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ducks
06-24-2009, 11:13 PM
Pistons trade Johnson for Bucks’ Oberto
In an effort to clear more salary cap space, the Detroit Pistons have sent forward Amir Johnson(notes) to the Milwaukee Bucks for newly acquired Fabricio Oberto(notes), a league executive told Yahoo! Sports.
The Pistons plan to buy out Oberto’s deal and make him a free agent. The San Antonio Spurs sent Oberto to the Bucks as part of a four-player trade for Richard Jefferson(notes) earlier on Tuesday.
Oberto is expected to re-sign with the Spurs.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AuAkQjx6.qs2sBYed84p.zjTjdIF?slug=aw-pistonsbucks062309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns&print=1
bigdog
06-24-2009, 11:14 PM
Wouldn't mind him as a 12th man, but we really don't need him...unless, of course, we can't get anyone else.
Marcus Bryant
06-24-2009, 11:14 PM
In that case, either Mahinmi is expected to contribute next season or Bonner (+ others) will be moved.
manufan10
06-24-2009, 11:15 PM
I wouldn't mind him coming off the bench to be productive. Manu and Fab have some great chemistry on the court together.
RuffnReadyOzStyle
06-24-2009, 11:18 PM
I don't like that at all. Time for the team to move on and go with younger, more athletic bigs. In the new NBA, where athletes reign, Tim needs to be surrounded by athletic bigs - Ian is one, and I hope he is all I think he can be, but I don't see fab fitting a team need. We need an athlete who can grab boards and block the odd shot, and Fab doesn't do much of either.
Steve-O-Matic
06-24-2009, 11:18 PM
Nothing personal, but I don't want Fab back. That guy is the biggest hunk of nothin' this side of Carson Daly.
milkyway21
06-24-2009, 11:19 PM
Oberto is expected to re-sign with the Spurs.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AuAkQjx6.qs2sBYed84p.zjTjdIF?slug=aw-pistonsbucks062309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns&print=1
no kidding ducks .....
DPG21920
06-24-2009, 11:22 PM
Very strange considering RC's comments about Bruce. Oberto was in the same situation as Bruce, but Bruce actually played well when given time and had no health issues.
TDMVPDPOY
06-24-2009, 11:24 PM
wow coming b ack to the spurs, watta waste of a roster spot.....
dude wasnt even relevant last season
Big men and heart problems are usually not a good combination. He couldn't be counted on to fill in any extended minutes, if someone got injured.
He's got a lot of local knowledge, and he works well enough in certain situations. I wouldn't mind seeing him play an enforcer role at times, either. But can you picture him getting playoff minutes at the end of next season? If not, the roster spot would probably be better spent on a younger player.
ducks
06-24-2009, 11:26 PM
no kidding ducks .....
shut up
TheProfessor
06-24-2009, 11:27 PM
Nothing personal, but I don't want Fab back. That guy is the biggest hunk of nothin' this side of Carson Daly.
Oberto was fantastic for us during the 2007 run. Unfortunately, I don't think his health problems will go away any time soon.
iilluzioN
06-24-2009, 11:28 PM
id rather have fab then any young talent, fab knows the system, and can be great for the bench, plus manu and him know each other well in the floor
In a heartbeat. This guy possess that key "corporate knowledge" Pop rants about, especially at the currently depleted C/PF position. Plus, Fab is not only smart but one of those players that gets under the skin of the opposition. You need at least one of those on your team.
Spursmania
06-24-2009, 11:29 PM
Very strange considering RC's comments about Bruce. Oberto was in the same situation as Bruce, but Bruce actually played well when given time and had no health issues.
Exactly, I find it hard to believe. If anything, I thought the Spurs would bring Bruce back.
DPG21920
06-24-2009, 11:29 PM
Fab should not be playing hardly at all. Only in blowouts and select situations. So not a big deal, but why "go a different direction" and then bring Oberto back.
kbrury
06-24-2009, 11:31 PM
In a heartbeat. This guy possess that key "corporate knowledge" Pop rants about, especially at the currently depleted C/PF position. Plus, Fab is not only smart but one of those players that gets under the skin of the opposition. You need at least one of those on your team.
:downspin: nice choice of words
I wouldn't mind him as our 5th big insurance policy.
Marcus Bryant
06-24-2009, 11:33 PM
Then that makes Mahinmi and Bonner the 3rd and 4th bigs, assuming the Spurs keep both.
DPG21920
06-24-2009, 11:34 PM
Yup. Does not really do anything to the rotation. Just a trusty vet/locker room guy to have around and practice with.
Steve-O-Matic
06-24-2009, 11:35 PM
We need some semblence of an impactful big, not another spare like Fab again. We do NOT improve by bringing back Fab. All he does is exist.
TheProfessor
06-24-2009, 11:37 PM
We need some semblence of an impactful big, not another spare like Fab again. We do NOT improve by bringing back Fab. All he does is exist.
