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duncan228
06-21-2009, 12:13 PM
Top 10 second-round selections of the Draft Lottery Era (http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/fran_blinebury/06/19/draft.bargains/)
By Fran Blinebury, for NBA.com

Who doesn't like a bargain?

Who doesn't love the fantasy notion of finding a Picasso hiding under the black-and-white photo of Aunt Millie's family reunion that you picked up for a couple bucks at a flea market?

So while there is still so much scrambling going on at the top of the 2009 NBA Draft as the crowd behind Blake Griffin seems to change every day like dice rolling out at a craps table, from Ricky Rubio to Hasheem Thabeet to Jrue Holiday to Jonny Flynn to James Harden, it might be wise to remember that names called out much later on draft night.

They're the second-rounders, who have much smaller salaries, but often make big impacts. Remember, the Lakers (Trevor Ariza) and Magic (Rashard Lewis) had second-round draft picks in their starting lineups in The Finals. Mario Chalmers started all 82 games for the Heat. Leon Powe and Glen "Big Baby" Davis both were key reserves in the Celtics' drive to the 2008 title.

With so many teams looking so carefully at every dollar in the payrolls, talk is that second-round choices could become valuable commodities, if a front office makes the right picks. Let's run down a list of arguably the top 10 second-round selections of the Draft Lottery Era (since 1984).

10 -- Cedric Ceballos (Phoenix, 1990) -- You have to look beyond the blind-folded dunk that took top honors in the 1992 All-Star Game and remember that the 48th pick was much more than just a circus act. He led the Suns in field-goal percentage in 1992-93 when Phoenix went to The Finals and was an All-Star in '95 when he rang up the first 50-point game by a member of the Lakers in over 20 years.

9 -- Michael Redd (Milwaukee, 2000) -- The lefty out of Ohio State tip-toed quietly into the league as the 43rd pick, averaging 2.2 points as a rookie and then setting a record by increasing his scoring average six years in a row until he was pouring in 26.7 a game in '07. He joined Kobe Bryant and Gilbert Arenas as the only players to notch a pair of 50-point games in 2006-07 and won a gold medal with Team USA at the Beijing Olympics last summer.

8 -- Jerome Kersey (Portland, 1984) -- He finally picked up a championship ring in San Antonio near the end of his 17-year career. But it was those 11 seasons with the Blazers where the 46th pick out of Division II Longwood College where Kersey was known as a voracious rebounder, great finisher on the fastbreak and tenacious defender.

7 -- Rashard Lewis -- (Seattle, 1998) -- The story was often retold during The Finals of how then-teenager Lewis sat in the green room in tears on draft night as his name slipped down the board into the second round. By the time the Sonics scooped him up with the 32nd pick, he'd been passed over three times by his hometown Houston Rockets (Michael Dickerson, Bryce Drew, Mirsad Turkcan). He's spent the past 11 seasons becoming a two-time All-Star, cashed in with a $118-million contract and hit numerous big shots in Orlando's run to The Finals.

6 -- Mark Price (Dallas, 1986) -- The Mavericks seemed to know exactly what they were doing when they made Price the first pick of the second round after his three All-American seasons at Georgia Tech. The Mavs then showed they didn't know what they had when they promptly traded him away to Cleveland, where he helped turn the Cavs into Eastern Conference contenders. He was All-NBA first team in '93 and his career mark of 90.3 percent from the free-throw line is a league record.

5 -- Carlos Boozer (Cleveland, 2002) -- The Cavs figured they had a blossoming star with the 35th pick in the draft and all was going well until the snafu with his contract that resulted in Boozer going to Utah. Though injuries have cost him large parts of seasons with the Jazz, when he's right, Boozer is a consistent low-post scorer and rebounder who mixes in that high-arcing jumper. The two-time All-Star won a gold medal at the 2008 Olympics.

4 -- Jeff Hornacek -- (Phoenix, 1986) -- Did anybody ever fully appreciate what they had in Hornacek when he first entered a room? He was a walk-on at Iowa State and the Suns finally made him the 46th pick of the draft. He quickly carved out a reputation as one of the game's top long-range shooters. After playing in Phoenix and Philadelphia, he became the perfect complement to Karl Malone and John Stockton on the Jazz teams that went to back-to-back NBA Finals. He won the All-Star 3-point Shootout in 1998 and 2000.

3 -- Gilbert Arenas -- (Golden State, 2001) -- Long before he became known as Agent Zero and pioneered blogging among pro athletes, Arenas jumped right into the NBA and let everyone know what he could do, which was often whatever he wanted. He was named Most Improved Player in '03 and on his way to being a three-time All-Star. After making a belated return to the court following knee surgery last March, Arenas should be ready physically to return to his place as one of the top offensive guns with the Wizards.

2 -- Dennis Rodman (Detroit, 1986) -- He couldn't shoot and didn't really want to shoot. But Rodman could do anything else that you'd ever want from the moment he stepped onto the court for the Pistons. Never mind the dyed hair and the outfits, he was one of the best to ever play on anybody's frontline. Rodman won five championships with the Pistons and Bulls, was twice named Defensive Player of the Year and seven times was an All-Defensive First Team pick. In his 13 NBA seasons, he averaged 13.1 rebounds a game.

1 -- Manu Ginobili (San Antonio, 1999) -- How shrewd were the Spurs to scoop Ginobili up with the 57th pick and left him ripen on the vine for a few more years in Spain. His impact was immediate as soon as he came into the San Antonio mix as the Spurs won the title in his rookie season with him as the attacker, the scorer, the shooter, the playmaker. He's been the jalapeno in their salsa, an Olympic and World Champion with his native Argentina, and a three-time champ with the Spurs. All you need to know about his impact is that when Ginobili is not healthy, the Spurs are not contenders.

