Breaking: Rondo traded to memphis

[Lake_show]

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=916765

Deal's almost done from what I hear.

[Cry Havoc]

If this isn't true I hope you're pinked.

[Rogue]

seems the Grizzlies are about to be robbed again. I wonder when Mayo will get traded to Lakers for Walton or Morrison.

[ginobili's bald spot]

No fuckin way! That can NOT be true. Rudy Gay are you kidding me?

[mardigan]

Rondo, Scal, Giddens for Gay and Conley

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Holy shit. Biggest trading day I can remember.

[Lake_show]

^^For real.

[ginobili's bald spot]

I'm calling BS on this one.

[MaNu4Tres]

That trade makes no sense.

[Cry Havoc]

Any actual confirmation of this other than Real GM speculation?

[N4th4n]

I doubt this is true. Absolutly terrible trade for the Grizz.

[Spurtacus]

No way...

[KSeal]

Sucks I'm banned from the Real GM boards, I can't even read this. What's the trade?

[IronMexican]

I call BS.

[DPG21920]

Rudy Gay was terrible last year (by his standards) and Conley played ok. But Pierce is the SF, where would Rudy play? Off the bench? Ya right...

This would be a good trade for Memphis imo.

[Rogue]

Maybe the Grizzlies will also gift their pick to Boston as well.

[ginobili's bald spot]

When a real GM poster is your only source... it's bullshit.

[gaKNOW!blee]

Theres no way they break up Gay and Mayo. I call BS.

[Spurtacus]

Theres no way they break up Gay and Mayo. I call BS.

For real. First it was Gay Love now Gay Mayo?

[Cry Havoc]

Sucks I'm banned from the Real GM boards, I can't even read this. What's the trade?

Rondo/Scalabrine/Giddens to Memphis For Rudy gay and Mike Conley.


Edit: They are saying that it's still not done but the deal is very likely.

[mardigan]

I cant see any reason why Memphis would do this, it would be idiotic. Then again, it is Memphis.

[TheMACHINE]

Spurs should trade Jefferson for Mayo...then it'll truly be Gay Jefferson

[JamStone]

Rudy Gay was terrible last year (by his standards) and Conley played ok. But Pierce is the SF, where would Rudy play? Off the bench? Ya right...

This would be a good trade for Memphis imo.


Not that I believe the rumor, but if it were true, I would figure the Celtics would be trying to move Ray Allen as well. And, Rudy or Pierce could play the 2-guard.

[dirk4mvp]

I'll believe it when it actually happens. Until then, fuck you op.

[Artest93]

Is it christmas already?

[gaKNOW!blee]

Im gonna send this to Rudy Gay's twitter, and see what he says lol

(yes I have twitter, i dont know why)

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Spurs should trade Jefferson for Mayo...then it'll truly be Gay Jefferson

I think I just pissed myself :lmao

[KSeal]

Rondo/Scalabrine/Giddens to Memphis For Rudy gay and Mike Conley.


Edit: They are saying that it's still not done but the deal is very likely.

Thanks

That seems like a really strange trade.

[IronMexican]

I like this trade for Memphis.

Conley kind of sucks. And right now, Rondo > Gay.

[Spurtacus]

Gay Garnett does have a ring to it.

[duncan228]

Not finding anything else on this yet.

This is from this morning's Boston Globe, after the Celtics/Pistons trade was shot down.


Ainge weighs in on trade rumors (http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2009/06/report_celtics_2.html)

The Celtics rumor mill churned out a blockbuster this morning, though to hear Danny Ainge tell it, any whispered deal is unlikely to become reality.

Unidentified league sources told Yahoo Sports's Adrian Wojnarowski that the Celtics offered guard Ray Allen and Rajon Rondo to the Pistons in exchange for a package that would include forward Tayshaun Price, and guards Richard Hamilton and Rodney Stuckey. The sources said the Pistons immediately rejected the potential trade.

