Danny Ainge's reaction to Spurs trade

[lurker23]

In an interview with the Dennis & Callahan Show, Celtics G.M. Danny Ainge gave his thoughts on the Spurs-Bucks trade:

"Did you guys see that Richard Jefferson trade yesterday? Holy cow. San Antonio, they send all the bad contracts away and they get an All-Star caliber player. The Lakers are sweating. That's a great acquisition for San Antonio."

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[BlackSwordsMan]

if he really wants to make lakers sweat send KG over here for bonner

[whottt]

DA is a LakerHater, both personally and it's also demanded of him by his job and probably isn't the most subjective opinion all things considered.

That said...I hope he's right.

[Brazil]

if he really wants to make lakers sweat send KG over here for bonner

:lol

[Spursmania]

if he really wants to make lakers sweat send kg over here for bonner

+2

[anjlbitz]

KG would be asking too much.. Perkins for Bonner maybe?

[baseline bum]

KG would be asking too much.. Perkins for Bonner maybe?

Man, Perkins would be a perfect starting 5 for this team.

[bigdog]

Perkins would be absolutely perfect, but there's no chance in Hell.

[ambchang]

How were those bad contracts? I thought those were all expiring. The RJ contract was THE bad contract.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

He can send us Perkins for Bonner, if he really hates LA.

[ShoogarBear]

Ainge is astonished that trades like that can be made without a previous member of your organization on the other end.

[BillMc]

if he really wants to make lakers sweat send KG over here for bonner

Hilarious!:lol

[Mel_13]

Ainge is astonished that trades like that can be made without a previous member of your organization on the other end.

:lol

[Supergirl]

Y'all are overrating Perkins. He looks a lot better playing next to KG, but he's not really that good. He's gotten better defensively, but he makes a lot of stupid mistakes, and his offense is pretty inconsistent, and he's a mediocre rebounder. Bonner is much better offensively, so Perkins is at most a lateral trade. If we're gonna give up Bonner it needs to be for a defensively solid, excellent rebounding big man. But those are pretty hard to come by.

[HarlemHeat37]

Y'all are overrating Perkins. He looks a lot better playing next to KG, but he's not really that good. He's gotten better defensively, but he makes a lot of stupid mistakes, and his offense is pretty inconsistent, and he's a mediocre rebounder. Bonner is much better offensively, so Perkins is at most a lateral trade. If we're gonna give up Bonner it needs to be for a defensively solid, excellent rebounding big man. But those are pretty hard to come by.

I hope this is sarcasm..

Perkins is easily one of the best 1 on 1 post defenders in the NBA, and he's arguably the best defensive ROLE PLAYER in the entire league..he's tough, strong, and never backs down..

[nkdlunch]

Y'all are overrating Perkins. He looks a lot better playing next to KG, but he's not really that good. He's gotten better defensively, but he makes a lot of stupid mistakes, and his offense is pretty inconsistent, and he's a mediocre rebounder. Bonner is much better offensively, so Perkins is at most a lateral trade. If we're gonna give up Bonner it needs to be for a defensively solid, excellent rebounding big man. But those are pretty hard to come by.

:bang

is that why Perkins looked so good in the playoffs with Garnett sidelined??

[baseline bum]

Y'all are overrating Perkins. He looks a lot better playing next to KG, but he's not really that good. He's gotten better defensively, but he makes a lot of stupid mistakes, and his offense is pretty inconsistent, and he's a mediocre rebounder. Bonner is much better offensively, so Perkins is at most a lateral trade. If we're gonna give up Bonner it needs to be for a defensively solid, excellent rebounding big man. But those are pretty hard to come by.

