Suns to trade Amare for Al Jefferson + 6th pick

[Jeremy]

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2009/06/jefferson_on_mo.html

EDIT: The rumor was false: http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2009/06/jefferson_stayi.html

[dirk4mvp]

I didn't think it was possible, but they might just get a big who plays worse D than Amare.

[Spursfan092120]

I didn't think it was possible, but they might just get a big who plays worse D than Amare.
:lmao:lmao

6th pick might help em out though.

[jcrod]

Stupid trade on the Wolves side. Al is a great low post scorer. What more is Amare going to give, plus giving up the 6th?

[timvp]

Holy crap that would be a steal for the Suns. Jefferson is more of a championship level piece than Amare ever was or will be. Plus the sixth pick?

Sun Fan should celebrate if that comes true.

[Jeremy]

I didn't think it was possible, but they might just get a big who plays worse D than Amare.

It isn't possible. Al plays better D than Amare, come on. And he's a much, much better rebounder.

This would be an absolute steal for the Suns. It just seems too good to be true.

[Thompson]

Wow... that seems to be a great deal for the Suns. Who knows if Amare will even come back 100% from the retina surgery, that can be very difficult to recover from. Jefferson can be a really good player (whom I believe has a longer contract than Amare, keeping him tied to the Suns longer), and the 6th pick is icing on the cake.

[dirk4mvp]

It isn't possible. Al plays better D than Amare, come on. And he's a much, much better rebounder.

This would be an absolute steal for the Suns. It just seems too good to be true.


Jefferson's D is god awful.

[Rogue]

The 6th pick may turn into Ricky Rubio if the luck is good enough, and Amar'e only has one year left on his contract and isn't very likely to re-sign with a scrub team like the T-Wolves when he becomes free. It seems like the T-Wolves are using their 6th pick to get rid of a garbage contract, but Jefferson is definitely not such a burden considering his youth and potential.

[timvp]

Jefferson's D is god awful.

Normally it's pretty damn bad. But when he's trying hard, he's pretty good. He's D'ed up Duncan pretty damn well the last few seasons.

Amare's defense sucks no matter what.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Motherfucker, the Suns are doing something right.

[Thompson]

Hell if they're just trying to dump salary, we should try Oberto, Bowen (who can be cut for half their contracts) and Bonner for him, with or without the 6th. Damn, we never get in on the steals.

[timvp]

Why would the T'Wolves do this trade? Jefferson loved McHale and perhaps he asked for a trade after McHale was let go. Maybe the Timberwolves didn't want to risk Jefferson not being able to return from the torn ACL.

But Amare on a team with no playmaker and forced to play center?

Sounds like it's going to be a disaster.

[Jeremy]

Jefferson is signed through 2013? Wow.

[Udokafan05]

Lakers will probably offer Adam Morrison and t'wolves will accept.

[Jeremy]

Why would the T'Wolves do this trade? Jefferson loved McHale and perhaps he asked for a trade after McHale was let go. Maybe the Timberwolves didn't want to risk Jefferson not being able to return from the torn ACL.

But Amare on a team with no playmaker and forced to play center?

Sounds like it's going to be a disaster.

Well, Jefferson did express his displeasure with McHale being let go: http://www.twincities.com/ci_12607391?source=most_emailed

[Double-Up]

I knew the Timberwolves would fuck up the Garnett trade...dumbasses...:rolleyes

[barbacoataco]

What does thing mean for Shaq? the Suns wouldn't get rid of both.

[Thompson]

"...David Kahn is looking to take the [Wolves] into a new direction."

Hell in a handbasket?

[KSeal]

lol timberwolves

lol rick kamla

[IronMexican]

That would really suck if it was true.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

lol timberwolves

lol rick kamla

:lol

[baseline bum]

Wow. I'd trade Amare for Jefferson in a second, but to get the #6 too!?! What an enormous steal for the Suns that would be.

[IronMexican]

If this happens, it's up there with Pau Gasol level trade. Al is as skilled a 24 year old you will ever find.

[timvp]

If this happens, it's up there with Pau Gasol level trade. Al is as skilled a 24 year old you will ever find.

The Gasol equivalent would be Jefferson for Shaq's expiring contract.

[Jeremy]

Wow. I'd trade Amare for Jefferson in a second, but to get the #6 too!?! What an enormous steal for the Suns that would be.

