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DeadlyDynasty
06-25-2009, 09:52 PM
He's a f'n beast, and he's exactly what SA needs to fill the void in their frontcourt. SA is a legit contender once again:toast

BlackSwordsMan
06-25-2009, 09:52 PM
currently in trade to raptors for a lotto ticket

ffadicted
06-25-2009, 09:58 PM
Spurs get Blair with 37, mavs get whatever they got with (initially) the 22nd pick.

Here here mavs fans :( it's ok :(

dirk4mvp
06-25-2009, 10:00 PM
Spurs get Blair with 37, mavs get whatever they got with (initially) the 22nd pick.

Here here mavs fans :( it's ok :(

Maybe Duncan and Blair can give each other homemade knee remedies.

BlackSwordsMan
06-25-2009, 10:04 PM
one can only hope

z0sa
06-25-2009, 10:11 PM
I don't expect Pop to trust him whatsoever, but definitely a solid pick for #37. He's actually a guy who can come in and contribute straight away immediately in spot minutes.

SouthTexasRancher
06-25-2009, 10:31 PM
Maybe Duncan and Blair can give each other homemade knee remedies.


ROTFFLMFAO...the Mavettes gonna spend yet another season crying their eyes out. Not to worry, we'll let you take a photo with all 5 trophies next June. Maybe even get Duncan & Blair to autograph the back for you. :lol

Spursfan092120
06-25-2009, 10:43 PM
Spurs get Blair, McClinton and De Colo...Damn good draft..

phyzik
06-25-2009, 10:59 PM
Maybe Duncan and Blair can give each other homemade knee remedies.

http://img.timeinc.net/time/photoessays/passoverpalm/bitter.jpg

Bitter much?

Ditty
06-25-2009, 11:13 PM
spurs get 2 projected first rounders freat draft

scottspurs
06-25-2009, 11:56 PM
Blair is a beast he doesn't take any crap from anybody he could be one of the best rebounders in the draft and he slipped to 37...wow

Spurs_9_20_21
06-26-2009, 12:07 AM
Spurs get Blair, McClinton and De Colo...Damn good draft..
I agree, I hope McClinton can be our backup Point instead of Hill. I mean Hill was a good player in all, but I just don't see him transferring into a Point Guard, he played a two and I think he should stay a two.

Chieflion
06-26-2009, 12:12 AM
I agree, I hope McClinton can be our backup Point instead of Hill. I mean Hill was a good player in all, but I just don't see him transferring into a Point Guard, he played a two and I think he should stay a two.
Does this mean bye bye Mason?

z0sa
06-26-2009, 12:42 AM
9WASWhKKQfY

posted again for good measure. Thabeet who?

dirk4mvp
06-26-2009, 12:43 AM
http://img.timeinc.net/time/photoessays/passoverpalm/bitter.jpg

Bitter much?

Have fun watching Blair fade into obscurity over the next few years . . .


lmao spurs fans clinging onto a youtube clip thinking that's how it's gonna be 5 years from now.

Holmes_Fans
06-26-2009, 12:45 AM
Brandon Bass > this guy

Ditty
06-26-2009, 12:46 AM
Have fun watching Blair fade into obscurity over the next few years . . .


lmao spurs fans clinging onto a youtube clip thinking that's how it's gonna be 5 years from now.

lol mark cuban thinking of BJ's :lol

z0sa
06-26-2009, 12:46 AM
Brandon Bass > this guy

i'd take 75% of brandon bass for a #37 pick.

Spursfan092120
06-26-2009, 12:47 AM
Have fun watching Blair fade into obscurity over the next few years . . .


lmao spurs fans clinging onto a youtube clip thinking that's how it's gonna be 5 years from now.
lol Mavs fan

lol Rodrique Beaubois

Spursfan092120
06-26-2009, 12:48 AM
McClinton will not be a PG.

dirk4mvp
06-26-2009, 12:49 AM
. . .


Hey at least you have that youtube video of Blair actually doing something good since he won't be in the nba.

dirk4mvp
06-26-2009, 12:50 AM
Just think, Duncan doesn't really ever guard the opposing team's best big man. This poor fuckstick is stuck holding the Dirk's, KG's, Bosh's, and Amare's of the league.

Cry Havoc
06-26-2009, 12:59 AM
Hey at least you have that youtube video of Blair actually doing something good since he won't be in the nba.

So, are you guys ever actually going to develop a SINGLE decent post player? Just curious.

dirk4mvp
06-26-2009, 12:59 AM
The Basshole is about 5 times better than Blair.

Ditty
06-26-2009, 01:02 AM
lol getting a quick b.j for 5 minutes

peskypesky
06-26-2009, 01:05 AM
great pick by the Spurs. the steal of the draft? quite possibly.

z0sa
06-26-2009, 01:06 AM
Just think, Duncan doesn't really ever guard the opposing team's best big man. This poor fuckstick is stuck holding the Dirk's, KG's, Bosh's, and Amare's of the league.

Suuure he doesn't. Even though every coach does that for every offensive superstar, Tim hasn't had that luxury for two seasons now.

Chieflion
06-26-2009, 01:07 AM
great pick by the Spurs. the steal of the draft? quite possibly.
They have Patrick Mills as the steal of the draft at pick 55.

Chieflion
06-26-2009, 01:16 AM
Well the thing is that he is no normal 37th pick. This is a top player in the draft and a top rookie. Someone who works his ass off and brings toughness. Plus I think Pop has learned to trust rookies more after he didn't play Hill until it was too late.
Not only that, since he was projected to be picked at pick 15-20, he would come out with fire like Gilbert Arenas to prove the critics wrong.

21_Blessings
06-26-2009, 01:30 AM
Except he has no ACLs

Ditty
06-26-2009, 01:42 AM
Except he has no ACLs

and bynum dosent any either :lol

21_Blessings
06-26-2009, 01:43 AM
and bynum dosent any either :lol

Actually he does :lol

Ditty
06-26-2009, 01:50 AM
Actually he does :lol

well that surely proved thats not a good thing for him lol :lol

you mad? :lmao

21_Blessings
06-26-2009, 01:52 AM
well that surely proved thats not a good thing for him lol :lol

you mad? :lmao

mad about what? The Lakers big men have all their ACLs intact. The Spurs big men, not so much :lol

Ditty
06-26-2009, 02:02 AM
mad about what? The Lakers big men have all their ACLs intact. The Spurs big men, not so much :lol

that your lakers might see the spurs next year :lol

you look like your a little nervos fag boy or girl or whatever the fuck you are tranny i dunno posting in all these spurs threads recently

acl's lol? i think there a difference between a real man name dejaun blair who plays through them and a little overated bitch name bynum that dosent :rollin

Danny.Zhu
06-26-2009, 02:21 AM
i'd take 75% of brandon bass for a #37 pick.

mystargtr34
06-26-2009, 03:07 AM
So many awesome comebacks and insults in this thread.