When asked about the rumor this morning during a press conference at the team's facility in Waltham, Ainge did not offer a denial of the specific report, but strongly indicated he does not expect to deal Rondo, the remarkably talented but erratic 23-year-old point guard.

“We love Rajon and I’m not going to comment on which rumors are true or not true," said Ainge, the Celtics' president of basketball operations. "We love this kid and I don’t anticipate trading anyone from our core."

According to Wojnarowski, Ainge and Detroit general manager Joe Dumars never discussed the deal. Instead, Ainge delegated making the proposal to another Celtics executive over the weekend. When Detroit immediately rejected the proposal, there was no reason for Ainge and Dumars to discuss the deal.

While Ainge did not deny that Rondo's name comes up in trade conversations -- "We've had discussions, but there's discussions every day," he said -- he suggested it would be difficult to get a player in return who could help the Celtics win immediately.

"If you look at a trade rumor and if you think it makes us a better team and helps us to win a championship this year, that's the first criteria that any trade rumor has to pass -- that it has to help us win the championship this year," he said.

As Wojnarowski noted in the Yahoo report, it is not unusual for a GM to have someone else in the front office float a trade on his behalf, just to provide some level of deniability if a rumor becomes public. To a degree, that's the approach Ainge took today.

"We're certainly not doing anything this year to get a draft pick that's a developmental project that is going to prevent us winning a championship this year," Ainge said. "I've had many conversations. But a rumor that said lower-level executives are talking about a trade rumor pretty much means it doesn't really have any merit or any value, if it's not being discussed at the top."

Ainge acknowledged that no player is untradable, but said the Celtics will most likely retain all of their core players while looking to add a veteran or two to the bench. He said he sees no reason to shake up a team already built to make a run at a championship.

"We've won 128 games in the last two years," Ainge said. "This year, we won 62 and had major injuries. We're a championship contender, for sure, in the last few years and we feel like we're going to be better this year -- we'll have a better team on the court."

There has been speculation that the confident Rondo's attitude has rubbed some within the Celtics organization the wrong way. Ainge said that is far from the case.

“That stuff is so false," Ainge said of Rondo, who averaged 11.9 points, 8.2 assists and 5.2 rebounds in the regular season, and had three triple-doubles in the Celtics' playoff run this season.

As for Allen, the six-time All-Star shooting guard has been mentioned in trade talks even more frequently than Rondo this summer. Allen, who will soon turn 34, has an expiring contract of nearly $20 million, for next season, which is appealing to teams looking to clear cap space for the monster free-agent class of 2010.

The contracts of both Rondo ($3.7 million) and Allen ($19.7 million) expire after next season.

Stuckey ($1.8 million) is signed through 2010 with a $2.7 million team option for 2011, Prince's deal (average of $10.7 million per season) expires at the end of the 2011 season, and Hamilton is under contract through 2012 (at an average of about $11.3 million per season).

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

My guess is Ainge went into panic mode after Detroit rejected that trade because Rondo demanded a trade and it led to this. if it's true they still got a great deal.

[DPG21920]

Not that I believe the rumor, but if it were true, I would figure the Celtics would be trying to move Ray Allen as well. And, Rudy or Pierce could play the 2-guard.

True, but I do not think Rudy can play the two. Pierce possibly, but still risky from my p.o.v.

[Cry Havoc]

Normally I fully agree with the stuff you post, D228, but I think it's becoming less of a secret (no secret) that the Celtics are shopping Rondo. When that's one of the leading stories on both Around the Horn, PTI, AND is generating this kind of talk on NBA boards across the country, it sure sounds like Boston is trying to find a new home for Rondo.

I don't know if I blame them. I doubt he'll actually continue to improve from last season's performance. I could be wrong, but I just don't see Rondo as a franchise player. That said, I'm not sure about trading him straight away after he was your best player in the playoffs.

[ginobili's bald spot]

My guess is Ainge went into panic mode after Detroit rejected that trade because Rondo demanded a trade and it led to this. if it's true they still got a great deal.

No way this is true.