I know! I remember just a few months ago people talking about how it was unrealistic for the Suns to able to trade Amare for Jefferson straight up.

[Thompson]

Say what you will, some people still believe Amare is a star player. I don't think anyone thought the same of Kwame Brown. As bad as this deal would be, it still pales next to the Gasol trade.

[IronMexican]

The Gasol equivalent would be Jefferson for Shaq's expiring contract.

I suppose. Al is a lot younger than Pau, though. He's a guy you can build a team around. I think we all know you can't do that with Pau.

[dirk4mvp]

If this happens, it's up there with Pau Gasol level trade. Al is as skilled a 24 year old you will ever find.

On one side of the ball.

[timvp]

I suppose. Al is a lot younger than Pau, though. He's a guy you can build a team around. I think we all know you can't do that with Pau.

Gasol took horrible teams to the playoffs. Jefferson took horrible teams nowhere.

Jefferson is younger so he gets a little bit of a bump but they are about equal in terms of trade value ... especially when you factor in the torn ACL.

[IronMexican]

Gasol took horrible teams to the playoffs. Jefferson took horrible teams nowhere.

Jefferson is younger so he gets a little bit of a bump but they are about equal in terms of trade value ... especially when you factor in the torn ACL.

I wouldn't call Gasol's team "horrible". They certainly weren't contenders. But yeah, Jefferson really hasn't shown he could lead a team to the playoffs.

[Pistons < Spurs]

I can't possibly believe this deal will happen. Far too lopsided in Phoenix's favor. It would make much more sense if it was Kevin Love & the 6th for Amare.

[BUMP]

Gasol took horrible teams to the playoffs. Jefferson took horrible teams nowhere.

Jefferson is younger so he gets a little bit of a bump but they are about equal in terms of trade value ... especially when you factor in the torn ACL.

eh... disagree a team of Gasol, Mike Miller, Jason Williams, Bonzi, Eddie Jones, Battier, and Posey is a lot better than Jefferson, older Miller, Ryan Gomes,Brewer and Love

[timvp]

eh... disagree a team of Gasol, Mike Miller, Jason Williams, Bonzi, Eddie Jones, Battier, and Posey is a lot better than Jefferson, older Miller, Ryan Gomes,Brewer and Love

When the second best player on your team is Mike Miller and you make the playoffs three years in a row ... that's pretty damn impressive. Take Gasol off those teams and they probably don't win 35 games.

[ducks]

I can't possibly believe this deal will happen. Far too lopsided in Phoenix's favor. It would make much more sense if it was Kevin Love & the 6th for Amare.

wolves gm might want his players and trade all wolves players

spurs should line up
manu for jefferson :wow

[ducks]

That would really suck if it was true.

are you afraid of the suns if they get him

[monosylab1k]

If this happens, it's up there with Pau Gasol level trade.

Not even fuckin close. Maybe if it was Jefferson + the 6th pick for that douche with the ponytail.

Why can't Lakerfan just accept that they got the biggest bullshit collusion gift in the history of basketball? You won a title because of it, be happy and accept it, don't try to deny it every chance you get.

[JamStone]

Hard to believe because Amare leaves in 2010 anyway, so the Wolves are trading Jefferson plus the #6 pick for cap space? Like they were going to attract players anyway... Are they going to trade Kevin Love and Randy Foye for Larry Hughes too?

[IronMexican]

ducks, you're penis envy is unbeavable. You always try to talk shit about the Gasol and everything Dodgers.

[BUMP]

When the second best player on your team is Mike Miller and you make the playoffs three years in a row ... that's pretty damn impressive. Take Gasol off those teams and they probably don't win 35 games.

:lol Mike Miller

and to be fair that team (the one that got swept by the Mavericks) got by with good defense. (2nd best in the NBA that year)

[ducks]

ducks, you're penis envy is unbeavable. You always try to talk shit about the Gasol and everything Dodgers.

dodgers coach
I will make manny cut hair
after manny gets their
I will let manny do what he wants
why even have torre their then

[Blackjack]

They did just fire McHale, right?

McHale must've got one last F-U off, by slipping in the paperwork as he left the door...

This would be ridiculous. I wouldn't trade Al for Amar'e straight-up.

Al is basically a smaller version of Tim offensively (not the passer yet, but should come with time) and isn't the pathetic defender Amar'e is, or that others like to claim him to be.

And they get the 6th pick?