Eh, I don't think bringing back Oberto precludes other big man pick-ups. Give it time.
timvp
06-24-2009, 11:38 PM
As a 12th man, I'd like it. But the Spurs need to sign two more bigs that are better than him.
timtonymanu
06-24-2009, 11:38 PM
I would rather take Kurt even though he's not getting waived.
Da Spurs
06-24-2009, 11:43 PM
Oberto is a quality bench player. Who knows how much the heart condition limited him last year. After surgery, he might be more active next year. I think it would be a great pickup and he'll probably come pretty cheap.
Steve-O-Matic
06-24-2009, 11:43 PM
I wouldn't even want him as a 15th man. He's not worth the roster spot he'd occupy at the expense of just about anyone else. Totally useless.
Marcus Bryant
06-24-2009, 11:44 PM
It makes more sense that the Spurs use their MLE or a trade to land a starting quality big and then find a decent 3rd big, unless they feel comfortable going with Bonner or Mahinmi as that. I think you want Mahinmi to begin next season as the 4th big. That would give him an opportunity during the regular season to get meaningful minutes, yet you don't risk throwing him into the fire too soon and destroying his confidence.
I don't mind Bonner. His skillset is useful. But he shouldn't be anything more than the 4th big (and better, the 5th). You want him for certain situations. He did step up in the last regular season, but the poor team defense ultimately reflected his shortcomings.
If the Spurs are going for broke, as it were, this offseason, then using the MLE on a McDyess, Pachulia, or Wallace to be the starting big makes a lot of sense. The only way Oberto makes any kind of sense is if the Spurs intend to deal Bonner in a draft day deal which returns them a decent first off the bench kind of bigman (ie Foster).
Starters
4 Duncan
5 McDyess, Pachulia, or Wallace
Bench
4 Mahinmi
4/5 Foster
5 Oberto
Who knows, maybe Christmas will come on June 25th and the Spurs will announce they are signing Splitter tomorrow?
Aggie Hoopsfan
06-24-2009, 11:44 PM
As a 12th man, I'd like it. But the Spurs need to sign two more bigs that are better than him.
This.
bigdog
06-24-2009, 11:45 PM
The Spurs are fully capable of getting a couple of bigs that are better than Oberto.
Like I said, the only reason I'd get Oberto is if we couldn't get those other bigs.
angelbelow
06-25-2009, 12:17 AM
hmm i would welcome oberto back, but not until we take a look at our other options..
montgod
06-25-2009, 12:22 AM
hmm i would welcome oberto back, but not until we take a look at our other options..
...Many, many, many other options.
Obstructed_View
06-25-2009, 12:42 AM
A guy that can be had for the minimum, knows the offense and the defense, is probably feeling much better since heart surgery and was the starter on a Spurs championship team? No thanks.
Ditty
06-25-2009, 01:01 AM
:nope:pctoss:bang we need to get fucking younger or at least still be able to play retire fab
duncan,gooden,wallace,mcdyess,mihinmi should be our front court damnit get rid of bonner and finley dont resign udoku,bruce or fab unless nothing goes as planned but i pretty sure everyone wants to beat the lakers and the spurs just need one big guy to beat them
EricB
06-25-2009, 01:05 AM
A guy that can be had for the minimum, knows the offense and the defense, is probably feeling much better since heart surgery and was the starter on a Spurs championship team? No thanks.
:lmao
EricB
06-25-2009, 01:06 AM
:nope:pctoss:bang we need to get fucking younger or at least still be able to play retire fab
duncan,gooden,wallace,mcdyess,mihinmi should be our front court damnit get rid of bonner and finley dont resign udoku,bruce or fab unless nothing goes as planned but i pretty sure everyone wants to beat the lakers and the spurs just need one big guy to beat them
How are you
forget it.
Damn Spursreport...
spursfan1000
06-25-2009, 02:10 AM
Please don't bring him back as our starting center or backup center. I wouldent mind having him as a 12th man. He isnt as good as he used to be and now he has heart problems, we could sign him as insurance, if out starting center or the backup center gets hurt we could use him.
Chomag
06-25-2009, 02:12 AM
No offense but I really do think Oberto should just call it a career and retire. It's just not worth it for him.
That heart thing is no laughing matter. Even if after his correction at his age he is at risk every-time he exerts himself out on the court. I must say he had a pretty damn good career.
raspsa
06-25-2009, 02:34 AM
I don't know if Oberto is reliable. His heart condition could act up without warning and based on previous incidednts, he will not be available to play for extended periods. On top of that, his health and family should be his priority.
crc21209
06-25-2009, 04:35 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again....Oberto > Bonner. Sure Bonner had his flashes of brilliance last year in the beginning of the season (Boston game) but when it came down to it he fucking choked when it mattered. Oberto plays better D than him, knows the system better than him, can run the high/low with TD better than him for damn sure, and can rebound better than him. Fab is just one of those players who has "it". A great knowledge for the game and he is very underrated. I would love to have Fab back if it is as the 4th or 5th big on the team. Because if Bonner is going to get major minutes next year, we may be in trouble.