Amazing.

scottspurs
06-26-2009, 03:12 AM
lmao spurs fans clinging onto a youtube clip thinking that's how it's gonna be 5 years from now.[/QUOTE]

more like mavs fans clinging on their 2 series wins against the spurs and 0 titles. just face it the spurs are back and better than ever.

scottspurs
06-26-2009, 03:18 AM
mad about what? The Lakers big men have all their ACLs intact. The Spurs big men, not so much :lol

John elway didn't have any ACLs. How did that turn out? Blair will completely destroy the soft laker not-so-big men. He will not back down against anyone a straight up BAD-ASS:ihit

21_Blessings
06-26-2009, 03:44 AM
you look like your a little nervos fag boy or girl or whatever the fuck you are tranny i dunno

You seem a bit confused. Maybe you should stop projecting your fantasies on this here basketball forum...


acl's lol? i think there a difference between a real man name dejaun blair who plays through them and a little overated bitch name bynum that dosent :rollin

That's NBA Champion Andrew Bynum. And at least he has two working ACLs.

crc21209
06-26-2009, 04:06 AM
You seem a bit confused. Maybe you should stop projecting your fantasies on this here basketball forum...



That's NBA Champion Andrew Bynum. And at least he has two working ACLs.

Calm down there. :lol. One-time NBA champion.

Kori Ellis
06-26-2009, 06:02 AM
I agree, I hope McClinton can be our backup Point instead of Hill. I mean Hill was a good player in all, but I just don't see him transferring into a Point Guard, he played a two and I think he should stay a two.

RC said they aren't even going to try to play McClinton at PG. He's just a SG.

TheManFromAcme
06-26-2009, 08:54 AM
that your lakers might see the spurs next year :lol

you look like your a little nervos fag boy or girl or whatever the fuck you are tranny i dunno posting in all these spurs threads recently

acl's lol? i think there a difference between a real man name dejaun blair who plays through them and a little overated bitch name bynum that dosent :rollin

Can you at least wait til the boy plays his first game as a Spur? I mean, really. You guys bash Laker fan for claiming Bynum "is the next big thing" yet you want to almost claim the same for this kid? Good pick. But don't count your chicks just yet.

z0sa
06-26-2009, 09:39 AM
Can you at least wait til the boy plays his first game as a Spur? I mean, really. You guys bash Laker fan for claiming Bynum "is the next big thing" yet you want to almost claim the same for this kid? Good pick. But don't count your chicks just yet.

He could be Dennis Rodman on the boards with Barkley's post game and Pop still won't play him 15mpg. Book it. Pop does not trust rookies, at all.

Shank
06-26-2009, 09:48 AM
lmao spurs fans clinging onto a youtube clip thinking that's how it's gonna be 5 years from now.

more like mavs fans clinging on their 2 series wins against the spurs and 0 titles. just face it the spurs are back and better than ever.[/QUOTE]

This has to be someone's troll, right?

Cry Havoc
06-26-2009, 10:57 AM
Can you at least wait til the boy plays his first game as a Spur? I mean, really. You guys bash Laker fan for claiming Bynum "is the next big thing" yet you want to almost claim the same for this kid? Good pick. But don't count your chicks just yet.

The difference is (I think), we aren't claiming Blair to be the next Duncan or Hakeem like Lakers fans were doing en masse with Bynum, and then shouting down anyone as an idiot who has never watched him play for disagreeing.

phyzik
06-26-2009, 11:41 AM
I expect him to be a decent upgrade over what we used to have in Malik Rose. Not nearly all-star potential but he will definately get the job done against other teams bigs.

BlackBellamy
06-26-2009, 12:04 PM
Except he has no ACLs

You don't have to jump when your wingspan's seven-two.

tlongII
06-26-2009, 12:34 PM
It was a terrific draft for the Spurs considering they didn't even have a 1st round pick. Blair might not work out, but what's the risk? Since he's a 2nd round pick there is no guaranteed contract and the Spurs can just evaluate him during training camp at no cost. Huge potential reward at little to no risk. I wish the Blazers would have taken him in the 2nd round. Big ups to the Spurs! :tu

Spursfan092120
06-26-2009, 01:01 PM
Hey at least you have that youtube video of Blair actually doing something good since he won't be in the nba.
?? you're an idiot. Won't be in the NBA...yeah...

Spursfan092120
06-26-2009, 01:02 PM
Just think, Duncan doesn't really ever guard the opposing team's best big man. This poor fuckstick is stuck holding the Dirk's, KG's, Bosh's, and Amare's of the league.
Duncan will guard whoever he has to, as will Blair, and if you think we're done signing big men, you're out of your mind...but you're out of your mind anyway, so it doesn't surprise me.

Spursfan092120
06-26-2009, 01:03 PM
Except he has no ACLs
yeah...he didn't have them all through College either...look how that turned out.

dirk4mvp
06-26-2009, 01:03 PM
?? you're an idiot. Won't be in the NBA...yeah...

It's about as smart as thinking Blair is the messiah of basketball because he flipped a 7'3" guy with no basketball coordination due to him only playing ball for a few years over his back.




yeah...he didn't have them all through College either...look how that turned out.

There's probably a small difference in playing 30 games a year and 82 plus the playoffs. And if you don't think so, you're out of your mind...but you're out of your mind anyway, so it doesn't surprise me.

dirk4mvp
06-26-2009, 01:07 PM
How many games have you seen Blair play in your life? I mean full games, not just clips?

Quite a few. National tv has a thing for the Big East.


There's a small difference between Arinze Onuaka and Dwight Howard.

Spursfan092120
06-26-2009, 01:08 PM
It's about as smart as thinking Blair is the messiah of basketball because he flipped a 7'3" guy with no basketball coordination due to him only playing ball for a few years over his back.




There's probably a small difference in playing 30 games a year and 82 plus the playoffs. And if you don't think so, you're out of your mind...but you're out of your mind anyway, so it doesn't surprise me.
First off, Dirk..no one's saying he's the messiah..when you have a lineup of Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Richard Jefferson, and Tim Duncan, you don't need a messiah...you need a guy who can get a few rebounds and score a few baskets. And as I said before...we're not done yet...we're not gonna choke in this offseason like Dallas is...lol Beaubois...lol trying to find another Tony Parker

Spursfan092120
06-26-2009, 01:09 PM
And your telling me you dont believe Blair will make the Spurs?
Dirk hasn't watched Blair, plus he's ignorant...either that or he's just trying to stir us up...either way...he's not worth our time. :toast

dirk4mvp
06-26-2009, 01:10 PM
And your telling me you dont believe Blair will make the Spurs?

Find out where I said that?

dirk4mvp
06-26-2009, 01:12 PM
"Hey at least you have that youtube video of Blair actually doing something good since he won't be in the nba. "


Unless the Spurs arent in the NBA?

In about 5 years from now, brah. Hang on to it. I know if you looked for that quote you also could've looked about 2 posts up.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3495951&postcount=15

Spursfan092120
06-26-2009, 01:13 PM
Hey at least you have that youtube video of Blair actually doing something good since he won't be in the nba.
:D 9WASWhKKQfY
In case you missed this. :) I guess Hasheem Thabeet isn't going to be in the NBA either.

hater
06-26-2009, 01:13 PM
LMAO at mavfans hatin

Shank
06-26-2009, 01:14 PM
"Hey at least you have that youtube video of Blair actually doing something good since he won't be in the nba. "


Unless the Spurs arent in the NBA?

