View Full Version : Bring Gooden back?
spursfan1000
06-24-2009, 12:04 AM
I would like to see Gooden back with the spurs next year. I was really impressed with him last year, any1 else in favor of bringing him back?
PG: Parker
SG: Manu
SF: Jefferson
PF: Gooden
C: Duncan
bigdog
06-24-2009, 12:05 AM
I'm in favor, but let's see what else we can get through trades, first.
I was saying that I'd bring him back for the right price, but with RC's recent comments, I think they'd actually pay the full MLE to sign another big or keep Gooden.
MaNu4Tres
06-24-2009, 12:06 AM
I rather have a defensive minded/ rebounding piece at the starting 5 spot. Camby via trade plus Sheed or McDyess with the MLE would be my ultimate fantasy dream that could be more realistic than people think. Maybe I'm being too selfish.
Ditty
06-24-2009, 12:07 AM
well i dunno anymore espically if we dont have his bird rights
bigdog
06-24-2009, 12:08 AM
I rather have a defensive minded/ rebounding piece at the starting 5 spot. Camby via trade plus Sheed or McDyess with the MLE would be my ultimate fantasy dream that could be more realistic than people think. Maybe I'm being too selfish.
I get what you're saying. I'd still like to have someone outside of Duncan with some type of low-post game, though.
It would be perfect if we could keep Gooden for the LLE, and get a defensive/rebounding Center with the MLE
MaNu4Tres
06-24-2009, 12:10 AM
I get what you're saying. I'd still like to have someone outside of Duncan with some type of low-post game, though.
It would be perfect if we could keep Gooden for the LLE, and get a defensive/rebounding Center with the MLE
I just thought Gooden's shot selection hurt the flow of our offense. Yes he is talented offensively, but so was Ron Mercer.
I rather use or MLE or LLE on defensive players now that we are getting Richard Jefferson and Manu for next years squad.
bless1187
06-24-2009, 12:14 AM
I wouldn't mind having D. Gooden back at a fair price which is probably between 3-5 mil per year. If you look at his age, size, and skills, he is by far the more talented player than most of the available big for the MLE, but the one thing against him is really his basketball IQ; and to be honest, he's actually a decent individual defender, but it's his team defense that needs work to do.
franceout
06-24-2009, 12:16 AM
is zaza an overall better player than gooden?
bigdog
06-24-2009, 12:19 AM
is zaza an overall better player than gooden?
I don't know about that. I think Gooden has everything that Zaza lacks, and Zaza has some stuff that Gooden lacks.
If Zaza and Gooden became one, that would be a pretty damn good player.
spursfan1000
06-24-2009, 12:20 AM
Gooden would be better defensively with the Spurs next season if he returned cause he would have the whole summer to get a customed to the Spurs defense and would gain some chemistry.
barbacoataco
06-24-2009, 12:21 AM
I don't think the Spurs were overwhelmed with Gooden given the fact that they still played Bonner over him so much.
franceout
06-24-2009, 12:22 AM
If Zaza and Gooden became one, that would be a pretty damn good player.
that man is called Rasheed Wallace:lol
bdictjames
06-24-2009, 12:23 AM
We need a 7 foot presence out there. Trade for a 7 foot presence.
bigdog
06-24-2009, 12:24 AM
We need a 7 foot presence out there. Trade for a 7 foot presence.
A "7 foot presence" does not come around very often. It's hard to find them.
Marcus Bryant
06-24-2009, 12:28 AM
In a perfect world, they end up with a mobile rebounding and shotblocking big to start alongside TD. I'm not sure they can pull that rabbit out of a hat, unless, of course, they're willing to take another big deal back in a trade.
Gooden might indeed be brought back, but I think that's if other options disappear.
What's forgotten is that he did play injured during his time in SA. I think that may have been a factor in his dwindling PT at the end of the Spurs' season.
Dingle Barry
06-24-2009, 12:31 AM
I know a lot of you think he was overrated on this board by many but I really wish we had PMB still.
johnnyblues
06-24-2009, 12:42 AM
Let's just get the hell over with this and bring in Rasho.:downspin:
rayray2k8
06-24-2009, 01:30 AM
Let's just get the hell over with this and bring in Rasho.:downspin:
Heeeeeell no.....
Then again, I rather have him on the floor than Bonner..
Oh my god, what were the spurs thinking?? :depressed
EricB
06-24-2009, 01:34 AM
Wasn't a fan of his signing, and I wouldn't be for bringing him back either.
