been 5 rds...



Neither would be competitive IMO...

Lesnar would smother and pound out Nog.

I don't wanna see Randy get murdered by Fedor either. Fedor slaughtered Nog twice when Nog was the F'n man. He's a shell of that guy now...

Fedor couldnt finish Nog.. what makes you think Lesnar can? you dont think he could pull a sub out of his ass like he did vs sylvia if he can wear lesnar down?

[Evan]

great fucking card...loved it...!!!!

[LEONARD]

My fav 5 picks... :)

Keith Jardine vs. Thiago Silva
Krzysztof Soszynski vs. Brandon Vera
Gabe Gonzaga vs. Chris Tuchscherer
Ed Herman vs. Aaron Simpson
Mike Russow vs Justin McCully

4-1 :ihit


Couture
Jardine
Maia
Vera
Gonzaga

2-3 :depressed

[LEONARD]

Fedor couldnt finish Nog.. what makes you think Lesnar can? you dont think he could pull a sub out of his ass like he did vs sylvia if he can wear lesnar down?

Nog of 2009 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Nog of 2004

Today's Nog couldn't take the punishment that Fedor gave him...few could've really. Lesnar would pound him out and I just don't care to see it...I'm a huge Nog fan. He's still good but he'll never be what he was 4-5 yrs ago...

[dbreiden83080]

Fedor couldnt finish Nog.. what makes you think Lesnar can? you dont think he could pull a sub out of his ass like he did vs sylvia if he can wear lesnar down?

Nobody and i mean nobody can take Brock's Ground and Pound dude. He's not the same guy that fought Herring, he is a monster down there now.. He took Mir down and with one shot up against the fence that was hard, Mir was done. Nog has one of the best chins ever but Brock is too big, strong, athletic and powerful for him at this point in his career. I promise you the fight would not be competitive..

[dbreiden83080]

I picked Randy but i don't know about anyone else, i was rooting for Nog the whole fight. Gotta love the guy and you really wanted him to come back better after the horrid loss to Mir. Good for Nog, i don't care i missed that pick..

[dallaskd]

Lesnar's dick has to be raw from all the sucking it gets on this forum.

[dbreiden83080]

Lesnar's dick has to be raw from all the sucking it gets on this forum.

I know you hate him for a lot of reasons but he is here to stay, the man is a beast. Nog is not vastly better on the ground than Mir. What happened in that last fight?? He got nothing done on the ground with Brock except getting his head bashed in...

[dbreiden83080]

Lesnar's dick has to be raw from all the sucking it gets on this forum.

Just for clarification, you mean the dick in his pants or the one on his chest??

[polandprzem]

Damn I suck, changing on randy few hours before the event

[tlongII]

I had a GREAT TIME at the fights! Too bad that all 3 of the hometown boys got their asses kicked. I had great seats and got my pic taken with Nate Quarry. Lots of hotties were there as well.

[tlongII]

Randy's chin is suspect. That was his biggest problem.

[polandprzem]

Randy's chin is suspect. That was his biggest problem.


Nope

His chin is old now :)

But the fight was great :tu

And when Joe asked randy if he wants to keep going and why - the answer was perfect.

[dbreiden83080]

May not be up long for anyone who hasn't seen it, get it while it's hot...


http://www.worldofcombat.net/randy-couture-vs-antonio-noguiera-fight-video.html

[Evan]

Sherdog -


"The Bottom Line: Nogueira fans should start practicing their cringing, as Couture is going to turn this into a one-sided dirty boxing display that the Brazilian won’t be able to do much of anything about. No miracle submissions this time around, as Nogueira ends up getting saved by the referee’s sense of compassion but not before taking two rounds worth of Couture’s old-school bullying."


"The Bottom Line: My personal betting favorite for “Fight of the Night,” expect a wild one, with Jardine loading up on the leg kicks and Silva answering with his underrated clinch game. Eventually, Silva’s struggle for the takedown will tax his cardio and leave him gasping for air as Jardine starts finding a home for his unorthodox arsenal. Do not expect Silva’s chin to be up to the punishment, as Jardine scores an impressive third-round technical knockout and immediately goes into Techno Viking mode."