I think he meant it as 'won't be doing anything good (sic)...in the NBA". As in, he did well in college, but may not for the Spurs.

Shank
06-26-2009, 01:16 PM
LMAO at mavfans hatin

Easy, now. 30+ other teams passed on the guy for a reason. It's not some conspiracy for everyone else to ignore Blair just so he can play in San Antonio. Don't you think he would have looked nice alongside Lebron and Shaq in Cleveland?

Spursmania
06-26-2009, 01:18 PM
In about 5 years from now, brah. Hang on to it.

You mad?? Get over it already. It was a great and unexpected pick up for the Spurs.

Most anybody who knows anything about basketball agrees it was a great steal for the Spurs. This thread was supposed to be a congratulatory thread. Not a whiny sour grapes thread.

:cry:cry:cry

Spursfan092120
06-26-2009, 01:18 PM
There's something that some of you don't seem to understand. The Spurs aren't expecting this guy to be the next David Robinson. We don't need that. With Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Richard Jefferson, and Tim Duncan, we don't need another All Star. All we need is another guy to rebound (he can), put up a few points (he can), and have some fire and be a sparkplug (he is). We got exactly what we wanted and more. And now, with the MLE or the LLE, or both, we'll get another big like McDyess or Rasheed, and be right back on top. :D

Cry Havoc
06-26-2009, 01:21 PM
:lmao @ mav fan.

They're actually getting close to Laker fan level of hate lately. Jealousy is running thick around here. :lol

Shank
06-26-2009, 01:25 PM
:lmao @ mav fan.

They're actually getting close to Laker fan level of hate lately. Jealousy is running thick around here. :lol

What?

dirk4mvp
06-26-2009, 01:28 PM
Other team's fans jealous because they aren't considering him as high as the 2nd best player in the draft? That's news.

Hooks
06-26-2009, 02:18 PM
He seems to be a bigger, tougher Chuck Hayes type player.

Spursfan092120
06-26-2009, 02:20 PM
He seems to be a bigger, tougher Chuck Hayes type player.
aka Glen Davis

Trainwreck2100
06-26-2009, 02:25 PM
aka Glen Davis


hopefully he's not as big a fag as davis

Spursfan092120
06-26-2009, 02:27 PM
hopefully he's not as big a fag as davis
lol...seems to be a lot tougher than Davis....

zzR60xPDLQs

urunobili
06-26-2009, 02:31 PM
He's a f'n beast, and he's exactly what SA needs to fill the void in their frontcourt. SA is a legit contender once again:toast


It was a terrific draft for the Spurs considering they didn't even have a 1st round pick. Blair might not work out, but what's the risk? Since he's a 2nd round pick there is no guaranteed contract and the Spurs can just evaluate him during training camp at no cost. Huge potential reward at little to no risk. I wish the Blazers would have taken him in the 2nd round. Big ups to the Spurs! :tu


Thanks for being such great ass kissers :tu

DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-26-2009, 02:32 PM
I still don't get why he was there. Also why does everyone say "he has no ACL's"?

Mugen
06-26-2009, 02:34 PM
I still don't get why he was there. Also why does everyone say "he has no ACL's"?

cuz he doesnt

hater
06-26-2009, 02:34 PM
He has no ACLs. dude is a freak of modern medicine.

I'm not sure what the risks are. but I guess, IF he was to injure his knees. That would be it for him. his career would be over. that would b the risk

Cry Havoc
06-26-2009, 02:38 PM
Other team's fans jealous because they aren't considering him as high as the 2nd best player in the draft? That's news.

What do you mean, 2nd best in the draft? Most reasonable NBA fans are actually wondering how they got a slight upgrade from Tim Duncan at the 37th pick.

At the least, he'll be a David Robinson type player with better leaping and more durability.

angelbelow
06-26-2009, 02:40 PM
good shit. i woke up excited.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
06-26-2009, 02:41 PM
Huh, I don't understand how he plays with no ACL's but it's worked for him up until this point.

Spursfan092120
06-26-2009, 02:45 PM
Huh, I don't understand how he plays with no ACL's but it's worked for him up until this point.
Yep...really weird...they checked him and no ACLs showed up on the X-ray...but he's been that way all through college and it hasn't stopped him yet. I guess if you don't have ACLs, you can't tear them. :D

Cry Havoc
06-26-2009, 02:53 PM
Yep...really weird...they checked him and no ACLs showed up on the X-ray...but he's been that way all through college and it hasn't stopped him yet. I guess if you don't have ACLs, you can't tear them. :D

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Dm4sFu73cJo/SCF-H3U7B-I/AAAAAAAAFtA/Hnsz1kamkhU/s400/01aabknight3.jpg

I've had worse!

Spursfan092120
06-26-2009, 03:23 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Dm4sFu73cJo/SCF-H3U7B-I/AAAAAAAAFtA/Hnsz1kamkhU/s400/01aabknight3.jpg

I've had worse!
:lmao:lmao classic..I actually dressed as that dude for Halloween one year. Had the severed arm and everything.

IronMexican
06-26-2009, 04:11 PM
Lol, JA Adande with the line of the day: If you don't have ACL's you can't tear them.

ulosturedge
06-26-2009, 04:27 PM
He has no ACLs. dude is a freak of modern medicine.

I'm not sure what the risks are. but I guess, IF he was to injure his knees. That would be it for him. his career would be over. that would b the risk

lol no. He would just get them fixed the way you are suppose to get them fixed lol. Then he would be like any other athlete that has come back from ACL surgery. Aka Sean Elliott and whoever else you can think of.

Hooks
06-26-2009, 08:36 PM
aka Glen Davis


I was thinking of more like Paul Millsap, Glen Davis is 290lbs of fat while Blair is around 270lbs of muscle he's only got 12% body fat.


I can't wait to see him go after boards and box out people, should be fun to watch hopefully he'll get us a lot of offensive boards.

ezau
06-26-2009, 10:17 PM
No, he would look terrible alongside Shaq. Two of them in the paint would be absurd.

Why did teams pass on Ginobli and Parker then? Surely something has to be wrong with them.

This +1000

daslicer
06-26-2009, 11:54 PM
Nobody is expecting him to be the next Charles Barkley or Karl Malone. If the guy can be Malik Rose part 2 then it will be termed a great pick because its very hard to even find guys who can be solid role players espescially in the second round. I think the reason 30 teams passed him in the first round had everything to do with him having no ACL's and the thought of him having a serious injury probably scared them. Blair getting picked in the second round is a low risk high reward deal.

Spursmania
06-27-2009, 12:10 AM
It's funny how may posters cannot comprehend that it is completely possible to play with no acl's. They are making all types of shit up...

In fact, Sean Elliott played with no acl's in one knee. Of course, Blair's career will be shorter than average because of his knee issues. But barring any other catastrophic injuries to his knees, he should work out really well for the immediate 3-5 years or so. This was a no risk and high reward pick for the Spurs anyway at 37.

Tully365
06-27-2009, 01:32 AM
It's funny how may posters cannot comprehend that it is completely possible to play with no acl's. They are making all types of shit up...

