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Darkwaters
06-26-2009, 08:46 AM
Considering all the guys we
a) Just drafted
b) have stashed in Europe
c) have stashed in Austin
d) having loafing on the team

We could very well assemble one hell of a summer league team. Consider that all of these players are connected strongly to the Spurs and may participate:

DeJuan Blair
Jack McClinton
Nando de Colo
George Hill
Ian Mahinmi
Marcus Williams
Malik Hairston
James Gist
Viktor Sanikidze

I would assume that all of the above (minus probably Sanikidze) will participate. It's really too bad that the RMR is toast, otherwise this summer might have been a LOT of fun.

Rover82
06-26-2009, 08:51 AM
the above = summer league dynasty!

hater
06-26-2009, 08:58 AM
James Gist motherfuckers!!!

Texas_Ranger
06-26-2009, 09:03 AM
This team will kick some ass!! I'm sure that they would defeat Phoenix Suns NBA league roster in a playoffs series.:ihit

Bruno
06-28-2009, 06:14 PM
Tomas Pacesas, the Lithuanian coach of Prokom (polish team) will be one of coach Bud assistant.

http://209.85.227.132/translate_c?hl=en&sl=pl&tl=en&u=http://www.sport.pl/koszykowka/1,65090,6766948,Tomas_Pacesas__trener_mistrzow_Pol ski__bedzie_pracowal.html&prev=hp&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhhnjTYU4U2OGT6b1-nIgNfhEd57kQ

BillMc
06-28-2009, 06:17 PM
How many Summer league guys make the Spurs this year?

Hill (obviously)
Blair
And....?

bigdog
06-28-2009, 06:17 PM
Tomas Pacesas, the Lithuanian coach of Prokom (polish team) will be one of coach Bud assistant.

http://209.85.227.132/translate_c?hl=en&sl=pl&tl=en&u=http://www.sport.pl/koszykowka/1,65090,6766948,Tomas_Pacesas__trener_mistrzow_Pol ski__bedzie_pracowal.html&prev=hp&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhhnjTYU4U2OGT6b1-nIgNfhEd57kQ

I thought Newman was going to coach them again this year?

ElNono
06-28-2009, 06:27 PM
Is Hill in the Summer League a sure thing? I don't think he's got much to prove as far as being in the Spurs roster. I honestly think we won't see him there...

bigdog
06-28-2009, 06:29 PM
Is Hill in the Summer League a sure thing? I don't think he's got much to prove as far as being in the Spurs roster. I honestly think we won't see him there...

I'm pretty sure he'll be in there. No matter what, he still needs experience, and even if this is Summer League, it's still experience. If he plays the point in the SL, it could help him a lot.

Libri
06-28-2009, 06:30 PM
Considering all the guys we
a) Just drafted
b) have stashed in Europe
c) have stashed in Austin
d) having loafing on the team

We could very well assemble one hell of a summer league team. Consider that all of these players are connected strongly to the Spurs and may participate:

DeJuan Blair
Jack McClinton
Nando de Colo
George Hill
Ian Mahinmi
Marcus Williams
Malik Hairston
James Gist
Viktor Sanikidze

I would assume that all of the above (minus probably Sanikidze) will participate. It's really too bad that the RMR is toast, otherwise this summer might have been a LOT of fun.

There is also Alex Garcia and possibly Terrell McIntyre.

Spursmania
06-28-2009, 06:31 PM
When does the tv summer league schedule come out?:hungry:

ffadicted
06-28-2009, 06:32 PM
Is Hill in the Summer League a sure thing? I don't think he's got much to prove as far as being in the Spurs roster. I honestly think we won't see him there...

Hill still has a long way to be a legitimate point guard. He needs to go to the summer league with a pass/create mentality and not try to score too much.

exstatic
06-28-2009, 06:32 PM
How many Summer league guys make the Spurs this year?

Hill (obviously)
Blair
And....?

You know that the Spurs are at or over the tax, and they have only nine players signed, eight if Fin opts out. You must carry a minimum of thirteen on your roster. They will sign one big man at MLE or most of MLE cost, but everyone else will be on the cheap. That means second rounders or former second rounders like Gist, Hairston and Williams. At least four of them will make the roster, more if the Spurs are amenable to carrying 14 or 15 on the roster, and farming them out to Austin.

EricB
06-28-2009, 06:32 PM
Austin Nichols the french kid don't forget him.

Nando De Colo will NOT be with the Summer league team, he will be with the French National team wich is OK.

Alot higher competition and getting even more familiar with Parker than he already is IMO.

duncan228
06-28-2009, 06:37 PM
Is Hill in the Summer League a sure thing? I don't think he's got much to prove as far as being in the Spurs roster. I honestly think we won't see him there...

Hill will be there.

McDonald: The George Hill All-Stars And Tony Parker Plays Futbol (And Spurs SL Sched)

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128909

Bruno
06-28-2009, 06:40 PM
I thought Newman was going to coach them again this year?

The article say that Coach Bud will be Spurs SL head coach.
Maybe it's wrong but it is what they are saying.

duncan228
06-28-2009, 06:43 PM
For what it's worth, the McDonald article says Newman will be the coach.

coyotes_geek
06-28-2009, 07:02 PM
Is Hill in the Summer League a sure thing? I don't think he's got much to prove as far as being in the Spurs roster. I honestly think we won't see him there...

There's no reason for Hill not to be there. Yeah he's already got a roster spot, but it's still a great opportunity for him to get some court time meshing with guys like Blair, McClinton, Gist and anyone else who might have a shot at making the team.

EricB
06-28-2009, 07:03 PM
The article say that Coach Bud will be Spurs SL head coach.
Maybe it's wrong but it is what they are saying.

Cross your fingers that its Bud.

El Jefe
06-28-2009, 07:12 PM
Anyone going to the Summer League this year? I just found out my schedule, I'll be out there for the first weekend. I'll only get a shot at one Spurs game, but it's better than nothing. :)

exstatic
06-28-2009, 07:35 PM
For what it's worth, the McDonald article says Newman will be the coach.

It's more likely Budenholzer, then. :lol

ElNono
06-28-2009, 07:40 PM
Hill will be there.

McDonald: The George Hill All-Stars And Tony Parker Plays Futbol (And Spurs SL Sched)

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128909

Thanks. :tu

ElNono
06-28-2009, 07:41 PM
Anyone going to the Summer League this year? I just found out my schedule, I'll be out there for the first weekend. I'll only get a shot at one Spurs game, but it's better than nothing. :)

I'm heading to Vegas the 24. :bang
Oh well

4RINGS
06-28-2009, 08:00 PM
You know that the Spurs are at or over the tax, and they have only nine players signed, eight if Fin opts out. You must carry a minimum of thirteen on your roster. They will sign one big man at MLE or most of MLE cost, but everyone else will be on the cheap. That means second rounders or former second rounders like Gist, Hairston and Williams. At least four of them will make the roster, more if the Spurs are amenable to carrying 14 or 15 on the roster, and farming them out to Austin.

I don't think Pop likes to have too many young guys on the bench, so most of them will be in Austin next year. But hey, you never know he may be changing his ways and carry 4-5 young guys on the big club roster. I hope... :flag:

anjlbitz
06-28-2009, 08:19 PM
Anyone going to the Summer League this year? I just found out my schedule, I'll be out there for the first weekend. I'll only get a shot at one Spurs game, but it's better than nothing. :)

I will be there! Do you know how much are tickets for the entire SL?

iilluzioN
06-28-2009, 08:22 PM
where will the summer league be played at?