[DPG21920]

I like this trade for Memphis.

Conley kind of sucks. And right now, Rondo > Gay.

I agree. Rondo/OJ is a nice back court with a good mix of tools. Depending on who they can get with the number 2 pick (another SF), then this could be very nice.

[Cry Havoc]

I seriously doubt this deal is gonna happen.

[tomtom]

that trade makes no sense.

+1

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

No way this is true.

We'll see.....I still don't get why Memphis does this but if it's true we can start making our LA vs. Boston 2010 finals jerseys.

[Spurtacus]

I doubt this is true but perhaps the #2 pick and cash were thrown in.

[IronMexican]

How does this help Boston for 2010? Conley isn't good. I thought Gay was going to tear shit up last year, but didn't.

[ffadicted]

I call bull fucking shit on this man.

Rondo for Conley, sure
that leaves Scalabrine and Giddens for Rudy Gay

.....

Scalabrine and Giddens for Rudy Fucking Gay. This has got to be bullshit.

[KSeal]

Rondo and Mayo would be a pretty damn sexy backcourt. I really can't see this actually happening though.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

How does this help Boston for 2010? Conley isn't good. I thought Gay was going to tear shit up last year, but didn't.


Conley is no worse than Rondo in 2008......at the very least it helps them cause Pierce doesn't get burned out playing 39 MPG this year.

[mardigan]

How does this help Boston for 2010? Conley isn't good. I thought Gay was going to tear shit up last year, but didn't.

Shit, 19 and 6 is pretty good, and he's only like 22.
And Conley was pretty decent last year as well, 11 and 4, and he's only 21. And neither of them has ever played with a vet who could help them out.

[IronMexican]

I could see this move if Boston's big 3 were all 28, but they are old now. And right now, I feel Rondo is better than both of them. Conley putting up 11/4 in a pretty open offense is ok.

[iggypop123]

thread has been locked. smells like spursdynasty or BS

[mardigan]

I could see this move if Boston's big 3 were all 28, but they are old now. And right now, I feel Rondo is better than both of them. Conley putting up 11/4 in a pretty open offense is ok.

Yea but they are all old, and if you can get a wash at point and get a replacement for one of your old guys, I think you do it.

[dirk4mvp]

Conley isn't bad. He made stides last season. He's only going to get better.

[KSeal]

Rondo and Conley are a wash? News to me.

[Hornets1]

If this is true, Rubio wont have to worry about going to memphis. OKC should start shopping westbrook because of his current value

[mardigan]

Rondo and Conley are a wash? News to me.

Conleys a little younger, and took strides last season similar to what Rondo did his second season. In the long run, it will probably be about even.

[IronMexican]

Yea but they are all old, and if you can get a wash at point and get a replacement for one of your old guys, I think you do it.

A wash at PG? I think Rondo is a lot better, plus, he has more upside. And I could see Gay being a possible replacement for Pierce, though.

[Sense]

I'm calling BS on this one.

i call bs

[sribb43]

BS...if it does happen another fuckin' gift wrapped by Chris Wallace

[KSeal]

I love Chris Wallace.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Conley isn't bad. He made stides last season. He's only going to get better.


I agree here. He's only played 2 f'n seasons, it's ridiculous to already declare him a bust.

[sook]

bull fucking shit.

[Heath Ledger]

If the
C's traded away their only great white hope the city will burn tonight.

[Lp26]

BS...if it does happen another fuckin' gift wrapped by Chris Wallace

He's obviously a fan of the Lakers/Celtics finals or he's working for Stern under the guise of being the "GM" of Memphis b/c seriously who watches Memphis?

[21_Blessings]

I think Rondo is massively overrated. His jumper is terrible and I don't think he has a hope in the world to fix it. When I watched him play Chicago and he did play well; I just couldn't stop thinking to myself how much better Derek Rose looked doing point guard things. Rondo is a weirdly good at rebounding but a team doesn't need their PG to grab that many rebounds. If they do, then you aren't winning a thing. Rondo's inconsistency is the biggest issue with me. Sometimes he pulls a Lamar Odom and completely vanishes. A few of those Orlando games he was absolutely nowhere to be found.