NewcastleKEG
06-24-2009, 01:35 AM
Bringing Gooden back is a no brainer. Unless the Spurs are planning on starting a bunch of wing players
Mark in Austin
06-24-2009, 02:14 AM
only if he gets a year's worth of Ritalin with the deal....
sabar
06-24-2009, 03:32 AM
You don't want 5 scorers on the floor at once. It doesn't work in the all-star game, doesn't work in the olympics, doesn't even work in video games.
angelbelow
06-24-2009, 03:54 AM
i am definitely open to bring him back. his defense is below average and his iq is questionable but hes still more talented than most big men out there. and ofcousre i would like a defensive minded big man that grabs boards, scores, high iq, athletic, etc but theres only one david robinson and hes gone.
spurspokesman
06-24-2009, 06:24 AM
I just thought Gooden's shot selection hurt the flow of our offense. Yes he is talented offensively, but so was Ron Mercer.
I rather use or MLE or LLE on defensive players now that we are getting Richard Jefferson and Manu for next years squad.
Our offense never had a flow. He at least made it interesting.but I agree we need toughness up front
afireinside20
06-24-2009, 06:29 AM
This is probably one of the more important moves for this summer, is keeping Gooden. The man can play, we just didn't get to see him much last year cuz of him recuperating for his injury. The best is yet to come from Drew.
timvp
06-24-2009, 06:35 AM
Pass. Need a defensive presence.
HarlemHeat37
06-24-2009, 11:17 AM
I'm also against this, unless it's the absolute last option..
the Jefferson trade gives us 4 solid scorers on the floor at the same time..the next starter needs to be a role player, not another guy that is looking to score..as everybody saw last year, Gooden ALWAYS looks to score..
hater
06-24-2009, 11:24 AM
Keep Gooden, get a Rasho at the minimum. Rasho type player would start, Gooden from the bench with Hill + Mason. :tu
Sissiborgo
06-24-2009, 11:25 AM
Yes keep him and sign rasheed than we can keep rasheed ore duncan in the game when he will come of the bench!.....
velik_m
06-24-2009, 11:26 AM
The spurs are better of throwing that money at Rasho than at Gooden.
manufan10
06-24-2009, 11:27 AM
Pass too. He was a black hole on offense. Once the ball touched his hands down low, he NEVER gave it back or to anyone else. I'd rather get a defensive guy to help shore up the defensive side of the ball. It would help Duncan significantly if the Spurs got someone with defensive skills. It would help his knees a whole lot too if Duncan didn't have to be the last line of defense all the time.
Spurs16212
06-24-2009, 11:51 AM
I would like to see the Spurs go after Samuel Dalembert via trade then sign Gooden with the MLE and have a big rotation with
PF: Duncan / Gooden
C: Dalembert / Mahimni
Yuixafun
06-24-2009, 11:56 AM
You don't want 5 scorers on the floor at once. It doesn't work in the all-star game, doesn't work in the olympics, doesn't even work in video games.
Bring Gooden in with Manu in the 2nd unit.
Even in their limited time together I saw some chemistry emerging.
TD + low power game big (Gooden) + Defender rebounder (?) + floor spacing big (Bonner)
HarlemHeat37
06-24-2009, 12:04 PM
I would like to see the Spurs go after Samuel Dalembert via trade then sign Gooden with the MLE and have a big rotation with
PF: Duncan / Gooden
C: Dalembert / Mahimni
Dalmbert and Gooden on the same team would be trouble for us..both guys have egos, and Dalembert has a horrible attitude..
sam1617
06-24-2009, 12:18 PM
No way do I want Gooden on the Spurs. The guy is an idiot. There is a reason why he has been pawned from team to team... He never figured out Mike Browns defense, so why do people think he can figure out the Spurs? And yeah, he has some decent low post moves, but the ball never flows out of his hands. He's like a poor mans Zach Randolph...
Death In June
06-24-2009, 12:53 PM
I'd like him to back up Tim.
rasho8
06-24-2009, 01:14 PM
I think he should stay
And bring Bowen back dammit.
AND!!!
BRING RASHO BACK!!!!
Obstructed_View
06-24-2009, 01:19 PM
The guy can rebound, he can score, he gives energy, he was able to get some time on the floor with NO preparation and no camp, something very few Spurs bigs have been able to do in recent years. I'm all for exploring to see what else is out there, but it's not like the Spurs have a lot of frontline depth, and it's not likely they can fill out a roster with bigs that are better than Gooden is. If they spend their money somewhere else and decide he's not worth the luxury tax to keep, I'm okay with that. At least that reason makes sense.