ChumpDumper
06-28-2009, 08:36 PM
I will be there! Do you know how much are tickets for the entire SL?$200 for the whole thing. $25 each day.


where will the summer league be played at?On the UNLV campus in the Thomas & Mack Center and the adjacent Cox Pavilion. Tickets are general admission and work for either venue.

info (http://ev2.evenue.net/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/SEGetEventList?groupCode=NBA&linkID=unlv&RSRC=VSL09&RDAT=EVENTPAGE_2009&utm_source=unlvtickets&utm_medium=eventpage&utm_campaign=VSL09_EVENTPAGE_2009)

Shank
06-28-2009, 09:16 PM
Is NBATv running some of these again this year? Or will we be allowed to link to feeds/replays when available?

timvp
06-28-2009, 09:20 PM
CD, you going this year?

angelbelow
06-29-2009, 12:11 AM
im definitely for hill playing in the SL. itll still be a great experience and he can play against some of the new rookie PGs

Ditty
06-29-2009, 12:20 AM
so when is the real roster being announced lol :)

TDMVPDPOY
06-29-2009, 12:51 AM
$200 for the whole thing. $25 each day.

On the UNLV campus in the Thomas & Mack Center and the adjacent Cox Pavilion. Tickets are general admission and work for either venue.

info (http://ev2.evenue.net/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/SEGetEventList?groupCode=NBA&linkID=unlv&RSRC=VSL09&RDAT=EVENTPAGE_2009&utm_source=unlvtickets&utm_medium=eventpage&utm_campaign=VSL09_EVENTPAGE_2009)

be good if you can give us a review on each player after each game...

i wonder if GHILL has improve his stroke or not.......stroke as in shooting stroke, not the other stroke ok.

ChumpDumper
06-29-2009, 03:14 AM
CD, you going this year?I'm going to say no and surprise myself if I do.

iilluzioN
06-29-2009, 03:26 AM
any news in NBA TV will cover summer league?

spursfan1000
06-29-2009, 05:47 AM
How many Summer league guys make the Spurs this year?

Hill (obviously)
Blair
And....?

probably u can add James Gist to that list.

Bender
06-29-2009, 08:00 AM
we don't have any hold on Hairston do we? Isn't he free & clear to any team?

Spurs9
06-29-2009, 10:13 AM
Where can I see these games?

Mitch Cumsteen
06-29-2009, 10:18 AM
$200 for the whole thing. $25 each day.

On the UNLV campus in the Thomas & Mack Center and the adjacent Cox Pavilion. Tickets are general admission and work for either venue.

info (http://ev2.evenue.net/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/SEGetEventList?groupCode=NBA&linkID=unlv&RSRC=VSL09&RDAT=EVENTPAGE_2009&utm_source=unlvtickets&utm_medium=eventpage&utm_campaign=VSL09_EVENTPAGE_2009)

1. You can usually buy tickets from sketchy dudes outside of the T&M for less than face value.
2. Bud is out this year with a family reunion.

anjlbitz
06-29-2009, 02:05 PM
$200 for the whole thing. $25 each day.


Yikes. A little steep. I was hoping to get in with $10. I will probably go to at least 2 games.

Now I just need to find someone to go with me.

xellos88330
07-01-2009, 01:43 AM
I cannot seem to find the information anywhere. If it has been posted before, please let me know.

Thanks! :flag:

mazerrackham
07-01-2009, 01:44 AM
it should be streamed on nba.com

xellos88330
07-01-2009, 01:45 AM
Thanks!

lefty
07-01-2009, 11:56 AM
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The NBA Summer League will be held at the Cox Pavilion and the Thomas & Mack Center on UNLV's campus.

Results from the Spurs NBA Summer League games will be posted on spurs.com.

1 Malik Hairston
3 George Hill
10 James Gist
13 Nando De Colo
14 Donnell Taylor
16 Carldell "Squeaky" Johnson G
18 Eric Dawson
17 Antonio Anderson
19 Marcus Vinicius
23 Romel Beck
28 Ian Mahinmi
33 Jack McClinton
35 Alonzo Gee
45 DeJuan Blair

HEAD COACH: Don Newman
ASSISTANT COACHES: James Borrego, Patrick Spurgin, Quin Snyder, Marcelo Nikola, Darryl Hardy, Darko Rajakovic, Henry Duque
TRAINERS: Nixon Dorvilien, Daisuke Yamaguchi


2009 SUMMER LEAGUE SCHEDULE

July 12 New Orleans COX Pavilion 3:00 p.m.
July 14 Denver COX Pavilion 9:00 p.m.
July 16 Oklahoma City Thomas & Mack 7:30 p.m.
July 18 Portland Thomas & Mack 9:30 p.m.
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coyotes_geek
07-01-2009, 12:00 PM
No Marcus Williams?

ace3g
07-01-2009, 12:02 PM
I was hoping Austin Nichols and Alex Garcia were on the roster.

Mel_13
07-01-2009, 12:02 PM
1 Malik Hairston
3 George Hill
10 James Gist
13 Nando De Colo
14 Donnell Taylor
16 Carldell "Squeaky" Johnson G
18 Eric Dawson
17 Antonio Anderson
19 Marcus Vinicius
23 Romel Beck
28 Ian Mahinmi
33 Jack McClinton
35 Alonzo Gee
45 DeJuan Blair



Thanks for the info

Good to see Malik on the team

bigdog
07-01-2009, 12:02 PM
De Colo is on the roster? I didn't expect to see him on there. No Marcus Williams? Weird.

TDMVPDPOY
07-01-2009, 12:07 PM
those other guys on the team. what are their profiles?

Ace9
07-01-2009, 12:08 PM
Yeah, I didn't think de Colo was going to participate...does this mean he has a shot at the roster?

DBMethos
07-01-2009, 12:09 PM
All of the Spurs' roster plans should be put on hold until we manage to lock up Squeaky Johnson.

Gino2882
07-01-2009, 12:13 PM
Yeah, I didn't think de Colo was going to participate...does this mean he has a shot at the roster?

Dont believe so. I believe it has been announced he will stay in Europe. No sense in bringing him over as their really isn't a spot for him. He would be 3rd PG.

RobSM64
07-01-2009, 12:15 PM
Romel Beck... isn't he the guy who played for Mexico during the FIBA americas a while back?

ElNono
07-01-2009, 12:16 PM
Romel Beck... isn't he the guy who played for Mexico during the FIBA americas a while back?

Yep. LOL Kobe.

Pj28VvPsjHk

Bruno
07-01-2009, 12:22 PM
The core of expected players is here (Hill, Gist, Mahinmi and Blair).

It's nice to see Hairston being back. He was a quite interesting prospect and it's a good news that Spurs are still interested in him.

De Colo is a surprise. Have Spurs offered him a guaranteed contract? Is he still a maybe to play this SL? Has he changed his mind about SL?

No Marcus Williams is also a surprise. Will Spurs waive him before the SL or will he be traded ?

For the rest, it's quite classical. Some undrafted free agent (Anderson and Gee), some Toros players (Squeaky and Dawson) and some vets (Taylor and Beck).

IMO, the most interesting surprise name is Marcus Vinicius. He was a damn interesting prospect a couple of years ago.

Marcus Bryant
07-01-2009, 12:28 PM
No Marcus Williams is also a surprise. Will Spurs waive him before the SL or will he be traded ?

What could he + Bonner + Finley bring back in a trade (salary level)? Isn't it about $8 mil?