In fact, Sean Elliott played with no acl's in one knee. Of course, Blair's career will be shorter than average because of his knee issues. But barring any other catastrophic injuries to his knees, he should work out really well for the immediate 3-5 years or so. This was a no risk and high reward pick for the Spurs anyway at 37.

It's not that people can't comprehend the idea of someone getting their ACL surgically removed, or of a torn ACL not being repaired, as was the case with Elliott-- the problem is the explanations given so far. They are either badly worded, or just medically incorrect. If Blair's ACLs are now completely covered by scar tissue to the point where an MRI only shows scar tissue and no actual ligament, that makes sense. But the original wording made it sound like they had magically disappeared, which I don't think is the case.

It's funny how many posters cannot comprehend that ACLs do not vanish into thin air.

Chances are, no one here really understands right now completely what the exact situation with his knees is.... especially you. Why do you feel the need to criticize others who are trying to figure it out?

DrHouse
06-27-2009, 01:37 AM
Doesn't matter. A 37th pick rookie isn't going to make or break the Spur's season.

xellos88330
06-27-2009, 01:41 AM
Doesn't matter. A 37th pick rookie isn't going to make or break the Spur's season.

He was projected mid 1st round. Considering the Spurs lacked physicality and toughness last season, I think he will do wonders for the Spurs.

KSeal
06-27-2009, 01:42 AM
Doesn't matter. A 37th pick rookie isn't going to make or break the Spur's season.

You obviously haven't spend any time on the Spurs board :lmao

6'6 no ACL's just won them their fifth title.

xellos88330
06-27-2009, 01:48 AM
You obviously haven't spend any time on the Spurs board :lmao

6'6 no ACL's just won them their fifth title.

Alot of the people in the Spurs forums aren't saying he will be a "savior" of any kind. We are mostly excited that could very well be a solid rotation big that will bring toughness and intensity to the boards. The rotation big that I can remember the Spurs having that did that was Malik Rose. He was undersized, but he played his heart out and battled with the likes of Shaq and the other giants down low. If he works out, then the Spurs will have another piece that will help bring the LoBT back to San Antonio. Alot of us still think the Spurs still need a proven big.

NewJerSpur
06-27-2009, 02:22 AM
If anything, maybe Blair is our version of Brandon Bass who has proven to be a steal by the Mavs.

DrHouse
06-27-2009, 02:58 AM
Alot of the people in the Spurs forums aren't saying he will be a "savior" of any kind. We are mostly excited that could very well be a solid rotation big that will bring toughness and intensity to the boards. The rotation big that I can remember the Spurs having that did that was Malik Rose. He was undersized, but he played his heart out and battled with the likes of Shaq and the other giants down low. If he works out, then the Spurs will have another piece that will help bring the LoBT back to San Antonio. Alot of us still think the Spurs still need a proven big.

You're not winning a championship unless you get serious PROVEN talent on the frontline alongside Duncan.

The Spurs backcourt has never really been an issue. Parker and Ginobili is enough. You will not get past the Lakers until you are capable of at least slowing down Odom, Gasol, and Bynum.

I think the Spurs will improve next season but they still aren't on the Laker's level yet.

NewJerSpur
06-27-2009, 03:23 AM
You're not winning a championship unless you get serious PROVEN talent on the frontline alongside Duncan.

The Spurs backcourt has never really been an issue. Parker and Ginobili is enough. You will not get past the Lakers until you are capable of at least slowing down Odom, Gasol, and Bynum.

I think the Spurs will improve next season but they still aren't on the Laker's level yet.

Bynum is a question mark himself and Odom isn't a lock to return next year. At this point no rookie is proven, so many are going off of potential with no one really knowing either way what a newcomer will actually be able to contribute.

holcs50
06-27-2009, 04:46 AM
Blair will be a good NBA player. I think he'll make a positive impact on the spurs next year. Just wait and watch.

dirk4mvp
06-27-2009, 08:10 AM
It's kinda funny that all this time spur fans have been giving Laker fans shit for massively overrated Bynum, and they're doing the same thing with Blair.

Spursmania
06-27-2009, 08:39 AM
It's not that people can't comprehend the idea of someone getting their ACL surgically removed, or of a torn ACL not being repaired, as was the case with Elliott-- the problem is the explanations given so far. They are either badly worded, or just medically incorrect. If Blair's ACLs are now completely covered by scar tissue to the point where an MRI only shows scar tissue and no actual ligament, that makes sense. But the original wording made it sound like they had magically disappeared, which I don't think is the case.

It's funny how many posters cannot comprehend that ACLs do not vanish into thin air.

Chances are, no one here really understands right now completely what the exact situation with his knees is.... especially you. Why do you feel the need to criticize others who are trying to figure it out?

My point proven. You're making up your own diagnosis.

The article regarding Blair's NO ACL's and why he has no ACL's in the Spurs forum is correct. His tissue was reabsorbed and he has no ACL's. This is not unusual or impossible. This, in fact, happens. It's apparent you'd rather make up what you believe makes sense rather than comprehend the actual explanation. You're comment in bold above about the MRI is truly laughable.

mystargtr34
06-27-2009, 08:50 AM
It's kinda funny that all this time spur fans have been giving Laker fans shit for massively overrated Bynum, and they're doing the same thing with Blair.

So far, no body has said that Dajuan Blair's worst case scenario is Tim Duncan with more athleticism. So its nothing like the Laker fans with Bynum.

Since the draft, iv yet to see one post saying the guy will be even starting - let alone making an All-Star game, or the HoF. He just gives the Spurs something they really need, rebounding.

I think the fact that he was pegged as a lottery pick since about half way through last season adds some excitment too. Nothing wrong with that.

baseline bum
06-27-2009, 12:53 PM
So far, no body has said that Dajuan Blair's worst case scenario is Tim Duncan with more athleticism. So its nothing like the Laker fans with Bynum.

Since the draft, iv yet to see one post saying the guy will be even starting - let alone making an All-Star game, or the HoF. He just gives the Spurs something they really need, rebounding.

I think the fact that he was pegged as a lottery pick since about half way through last season adds some excitment too. Nothing wrong with that.

LOL. dirk4mvp has risen up to be possibly the worst poster in the NBA Forum. Being excited about having a big who can rebound for 15-20 minutes a night is a pretty far cry from Laker fan saying Bynum will be better than Howard.

BlackBellamy
06-27-2009, 01:56 PM
Thanks for being such great ass kissers :tu
Some call it giving the devil his due. :devil::lobt:

Tully365
06-27-2009, 03:35 PM
My point proven. You're making up your own diagnosis.

The article regarding Blair's NO ACL's and why he has no ACL's in the Spurs forum is correct. His tissue was reabsorbed and he has no ACL's. This is not unusual or impossible. This, in fact, happens. It's apparent you'd rather make up what you believe makes sense rather than comprehend the actual explanation. You're comment in bold above about the MRI is truly laughable.

Please explain how his tissue was reabsorbed into his body. I've looked all over medical websites for an explanation and other posters have said they've spoken to friends and family members who are doctors and the explanation doesn't make sense. So, without being a condescending prick who gets annoyed because other people are curious, please explain it.