Also receiving consideration:

Nick Van Exel (Lakers, 1993)
Trevor Ariza (New York, 2004)
Kevin Duckworth (San Antonio, 1986)
Antonio Davis (Indiana, 1990)
Eric Snow (Milwaukee, 1995)

Vinnie_Johnson
06-21-2009, 12:19 PM
James White?

Allanon
06-21-2009, 12:50 PM
1 -- Manu Ginobili (San Antonio, 1999) -- How shrewd were the Spurs to scoop Ginobili up with the 57th pick and left him ripen on the vine for a few more years in Spain. His impact was immediate as soon as he came into the San Antonio mix as the Spurs won the title in his rookie season with him as the attacker, the scorer, the shooter, the playmaker. He's been the jalapeno in their salsa, an Olympic and World Champion with his native Argentina, and a three-time champ with the Spurs. All you need to know about his impact is that when Ginobili is not healthy, the Spurs are not contenders.


Picking Ginobili at 57 was shrewd as hell. Letting him ripen in Spain was not.

If the Spurs had taken Ginobili right away back in 99, they could have given the Lakers a run for their money during the 3-peat.

bdictjames
06-21-2009, 01:18 PM
Picking Ginobili at 57 was shrewd as hell. Letting him ripen in Spain was not.

If the Spurs had taken Ginobili right away back in 99, they could have given the Lakers a run for their money during the 3-peat.
He probably would not have much playing time, as a 57th pick, and on a team of veterans, as much as he is on Spain. (I thought he played in the Italian League).

He won most improved player, after the draft, 3 straight years, until the Spurs got him. By that time he was already a star.

baseline bum
06-21-2009, 01:25 PM
Picking Ginobili at 57 was shrewd as hell. Letting him ripen in Spain was not.

If the Spurs had taken Ginobili right away back in 99, they could have given the Lakers a run for their money during the 3-peat.

Ginobili was a nobody in '99 and wasn't anywhere close to NBA level. If I remember right, RC said something like he was the worst defensive player he'd ever seen when scouting him. He could have tremendously helped in '01-'02, but the previous two years he was too raw to see much time at the NBA level. He for sure wouldn't have helped in 99-00, and the gap between the Spurs and Lakers in 01 wouldn't even come close to being filled by a 50% of present Ginobili.

Allanon
06-21-2009, 01:29 PM
I see what you guys mean bdictjames and BB. I just think he could have contributed regardless. Yah, Pop doesn't really like bringing on young players and all.

But if you look at the Lakers, Ariza couldn't shoot to save his life and became a Starter in 1 year and a superb 3 point shooter in the Playoffs. Shannon Brown never played for the Cavs or Bobcats and gets bigtime Playoff minutes just a couple months after getting traded to the Lakers.

I think if the talent is there, it will show and Manu was always extremely talented.

Pero
06-21-2009, 01:37 PM
(I thought he played in the Italian League).


He did. :rolleyes

Medvedenko
06-21-2009, 03:29 PM
The first time I saw Manu play on the spurs, I knew the lakers were going to be in trouble. He had that x factor you see in special players. A game changer on both ends and a great teammate.

The TroutBum
06-21-2009, 03:52 PM
Boozer is a bitch. I hope he dies.

wireonfire
06-21-2009, 05:12 PM
Scola?

Spursfan092120
06-21-2009, 05:31 PM
The first time I saw Manu play on the spurs, I knew the lakers were going to be in trouble. He had that x factor you see in special players. A game changer on both ends and a great teammate.
Now if only we can keep him on the court for a full season

:depressed

Spursfan092120
06-21-2009, 05:32 PM
Scola?
of all time? Seriously? Not so much.

Spursfan092120
06-21-2009, 05:35 PM
I think Stephen Jackson belongs in there...maybe Cuttino Mobley or Clifford Robinson...but I guess these guys did more than them..I don't know.

Spurtacus
06-21-2009, 09:35 PM
Shit, didn't know Rodman was a second rounder!

Ariel
06-21-2009, 11:52 PM
Ginobili was a nobody in '99 and wasn't anywhere close to NBA level. If I remember right, RC said something like he was the worst defensive player he'd ever seen when scouting him. He could have tremendously helped in '01-'02, but the previous two years he was too raw to see much time at the NBA level. He for sure wouldn't have helped in 99-00, and the gap between the Spurs and Lakers in 01 wouldn't even come close to being filled by a 50% of present Ginobili.
Agreed, Manu was nowhere near ready back in 99. I remember watching him at the 2001 tournament of the americas in Neuquen and he was terrific, I think it was by then he reached NBA level.

TimDunkem
06-21-2009, 11:55 PM
The first time I saw Manu play on the spurs, I knew the lakers were going to be in trouble. He had that x factor you see in special players. A game changer on both ends and a great teammate.
He was producing as soon as he got on the floor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYLmR4AvUTc

GSH
06-22-2009, 12:07 AM
I almost hate to say this, but Luis Scola probably deserves a mention on this list. Maybe two seasons isn't long enough. But if he plays a few more years at the same rate of production, I think people will have to recognize that he's a hell of a contributor for a second round pick.

Medvedenko
06-22-2009, 01:33 AM
He was producing as soon as he got on the floor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYLmR4AvUTc

great find. :)