Ace9
07-01-2009, 12:30 PM
those other guys on the team. what are their profiles?

By other guys I assume you don't mean Hairston, Gist, Hill, Colo, Mahinmi, McClinton and Blair.

Article on Austin Toros:
http://www.texastestosteronefestival.com/austin-toros-head-into-playoffs-on-winning-streak/

Donnell Taylor: http://www.bulletsforever.com/story/2007/5/18/174751/598
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/donell_taylor/

Squeaky Johnson:
http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/index.jsp?player=carldell_johnson

Eric Dawson:
http://www.nba.com/dleague/austin/training_camp_roster_07.html

Antonio Anderson:
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Antonio-Anderson-1010/

Marcus Vinicius:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Vinicius_de_Souza

Romel Beck:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romel_Beck

Alonzo Gee:
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Alonzo-Gee-1227/

objective
07-01-2009, 12:31 PM
De Colo is a surprise. Have Spurs offered him a guaranteed contract? Is he still a maybe to play this SL? Has he changed his mind about SL?

Well, you did speculate earlier that he would only play summer league with a contract.

then there's this statement (http://www.sport365.fr/basket-hand-volley/basket/nba/article_327681_Beaubois-a-Dallas-De-Colo-avec-TP.shtml) from an interview he did on the De Colo thread:


"Now we'll see what they offer me. (Gregg) Popovich (Editor's note: San Antonio coach) told me during my test that I loved the European game and Tony (Parker) told me that I was good too. I think I can bring to this team scoring. "After the summer leagues, a decision should be taken in the first half of July, giving the Valencians until July 12 for a response.

Where he basically says he's going to play summer league. EDIT They only play their first game on 7-12. I had wondered if he was just going to be here for workouts and to get to know the coaches and players.

Bruno
07-01-2009, 12:31 PM
what could he + bonner + finley bring back in a trade (salary level)? Isn't it about $8 mil?

$8,327,496 :)

Shastafarian
07-01-2009, 12:31 PM
nevermind

anjlbitz
07-01-2009, 12:34 PM
Can anyone recommend which game I should go to? Like based on the SL rosters of the other teams. Which teams would be a good gauge of the Spurs player's strengths/weaknesses?

Bruno
07-01-2009, 12:35 PM
Where he basically says he's going to play summer league. They only play I think 1 game before 7-12. I had wondered if he was just going to be here for workouts and to get to know the coaches and players.

De Colo didn't say at all that he will play SL in this article. It's the writer that speculate.
I have direct quotes from his agent saying that he won't play SL without a guaranteed contract and will instead play with French NT.

objective
07-01-2009, 12:36 PM
my mistake, I misread where the quotemarks were.

So if he won't play SL without a contract . . . is it reasonable to assume he has a contract?

Marcus Bryant
07-01-2009, 12:40 PM
$8,327,496 :)

Thanks!

So it is quite curious that Williams is not on the roster and De Colo is, no? Perhaps something is afoot.

Marcus Bryant
07-01-2009, 12:43 PM
$8,327,496 :)

Also, why might the Spurs have to wait until July 1 to make a trade involving Williams?

benefactor
07-01-2009, 12:43 PM
Hairston...:tu

It is really strange to see Marcus Williams not on the roster. There almost has to be some sort of trade in the works.

Mel_13
07-01-2009, 12:43 PM
Also, why might the Spurs have to wait until July 1 to make a trade involving Williams?

If it was part of a package with Finley.

EricB
07-01-2009, 12:44 PM
Awesome to see Malik Hairston on there :tu

Bruno
07-01-2009, 12:45 PM
my mistake, I misread where the quotemarks were.

So if he won't play SL without a contract . . . is it reasonable to assume he has a contract?

Well, it could be something else. Maybe he has been put on the roster list while he isn't sure to play SL. Maybe he will only play the first couple of games and com to French NT camp a little late. Maybe he has changed his mind...

In all the case, it's surprising. I hope French press will bring soon some ifnos about that.

objective
07-01-2009, 12:47 PM
maybe Pietrus playing with the NT, making De Colo less vital so he could spend time in the SL?

DPG21920
07-01-2009, 12:47 PM
Also, why might the Spurs have to wait until July 1 to make a trade involving Williams?

If the trade were involving a BYC player from another team, that could be why.

Bruno
07-01-2009, 12:48 PM
Also, why might the Spurs have to wait until July 1 to make a trade involving Williams?

A player can't be traded during 3 months after signing a contract. Williams has signed with Spurs on April 8th. He can't be traded before July 8th.

DPG21920
07-01-2009, 12:49 PM
A player can't be traded during 3 months after signing a contract. Williams has signed with Spurs on April 8th. He can't be traded before July 8th.

Possibly a big day for the Spurs with FA signings and trades.

EricB
07-01-2009, 12:50 PM
RC Buford even said De Colo wouldn't be at Summer League due to him playing for the national team.

Fascinating.

Spurs Brazil
07-01-2009, 12:51 PM
No Garcia but another brazilian guy, Marcus Vinicius, who played for the Hornets.

He's very bad and also had a terrible attitude with Brazil NT last year when he called out the coach via newspaper.

DPG21920
07-01-2009, 12:52 PM
Also, why might the Spurs have to wait until July 1 to make a trade involving Williams?


If it was part of a package with Finley.


If the trade were involving a BYC player from another team, that could be why.


A player can't be traded during 3 months after signing a contract. Williams has signed with Spurs on April 8th. He can't be traded before July 8th.

Does that help :lol

Bruno
07-01-2009, 12:53 PM
Possibly a big day for the Spurs with FA signings and trades.

Yeap, the end of the 3 months period for Williams is the same day that the end of the moratorium.

Marcus Bryant
07-01-2009, 12:54 PM
A player can't be traded during 3 months after signing a contract. Williams has signed with Spurs on April 8th. He can't be traded before July 8th.

Thanks. That's what I was looking for.

Spurs can take back a contract(s) totaling $8.3 mil in annual salary. How much could a team save this season by waiving Williams before his contract becomes guaranteed?

And, of course, if a team sends back a contract(s) with more than one year left, then that team could save ~$8.3 mil next season.

Pucho!!!
07-01-2009, 12:58 PM
A player can't be traded during 3 months after signing a contract. Williams has signed with Spurs on April 8th. He can't be traded before July 8th.

Wasn't there a thread discussing the idea of the Pistons wanting to S&T Sheed. Could this be were the plot thickens?

I also remember hearin de Colo say that he would pull out of the draft if he wasn't getting a guarnteed contract. Now, he could have been just sayin that so that other teams wouldn't draft him or if the Spurs offered him one. Either way, if he comes now, it wouldn't hurt (if Pop treats him right and plays him sum to get his feet wet) or if he stays in Europe and plays in Spain even better cuz he'll get plenty PT and should be able to develop himself.

Bruno
07-01-2009, 12:59 PM
Thanks. That's what I was looking for.

Spurs can take back a contract(s) totaling $8.3 mil in annual salary. How much could a team save this season by waiving Williams before his contract becomes guaranteed?

And, of course, if a team sends back a contract(s) with more than one year left, then that team could save ~$8.3 mil next season.

Asuming Williams contract is fully non-guaranteed (which is likely the case), the other team will have Finely+Bonner under contract for $5.76M. They can maybe also save a little more money by working on a buyout with Finley.

Marcus Bryant
07-01-2009, 12:59 PM
Why would the Pistons do a sign and trade of Wallace with the Spurs?