Remember, you are one of the posters who spread the Hines Ward/Sean Elliott "don't have ACLs" myth originally and that has already been totally shot down as factually untrue.

Spursmania
06-27-2009, 08:19 PM
Please explain how his tissue was reabsorbed into his body. I've looked all over medical websites for an explanation and other posters have said they've spoken to friends and family members who are doctors and the explanation doesn't make sense. So, without being a condescending prick who gets annoyed because other people are curious, please explain it.

Remember, you are one of the posters who spread the Hines Ward/Sean Elliott "don't have ACLs" myth originally and that has already been totally shot down as factually untrue.

As usual you are once again wrong. First, I have never ever posted one word about Hines Ward. Second, RC Buford's post draft video (see spurs forum) talks about Blair, and in it, he specifically states Elliott played with no acl in one leg. I assume he knows what he's talking about. But perhaps you know more than he does.:lol

Lastly, it's not that difficult to understand that in Blair's case tissue was reabsorbed by his body. After surgery, Blair's tissue was reabsorbed into his body-thus he has no ACL's. It really can't get any more simple than that. Point is, he really has no ACL's, so hopefully, he still has a few great years to give us.

Why don't you e-mail Dr. Schmidt, one of the Spurs MD, so he can explain to you how tissue gets absorbed into the body. I don't now how or why it happens, but it did in Blair's case. Reading your post about how it is impossible is laughable and just plain wrong. I doubt orthorpoedic MD's have less knowledge than you and the posters you talk about. Besides, I really have no interest in pursuing this dialogue with you, it's getting old. And, in your case, a little knowledge is scary.

Tully365
06-27-2009, 08:41 PM
Sean Elliott played on an unrepaired torn ACL. When someone says he "doesn't have an ACL", they're speaking in loose, non-medical terms, meaning it's torn and hasn't been repaired. It doesn't mean that there is literally no ACL. When you were 6 years old, or in your case probably 15, and your mommy, with a spoonful of applesauce, said "open up Spursmania, here comes the airplane," did you shit yourself because you literally thought a 747 was going to fly into your mouth? Look it up yourself, dimwit.

You obviously have no knowledge or interest in attaining any, and for some strange reason get annoyed when other people ask simple questions about an explanation that has struck many people --including doctors-- as just a bit odd.

Nice way to end your post with lame mangling of an over-rated quote by Alexander Pope.

Spursmania
06-27-2009, 08:55 PM
Sean Elliott played on an unrepaired torn ACL. When someone says he "doesn't have an ACL", they're speaking in loose, non-medical terms, meaning it's torn and hasn't been repaired. It doesn't mean that there is literally no ACL. When you were 6 years old, or in your case probably 15, and your mommy, with a spoonful of applesauce, said "open up Spursmania, here comes the airplane," did you shit yourself because you literally thought a 747 was going to fly into your mouth? Look it up yourself, dimwit.

You obviously have no knowledge or interest in attaining any, and for some strange reason get annoyed when other people ask simple questions about an explanation that has struck many people --including doctors-- as just a bit odd.

Nice way to end your post with lame mangling of an over-rated quote by Alexander Pope.

you mad:rollin

FYI: I guess, I'll just tell my spouse, who happens to be an M.D. here in SA with a musckuloskeletal specialty and who is a colleague of Dr. Schmidt's here in SA, that you're butt hurt because you can't understand how a person's tissue can be absorbed thus leaving them with no ACL. I'll make sure and add that they must be wrong because you can't google a medical explanation for it.:lmao

Tully365
06-27-2009, 09:58 PM
you mad:rollin

FYI: I guess, I'll just tell my spouse, who happens to be an M.D. here in SA with a musckuloskeletal specialty and who is a colleague of Dr. Schmidt's here in SA, that you're butt hurt because you can't understand how a person's tissue can be absorbed thus leaving them with no ACL. I'll make sure and add that they must be wrong because you can't google a medical explanation for it.:lmao

Cute use of smilies. I bet your spouse is very proud of you going on the internet and using phrases like butt hurt.

Explain this to me: why in the initial report did it say reabsorbed? If what you are proposing is correct it should have said absorbed, not reabsorbed. At the very least, the explanation was poorly worded in the article, which is why thousands of people are asking the very reasonable question about the situation. I've looked at Pittsburgh sites and other draft sites and lots of people have the same question.

Answer me this too: does Sean Elliott have a torn unrepaired ACL, or does he just have no ACL at all?

Tully365
06-27-2009, 10:16 PM
Originally Posted by GSH
The guy I called is an orthopedic surgeon. He e-mailed me a couple of links this evening - one from the Orthopaedic Journal at Harvard Medical School, and the other from the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons. But what the hell, they're probably all quacks.

He said that it is possible that the comment about scar tissue being re-absorbed, etc. was because Blair had an allograft done on his knees, where they take tendon from a cadaver to repair the torn ACL. And that it is fairly common for them to "not take", leaving the person ACL deficient. He said that he can't imagine any surgeon simply removing the torn ACL and then recommending that he continue to play competitive basketball.

And, for the record, he mentioned Hines Ward. He said that Ward is a very unusual exception for being able to compete like he has. But he has played through tremendous pain, and has gone through stretches where he was on the field but not really able to perform. AND he has had surgery for a torn meniscus. The reason he brought Ward up to begin with is because the doctor said that he "had no ACL", when what he meant was that he had torn his ACL. And that statement has led people to spread the myth that Ward was born without an ACL in one knee.

Spursfan092120
06-27-2009, 10:33 PM
It's kinda funny that all this time spur fans have been giving Laker fans shit for massively overrated Bynum, and they're doing the same thing with Blair.
You're an absolute idiot. No one's overrating Blair..we're just saying he can rebound for us for a little while...we don't need an All Star at the big when we have Tony, Manu, RJ, and Timmy playing. We just need a guy who can play the game...Don't hate just because your Mavs drafted BugaBuga and now they're going to lose Kidd as well...your team is falling apart in front of your very eyes, dirk...how do you feel?

http://pro.corbis.com/images/CB043506.jpg?size=572&uid=%7BC5A05210-1837-4178-9F6A-602C73A28C95%7D

BlackSwordsMan
06-27-2009, 10:37 PM
It's kinda funny that all this time spur fans have been giving Laker fans shit for massively overrated Bynum, and they're doing the same thing with Blair.

It's kinda funny cuban hasn't done shit to improve his team

dirk4mvp
06-27-2009, 10:45 PM
You're an absolute idiot. No one's overrating Blair..we're just saying he can rebound for us for a little while...we don't need an All Star at the big when we have Tony, Manu, RJ, and Timmy playing. We just need a guy who can play the game...Don't hate just because your Mavs drafted BugaBuga and now they're going to lose Kidd as well...your team is falling apart in front of your very eyes, dirk...how do you feel?

http://pro.corbis.com/images/CB043506.jpg?size=572&uid=%7BC5A05210-1837-4178-9F6A-602C73A28C95%7D

Spur fan has gone so far as to claim him the 2nd best player in this draft. That's overrating him. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

BadOdor
06-28-2009, 12:11 AM
Spur fan has gone so far as to claim him the 2nd best player in this draft. That's overrating him. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

He watches wrestling lol.