"The Bottom Line: This will be Maia’s toughest fight yet, but not even Marquardt busting out the pile driver again will be enough to save him from getting ensnared in the Brazilian’s web of tangled limbs and blocked airways. The difference maker this time around will be Maia’s wrestling, as Marquardt struggles to keep him at bay before learning the same lesson Chael Sonnen learned against Maia -- some of these jiu-jitsu guys have that wrestling stuff pretty well figured out."


"The Bottom Line: Leben will keep it close early by frustrating Rosholt on the mat before leveling him with his trademark overhand right late in the second round. If you listen closely, you can hear the Rosholt bandwagon clearing out."


"The Bottom Line: After years spent as a highly touted blue-chipper, Vera will complete his slow slide into bust status, as “The Polish Experiment” dissects him with a memorable ground-and-pound assault. "


"The Bottom Line: This will be the fight eagle-eyed fans watch closely. The next wave of middleweight challengers is in the midst of announcing its presence, and Simpson could be next in line. Do not expect him to make that move against Herman, who will turn this into a rough-and-tumble affair by skipping the striking and going for a ground-and-pound siege. There will be some dicey moments for Herman, as Simpson is bound to get in his licks sooner or later. The scorecards will smile on Herman, however, as he leaves his quarry a bloody mess after three rounds of plastic surgery disguised as ground-and-pound."


"The Bottom Line: Aurelio is due for another one of those fights during which he whips his fans into a frenzy by turning some hapless soul into a glorified grappling dummy. That supporting role awaits Dunham, who will not be able to stave off Aurelio’s opening bell bull rush and will instead have to wait for a bailout from the referee. "

[polandprzem]

Sherdog -


"The Bottom Line: Nogueira fans should start practicing their cringing, as Couture is going to turn this into a one-sided dirty boxing display that the Brazilian won’t be able to do much of anything about. No miracle submissions this time around, as Nogueira ends up getting saved by the referee’s sense of compassion but not before taking two rounds worth of Couture’s old-school bullying."


"The Bottom Line: My personal betting favorite for “Fight of the Night,” expect a wild one, with Jardine loading up on the leg kicks and Silva answering with his underrated clinch game. Eventually, Silva’s struggle for the takedown will tax his cardio and leave him gasping for air as Jardine starts finding a home for his unorthodox arsenal. Do not expect Silva’s chin to be up to the punishment, as Jardine scores an impressive third-round technical knockout and immediately goes into Techno Viking mode."


"The Bottom Line: This will be Maia’s toughest fight yet, but not even Marquardt busting out the pile driver again will be enough to save him from getting ensnared in the Brazilian’s web of tangled limbs and blocked airways. The difference maker this time around will be Maia’s wrestling, as Marquardt struggles to keep him at bay before learning the same lesson Chael Sonnen learned against Maia -- some of these jiu-jitsu guys have that wrestling stuff pretty well figured out."


"The Bottom Line: Leben will keep it close early by frustrating Rosholt on the mat before leveling him with his trademark overhand right late in the second round. If you listen closely, you can hear the Rosholt bandwagon clearing out."


"The Bottom Line: After years spent as a highly touted blue-chipper, Vera will complete his slow slide into bust status, as “The Polish Experiment” dissects him with a memorable ground-and-pound assault. "


"The Bottom Line: This will be the fight eagle-eyed fans watch closely. The next wave of middleweight challengers is in the midst of announcing its presence, and Simpson could be next in line. Do not expect him to make that move against Herman, who will turn this into a rough-and-tumble affair by skipping the striking and going for a ground-and-pound siege. There will be some dicey moments for Herman, as Simpson is bound to get in his licks sooner or later. The scorecards will smile on Herman, however, as he leaves his quarry a bloody mess after three rounds of plastic surgery disguised as ground-and-pound."


"The Bottom Line: Aurelio is due for another one of those fights during which he whips his fans into a frenzy by turning some hapless soul into a glorified grappling dummy. That supporting role awaits Dunham, who will not be able to stave off Aurelio’s opening bell bull rush and will instead have to wait for a bailout from the referee. "

Nice predictions

[dallaskd]

lol sherdog

[tlongII]

I didn't realize that Dunham is from here to so I guess the hometown boys were 1-3.

[tlongII]

Oh, and the heavyweight to watch out for in the future is that Duffee kid. That dude is a powerhouse!