DPG21920
07-01-2009, 01:00 PM
That is a nice chunk of savings while getting a servicable big man in Bonner to add another type of bigman to the rotation.

Bruno
07-01-2009, 01:00 PM
I also I remember hearin de Colo say that he would pull out of the draft if wasn't getting a guarnteed contract.

De Colo couldn't pull out of the draft. He was automatically eligible.

Marcus Bryant
07-01-2009, 01:01 PM
Asuming Williams contract is fully non-guaranteed (which is likely the case), the other team will have Finely+Bonner under contract for $5.76M. They can maybe also save a little more money by working on a buyout with Finley.

Right. So just like the Jefferson trade, trading with the Spurs for expiring and not fully guaranteed contracts could save a team a significant amount of money, provided that team is fine with minimal basketball value in return (other than, say, a future 1st round pick).

Bruno
07-01-2009, 01:03 PM
Williams being traded isn't the most likely explanation for why he isn't on the roster.
Most likely explanation are that he is injured or that Spurs have told him that they don't count on him for next year and Marcus will be waived to play for another SL team.

elbamba
07-01-2009, 01:03 PM
I think it is a waste to have Hill there. Let him stay in the gym and play a couple of minutes. He has shown he can play, now he needs to develope and summer league is not the place for that.

Spurs Brazil
07-01-2009, 01:04 PM
IMO, the most interesting surprise name is Marcus Vinicius. He was a damn interesting prospect a couple of years ago.

He showed some skills 3 or 4 years ago but in the last 2 seasons he’s been playing terrible.

Pucho!!!
07-01-2009, 01:05 PM
Why would the Pistons do a sign and trade of Wallace with the Spurs?

I dunno, just what I read in one of these threds, but prolly not true cuz he's a UFA now right? Excuse my ignorance haha

Marcus Bryant
07-01-2009, 01:05 PM
Williams being traded isn't the most likely explanation for why he isn't on the roster.
Most likely explanation are that he is injured or that Spurs have told him that they don't count on him for next year and Marcus will be waived to play for another SL team.

Well, sure. But it is a nice trade chip to have.

Bruno
07-01-2009, 01:06 PM
He showed some skills 3 or 4 years ago but in the last 2 seasons he’s been playing terrible.

What happened to him?

Bruno
07-01-2009, 01:07 PM
I think it is a waste to have Hill there. Let him stay in the gym and play a couple of minutes. He has shown he can play, now he needs to develope and summer league is not the place for that.

Hill playing full time point in SL is a good thing for his development.

DPG21920
07-01-2009, 01:07 PM
Ya, why would they waive MW when they can use him in a trade to match salaries and net the team nice savings by having him fully non guaranteed?

Pucho!!!
07-01-2009, 01:08 PM
De Colo couldn't pull out of the draft. He was automatically eligible.

So, I guess the threat I meant to say was that he was gonna not come over if not guaranteed a contract

Spurs Brazil
07-01-2009, 01:24 PM
What happened to him?

Last year some reports indicated that He didn’t have a good work ethic but I think he’s been working hard because if not I doubt the Spurs would offer him this chance.
He played in Spain this year and I haven’t heard about him

ChumpDumper
07-01-2009, 01:38 PM
Props to the Spurs for getting a roster out as early as I ever remember seeing.

Libri
07-01-2009, 01:56 PM
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The NBA Summer League will be held at the Cox Pavilion and the Thomas & Mack Center on UNLV's campus.

Results from the Spurs NBA Summer League games will be posted on spurs.com.

1 Malik Hairston
3 George Hill
10 James Gist
13 Nando De Colo
14 Donnell Taylor
16 Carldell "Squeaky" Johnson G
18 Eric Dawson
17 Antonio Anderson
19 Marcus Vinicius
23 Romel Beck
28 Ian Mahinmi
33 Jack McClinton
35 Alonzo Gee
45 DeJuan Blair

HEAD COACH: Don Newman
ASSISTANT COACHES: James Borrego, Patrick Spurgin, Quin Snyder, Marcelo Nikola, Darryl Hardy, Darko Rajakovic, Henry Duque
TRAINERS: Nixon Dorvilien, Daisuke Yamaguchi


2009 SUMMER LEAGUE SCHEDULE

July 12 New Orleans COX Pavilion 3:00 p.m.
July 14 Denver COX Pavilion 9:00 p.m.
July 16 Oklahoma City Thomas & Mack 7:30 p.m.
July 18 Portland Thomas & Mack 9:30 p.m.
July 19 Memphis COX Pavilion 7:00 p.m.

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djohn14
07-01-2009, 02:10 PM
I remember Romel Beck nearly made the Cavs team last year.

djohn14
07-01-2009, 02:12 PM
I remember Romel Beck nearly made the Cavs team last year.

Check out this video of him owning Kobe Bryant lol...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj28VvPsjHk

I forgot how to embed it, so click on it

Spurs Brazil
07-01-2009, 02:38 PM
NO PLAYER POS. HT. WT. DOB COLLEGE/COUNTRY NBA EXP.
1 Malik Hairston G 6-6 215 2/23/87 Oregon 1
3 George Hill G 6-2 190 5/4/86 IUPUI 1
10 James Gist F 6-9 235 10/26/86 Maryland R
13 Nando De Colo G 6-5 200 6/23/87 France R
14 Donnell Taylor G 6-5 193 7/26/82 Alabama-Birmingham 2
16 Carldell "Squeaky" Johnson G 5-10 180 1/28/83 Alabama-Birmingham R
17 Antonio Anderson G 6-6 215 6/5/85 Memphis R
18 Eric Dawson F/C 6-9 235 7/7/84 Midwestern State R
19 Marcus Vinicius F 6-9 235 5/31/84 Brazil 2
23 Romel Beck G/F 6-7 185 5/29/82 UNLV R
28 Ian Mahinmi C 6-11 250 11/5/86 France 1
33 Jack McClinton G 6-1 185 1/19/85 Miami R
35 Alonzo Gee G 6-6 219 5/29/87 Alabama R
45 DeJuan Blair F 6-7 265 4/22/89 Pittsburgh R

http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/090701_summerleague.html

Bruno
07-01-2009, 02:57 PM
BTW, no Sanikidze.

scottspurs
07-01-2009, 03:09 PM
http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2009/07/01/summer-league-roster/#more-3457

Summer League Roster
Jump to Comments
The Spurs have announced their summer league roster. The team will be coached by Don Newman.

Malik Hairston, G


James Gist, F

Nando De Colo, G

George Hill, G

Donnell Taylor, G

Squeaky Johnson, G

Eric Dawson, F/C

Antonio Anderson, G

Marcus Vinicius, F

Romel Beck, G/F

Ian Mahinmi, C

Jack McClinton, G

Alonzo Gee, G

DeJuan Blair, F

I’m surprised not to see Marcus Williams’ name, and disappointed at the omission of Austin Nichols. The omission of Williams doesn’t tell us anything about his standing with the team. He’s still under contract with the Spurs.

The inclusion of Nando De Colo is noteworthy. I expected him to play for the French National Team this summer. This should give us an early look at a player who could be on the team in the coming years. From what I understand, his current contract will preclude him from joining the Spurs this season.

All in all, it’s a solid roster. If you count McClinton, Hairston and Gist, the team contains 6 players who are likely to make the Spurs’ roster. Squeaky Johnson and Eric Dawson are great additions because of their history with the Toros. The rest of the roster features good prospects that could be a big help in Austin, although Donell Taylor is a mystery to me.