Banzai
06-28-2009, 12:19 AM
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phyzik
06-28-2009, 02:04 AM
Spur fan has gone so far as to claim him the 2nd best player in this draft. That's overrating him. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Considering he was the 2nd or 3rd best big man, and the BEST rebounder by fucking far, in the NCAA I dont know if thats considered totally overrating him. I agree though, some people are overrating him quite a bit, still, its a FAR fucking cry compared to the Laker fans at one point comparing Bynum to Duncan, except more athletic. :rolleyes

xellos88330
06-28-2009, 02:30 AM
You're not winning a championship unless you get serious PROVEN talent on the frontline alongside Duncan.

The Spurs backcourt has never really been an issue. Parker and Ginobili is enough. You will not get past the Lakers until you are capable of at least slowing down Odom, Gasol, and Bynum.

I think the Spurs will improve next season but they still aren't on the Laker's level yet.

I agree that he does have to prove himself. That is what the regular season is for.

The Spurs have alot of potential to retool this season to become a very dynamic team capable of playing alot of different styles. If that potential is realized, the Lakers will be in serious trouble if they stand pat.

sprrs
06-28-2009, 02:46 AM
Have fun watching Blair fade into obscurity over the next few years . . .


lmao spurs fans clinging onto a youtube clip thinking that's how it's gonna be 5 years from now.

5 years from now it won't matter because Duncan and Manu will be gone and it's gonna take a lot more than Blair to make them contenders. We got Blair for the now.

DrHouse
06-28-2009, 03:45 AM
I agree that he does have to prove himself. That is what the regular season is for.

The Spurs have alot of potential to retool this season to become a very dynamic team capable of playing alot of different styles. If that potential is realized, the Lakers will be in serious trouble if they stand pat.

No they won't. Even if all the new additions pan out for the Spurs they are still a notch below a fully healthy Laker team with Andrew Bynum playing to his potential.

And the reason for that is this simple fact:

Kobe+Gasol+Odom+Bynum > Duncan+Ginobili+Parker+RJ

Our core is better than your core. They are defending NBA champions and in the prime of their careers. Half of yours is on its last legs and in the decline of its career.

IronMexican
06-28-2009, 03:56 AM
Cause I don't think SA will be a Championship contender next year, I am an elitist.

Chieflion
06-28-2009, 07:20 AM
No they won't. Even if all the new additions pan out for the Spurs they are still a notch below a fully healthy Laker team with Andrew Bynum playing to his potential.

And the reason for that is this simple fact:

Kobe+Gasol+Odom+Bynum > Duncan+Ginobili+Parker+RJ

Our core is better than your core. They are defending NBA champions and in the prime of their careers. Half of yours is on its last legs and in the decline of its career.
Thats debatable. So you have an inconsistent Odom and young and talented Bynum. Parker and Jefferson are in their prime and have the ability to play a full season healthy. Odom is not even a guarantee to be back.

BadOdor
06-28-2009, 11:08 AM
Let's not forget about SA's shit bench that shot 20% in the playoffs. I'm gonna enjoy watching bonner airball threes next year, too.

BlackBellamy
06-28-2009, 11:24 AM
The majority of you Lakers fans are so negative, you have twisted this thread into something it was not created in the slightest to be. Can you just be gracious for once like your fellow Lakers fan Deadly Dynasty was intending? Blair will suit the purpose that we brought him in for (if his health maintains), that is all, he is not our savior. But give the guy a chance to play one f*cking game in the NBA for chrissakes, before you delegitimize him to Spurs fans. Otherwise you look petty, insecure, gloating or intimidated, which is not becoming at all for champions (or even fans of champions).

Spursfan092120
06-28-2009, 12:02 PM
Spur fan has gone so far as to claim him the 2nd best player in this draft. That's overrating him. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
No idiot...Spurfan didn't claim that....stats did. ESPN mentioned it. If you go by PER, the numbers are right there in black and white that he is the second best in that situation..that's all we said. Don't try to put words in people's mouth...idiot...You're a horrible poster when you're hating, dirk...you should stop that...then maybe you'll be a somewhat decent poster again.

Spursfan092120
06-28-2009, 12:04 PM
He watches wrestling lol.
yeah...I do...your point?

dirk4mvp
06-28-2009, 12:06 PM
lol spur fans double standard

Spursfan092120
06-28-2009, 12:08 PM
No they won't. Even if all the new additions pan out for the Spurs they are still a notch below a fully healthy Laker team with Andrew Bynum playing to his potential.

And the reason for that is this simple fact:

Kobe+Gasol+Odom+Bynum > Duncan+Ginobili+Parker+RJ

Our core is better than your core. They are defending NBA champions and in the prime of their careers. Half of yours is on its last legs and in the decline of its career.
Here's my question...do you even know what Bynum's potential is? If he's played below his potential this whole time, how they hell do you even know that he has potential? Because he's in purple and gold? And if you think Kobe, Gasol, Odom, and Bynum are better than Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, and RJ, you are the worst homer in the history of homers. But we all knew that already...

xellos88330
06-28-2009, 01:39 PM
No they won't. Even if all the new additions pan out for the Spurs they are still a notch below a fully healthy Laker team with Andrew Bynum playing to his potential.

And the reason for that is this simple fact:

Kobe+Gasol+Odom+Bynum > Duncan+Ginobili+Parker+RJ

Our core is better than your core. They are defending NBA champions and in the prime of their careers. Half of yours is on its last legs and in the decline of its career.

Odom and Bynum are too inconsistent to be called a "core". You are relying on the "potential of Bynum" to give the Lakers the advantage? That is the same thing alot of Spurs fans are hoping for in Blair.

Sure Duncan is older, however, he still put up 19pts and 10 rebounds last season.

In order to really debate teams, we will have to wait and see what will happen in the FA market. Then this will be continued. After all, someone could lure away Lamar Odom or Ariza from the Lakers.

DrHouse
06-28-2009, 02:37 PM
Odom and Bynum are too inconsistent to be called a "core". You are relying on the "potential of Bynum" to give the Lakers the advantage? That is the same thing alot of Spurs fans are hoping for in Blair.

Sure Duncan is older, however, he still put up 19pts and 10 rebounds last season.

In order to really debate teams, we will have to wait and see what will happen in the FA market. Then this will be continued. After all, someone could lure away Lamar Odom or Ariza from the Lakers.

The Lakers have nothing to prove to anyone. They are the defending champs and were hands down the best team in the NBA last season. Everyone else is merely playing catchup.

They were not the team that lost to the _allas Mavericks in the 1st round despite having HCA. That team has much to prove before we can even put them in the same sentence as the Lakers.

Muser
06-28-2009, 02:49 PM
We've got a whole summer of this on spurstalk. :sleep

z0sa
06-28-2009, 02:51 PM
The Lakers have nothing to prove to anyone.

That incredibly easy path to the 'ship they took proved absolutely nothing. Just because LA made it look way harder than it should have been doesn't change that fact.

The same could be said about LA's path to the Finals last year before they met a healthy contender, who promptly curbstomped them.

DrHouse
06-28-2009, 03:05 PM
That incredibly easy path to the 'ship they took proved absolutely nothing. Just because LA made it look way harder than it should have been doesn't change that fact.