[Blackjack]

http://insidefights.com/2009/08/30/ufc-102-bonuses/#comments (http://insidefights.com/2009/08/30/ufc-102-bonuses/#comments)


Randy Couture, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Nate Marquardt and Jake Rosholt all earned a $60,000 bonus for their performances tonight at UFC 102.

Nogueira and Couture earned Fight of the Night honors for one of the best heavyweight fights in history. Rosholt scored Submission of the Night for his arm triangle choke submission over Chris Leben, and Nate Marquardt’s stunning mid-air knockout of Demian Maia netted him the Knockout of the Night award.



Couture signs extension with the UFC (http://insidefights.com/2009/08/30/couture-signs-extension-with-the-ufc/#comments)


Randy Couture revealed at the UFC 102 post-fight press conference that he signed a new contract with the UFC today. The terms of the deal are six fights over 28 months, which ensures that Couture will finish his career in the UFC. It also indicates that Couture has given up the idea of fighting Fedor Emelianenko outside of the promotion.

[Blackjack]

UFC 102: Nogueira defeats Couture in battle for the ages (http://insidefights.com/2009/08/30/ufc-102-nogueira-defeats-couture-in-battle-for-the-ages/#more-80878)
By John Shubert


On paper last night’s UFC 102 seemed like a bit of letdown after the stacked cards the UFC put on with 100 and 101. However, what the card lacked in star power it more than made up for in exciting fights. Let’s recap the action:

Randy Couture v. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira

This fight took home fight of the night and for good reason. These two grizzled veterans put on a show befitting men 10-20 years their junior (20 in the case of Couture). For a fight between an Olympic calibre wrestler and possibly the best submission heavyweight of all time these two really traded leather.

Randy was unable to implement his clinch game against the fence and he payed for it. Nogueira stayed outside and implemented his effective boxing from distance using his technique and reach advantage to land some solid shots. Randy was dropped a couple times and wobbled a few more.

Couture landed some solid shots with his dirty boxing but nothing Nogueira hasn’t survived before. It was amazing how good Nogueira looked after his last fight against Mir but that’s the difference between a healthy Nogueira and one with an injury and a staph infection.


This Nogueira, who not only dominated Randy on the feet, but also on the ground almost sinking in an arm triangle and an anaconda choke, looks like a true contender again. Carwin might have the next shot at Lesnar but Nogueira is definitely back on the radar for a title shot.

Couture showed the grit and heart of a champion as he was in bad shape on multiple occasions but always found a way to keep his cool and surivive. Unfortunately he was so throroughly dominated that Nogueira took home an impressive unanimous decision. It will be interesting to see who Couture fights from here having lost two fights in a row and being out of the title picture for the moment.

Being 46, Couture only wants the biggest fights. Maybe a showdown with Frank Mir is looming?

Keith Jardine v. Thiago Silva

Silva brutalized Jardine winning by TKO in the first round. Jardine’s usually confounding, unorthodox style proved to play no part in this fight as Silva moved straight forward until he landed the winning blow.

Silva looked very impressive against a guy who lost a very close split decision against former UFC champion Quinton Jackson. Could Silva be the next Rich Franklin? Could he be better than almost everyone else in his division but still so far behind the champion that Silva is left in limbo only to see lesser fighter’s pass him by?

As for Jardine this is a crushing blow. He thought he proved something in the loss against Jackson. However, now that he’s lost in brutal fashion to two Silvas (Wanderlei and now Thiago) is his KO switch getting shorter and shorter a la Chuck Liddell? Unfortunately Jardine is looking more and more like a gatekeeper than a contender. Someone who can keep the trash from rising to the top and can surprise a contender but not a real threat to the title.

Nate Marquardt v. Demian Maia

It seemed like everyone was riding the Maia bandwagon. Well, back to the drawing board bandwagon riders. Marquardt dispatched Maia in 21 seconds knocking him out cold. If the fight had lasted long enough for it to get to the ground who knows what could have happened but that question will have to be answered some other time.

Marquardt is now pushed to the front of the line for a shot at Anderson Silva’s title with the likes of Dan Henderson. Both guys are looking to put on a better showing than their last title shot. Maybe this title eliminator could be the first marquee non title fight the UFC could showcase in a five round fight now that the NSAC has sanctioned such fights?