So, the Suns would get:

A.) A better championship-type building block

B.) A much better/reasonable contract

C.) A guy who brings humility, (turned down a max contract because he felt he hadn't earned it yet) a good attitude and a better work-ethic.

D.) The 6th pick (Who could potentially be a Nash replacement or a solid contributor for years to come)

And the Wolves get:

Amar'e Stoudemire?

A one-dimensional power-forward, with an over-inflated sense of self-worth, who's likely to bolt after one year in Minnesota, (I can't see him agreeing to an extension before the trade) and a guy who puts you nowhere near contention for the upcoming year.

Jefferson's knee is either a catastrophic fail on the verge, or there's got to be some kind of shady shit going on behind the scenes, if this is true.

[monosylab1k]

dodgers coach
I will make manny cut hair
after manny gets their
I will let manny do what he wants
why even have torre their then

please die

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

:lmao

[ducks]

please die

dodgers lose again to a team not in their division

[IronMexican]

They also just won a series against a team that wasn't in their division(The Rangers)

[RedsLakers24]

WTF, whats going on, dont the suns rather have JJ Hickson? JJ Hickson is better than Al Jerferson

[ducks]

They also just won a series against a team that wasn't in their division(The Rangers)

and they are 5-5 their last 10

[KSeal]

They also just won a series against a team that wasn't in their division(The Rangers)

Stop feeding the troll yo.

[BRHornet45]

sons this would be a great trade for the Suns .... the fact that Jefferson hasn't made the All Star team in either of his last two seasons is a joke. the dude has averaged 21 points and 11 rebounds over each of the last two seasons. he should have made the team this year over David West. no doubt

[ducks]

Dodgers' eighth walk-off victory of the season, the most in baseball
their luck will stop soon
tonight they tried to pull it out again late to run this stat up and blew it

[Xylus]

Amare > Jefferson

But with the 6th pick involved, I'd do that trade in a heartbeat.

[KSeal]

Amare > Jefferson

But with the 6th pick involved, I'd do that trade in a heartbeat.

Who do you think the Suns would look to get with the pick?

[Trainwreck2100]

Who do you think the Suns would look to get with the pick?

Sarver will probably sell the pick

[wireonfire]

Amare > Jefferson

But with the 6th pick involved, I'd do that trade in a heartbeat.

AL > Amare. Amare sucks on defense, poor rebounder too.

[DPG21920]

If this happens, it's up there with Pau Gasol level trade. Al is as skilled a 24 year old you will ever find.

LMAO at you sons acting like Amare is Kwame and Pau is Jefferson.

[ginobili's bald spot]

Great trade for the Suns.

[Obstructed_View]

Gasol took horrible teams to the playoffs. Jefferson took horrible teams nowhere.

Jefferson is younger so he gets a little bit of a bump but they are about equal in terms of trade value ... especially when you factor in the torn ACL.

Gasol turned Kobe into a champion.

[KSeal]

Gasol turned Kobe into a champion.

Breaking news.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I thought Kevin McHale was fired? They apparently found the one person who would be a worse GM.

[jman3000]

Normally it's pretty damn bad. But when he's trying hard, he's pretty good. He's D'ed up Duncan pretty damn well the last few seasons.

Amare's defense sucks no matter what.

All I know of Jefferson is from what I've seen from watching him play the Spurs. From what I've seen the guy is an absolute beast. He has a very soft hook from up close and a decent 15 foot jumper. I would have thought he was a pretty good defender from what I've seen against Tim... even though I think Tim actually missed a game against the T-Wolves this season.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

We know this is a good trade merely based off the curb stomping Jefferson delivers to Amare whenever they play one another.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I seriously doubt how legitimate these rumors are. Every single person who posted in this thread knows it's a rip off for the Suns, however dumb he is Minnesota's GM can probably figure this out.

[Blackjack]

I just did some poking around (mind of the gutter pervs) and I just can't see this as legit.

Everything I've seen has Minnesota trying to decide between Evans and Curry, but that they're doing everything in their power to acquire the 2nd pick.

Add that to how lop-sided I've already mentioned I view this trade, and I won't believe it until I see it.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Amare overrated ass will disappear just like Marion did once this trade happens.

Lakaluva has it nailed. Just like Marion, he'll be exposed for not being able to create his own shot in a traditional offense. Once he left the comforts of the Antoni-Nash offense, it was pretty clear marion couldn't create wind if you gave him a fuckin windmill.