Bonner for Perkins a lateral move? Are you drunk right now? Perkins sets great screens, gives hard fouls, can rebound, and is big enough to bull his way to a couple of baskets on the block. Perkins also seems to relish being the bad guy. Perkins reminds me a lot of Rick Fox and Bruce Bowen; players everyone hates but his own teammates love because he's just dirty enough to keep the other team intimidated without going full-out and getting suspended for it. As for the rebounding garbage you brought, he averaged 11 and a half boards against Dwight Howard in the playoffs and for the regular season had 8 boards a night in just under 30 minutes. Perkins looked pretty effective without KG this entire playoffs.

Perkins 11.6 boards vs Dwight Howard
- or -
Bonner 3.2 boards vs Dirk Nowitzki

???

Perkins over Bonner is almost as huge of an upgrade as Jefferson over Finley.

[bigfan]

if he really wants to make lakers sweat send KG over here for bonner


:lol

[SouthTexasRancher]

if he really wants to make lakers sweat send KG over here for bonner


Damn, I like your way of thinking!

BlackSwordsMan For President...!

[SouthTexasRancher]

KG would be asking too much.. Perkins for Bonner maybe?


We'll throw in Vaughn & Udoka to make sure we get KG.

[iilluzioN]

DAYUM! KG with us?

[WildcardManu]

Perkins did pretty well in the playoffs w/o KG.

[lefty]

da is a lakerhater, both personally and it's also demanded of him by his job and probably isn't the most subjective opinion all things considered.

That said...i hope he's right.
+1

[Agloco]

if he really wants to make lakers sweat send KG over here for bonner

+1

While he's at it ,might as well throw in Pierce for Mason.

[Agloco]

Y'all are overrating Perkins. He looks a lot better playing next to KG, but he's not really that good. He's gotten better defensively, but he makes a lot of stupid mistakes, and his offense is pretty inconsistent, and he's a mediocre rebounder. Bonner is much better offensively, so Perkins is at most a lateral trade. If we're gonna give up Bonner it needs to be for a defensively solid, excellent rebounding big man. But those are pretty hard to come by.

Fail.

[Trainwreck2100]

I doubt the lakers are sweating

[HarlemHeat37]

Lakers still have to sign their own 2 guys..they're going to be paying extreme luxury tax..

[InRareForm]

Lakers still have to sign their own 2 guys..they're going to be paying extreme luxury tax..

even tho they were going to anyway, i feel like this cements them (buss) from absolutely doing it.

[temujin]

The Kobe-Lakers had their share this year.
Stern has other hungry hearts to feed.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Y'all are overrating Perkins. He looks a lot better playing next to KG, but he's not really that good. He's gotten better defensively, but he makes a lot of stupid mistakes, and his offense is pretty inconsistent, and he's a mediocre rebounder. Bonner is much better offensively, so Perkins is at most a lateral trade. If we're gonna give up Bonner it needs to be for a defensively solid, excellent rebounding big man. But those are pretty hard to come by.

Yes, a team with Manu, Parker, Jefferson, and Duncan needs scoring from the five, what were we all thinking?

[Mavs<Spurs]

SuperGirl drunk, giving up an Epic Fail

Bonner as good as Perkins, lol !:rollin



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[Knoxxx]

Perkins was an all-out dirty rotten thug in the playoffs. No thanks.

[HarlemHeat37]

When somebody thinks you're a "dirty rotten thug" on the court, that means you're doing your job correctly..see: Bruce Bowen, Robert Horry..

[manufan10]

Y'all are overrating Perkins. He looks a lot better playing next to KG, but he's not really that good. He's gotten better defensively, but he makes a lot of stupid mistakes, and his offense is pretty inconsistent, and he's a mediocre rebounder. Bonner is much better offensively, so Perkins is at most a lateral trade. If we're gonna give up Bonner it needs to be for a defensively solid, excellent rebounding big man. But those are pretty hard to come by.

Duncan>>>>>>>>>>>>KG

Therefore, Perkins would be an NBA All-Star or on the All-NBA team playing alongside Duncan. All this by using your analogy.