The same could be said about LA's path to the Finals last year before they met a healthy contender, who promptly curbstomped them.

The Lakers have nothing to prove to ANYONE. They are the defending champs and were the best team in the league last season.

65 wins
4-0 record against CLE/BOS
16-7 playoff record

It's not their fault the Western Conference can't match them.

The Lakers are the best, the champs, the gold standard. Everyone else is just playing catchup.

Oh, 15 rings faggot.

z0sa
06-28-2009, 03:10 PM
the lakers have nothing to prove to anyone. They are the defending champs and were the best team in the league last season.

65 wins
4-0 record against cle/bos
16-7 playoff record

it's not their fault the western conference can't match them.

The lakers are the best, the champs, the gold standard. Everyone else is just playing catchup.

Oh, 15 rings faggot.








that incredibly easy path to the 'ship they took proved absolutely nothing. Just because la made it look way harder than it should have been doesn't change that fact.

The same could be said about la's path to the finals last year before they met a healthy contender, who promptly curbstomped them.

qft

mingus
06-28-2009, 03:11 PM
Spurs pick up a big in FA and they're as good as LA, easily, based on talent alone. pretty much anyone who's not a Laker fan is in agreement on this.

xellos88330
06-28-2009, 03:13 PM
The Lakers have nothing to prove to anyone. They are the defending champs and were hands down the best team in the NBA last season. Everyone else is merely playing catchup.

They were not the team that lost to the _allas Mavericks in the 1st round despite having HCA. That team has much to prove before we can even put them in the same sentence as the Lakers.

They still have alot to prove in my book. They had a hard time getting past the Rockets' injury riddled team. They lucked out this year. They need to prove themselves against a healthy team.

z0sa
06-28-2009, 03:15 PM
They still have alot to prove in my book. They had a hard time getting past the Rockets' injury riddled team. They lucked out this year. They need to prove themselves against a healthy team.


+1

mingus
06-28-2009, 03:16 PM
and LA hasn't even signed odom or Ariza. either one of them go and they may be second or third best in the west. if Odom goes they lose their freak athleticism and size in the frontcourt. i'd put them below Orlando, Boston, Clevelend, Denver, San Antonio if that happens. it's going to be an interesting off-season for LA. a lot of ?

DeadlyDynasty
06-28-2009, 03:25 PM
That incredibly easy path to the 'ship they took proved absolutely nothing. Just because LA made it look way harder than it should have been doesn't change that fact.

The same could be said about LA's path to the Finals last year before they met a healthy contender, who promptly curbstomped them.

Wtf are you smoking? You DO realize that there has never been an easier path to a title than 2007, right? The only tough series was marred by crooked officiating (Donaghy) and rule technicalities. Nuggets, suns, Jazz, and the LeBrons...OMG:wow

I guess that means the 2007 title means jack shit, right? You might wanna think before you post next time, lest you look like a fool

Spursfan092120
06-28-2009, 03:30 PM
The Spurs current roster is not even a top three team in the West. I highly doubt they could beat the Mavs. Duncan must get help down low.
and we will..if you honestly think we're going into the season with this squad, you aren't playing with a full deck. Pop and RC have already said they will use their exceptions to pick up some bigs...expect another big signing for SA before the season...at least one more big signing, and one minor.

z0sa
06-28-2009, 04:26 PM
Wtf are you smoking? You DO realize that there has never been an easier path to a title than 2007, right? The only tough series was marred by crooked officiating (Donaghy) and rule technicalities. Nuggets, suns, Jazz, and the LeBrons...OMG:wow

See, its quite the opposite case here. The Spurs were the best and they knew it. They clearly backed it up with extremely solid play on both ends, and we're essentially unstoppable to any team that year, with or without injuries. Hence that 16-4 record and complete domination of the Finals. I won't mention the fact we played relatively healthy teams all the way through (larry Hughes was the only 'big name' player injury we played against, AFAIR)

Now let's take a look at the lakers run. First off, it must be noted every contender other than LA had injury problems (LeBrons showed they were weak contenders at best).
Jazz (injuries, chemistry problems): the Spurs handily beat a younger, much more cohesive incarnation of this team in 07 with less talent. The Lakers put on the same type of show, except its 2 years later and the Jazz a lot shittier because of injury/chemistry issues.

Houston (major injuries): By far the most incriminating evidence against this "playoff run" proving anything .Without their two highest paid superstars, a D-League team + Ron Artest, with a 6'6 guy at center, took that huge frontline of LA to work and pushed them to 7 games. This right here makes the Lakers' run unimpressive, and proves their armor is easily chinked. I won't mention noname Brooks making your interior D look like playground ball at the elementary.

Denver (injuries): probably the best team they played, which is truly sad. Carmelo was injured the entire series and definitely showed it past game 1 or so. I upped my respect for him (not much) when he played through his injuries, but that team didn't belong - they're still only second tier and it showed when they lost by 20 at home with their backs against the wall.

Orlando (injuries, chemistry problems): with a healthy Jameer, they would definitely give LA a run for their money. Sad truth is, Jameer wasn't healthy for 4 months and by playing him for big minutes in big moments, SVG destroyed the fragile chemistry that had been created throughout the playoffs with Rafer. Even if he hadn't have played, SVG knew he needs Nelson to win against LA so it was lose-lose.

In reality, the Lakers' 16-7 record is a travesty. They shouldn't have lost more than twice considering their talent level and injury problems of every other contender.


I guess that means the 2007 title means jack shit, right?

16-4 >> 16-7, and Donaghy didn't do shit for the spurs and its been proven call by call countless times on this very forum. I won't dig it up for the post-February 1st, 2008 LAfan. You're honestly a douche to use this considering the evidence clearly shows different. The only conclusion is that you're an NBA newbie who didn't pour through call after call Donaghy made that game, because everyone else did and the results are in: Donaghy didn't do shit for the spurs.


You might wanna think before you post next time, lest you look like a fool

That incredibly easy path to the 'ship they took proved absolutely nothing. Just because LA made it look way harder than it should have been doesn't change that fact.

The same could be said about LA's path to the Finals last year before they met a healthy contender, who promptly curbstomped them.

Muser
06-28-2009, 04:50 PM
Fuck, Spurs won in 07, Lakers won in 09. What the fuck do the paths to the trophy mean? You can only beat the teams put infront of you.

z0sa
06-28-2009, 04:54 PM
Fuck, Spurs won in 07, Lakers won in 09. What the fuck do the paths to the trophy mean? You can only beat the teams put infront of you.

i agree. Tell that to Lakerfan saying they don't got shit to prove just because their team won it all against subpar competition. A healthy team could destroy you a la Boston in 08, LA vs Spurs that same year, so don't act like its farfetched.