Quin Snyder is an assistant coach.

scottspurs
07-01-2009, 03:10 PM
http://www.poundingtherock.com/2009/7/1/933501/san-antonio-spurs-announce-summer

San Antonio Spurs Announce Summer League Roster
by AusTechSpur on Jul 1, 2009 1:28 PM CDT 7 comments
I know this because Timothy Varner over at 48 Minutes of Hell told me. Thanks. Check out his post for his take. I'll try not to plagiarize the whole thing. For some reason, his opinion and my opinion are similar. What's that opinion? Clickety, clickety, to find out.



The "As Expected" Group

George Hill
Ian Mahinmi
DeJuan Blair
Jack McClinton
James Gist
The "ATS Had The Inside Scoop" Group

Eric Dawson
The "ATS Has Got To Be Beside Himself With Joy, I Can't Believe He'll Be Playing" Group

Nando De Colo
The "He's the Next Best Thing To An Argentine" Group

Marcus Vinicius
The "It Makes Sense For Them" Group

Malik Hairston - This is his best spot to shine and make a team
Squeaky Johnson - He's Toros veteran. His real name is Carldell. Mrs ATS loves that he's called Squeaky.
The "Guys ATS Will Have To Research Before His Trip" Group

Donnell Taylor
Antonio Anderson
Romel Beck
Alonzo Gee
Where the hell is Marcus Williams?

Here's where Timothy and I see eye to eye. I can't see how he's not playing with the Spurs this summer if they are picking up his contract for next year. He's either going to be cut or traded. I can't see anything else happening. It just doesn't make sense. My antenna are on high alert. Or as my old boss said, "my spidey senses are picking something up".

scottspurs
07-01-2009, 03:14 PM
2009 NBA Summer League Game Schedule:


Friday July 10
COX Pavilion
1 PM – Houston vs. Golden State
3 PM – Detroit vs. Sacramento
5 PM – LA Lakers vs. Toronto
7 PM – Milwaukee vs. Dallas

Saturday July 11th
COX Pavilion
1 PM – Toronto vs. Detroit
3 PM – LA Lakers vs. Cleveland
5 PM – Golden State vs. Sacramento
7 PM – Houston vs. Dallas

Sunday July 12th
COX Pavilion
1 PM – New Orleans vs. San Antonio
3 PM – Minnesota vs. Houston
5 PM – Oklahoma City vs. Memphis
7 PM – Cleveland vs. Milwaukee

Monday July 13th
COX Pavilion
1 PM – NBA D-League Select vs. Minnesota
3 PM – Phoenix vs. Dallas
5 PM – Portland vs. Toronto
7 PM – Detroit vs. Golden State

Thomas & Mack
5:30 PM – LA Lakers vs. LA Clippers
7:30 PM – Milwaukee vs. Sacramento

Tuesday July 14th
COX Pavilion
3 PM – New York vs. Memphis
5 PM – Golden State vs. Chicago
7 PM – Denver vs. San Antonio

Thomas & Mack
3:30 PM – Washington vs. Cleveland
5:30 PM – LA Lakers vs. Oklahoma City
7:30 PM – LA Clippers vs. New Orleans

Wednesday July 15th
COX Pavilion
1 PM – New York vs. Detroit
3 PM – Milwaukee vs. Chicago
5 PM – Toronto vs. Phoenix
7 PM – Portland vs. Houston

Thomas & Mack
5:30 PM – Sacramento vs. NBA D-League Select
7:30 PM – Denver vs. Washington

Thursday July 16th
COX Pavilion
1 PM – Toronto vs. Milwaukee
3 PM – Houston vs. LA Lakers
5 PM – New Orleans vs. Golden State
7 PM – Dallas vs. Cleveland

Thomas & Mack
5:30 PM – Oklahoma City vs. San Antonio
7:30 PM – LA Clippers vs. Memphis

Friday July 17th
COX Pavilion
1 PM – Detroit vs. Cleveland
3 PM – Sacramento vs. New York
5 PM – Minnesota vs. Washington
7 PM – Phoenix vs. NBA D-League Select

Thomas & Mack
5:30 PM – Oklahoma City vs. Chicago
7:30 PM – Denver vs. Portland

Saturday July 18th
COX Pavilion
1 PM – Dallas vs. Oklahoma City
3 PM – Chicago vs. New York
5 PM – Memphis vs. Phoenix
7 PM – NBA D-League Select vs. Denver

Thomas & Mack
3:30 PM – Minnesota vs. New Orleans
5:30 PM – LA Clippers vs. Washington
7:30 PM – Portland vs. San Antonio

Sunday July 19th
COX Pavilion
1 PM – Washington vs. New York
3 PM – Minnesota vs. Chicago
5 PM – Memphis vs. San Antonio
7 PM – NBA D-League Select vs. Portland

Thomas & Mack
5:30 PM – Denver vs. New Orleans
7:30 PM – LA Clippers vs. Phoenix

timvp
07-01-2009, 03:16 PM
I like that roster. :tu

Hill really needs to play to work on his point guard skills and give the Spurs confidence that he can play the position. If he lays an egg, the Spurs will probably go find a cheap third string PG.

Mahinmi and Blair should be a very interesting starting twosome at the PF and C. I think it should be a good mix. Mahinmi is a good scorer and shotblocking, while Blair can rebound. Mahinmi really needs to show something to enter training camp at a high note. If it doesn't look like he has improved, that will probably be the first step to the end of his Spurs days. He needs to play better than he did last time.

How Blair looks will like decide how many bigs the Spurs sign this summer. If Blair looks like a beast and can post a high rebounding rate, the Spurs might pencil him in has a 15-20 minutes per night player. If he doesn't look healthy or he struggles against the bigger competition, the Spurs will have to make a point of getting two above average bigs.

I think Gist is mostly a bonus. If he plays really well, that's great and could help him make the team. If he still looks raw, another year in Europe is likely.

I'm glad Hairston is still in the Spurs' plans and will be given a shot to redeem himself after last year's bad summer league showing. He has good defensive potential and plays a very complementary game. I'm also glad Marcus Williams isn't on the team. Williams is a guy who could eat up tons of touches and I'd rather those touches go elsewhere. Without Williams, players like Mahinmi and Gist should get the ball a lot more.

I hope McClinton is used off the bench to see if he can succeed in the role of instant offense.

Antonio Anderson is a player to watch. From Larry Brown:


Anderson averaged 10.2 points a game last season. If he's drafted next week, it's not expected to be until the second round. But Bobcats coach Larry Brown thinks his defensive skills could earn him a spot in the NBA. Brown compared him to Bobcats guard Raja Bell and San Antonio veteran Bruce Bowen.

"He's long, athletic and he's really been well coached,'' Brown said. "The things that John Calipari demands are things that we talk about all the time. I think he could be a lockdown defender and he's a great kid. He's going to get better.''

Compared to Raja Bell and Bruce Bowen? At least deserves a look.

Regarding De Colo, there's no harm in putting him on the summer league roster now even if his situation isn't settled. Teams can change their roster any time. Come the first game, there seems to always be a surprise player on the team and a surprise player not on the team.

scottspurs
07-01-2009, 03:16 PM
Some conversation here:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129751&page=2

Sorry, I didn't know it was already posted.

crc21209
07-01-2009, 03:17 PM
This summer league team is going to be the shit. Gist, Hairston, Mahinmi, Hill, Mclinton, & Blair! Wow! 4-5 of those players could actually be on the Spurs this upcoming season. :tu

DMX7
07-01-2009, 03:19 PM
I've been told Marcus is under contract but its not guaranteed so he probably isn't making this team.