[KidCongo]

Lakaluva has it nailed. Just like Marion, he'll be exposed for not being able to create his own shot in a traditional offense. Once he left the comforts of the Antoni-Nash offense, it was pretty clear marion couldn't create wind if you gave him a fuckin windmill.

Don't windmills pump water or create electricity if you give them wind?

[Trainwreck2100]

Don't windmills pump water or create electricity if you give them wind?

you know windmills were around before commercial electricity right?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Don't windmills pump water or create electricity if you give them wind?


Stop being a douche you get my point.

[timvp]

The only way this trade is legit is if the Minnesota GM really wants to trade Jefferson for whatever reason. If he's dead set on trading Jefferson, you'd probably have to trade him for another big. If that's the case, there are that many options out there better than Amare.

But that doesn't explain the draft pick thrown in . . .

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

The only way this trade is legit is if the Minnesota GM really wants to trade Jefferson for whatever reason. If he's dead set on trading Jefferson, you'd probably have to trade him for another big. If that's the case, there are that many options out there better than Amare.

But that doesn't explain the draft pick thrown in . . .


Kevin McHale's protege must have taken over as GM.

[KidCongo]

Stop being a douche you get my point.

:lol

This would be a steal for the Suns, unless Al's knee is fucked.

[KidCongo]

you know windmills were around before commercial electricity right?

I do now.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

:lol

This would be a steal for the Suns, unless Al's knee is fucked.


Al's knee is no more fucked than Amare's eye.......or Amare's knee for that matter :lmao

[KidCongo]

Al's knee is no more fucked than Amare's eye.......or Amare's knee for that matter :lmao

Al and Amare haven't returned from this current injuries but Amar''''es knee is stable isn't it?

[timvp]

A'm'a'r'e's days are over if he loses athleticism. Jefferson probably could survive if he lost athleticism.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Al and Amare haven't returned from this current injuries but Amar''''es knee is stable isn't it?


The doctors say he's going to need another microfracture surgery in 2-3 years.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

A'm'a'r'e's days are over if he loses athleticism. Jefferson probably could survive if he lost athleticism.


Thanks for stealing my nickname.

[timvp]

Thanks for stealing my nickname.

:depressed











Stoudemir'e?

[Chieflion]

Heard about it. If its true, Kerr finally did something right.

[KSeal]

Kevin McHale's protege must have taken over as GM.

:lol It sure seems like it.

[iggypop123]

looks like kevin hasnt left quite yet. he is making deals behind closed doors

[MiamiHeat]

lol

[EricB]

The Timberwolves are closing fast on the Knicks and Clippers for worst run franchise.

[Lars]

Surely there are better deals on the table than this.
Bosh, Jamison, McGrady, Allen....?

What is the incentive for Minnesota? What the fuck new direction is he trying to go in?

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

If this happens, it's up there with Pau Gasol level trade. Al is as skilled a 24 year old you will ever find.

Oberto, Bowen, sign-and-traded Horry, Marcus Williams, rigths to Splitter + 2 1st round picks for Al Jefferson. That's more like it.

[Muser]

Is this serious?


:wow

[KSeal]

Oberto, Bowen, sign-and-traded Horry, Marcus Williams, rigths to Splitter + 2 1st round picks for Al Jefferson. That's more like it.

:rollin

[pauls931]

Makes you wonder... Is this better than the suns passing on garnet by not offering Stoudamire a year and a half back? Guess Al is a couple years younger than Amare, so that's good...

My main concern is moving forward with an aging nash that probably only has a couple more competitive years left in him. I'm not sure if Dragic can mature in time.

Seems like another big move is necessary unless they think this can stabilize the situation.

See what happens when you let mcHale go? :lol

*sigh* it's just a rumor for now, wait and see...

[sribb43]

I just wish the Target Center would get buried in the snow so that no one could ever find it again. What a dumb trade for the Wolves. I dont know whats dumber of the trades in recent Wolves history...

Brandon Roy for Randy Foye
OJ Mayo for Kevin Love
Amare for Al Jefferson + 6th pick

[sribb43]

So what happens to the deadly Nash/Amarea pick n roll? This is all but a sign that Shaq is gone. No way they can play Al and Shaq on the block at the same time. Amare played more off the pick n roll and pick n pop and could shoot from the outside to create space for Shaq

[pauls931]

So what happens to the deadly Nash/Amarea pick n roll? This is all but a sign that Shaq is gone. No way they can play Al and Shaq on the block at the same time. Amare played more off the pick n roll and pick n pop and could shoot from the outside to create space for Shaq

Like I said, I think there's at least one more big trade in the mix. Yeah, I hate giving up amare, the pick and roll when run worked well and his outside shot developed nicely after he practiced while out the microfracture season... If only he would have played D....