I could see this move if Boston's big 3 were all 28, but they are old now. And right now, I feel Rondo is better than both of them. Conley putting up 11/4 in a pretty open offense is ok.

You have to look at Conley's numbers post all-star break when they truly gave him the reins. Nearly 15 and 6

[KSeal]

So this is officially bullshit or what.

[baseline bum]

Troll thread. RealGM locked the thread because it was crap.

[ginobili's bald spot]

Some of you are so gullible believing real GM rumors. :lol

[monosylab1k]

A wash at PG? I think Rondo is a lot better, plus, he has more upside.

???? Rondo is alot better at the moment, but his ceiling is nowhere near as high as Conley's. And Rondo has basically already hit his ceiling, he isn't going to get any better.

Rondo is at his ceiling and he's at best a borderline All-Star. Mike Conley's ceiling is a better shooting Tony Parker.

[MaNu4Tres]

???? Rondo is alot better at the moment, but his ceiling is nowhere near as high as Conley's. And Rondo has basically already hit his ceiling, he isn't going to get any better.

Rondo is at his ceiling and he's at best a borderline All-Star. Mike Conley's ceiling is a better shooting Tony Parker.

Rondo is not at his ceiling. He has lots of room for improvement especially with his 3 point shot and shooting off the dribble.

[rayray2k8]

Just a rumor...
I think the Jefferson trade may have set off a domino effect by having GM's attempting to shuffle their rosters..
Don't be surprised to see teams exchanging in the draft.

[monosylab1k]

Rondo is not at his ceiling. He has lots of room for improvement especially with his 3 point shot and shooting off the dribble.

Yeah it only took Jason Kidd 13 years to figure that part of his game out.

[poop]

THIS JUST IN:!!!!!!:

memphis sending Mayo to the lakers for sasha and a towel boy

[KSeal]

THIS JUST IN:!!!!!!:

memphis sending Mayo to the lakers for sasha and a towel boy

That kind of joke has been made about five trillion times by now. Not really funny anymore. After the RJ trade, Spur fans can't talk shit anymore about steals anyways.

[Chieflion]

That kind of joke has been made about five trillion times by now. Not really funny anymore. After the RJ trade, Spur fans can't talk shit anymore about steals anyways.
Now Milwaukee essentially kept Sessions and Charlie. It is called addition by subtraction. On the other hand, I have no idea what Memphis was trying to accomplish with the Gasol trade.

[KSeal]

Now Milwaukee essentially kept Sessions and Charlie. It is called addition by subtraction. On the other hand, I have no idea what Memphis was trying to accomplish with the Gasol trade.

Marc Gasol, 2 first round picks, cap space.

Cap space.

[SouthTexasRancher]

Spurs should trade Jefferson for Mayo...then it'll truly be Gay Jefferson


Nah, the Lakers should trade Kobe to the Spurs so he can win another ring.

[bostonguy]

Yeah Memphis is going to give us a rising star in Gay for Rondo? I love Rondo but comon. Ray Allen as a 6th man then??? :lol:lol trade will only happen on nba 2k9

[layupdrill]

The Real GM boards strike again lol

[Sissiborgo]

Pretty good trade for the celtics!

[LnGrrrR]

Eh, I don't like it. I will stick to my belief that Rondo hasn't reached his full potential yet.

[2Cleva]

*While there has been talk around the NBA from several scouts that the Celtics have been shopping guard Rajon Rondo, he isn't expected to be dealt. While unlikely, one Eastern Conference executive said the latest trade rumor included Rondo and forward Brian Scalabrine going to Memphis for guard Mike Conley and swingman Rudy Gay.

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2009/06/spears_latest_d.html?s_campaign=8315

[dirk4mvp]

Rondo could be a great point guard and perhaps a better player than Gay.



No way.