[Da Spurs]

Can somebody answer a question for me? I always thought total contract dollars had to equal each other on both sides of a trade. How was this trade done then? Doesn't Jefferson make like $14 mil?

[lurker23]

Can somebody answer a question for me? I always thought total contract dollars had to equal each other on both sides of a trade. How was this trade done then? Doesn't Jefferson make like $14 mil?

Since this trade was done before July 1st, the 2008-2009 salary figures are used when calculating whether a trade can be done under the collective bargaining agreement.

Oberto- $3,600,000
Thomas- $4,000,000
Bowen- $4,000,000

Total: $11.6 million

Jefferson: $13.2 million


http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q68

"Teams can acquire up to 125% plus $100,000 of the salaries they are trading in a simultaneous trade. For example, a team trading a $5 million player in a simultaneous trade can receive one or more players whose salary is no more than 125% of $5 million, plus $100,000, or $6.35 million in return."


So, the max salary that the Spurs could obtain with those three contracts was:

$11.6 million x 1.25 + $100,000 = $14.6 million.

Since Jefferson's salary was less than this amount, the trade was successful.

(Note: Some of the salaries quoted above are off by somewhere around $200,000, since there were trade kickers and such involved.)

[duncan228]

Thanks for the breakdown lurker23. Trade details can get confusing, it's helpful to see it spelled out clearly. :tu

[lurker23]

Thanks for the breakdown lurker23. Trade details can get confusing, it's helpful to see it spelled out clearly. :tu

Sure, always happy to help. :)

[ambchang]

Bowen: 4 million
Oberto: 3.5
Thomas: 4.3

I believe those numbers are close. Either way Bruce hardly played last season and didn't earn that money, Fab has had heart issues and probably would not have played too much and Thomas was just getting old.

You realize that we did trade three old way past their prime players in exchange for an all star basically right?

And you do know that these contracts expire summer of 10, right? The Bucks saved something like $20M through this trade.

The only reason RJ was had for this cheap was because of his absolutely horrible contract. But hey, I love the trade!

[TJastal]

And you do know that these contracts expire summer of 10, right? The Bucks saved something like $20M through this trade.

The only reason RJ was had for this cheap was because of his absolutely horrible contract. But hey, I love the trade!

Horrible contract? RJ maybe a mil or 2 overpaid and but he's defenitely worth 10m a year at minimum.

Look at Rashard Lewis's 22 million or so contract, now that is a "horrible" contract.

Jefferson is a guy that can give you 20 a game in a variety of ways, can play some defense against the game's best wings, and has been rock solid in attendance the past couple years and you have a player that is exactly... and I mean EXACTLY what the spurs have needed.

Now they just need to convince McDyess to forget Detroit and come sign a contract and the rest of the league will be paralyzed in fear of the spurs. :hat

[elbamba]

Perkins would look pretty damn good playing next to Tim Duncan

[ambchang]

Horrible contract? RJ maybe a mil or 2 overpaid and but he's defenitely worth 10m a year at minimum.

Look at Rashard Lewis's 22 million or so contract, now that is a "horrible" contract.

Jefferson is a guy that can give you 20 a game in a variety of ways, can play some defense against the game's best wings, and has been rock solid in attendance the past couple years and you have a player that is exactly... and I mean EXACTLY what the spurs have needed.

Now they just need to convince McDyess to forget Detroit and come sign a contract and the rest of the league will be paralyzed in fear of the spurs. :hat

Jefferson is owed $14.2 M this year, and has a player option for $15M next year. He would be crazy (or monstrously willing to win) to not get the $15M. Compared that to Bowen, Oberto and Thomas's contract for a combined $9M or so, I just can't see how the Spurs got the better contract, especially when Jefferson is the clear 4th option.

Of course there are worse salaries in the league, and I am not saying that Jefferson's is the worst, just that it is still horrible.

[ShoogarBear]

Rashard Lewis is not making $22 million a year, if that's what you were trying to say.