Southwest Texas Fan
07-01-2009, 03:21 PM
By the way how is Mahinmi doing? I know just had surgery in April but is his ankle ready.

Obstructed_View
07-01-2009, 03:22 PM
Man, I'm loving that roster.

urunobili
07-01-2009, 03:34 PM
No Garcia but another brazilian guy, Marcus Vinicius, who played for the Hornets.

He's very bad and also had a terrible attitude with Brazil NT last year when he called out the coach via newspaper.

That's not Spurs material right there... :nope

AFBlue
07-01-2009, 03:35 PM
This summer league team is going to be the shit. Gist, Hairston, Mahinmi, Hill, Mclinton, & Blair! Wow! 4-5 of those players could actually be on the Spurs this upcoming season. :tu

Possibly all six, though it's likely only three get regular PT for them this year.

bigdog
07-01-2009, 03:37 PM
I love this roster. They could kill in the SL.

Williams will most likely not make the team, plus his contract isn't fully guaranteed.

I can see Hairston, Gist, Blair, and even McClinton making the team this year, with maybe McClinton assigned to the Toros.

urunobili
07-01-2009, 03:39 PM
Damn... I wish we could keep them all... :depressed

McClinton would need to shoot the lights out to have a chance to stick... I hope he does... that'd mean we are signing 4 of them... Gist, Blair, McClinton and Hairston... :fingers crossed

coyotes_geek
07-01-2009, 03:40 PM
This summer league team is going to be the shit. Gist, Hairston, Mahinmi, Hill, Mclinton, & Blair! Wow! 4-5 of those players could actually be on the Spurs this upcoming season. :tu

I see Gist and Hairston competing for 1 roster spot, and a fan meltdown whenever that decision gets made.

AFBlue
07-01-2009, 03:51 PM
I see Gist and Hairston competing for 1 roster spot, and a fan meltdown whenever that decision gets made.

Right now they certainly have roster spots available for both. Whether they earn the right to stick with the team is up to them.

Personally, I'd love to see Gist signed to a contract and playing with the Toros. He'd get the chance to learn the system and work on his perimeter game, if the Spurs ultimately view him as a combo forward.

Man Mountain
07-01-2009, 03:54 PM
I like that roster. :tu

Hill really needs to play to work on his point guard skills and give the Spurs confidence that he can play the position. If he lays an egg, the Spurs will probably go find a cheap third string PG.

Mahinmi and Blair should be a very interesting starting twosome at the PF and C. I think it should be a good mix. Mahinmi is a good scorer and shotblocking, while Blair can rebound. Mahinmi really needs to show something to enter training camp at a high note. If it doesn't look like he has improved, that will probably be the first step to the end of his Spurs days. He needs to play better than he did last time.

How Blair looks will like decide how many bigs the Spurs sign this summer. If Blair looks like a beast and can post a high rebounding rate, the Spurs might pencil him in has a 15-20 minutes per night player. If he doesn't look healthy or he struggles against the bigger competition, the Spurs will have to make a point of getting two above average bigs.

I think Gist is mostly a bonus. If he plays really well, that's great and could help him make the team. If he still looks raw, another year in Europe is likely.

I'm glad Hairston is still in the Spurs' plans and will be given a shot to redeem himself after last year's bad summer league showing. He has good defensive potential and plays a very complementary game. I'm also glad Marcus Williams isn't on the team. Williams is a guy who could eat up tons of touches and I'd rather those touches go elsewhere. Without Williams, players like Mahinmi and Gist should get the ball a lot more.

I hope McClinton is used off the bench to see if he can succeed in the role of instant offense.

Antonio Anderson is a player to watch. From Larry Brown:


Anderson averaged 10.2 points a game last season. If he's drafted next week, it's not expected to be until the second round. But Bobcats coach Larry Brown thinks his defensive skills could earn him a spot in the NBA. Brown compared him to Bobcats guard Raja Bell and San Antonio veteran Bruce Bowen.

"He's long, athletic and he's really been well coached,'' Brown said. "The things that John Calipari demands are things that we talk about all the time. I think he could be a lockdown defender and he's a great kid. He's going to get better.''

Compared to Raja Bell and Bruce Bowen? At least deserves a look.

Regarding De Colo, there's no harm in putting him on the summer league roster now even if his situation isn't settled. Teams can change their roster any time. Come the first game, there seems to always be a surprise player on the team and a surprise player not on the team.

what will the starting line up be?

AFBlue
07-01-2009, 03:58 PM
what will the starting line up be?

Starters will likely shift from game to game, with the exception of Hill (PG), Mahinmi (C), and probably Blair (PF).

My guess is Hairston gets the start on most nights at either SG or SF, depending on the 5th player.

tomtom
07-01-2009, 03:59 PM
plenty of opportunites for guys to make the team, spurs need some cheap options to fill the roster

Tully365
07-01-2009, 06:05 PM
Blair is the baby of the team-- born in 1989!

Tully365
07-01-2009, 06:10 PM
NO PLAYER POS. HT. WT. DOB COLLEGE/COUNTRY NBA EXP.
1 Malik Hairston G 6-6 215 2/23/87 Oregon 1
3 George Hill G 6-2 190 5/4/86 IUPUI 1
10 James Gist F 6-9 235 10/26/86 Maryland R
13 Nando De Colo G 6-5 200 6/23/87 France R
14 Donnell Taylor G 6-5 193 7/26/82 Alabama-Birmingham 2
16 Carldell "Squeaky" Johnson G 5-10 180 1/28/83 Alabama-Birmingham R
17 Antonio Anderson G 6-6 215 6/5/85 Memphis R
18 Eric Dawson F/C 6-9 235 7/7/84 Midwestern State R
19 Marcus Vinicius F 6-9 235 5/31/84 Brazil 2
23 Romel Beck G/F 6-7 185 5/29/82 UNLV R
28 Ian Mahinmi C 6-11 250 11/5/86 France 1
33 Jack McClinton G 6-1 185 1/19/85 Miami R
35 Alonzo Gee G 6-6 219 5/29/87 Alabama R
45 DeJuan Blair F 6-7 265 4/22/89 Pittsburgh R

http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/090701_summerleague.html

:lol This team could beat Sacramento in a best-of-seven.

toki9
07-01-2009, 06:10 PM
Blair is the baby of the team-- born in 1989!

So Finley is old enough to be his dad?

Solid D
07-01-2009, 06:31 PM
Damn... I wish we could keep them all... :depressed

McClinton would need to shoot the lights out to have a chance to stick... I hope he does... that'd mean we are signing 4 of them... Gist, Blair, McClinton and Hairston... :fingers crossed

I would give McClinton a high % chance to sign a contract and make the Regular Season roster. He is 24 and night-in and night-out scored on top-level ACC teams. Did you see him sticking shots in the eye on the Tar Heels? Those were contested shots on the NCAA champs. No hesitation, nor conscience.

Best Spurs summer league team lineup ever.

Obstructed_View
07-01-2009, 06:48 PM
I see Gist and Hairston competing for 1 roster spot, and a fan meltdown whenever that decision gets made.

Part of me started to meltdown at the idea that one of them won't make the team.

Bender
07-01-2009, 07:03 PM
SL doesn't really translate over to nba anyway. Last year Tolliver shot lights out in SL, then bricked every shot in the nba.