Mugen
06-25-2009, 04:39 AM
you all are crazy for not wanting fab back as our 5th big. great passing big man who knows the system very well.
not like hes gonna be starting next to timmy, the MLE is going towards a better big.
having fab around to mentor ian and as an insurance policy is pretty much a no brainer.
SenorSpur
06-25-2009, 04:49 AM
While Fab is a serviceable big and a great team guy, he doesn't rebound, score, defend or block shots at a level that warrants him being a rotation player. At this point, he's nothing more than an end-of-bench, situational-type player.
If the goal of this offseason is to retool the roster by upgrading the talent level, Fab doesn't do that. Therefore, I'd rather see the Spurs go in a different direction.
Texas_Ranger
06-25-2009, 04:57 AM
If we can't get 2 or 3 better Centers then OK, but if we get some good bigs, then he should just go to Europe.
rascal
06-25-2009, 06:05 AM
It' s a wasted roster spot if he comes back. They need guys who can jump.
Bukefal
06-25-2009, 06:22 AM
We dont need the guy, its time for us to go new, and release some players instead of circling with the same players over and over again. Goodbye Oberto!!! As for Bowen, I think the same, but im more feeling sorry for him being gone, than oberto. Its time for us to say goodbye to both of them, and get some better younger players!!!
ploto
06-25-2009, 07:05 AM
Where's the CIA on Oberto?? :lol
Stump
06-25-2009, 07:19 AM
If we're trying to grab an old ex-spur to function as insurance incase injuries happen, I'd rather seek out Thomas and Rasho first. However, Oberto would probably be considerably cheaper, as I bet he can be had the minimum (800K) whereas those other two would at best agree to the LLE (1.7 mil)
jackseven
06-25-2009, 07:36 AM
Big men and heart problems are usually not a good combination. He couldn't be counted on to fill in any extended minutes, if someone got injured.
He's got a lot of local knowledge, and he works well enough in certain situations. I wouldn't mind seeing him play an enforcer role at times, either. But can you picture him getting playoff minutes at the end of next season? If not, the roster spot would probably be better spent on a younger player.
Fat is probably the most non-enforcer type of person in the NBA. Sean Elliott even seriously referred to him as a "sweet heart". You must have him mistaken for someone else.
... The Spurs just unloaded a ton of baggage and went 20 steps in the right direction. I hope they don't take it back and pick up Fat to be a Jaque Vaughn without the hustle and work ethic at the end of the bench. Use that roster spot to bring in someone that could actually do something.
Oberto back is more essencial at this moment then getting Bruce back. At the same price though. We don't have the cash to throw at anyone except a quality big, and if Fab wants to sign for 1m or less, then we take him.
This is a piece of the puzzle move plus we don't want to have a rooster full of guys who are clueless about the system. I support if it happens.
... The Spurs just unloaded a ton of baggage and went 20 steps in the right direction. I hope they don't take it back and pick up Fat to be a Jaque Vaughn without the hustle and work ethic at the end of the bench. Use that roster spot to bring in someone that could actually do something.
There is gonna be plenty of time for your rebuilding fantasy, but that time sure is hell aint now.
urunobili
06-25-2009, 08:16 AM
We dont need the guy, its time for us to go new, and release some players instead of circling with the same players over and over again. Goodbye Oberto!!! As for Bowen, I think the same, but im more feeling sorry for him being gone, than oberto. Its time for us to say goodbye to both of them, and get some better younger players!!!
same here
Brazil
06-25-2009, 11:25 AM
you all are crazy for not wanting fab back as our 5th big. great passing big man who knows the system very well.
not like hes gonna be starting next to timmy, the MLE is going towards a better big.
having fab around to mentor ian and as an insurance policy is pretty much a no brainer.
^this
rascal
06-25-2009, 11:40 AM
The spurs don't need mentors. They need a deep bench with productive players if they want to unseat the Lakers.
buttsR4rebounding
06-25-2009, 11:48 AM
We could use Fab back a lot more than Bowen at this point. Of course, I would rather have Thomas back all things being equal (i.e. Salary). If the Spurs can sign Rasheed, say, and a back up like Fab (or Rasho) I think our big situation is in very good shape. I would actually rather Rasho than Fab just to match up from a size perspective against Yao or the Laker's bigs.
vander
06-25-2009, 11:59 AM
PLEASE NO!
:pctoss:shootme:smchode::cry:hang:vomit::depressed
SpursWench21
06-25-2009, 12:03 PM
PLEASE NO!
:pctoss:shootme:smchode::cry:hang:vomit::depressed
^LoL...all those look like they would character in a graphic comedy cartoon (like ren & stimpy) on cartoon network or something... i dont know why but it keeps cracking me up:lol
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