For Maia this is a significant setback. Hopefully this will only push him harder to work on his striking and become a better and more well rounded fighter. I can’t wait to see him back in the cage turning lesser fighters into human pretzels.

Chris Leben v. Jake Rosholt

Everyone also seemed to be riding the Leben bandwagon. The hometown kid, made good, comes home for his moment in the sun. Unfortunately for him Rosholt was having none of that.

This turned into a much more exciting fight than I had anticipated. Rosholt’s stand up actually looked solid. He stayed outside of Leben as much as possible trying to stick and move knowing getting into a fire fight with Leben could mean a quick night.

Rosholt had a little trouble in the beginning getting Leben to the ground which was somewhat surprising given Rosholt’s All-American wrestling background but once he did it was game over. Rosholt passed Leben’s guard at will raining down blows until finally Leben gave up an arm triangle choke as Rosholt put him to sleep before Leben even had a chance to tap.

This was a very disappointing loss for Leben who has now lost two fights in a row, this time in front of his hometown, and he was looking for redemption coming off a steroid ban. All around this was a huge step back for Leben.

On the other hand, this fight went exactly as planned for Rosholt as far as the UFC is concerned. They’ve been trying to push this kid ever since he came in from the WEC but unfortunately he lost his first UFC fight. Now though Rosholt has a submission win over a big name UFC fighter and they can start pushing this kid up the ladder. I hope Rosholt is prepared because it isn’t going to get any easier from here.

Brandon Vera v. Krzysztof Soszynski

This was a very lackluster and unimpressive unanimous decision victory for Vera. He was obviously the faster and more technical striker. However, what frustrated Soszynski most was his inability to get the fight to the ground. Vera was able to stand up almost the entire fight and pick Soszynski apart.

This setback is minor for Soszynski given his recent success in the UFC but hopefully he will have a lot to work on and improve after this fight that will make him a better fighter down the road.

As for Vera he’s now on a two fight winning streak but this fight wasn’t nearly as impressive as his last one. It will be interesting to see who the UFC puts him up against next. I think it’s time to throw him in to the fire against the next level of competition. Do they put him up against his original opponent Matt Hamill or do they up the ante?

Ed Herman v. Aaron Simpson

Herman might’ve lost by TKO due to injury in the second round but this fight was all Simpson from the beginning. Simpson’s striking looked more crisp and powerful right from the start. He dropped Herman a couple times but Herman somehow survived.

Then on a routine double leg takedown Herman injured his knee. He made it to the end of the first round and tried to keep fighting in the second but as he went for a head kick his knee gave out on him and the fight was stopped. However the injury was irrelevant as Simpson was looking to make mince meat out of Herman anyway.

Unfortunately almost none of the hometown products had a successful night as Herman, another Oregon product, has now lost three of his last four fights. Simpson retains his undefeated record with his second win in the UFC.

Tim Hague v. Todd Duffee

Duffee, the American Top Team product, tied the fastest KO ever, laying Hague down in seven seconds beating the mark of eight set by Don Frye and James Irvin. Duffee laid Hague down with a stiff jab and finished him on the ground with a crushing left hook.

Duffee makes his UFC debut an impressive one. No offense to Hague but I’m excited to see Duffee against stiffer competition. Hague will be back. This is only his first loss in the UFC and he’s a scrapper. He’ll be back filling in undercards in no time.

Marcus Aurelio v. Evan Dunham

Finally an Oregon product comes through as Dunham wins by split decision. The first round was all Dunham as Aurelio looked really complacent and almost drained. Dunham lit him up with his striking to take the first round easily.

The second round got very interesting as both guys were trading shots. This was the swing round that really could’ve gone either way but two judges gave it to Dunahm.

The third round appeared to me to be all Aurelio even though one of the judges scored it for Dunham. He was landing the better shots and got a couple takedowns and looked good on the ground.

Unfortunately it wasn’t meant to be. Aurelio took this fight on short notice so it’s tough to say how prepared he was for this fight given his slow start. Hopefully next time out he’s ready to go from the opening bell because if this had been a five round fight I honestly don’t think Dunham would’ve won.