So vice versa, if one of these new players does great in the SL, or poorly, it may not mean anything.

barbacoataco
07-01-2009, 07:10 PM
What is Hairston's contract situation?

kbrury
07-01-2009, 07:11 PM
none i think

Das Texan
07-01-2009, 07:19 PM
glad to see Hariston on the team. I was impressed by him last year, if he could add a somewhat consistent jumper he has a place in this league.

urunobili
07-01-2009, 07:28 PM
Come on Pop... plz develop Gist here with the big boys...

CGD
07-01-2009, 08:33 PM
Last year some reports indicated that He didn’t have a good work ethic but I think he’s been working hard because if not I doubt the Spurs would offer him this chance.
He played in Spain this year and I haven’t heard about him


I'm intrigued by the Brazilian player the more I read about him. Maybe a year of bouncing around the D-league/Europe humbled him somewhat.

6' 9" SF -- Best Case: Rashard Lewis/Worst Case: Bostjan Nachbar (source DX)

coyotes_geek
07-01-2009, 08:48 PM
What is Hairston's contract situation?

He's a free agent.

bishopospurs
07-01-2009, 10:36 PM
Here is the link to the summer league roster and schedule, sorry if it has been posted already

http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/090701_summerleague.html?rss=true
:lobt2:

SouthTexasRancher
07-01-2009, 10:45 PM
Considering all the guys we
a) Just drafted
b) have stashed in Europe
c) have stashed in Austin
d) having loafing on the team

We could very well assemble one hell of a summer league team. Consider that all of these players are connected strongly to the Spurs and may participate:

DeJuan Blair
Jack McClinton
Nando de Colo
George Hill
Ian Mahinmi
Marcus Williams
Malik Hairston
James Gist
Viktor Sanikidze

I would assume that all of the above (minus probably Sanikidze) will participate. It's really too bad that the RMR is toast, otherwise this summer might have been a LOT of fun.


Damn, Peter Holt almost has himself another franchise. That looks to be a pretty damn good lineup. Just wish we still had Pops. And it is time for Ian Mahinmi to man up and stop getting injured. He can't spend his whole life in Austin on IR unless he decides to go into coaching.

Spurtacus
07-01-2009, 10:51 PM
Carldell "Squeaky" Johnson

:lol

duncan228
07-01-2009, 11:00 PM
Williams nursing wrist injury (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/2009/07/williams-nursin.html)
By Jeff McDonald

There seemed to be a peculiar omission when the Spurs released their summer league roster earlier today.

No Marcus Williams.

Turns out, there is a good reason for Williams' absence. He is injured.

Williams, who finished the season with the Spurs and is expected to join them in training camp this fall, suffered a minor injury to his left wrist during offseason workouts. He should be fine by October.

Mr.Bottomtooth
07-01-2009, 11:07 PM
Shit.

Marcus Bryant
07-01-2009, 11:08 PM
A very valuable trade asset.

Mr.Bottomtooth
07-01-2009, 11:08 PM
Not shit.

EricB
07-01-2009, 11:20 PM
combine his ass with Bonner and Finley and shop their asses like a low mileage corvette.

TheProfessor
07-01-2009, 11:25 PM
What, because he got injured? Give him training camp, at least. If the Spurs locked him up with the non-guaranteed contract, they need to get a look at him before dumping him.

EDIT - On second thought, would they need to cut him before a specific date to stop that contract from getting guaranteed?

Ditty
07-01-2009, 11:35 PM
hairston, gist, mihinmi,blair will be on the spurs roster

mcclinton might spend alot of time in austin might get called down a home game or two if the spurs decide to rest ginobili but hope we dont cut hairston again i love this kid he remind me of the second coming of ariza

Thompson
07-01-2009, 11:35 PM
http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/090701_summerleague.html

I noted this in another thread, but according to the link spursdotcom posted, Ian Mahinmi is 6'11" and 250 pounds. He's bulked up a bit.

timvp
07-01-2009, 11:37 PM
Williams missing summer league probably is a good thing. Him doing well in summer league wouldn't really tell the Spurs anything. The rest of these guys have a lot more work to do and their development will dictate whether other moves are needed in free agency.

Cant_Be_Faded
07-01-2009, 11:45 PM
Williams missing summer league probably is a good thing. Him doing well in summer league wouldn't really tell the Spurs anything. The rest of these guys have a lot more work to do and their development will dictate whether other moves are needed in free agency.

Does not change the fact that giving up the rights to hairston for the rights to williams was stupid. The guy is not fast enough, and has a fucked up jump shot, not a good defender....what the hell were they thinking. Malik actually played spot minutes, already, and proved he could hang. Not playing him summer league just means they are convinced of the same things they were before they reserved his rights. Not a necessarily good thing.

Marcus Bryant
07-01-2009, 11:47 PM
Hill, Blair, Gist, and Mahinmi would give the Spurs a look they haven't had in a while.

Cant_Be_Faded
07-01-2009, 11:48 PM
Hill, Blair, Gist, and Mahinmi would give the Spurs a look they haven't had in a while.

Would be interesting, would force Gist into that 3 we need him for.

Marcus Bryant
07-01-2009, 11:51 PM
Spurs get young, long, and athletic overnight.

Blackjack
07-02-2009, 12:15 AM
Shit.


Not shit.

Would the next logical progression be, no shit?:lol

Blackjack
07-02-2009, 12:16 AM
Oh, and this roster is absolutely ridiculous.:wow

Libri
07-02-2009, 12:26 AM
Spurs get young, long, and athletic overnight.

I thought I would never hear this. :downspin:

Ditty
07-02-2009, 12:28 AM
Spurs get young, long ,hard, and athletic overnight.

fixed
:lol

i jsut had too

no homo

ChumpDumper
07-02-2009, 02:25 AM
Does not change the fact that giving up the rights to hairston for the rights to williams was stupid.Meh, Malik didn't go anywhere.


Oh, and this roster is absolutely ridiculous.:wowI think Orlando's might be deeper. Too bad we don't play them.

ChumpDumper
07-02-2009, 02:39 AM
Williams missing summer league probably is a good thing. Him doing well in summer league wouldn't really tell the Spurs anything. The rest of these guys have a lot more work to do and their development will dictate whether other moves are needed in free agency.True. I want Hill playing as much point guard as possible. I'm not expecting Nando to play either, so Squeaky can back Hill up without pushing for any minutes like the others might.

Marcus will get a chance in camp with the real team to see if he fits -- if he isn't thrown into some trade.

urunobili
07-02-2009, 07:59 AM
Hill, Blair, Gist, and Mahinmi would give the Spurs a look they haven't had in a while.

You aren't high on Hairston that you're leaving him out of that least?

Obstructed_View
07-02-2009, 09:30 AM
Does not change the fact that giving up the rights to hairston for the rights to williams was stupid. The guy is not fast enough, and has a fucked up jump shot, not a good defender....what the hell were they thinking. Malik actually played spot minutes, already, and proved he could hang. Not playing him summer league just means they are convinced of the same things they were before they reserved his rights. Not a necessarily good thing.

Williams was starting to generate some intrerest from NBA teams at the end of the season, and he's now an asset the Spurs can use. Note that Hairston is still out there; I imagine the Spurs explained the situation to him and told him he's in their plans this season.

benefactor
07-02-2009, 09:34 AM
Williams was starting to generate some intrerest from NBA teams at the end of the season, and he's now an asset the Spurs can use. Note that Hairston is still out there; I imagine the Spurs explained the situation to him and told him he's in their plans this season.
Exactly. I am almost sure this is what happened. It was late in the season and Hairston was not going to make much of an impact anyway. He still got paid, so no harm no foul.