[Chieflion]

Now that I think more about it, it seems it would be a three-way trade with the Grizzlies.

[KidCongo]

Makes you wonder... Is this better than the suns passing on garnet by not offering Stoudamire a year and a half back? Guess Al is a couple years younger than Amare, so that's good...

My main concern is moving forward with an aging nash that probably only has a couple more competitive years left in him. I'm not sure if Dragic can mature in time.

Seems like another big move is necessary unless they think this can stabilize the situation.

See what happens when you let mcHale go? :lol

*sigh* it's just a rumor for now, wait and see...

Plenty of capable points available in the 1st round and especially if you got the 6th pick.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Idk why so many Suns fans think you need a stud PG to compete.

If the Suns get B.I.G. Al, they should trade Nash for David Lee, and then try to find a stud SG, preferrably Ty Evans. I want Shaq traded if they make this trade I just don't know what they can get.

[Mel_13]

But the truth is that there have been NO discussions between the teams about this trade.

It is a total BS made up rumor with no legs. The Suns are shopping Amare, but more than likely if they don't find a deal that they love they will keep him and deal with the alternatives at a later date.

http://ktar.com/?sid=1180772&nid=624

[pauls931]

Idk why so many Suns fans think you need a stud PG to compete.

If the Suns get B.I.G. Al, they should trade Nash for David Lee, and then try to find a stud SG, preferrably Ty Evans. I want Shaq traded if they make this trade I just don't know what they can get.

Didn't hurt your spurs.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Didn't hurt your spurs.

huh?

[pauls931]

But the truth is that there have been NO discussions between the teams about this trade.

It is a total BS made up rumor with no legs. The Suns are shopping Amare, but more than likely if they don't find a deal that they love they will keep him and deal with the alternatives at a later date.

http://ktar.com/?sid=1180772&nid=624

This is what I'm afraid of. Then again if Amare stays healthy, I won't complain.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

if Amare stays healthy

:lmao

[pauls931]

^^^
Eye injuries are basically freak incidents. You could be the healthiest guy on the planet and a 2Yo with a stick can poke you in the eye and take you out. If he was having problems with the leg he had surgery on, I'd agree with you.

[ballhog]

They're shopping Amare right now because he wants to go to NY in 2010 and play for
D'Antoni. No way the Wolves take him. Amare is overrated.

[sook]

Thats a robbery for the suns...Big Al is a monster

[pauls931]

Thats a robbery for the suns...Big Al is a monster

I'll believe it when I see it. Looks liike Al can operate better around the hoop than Amare who requires a setup from Nash.

[sook]

I'll believe it when I see it. Looks liike Al can operate better around the hoop than Amare who requires a setup from Nash.

You never seen Big Al Play?

This dude was a flat out BEAST when he did play.

Vs a good defensive C like Yao he had 30/16/2 in the first half last season :wow.

[pauls931]

You never seen Big Al Play?

This dude was a flat out BEAST when he did play.

Vs a good defensive C like Yao he had 30/16/2 in the first half last season :wow.

Never really seen him play. He's stuck in no man's land in Minnesota without the media hype of Garnet. I think the only reason the wolves would do this is to get a big name in to help get media exposure. Like it or not Amare is damn near a household name for anyone following the NBA at all.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

^^^this is true good point.

[pauls931]

^^^this is true good point.

Seriously, I bet ESPN and TNT only said Minnesota or Wolves 4 time this entire season on the air, maybe less.

[dirk4mvp]

Seriously, I bet ESPN and TNT only said Minnesota or Wolves 4 time this entire season on the air, maybe less.

I think it was less than 4. The only time I remember seeing them on nat'l tv was on nba tv.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

But the truth is that there have been NO discussions between the teams about this trade.

It is a total BS made up rumor with no legs. The Suns are shopping Amare, but more than likely if they don't find a deal that they love they will keep him and deal with the alternatives at a later date.

http://ktar.com/?sid=1180772&nid=624


Thanks for ruining my day :cry:depressed:cry

[Kamnik]

Sounds unrealistic...

Why would the wolves want to do that?!