For Dunham he is now 2-0 in the UFC but for Aurelio he is 2-4. It will be interesting to see if the UFC brings him back after a strange fight like this. Do they think they will get the Aurelio from round one or round three?

Untelevised Bouts:

Gabriel Gonzaga v. Chris Tuchscherer

Gonzaga wins by first round TKO. Gonzaga unfortunately is turning into the gatekeeper of the heavyweight division. Granted he had his title shot already but he can’t seem to get over the hump against the really tough competition but he just destroys all the lesser fighters.

Justin McCully v. Mike Russow

Russow wins by unanimous decision on a crazy scorecard. One judge had the fight 29-28 while another had it 30-26. Russow makes his UFC debut a solid one while McCully goes back to the drawing board with a 2-2 UFC record.

Mark Munoz v. Nick Catone

Munoz wins by split decision. Munoz rebounds nicely from his brutal KO loss to Matt Hamill. Catone is hoping to hang on to his job having lost his last two fights in the UFC.

Fight of the night was an obvious choice going to Couture v. Nogueira. There was stiff competition for KO of the night between Marquardt and Duffee but Marquardt took home the prize. And Rosholt took home submission of the night by default.

[angelbelow]

awesome fight, i was filled with adrenaline the entire couture and nog fight!

[oligarchy]

4-1 :ihit



2-3 :depressed

I was going to pick Maynard.. that would have evened me up. lol. FEDOR VERSUS ROGERS HOLMES!! LOL.

[dallaskd]

Just watched the fight again.. man randy is a hell of a warrior/athlete to do what he is doing at 46 years old.

[dallaskd]

I would love to see Nog-Mir in both of their next fights.

[The TroutBum]

Mir would still pwn Nog.


I'm just sayin.

[LEONARD]

I was going to pick Maynard.. that would have evened me up. lol. FEDOR VERSUS ROGERS HOLMES!! LOL.

You suck at MMA...and you're insane.

[Soul_Patch]

I think the only fight i ended up picking right was the Nog - Cotour fight...oh well, good stuff i enjoyed the card, even though i fucked up and accidently bought the non HD version.

[oligarchy]

You suck at MMA...and you're insane.

I didn't know I was practicing MMA. You're an idiot. I'd tell you to read how I make my picks, but that would be a bit hard for you to comprehend. I use big words and all. How about MAYNARD. There you go. FEDORS COCK. There you go.

[LEONARD]

i didn't know i was practicing mma. You're an idiot. I'd tell you to read how i make my picks, but that would be a bit hard for you to comprehend. I use big words and all. How about maynard. There you go. Fedors cock. There you go.

insane

[LEONARD]

Mir sounds off on Rogan, Fedor, etc...
http://mmamania.com/2009/09/01/frank-mir-slams-joe-rogans-pro-nog-ufc-102-commentating-tells-fedor-to-quit-and-go-home/

[dbreiden83080]

Mir let anyone and everyone make excuses for him about his knee all these years and he made plenty himself. So keep being a hypocrit Mir..

[LEONARD]

Great stuff from Kid Nate!
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/9/3/1011462/bloody-elbow-judo-chop-antonio#storyjump

[LEONARD]

Ouch...
http://www.cagepotato.com/chris-tuchscherer-didnt-know-he-could-stop-fighting

Video...
http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Gabriel_Gonzaga_vs_Chris_Tuchscherer_UFC_102?vid= 10006234&tid=100

My dislike for Gonzaga and his stupid face is at an all-time high right now...I officially wish failure on him...

[dbreiden83080]

Ouch...
http://www.cagepotato.com/chris-tuchscherer-didnt-know-he-could-stop-fighting

Video...
http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Gabriel_Gonzaga_vs_Chris_Tuchscherer_UFC_102?vid= 10006234&tid=100

My dislike for Gonzaga and his stupid face is at an all-time high right now...I officially wish failure on him...

I had just read that descripton of the fight on Sherdog, seeing it now was just nasty..

[dallaskd]

poor guy..

[LEONARD]

If he's ever had or ever will have a worse day in his life, I would be shocked...

Nutkicked so hard he puked...then fought on got his head kicked off and GnP'd for a couple minutes...damn. I hope he gets another chance in the UFC.

And for Gonzaga to celebrate with his stupid grin…F him.