Id rather have him than get a benchwarmer big on the draft. At least Gooden is a great scoring option for the second team.
bigdog
06-24-2009, 10:47 PM
Exactly. Bring Gooden back. He isn't as bad as people think. He gives Tim some rest at PF, while not giving up any scoring.
bigdog
06-24-2009, 10:54 PM
If they cant get Wallace or Gortat he the next best thing out there. He just doesnt give us the D we need, but he gives us a post scorer on the second unit and could allow TD to take some games off this year without us taking a lose.
If we could grab another Defensive post player and keep Gooden we would be set next year.
I agree, except the Wallace part. I don't know if Wallace should be at the top of the list anymore, because he is mostly limited to 3-point shooting these days.
there are more defensive-minded, hustle-type bigs(Gortat,Pachulia,McDyess,Nesterovic), and even post scorers (Gooden) than the type of player that Rasheed is.
I think the Spurs would look for those types of players before they go after a Rasheed Wallace.
itzsoweezee
06-25-2009, 12:45 AM
i wasn't very impressed with gooden. i can understand why no team seems to want him for very long.
SenorSpur
06-25-2009, 05:12 AM
The guy can rebound, he can score, he gives energy, he was able to get some time on the floor with NO preparation and no camp, something very few Spurs bigs have been able to do in recent years. I'm all for exploring to see what else is out there, but it's not like the Spurs have a lot of frontline depth, and it's not likely they can fill out a roster with bigs that are better than Gooden is. If they spend their money somewhere else and decide he's not worth the luxury tax to keep, I'm okay with that. At least that reason makes sense.
+1.
This guy was clearly the 2nd most talented frontline player on the roster. A guy that possesses something the Spurs have not had during the Duncan era - a solid low-post scoring and rebounding option. Does he have some flaws? Sure. He doesn't spread the floor like Bonner nor does he have the BBIQ of Fab. However, given good health and a full training camp with the team and there's no doubt that he'd be a valuable contributor and another threat on the court.
Unless the Spurs can get an upgrade over him via FA, I think the Spurs would be foolish to simply let him walk. And if the didn't pan out by midseason, he'd probably be a good trade chip. He certainly has more natural talent, ability and FA value than either Fab or Bonner.
Sdayi135
06-25-2009, 05:48 AM
id rather have him than get a benchwarmer big on the draft. At least gooden is a great scoring option for the second team.
+1
mountainballer
06-25-2009, 06:06 AM
Gooden should be something like plan E or so. I'm ok with it if the alternative was only typical 35+ veteran signings. but I do think there are a few better options out there.
I would even ask if Wilcox (for the same money) isn't a better idea. (and I'm not a big fan of the Wilcox idea either)
VivaPopovich
06-25-2009, 06:20 AM
sure, as long as he doesnt demand too much money.
FuzzyLumpkins
06-25-2009, 06:28 AM
Without Duncan ont he floor the Spurs have no one that can man the post on offense. Gooden provides that and he is good on the boards which the SPurs desperately need. With Manu out, the Spurs second unit stank last season. Have a second unit with Manu and Gooden and then you have the exact opposite. If he can learn the system and be an adequate man defender then he would be a huge asset to the team.
Hill
Manu
Udoka
Gooden
Mahinmi
That is one heck of a second unit. The issue here is that he would probably want to start. OTOH, Duncan is going to have his minutes rationed during the regular season especially and Gooden could very easily see 30 mins a night.
bigfan
06-25-2009, 07:43 AM
Rather have McDyess.
After tonight... Ciao, Gooden!!
SouthTexasRancher
06-26-2009, 12:11 AM
I liked Gooden's play but, I don't think Pop was all that happy with him. I don't see him coming back unless he drops his salary wishes down really low. Camby is apparently the only one of the Clipper's bigs that other teams have shown interest in so he will cost too much for the Spurs now that we got Jefferson. But, if Sheed wants another ring he may sign for the MLE.
Spursmania
06-28-2009, 10:10 AM
I haven't heard any reports about Gooden, what his intentions are, or whether he wants to re-sign or not. I'm sure this last week had him reassessing his situation. And, we all now he has a very aggressive agent in Feagan. Has anyone heard anything about his desires to stay or go?
ploto
06-28-2009, 10:25 AM
I think the concern with Gooden is that his best role is off the bench but the Spurs seem to have big men to come off the bench already. They need someone to play alongside Tim- unless they are planning to start Ian.
ElNono
06-28-2009, 10:50 AM
We need somebody to help Tim defend the paint. Gooden doesn't fill those shoes. Pass.
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