If it is true... there must be something seriously wrong with Jefferson that is not out there in the public. Just does not make any sence..

[DPG21920]

Spurs to get Amare in 5 player swap?

AP The San Antonio Spurs appear to be on the cusp of acquiring Amare Stoudemire sources close to the Suns confirm. The hyper athletic forward is thought to be a list ditch effort for the Spurs in order to provide inside scoring and defense next to Tim Duncan. The Suns in return for Amare will be receiving hot 3 point shooters Roger Mason Jr along with shooting big man Matt Bonner. The Suns will also be receiving the rights to Tiago Splitter and seldom used Bruce Bowen and Fabricio Oberto's partially guaranteed contracts.

www.killbexpress.com

[pauls931]

www.killbexpress.com


I'd have to kill myself if that happened. I'd rather have them take Amare out to the shooting range and cap him.

[DPG21920]

It is from a viable source. Killbexpress is known around basketball circles.

[lefty]

Broken link

Great

[DPG21920]

Broken link

Great

It was a joke. Killbexpress

[lefty]

It was a joke. Killbexpress
Nice

[pauls931]

It was a joke. Killbexpress

Thank god. I was a Bonner fan until he proved to be a Boner at the end of the season.

I have a feeling in a day or two the OP will be proven just gossip.

[DPG21920]

lol, I just did it because it sounded about as reasonable as the initial trade. Made it look professional though...

[dirk4mvp]

lol, props for that fishsticks.

[DPG21920]

lol, props for that fishsticks.

Ha ha ha, you use stupid cartoon show jokes.

[LnGrrrR]

Ha ha ha, you use stupid cartoon show jokes.

Don't you get it? Why won't you get it? You're a gay fish...

:lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I admit DPG had me fooled.

lol fishsticks.

[DPG21920]

I admit DPG had me fooled.

lol fishsticks.

Its what I do. Not the fishsticks.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Minnesota just announced Big Daddy Jefferson is going nowhere. fuck.

[pauls931]

Minnesota just announced Big Daddy Jefferson is going nowhere. fuck.

Figures, sounded too good to be true with the 6th pick thrown in. Gorilla time!!!

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Gorilla time!!!


I wouldn't call watching a blind douche sitting in his ghetto outfits at the end of the bench because of an injury gorilla time.

[pauls931]

Minnesota just announced Big Daddy Jefferson is going nowhere. fuck.

btw, where did you find this? I tried googling and just see Suns and Wolves fan arguing over who's getting screwed.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

btw, where did you find this? I tried googling and just see Suns and Wolves fan arguing over who's getting screwed.


I didn't find it, my friend said the Boston Globe is reporting it and there's no real reason why he would make that up.

[sribb43]

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2009/06/jefferson_stayi.html

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

If most Minnesota fans think this trade helps their team that is one mentally retarded fan base.

[DPG21920]

"The Suns sure seem interested in moving him..." I would be as well if I could get a better player and the 6th pick.

[pauls931]

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2009/06/jefferson_stayi.html

Thanks.

[Trainwreck2100]

When Amare finds out the suns are trying to trade him he's going to be quite affronted

[xtremesteven33]

/thread

[kcplayboi_26]

"The Suns sure seem interested in moving him..." I would be as well if I could get a better player and the 6th pick.

Yea that 6th pick would just be the icing, Wolves would be getting a bigger name and a "all star".....................

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

When Amare finds out the suns are trying to trade him he's going to be quite affronted


His reaction to the possibility of trades is always good for a laugh. The best was when he said whatever team he goes to better be ready for a title run.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

If Minnesota is actually saying, "We'll do Jefferson for Amare, but we're not trading the 6th pick," Kerr better say fine and pull the trigger. Jefferson for Amare straight up is still a rip off for the Suns.

[manufor3]

what a steal this would be!!!

[Trainwreck2100]

His reaction to the possibility of trades is always good for a laugh. The best was when he said whatever team he goes to better be ready for a title run.

....in the opposite direction

[sribb43]

His reaction to the possibility of trades is always good for a laugh. The best was when he said whatever team he goes to better be ready for a title run.

:lol

[JustBlaze]

Plus the 6th pick? Holy shit, Minny can't be that stupid, right? If this trade goes through and Amare gets hurt all over again next season...Minny...huge fail.:lol:lmao

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I think what he means is the team better win a title really quickly cause the longer he's on the team dividing the locker room the smaller their chances of winning a title get.