DeadlyDynasty
06-28-2009, 05:02 PM
See, its quite the opposite case here. The Spurs were the best and they knew it. They clearly backed it up with extremely solid play on both ends, and we're essentially unstoppable to any team that year, with or without injuries. Hence that 16-4 record and complete domination of the Finals. I won't mention the fact we played relatively healthy teams all the way through (larry Hughes was the only 'big name' player injury we played against, AFAIR)

Now let's take a look at the lakers run. First off, it must be noted every contender other than LA had injury problems (LeBrons showed they were weak contenders at best).
Jazz (injuries, chemistry problems): the Spurs handily beat a younger, much more cohesive incarnation of this team in 07 with less talent. The Lakers put on the same type of show, except its 2 years later and the Jazz a lot shittier because of injury/chemistry issues.

Houston (major injuries): By far the most incriminating evidence against this "playoff run" proving anything .Without their two highest paid superstars, a D-League team + Ron Artest, with a 6'6 guy at center, took that huge frontline of LA to work and pushed them to 7 games. This right here makes the Lakers' run unimpressive, and proves their armor is easily chinked. I won't mention noname Brooks making your interior D look like playground ball at the elementary.

Denver (injuries): probably the best team they played, which is truly sad. Carmelo was injured the entire series and definitely showed it past game 1 or so. I upped my respect for him (not much) when he played through his injuries, but that team didn't belong - they're still only second tier and it showed when they lost by 20 at home with their backs against the wall.

Orlando (injuries, chemistry problems): with a healthy Jameer, they would definitely give LA a run for their money. Sad truth is, Jameer wasn't healthy for 4 months and by playing him for big minutes in big moments, SVG destroyed the fragile chemistry that had been created throughout the playoffs with Rafer. Even if he hadn't have played, SVG knew he needs Nelson to win against LA so it was lose-lose.

In reality, the Lakers' 16-7 record is a travesty. They shouldn't have lost more than twice considering their talent level and injury problems of every other contender.



16-4 >> 16-7, and Donaghy didn't do shit for the spurs and its been proven call by call countless times on this very forum. I won't dig it up for the post-February 1st, 2008 LAfan. You're honestly a douche to use this considering the evidence clearly shows different. The only conclusion is that you're an NBA newbie who didn't pour through call after call Donaghy made that game, because everyone else did and the results are in: Donaghy didn't do shit for the spurs.



That incredibly easy path to the 'ship they took proved absolutely nothing. Just because LA made it look way harder than it should have been doesn't change that fact.

The same could be said about LA's path to the Finals last year before they met a healthy contender, who promptly curbstomped them.

Once again, put down the crack pipe...you lucked out when Dallas got the worst playoff draw possible. Dallas owned your asses. Please just STFU with this nonsense. If you win the NBA Championship than--as a team-- you have nothing to prove. Do you know why? BECAUSE YOU JUST FUCKING WON IT.

It's really quite simple.

mingus
06-28-2009, 05:10 PM
The Spurs current roster is not even a top three team in the West. I highly doubt they could beat the Mavs. Duncan must get help down low.

like I said in my post, IF the Spurs pick up a Pachulia, Bird Man, Rasheed, McDyess, the Spurs' roster is as good as anybody else's. to say otherwise is to be in complete denial. that's give them a formidable frontline to go along with their talent-filled backcourt.

the Spurs are a FA big away from being as good as anyone else in this league, after analyst after analyst thought they were a franchise whose best years were past them. Lakers fans are struggling to process all of this, after they'd been told their team would win the next fifty championships with its current roster.

Banzai
06-28-2009, 05:34 PM
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IronMexican
06-28-2009, 05:38 PM
lol spur fans double standard

What double standard? We(Laker fans) aren't aloud to get excited about a 7'1 Center who has put up 42 points in a game before. But, they can get excited over a 6'7 PF who has no ACL. I see no double standard.

DrHouse
06-28-2009, 06:13 PM
The Lakers are the 2009 NBA Champions.

The Spurs are an old over the hill shit team that lost in the 1st round to fucking Dallas despite having HCA. :lmao

ulosturedge
06-28-2009, 06:18 PM
It's too early to be shit talking about next season. Way too early...

mingus
06-28-2009, 06:35 PM
The Lakers are the 2009 NBA Champions.

:blah

you are SO last year ... :hat

Spursfan092120
06-28-2009, 06:55 PM
The Lakers are the 2009 NBA Champions.

The Spurs are an old over the hill shit team that lost in the 1st round to fucking Dallas despite having HCA. :lmao
You're an idiot...over the hill? You do know that our average age is only 2 years older than LA now, right? lol...we got a hell of a lot younger...and better. Don't hate. Yes..you won the title..but guess what House...the season's over...congrats on last season's championship.

DrHouse
06-28-2009, 07:02 PM
You're an idiot...over the hill? You do know that our average age is only 2 years older than LA now, right? lol...we got a hell of a lot younger...and better. Don't hate. Yes..you won the title..but guess what House...the season's over...congrats on last season's championship.

And guess what? The Lakers won it all.

And your team didn't. In fact your team got embarrassed by the _allas Mavericks.

Next.

MambaJuice2408
06-28-2009, 08:23 PM
that your lakers might see the spurs next year :lol

you look like your a little nervos fag boy or girl or whatever the fuck you are tranny i dunno posting in all these spurs threads recently

acl's lol? i think there a difference between a real man name dejaun blair who plays through them and a little overated bitch name bynum that dosent :rollin

An expert on men LMAO

MambaJuice2408
06-28-2009, 08:30 PM
Spurs pick up a big in FA and they're as good as LA, easily, based on talent alone. pretty much anyone who's not a Laker fan is in agreement on this.

I can agree with this. The Lakers have a healthier core at this point so I'd give them the edge. But in terms of talent it will be close.

mystargtr34
06-28-2009, 08:34 PM
Right now its clear the Lakers are the best in the West. As good as they were, they did rely on injuries probably more than any other champion in quite a few years, and were still tested alot, so theyre not this indestructable force by any means. In terms of their matchup....

Parker - Fisher
Manu - Kobe
Jefferson - Ariza
Duncan - Gasol
MLE Big - Bynum/Odom

From positions 1 through 4, if healthy the Spurs are clearly better than the Lakers. Jefferson may not be a perrenial All-Star, but having him over Michael Finley, well its almost like the equivalent of adding an All-NBA First teamer. Thats the type of improvement the Spurs can expect from the position that so often killed them last season.

The biggest question mark will obviously be the MLE Big. The Bynum/Odom combo just kills the Spurs. Even a sevicable big who can play D and more importantly rebound, will be huge upgrade over Matt Bonner, a guy like a Rasheed Wallace or Antonio McDyess, both better than servicable, will cut out a serious amount of that advantage Bynum and Odom have over the Spurs.

But, its better to compare after seeing what the Spurs do with their MLE and LLE.

Spursfan092120
06-28-2009, 09:56 PM
And guess what? The Lakers won it all.

And your team didn't. In fact your team got embarrassed by the _allas Mavericks.

Next.
Guess what? That was last season. :D

Man In Black
06-29-2009, 12:34 AM
All that talk from DocMouse, the guy that jumped off his team's bandwagon during the Rocket series.

What The Fuck Ever!
He keeps talking about Dallas, when he knows(but won't post) how hard it is to win when you know going in, you're down 1 (as Kobe says) Bad-ass 2 guard.


Seriously, were you talking this much shit when your Lakers were up 3-1 to Phoenix only to get booted out in the 1st round?