[layupdrill]

Wolves supposedly have declined the deal..hmm wonder why? lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Wolves supposedly have declined the deal..hmm wonder why? lol


Beats me.......who wouldn't want to trade the best young post-up big man in basketball with a great character and work ethic for a blind gorilla that all of his teammates hate?

[Mal]

Are Minny retarded ? Good young forward, for fucking Amare, and also give them 6th pick ?? I don`t get it ? Isn`t Amare free agent next year ? Minny giving future for such moron ? aaaaaa

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Are Minny retarded ?


:lmao

[Eminem]

i don't know what it is, but Amar'e is a force to be reckoned with.

[jacobdrj]

Wow. This is a good trade for the Suns...

McHale is out and the Wolves are still doing stooopid... I guess now that Isiah is out of NY, and Elgin is out of the Clippers, and Jordan is basically stripped of his GM powers, the new whipping boy for the NBA is going to be the T-Wolves... Making Kerr look good...

[jacobdrj]

Wolves supposedly have declined the deal..hmm wonder why? lol

Damn!

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Seriously though, getting ripped of in a trade by Steve Kerr would be like getting shower raped by the biggest bitch in the prison who up until that point has always been the one getting butt raped.

[Chillen]

I heard this trade was cancelled, Minny backed out. Thank heavens. That would be highway robbery for Phoenix (Jefferson and the 6th pick in the NBA draft).

[iggypop123]

i guess they finally escorted mchale off their facilities and they came to their senses. what a stupid trade

[rAm]

I heard this trade was cancelled, Minny backed out. Thank heavens. That would be highway robbery for Phoenix (Jefferson and the 6th pick in the NBA draft).

(thanks for reminding us what was on the table for this trade... it isn't in the title of the thread or in the title of each post or anything)

[RedsLakers24]

JJ Hickson >>>>> Al Jeferson

[Leetonidas]

I think someone showed Minnesota's FO this thread.

[Allanon]

Two guys with great offense and sucky defense. Grass is Greener kind of Lateral move.

And while we're at it, you could almost throw Chris Bosh into that category...a bit better D than those two but still pretty bad.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Two guys with great offense and sucky defense. Grass is Greener kind of Lateral move.


Amare's offense is the epitome of overrated.

[024]

jefferson would look even better next to a legitimate, defensive center. he doesn't try on defense because he is exhausted on offense but he does play good defense when he really tries. he's also mostly forced to play as center and would be pretty good if moved to his real position at PF. all this would fix his defensive gaps and he definitely plays better defense than amare.

[RonMexico]

Jefferson is not great at D, but the guy works at his game a lot more than Amare does... Amare has developed a nice midrange jumper and has a high FT percentage, but when he's not getting dunks or nailing 15 footers, he just zones out of the entire game and he has no go-to low post move to get out of a slump.

[KidCongo]

JJ Hickson >>>>> Al Jeferson


WTF, whats going on, dont the suns rather have JJ Hickson? JJ Hickson is better than Al Jerferson

Same joke twice in the same thread, dam, I know you got to try be funny but change threads at least.

[pauls931]

can someone just delete this thread?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

^agreed it's too depressing.

[ffadicted]

Amare's offense is the epitome of overrated.

Amare's offense breakdown:

75% Steve Nash

20% Suns style of play

5% Legitimate skill

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Amare's offense breakdown:

75% Steve Nash

20% Suns style of play

5% Legitimate skill


This is true.

[N4th4n]

Amare's offense breakdown:

75% Steve Nash

20% Suns style of play

5% Legitimate skill

03-04 The year before Steve Nash came to the Suns. Also worth noting Amare's second year in the league: 20.6 PPG

This was before he developed much of is arsenal and while playing on a team WITH NO POINT GUARD. This was also before SSOL was instituted.

Obviously he can create offense by himself. QED

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

^If D'antoni let him keep developing his game past that year, then he would have turned into a great individual big man.

Instead, Antoni turned Amare into a one dimensional player dependent on Nash and an up tempo system.

[ffadicted]

^If D'antoni let him keep developing his game past that year, then he would have turned into a great individual big man.

Instead, Antoni turned Amare into a one dimensional player dependent on Nash and an up tempo system.

This is also true

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

This is also true


Yup.....if Joe Johnson stayed in Phoenix he'd have the same problem Amare has and would have never developed his great off the dribble game.