Bruno
07-02-2009, 11:01 AM
Something to note about Spurs SL roster is the lack of prospects PF and PF/C aside the one under Spurs contract or whose NBA rights are owned by Spurs.
To fill the PG and PF/C slots, Spurs have selected 2 Toros (Squeaky and Dawson) that aren't basically NBA prospects. It quite shows that Spurs aren't looking at prospects for these spots and are fine with the young players they have.

On the opposite side, there are tons of interesting SG/SF not under contracts with Spurs in the roster. One of them could end up on Spurs roster next year.

HarlemHeat37
07-02-2009, 11:47 AM
July 12th can't come soon enough..

Obstructed_View
07-02-2009, 05:03 PM
Something to note about Spurs SL roster is the lack of prospects PF and PF/C aside the one under Spurs contract or whose NBA rights are owned by Spurs.
To fill the PG and PF/C slots, Spurs have selected 2 Toros (Squeaky and Dawson) that aren't basically NBA prospects. It quite shows that Spurs aren't looking at prospects for these spots and are fine with the young players they have.

On the opposite side, there are tons of interesting SG/SF not under contracts with Spurs in the roster. One of them could end up on Spurs roster next year.

Speaking of that, is basketball season in China over yet?

Bruno
07-02-2009, 05:52 PM
Speaking of that, is basketball season in China over yet?

He is playing with Rockets SL team.

timtonymanu
07-02-2009, 09:03 PM
Blair, Hill, Gist, Hairston, Mahinmi, and McClinton playing together. I cant wait!!!!!

objective
07-03-2009, 03:08 AM
In addition to the Spurs, I'm interested in watching Ibaka, he'll be in both leagues for OKC.

ChumpDumper
07-03-2009, 03:39 AM
Can anyone recommend which game I should go to? Like based on the SL rosters of the other teams. Which teams would be a good gauge of the Spurs player's strengths/weaknesses?At a glance, Portland looks like it has the most complete team after the Spurs -- the Hornets and Nuggets are a little less deep, especially at the point. The Grizz could field very competitive frontlines if nothing else. I don't know enough about the Thunder to have an opinion.

Obstructed_View
07-03-2009, 07:04 AM
He is playing with Rockets SL team.

Damn.

urunobili
07-03-2009, 08:16 AM
Is Austin Nichols playing with anybody at all?

Solid D
07-03-2009, 11:17 AM
I'd like to see Antonio Anderson get some decent minutes or maybe come to Austin. He was an excellent defender for coach Cal and was a very good all-around player. He just needs to work on his 3-pt. shooting and FT stroke a bit.

bishopospurs
07-03-2009, 11:53 AM
Did Josh Heytvelt catch on with someone? Other than a cell mate...

BackHome
07-03-2009, 01:23 PM
Yeah, I wonder what happened to Heytvelt since most had him going high second round. It makes you wonder if they found out more information on his drug habits.

I think adding Blair, Gist, McClinton...are solid additions and then maybe Harriston or Antonio Anderson would also be another good pick. I think that Anderson will be signed to the Toros and if he works on his 3 he would be a great NBA defender!

TheProfessor
07-03-2009, 01:31 PM
Did Josh Heytvelt catch on with someone? Other than a cell mate...
He'll be playing with the Wizards' Summer League squad. - http://www.washingtonwizardsblog.com/2009/07/01/2735/

Darkwaters
07-03-2009, 01:39 PM
Marcus "Marquinhos" Vinicius is on the team. Interesting. Long, tall 3 that can shoot the 3. Pretty raw though. Nice guy too, I've met him about 3 or 4 times when he was with the OKC Hornets. Hes from Brazil, so hes probably been on our radar for the last decade or so being foreign and all.

DesignatedT
07-03-2009, 07:36 PM
Kinda as hoping Austin Nichols would be on the squad.... Any news on where hes going to be playing? hope its not dallas

CGD
07-03-2009, 07:48 PM
I would have loved that Temple player Christmas on our squad. Oh well.

Solid D
07-03-2009, 08:08 PM
I would have loved that Temple player Christmas on our squad. Oh well.

Clippers

gospursgojas
07-03-2009, 10:55 PM
SO did anyone answer the question to if/where these games will be broadcast???

Blackjack
07-03-2009, 10:58 PM
I'd like to see Antonio Anderson get some decent minutes or maybe come to Austin. He was an excellent defender for coach Cal and was a very good all-around player. He just needs to work on his 3-pt. shooting and FT stroke a bit.

I'd love to see Chip have a crack at fixing those shooting-mechanics..

I was actually pretty surprised to see his assist numbers where they were(around 5 IIRC), and we know the kid can play D, but I'm curious to know his legit measurements since it doesn't look like he was measured at the combine.

He's definitely someone to keep an eye on.:tu

duncan228
07-03-2009, 11:03 PM
SO did anyone answer the question to if/where these games will be broadcast???

Some should be on NBA.com, NBA TV and some local coverage. Haven't seen this year's broadcast schedule yet, but here's last year's coverage.

http://www.nba.com/summerleague2008/vsl_tvschedule08.html

Solid D
07-03-2009, 11:29 PM
I'd love to see Chip have a crack at fixing those shooting-mechanics..

I was actually pretty surprised to see his assist numbers where they were(around 5 IIRC), and we know the kid can play D, but I'm curious to know his legit measurements since it doesn't look like he was measured at the combine.

He's definitely someone to keep an eye on.:tu

It was 4.5 apg, but he was one of the slashers in the dribble-drive attack offense Memphis runs. I mean the kid was in there as a minutes leader those years with players like CDR, Rose, Dorsey, and Tyreke,. He's a very solid player.

Mr.Bottomtooth
07-05-2009, 03:01 AM
2009 Summer League Breakdown - San Antonio Spurs
by Jon L on Jul 4, 2009 11:00 AM EDT

To use the parlance of our times (or at least of three years ago), the Spurs are your favorite team's favorite team. They just do this kind of thing (draft, D-league, etc.) better than everyone else. Two of their recent draft picks, DeJuan Blair and Jack McClinton, were hailed as immediate contributors, not bad for mid-to-late second round guys. And pretty much everyone is assuming their other pick, Nando de Colo, is going to work out just because the Spurs drafted him.

The San Antonio Summer League team has other players who you may or may not know, but who can contribute. George Hill started showing some ability for the team last year, and they've brought in some D-Leaguers like Malik Hairston and Romel Beck who other teams might wish they had. A full breakdown after the jump.

Oh, but first, Marcus Williams isn't here, which is kind of strange. I don't know if he's hurt or what, but he should be here. He played well enough (extremely well) for the Spurs' D-League affiliate last year that they actually released Hairston, who had a Spurs contract, in order to be able to sign Williams and prevent another team from calling him up. He's listed as a forward but is really a 6'7" point guard, and he really grew into that role over the course of last season. He should be on the Summer League roster, but he's not. Huh.

Anyway, full breakdown after the jump.



George Hill (6'2" G) - Hill was drafted in 2008 and impressed in that year's Summer League, guarding guys like OJ Mayo. He spent a fair amount of time last year backing up Tony Parker, though he's not a solid enough assist man to be a "true" point guard and is more of a combo. He's not a defensive standout yet, but the ability is there and that's partly how he worked his way into the Spurs' rotation.

Ian Mahinmi (6'11" C) - Mahinmi didn't play much last year because of injuries, but the Spurs and others remain high on his prospects. He was drafted in 2005 but remained in France for a few years before coming over and starting out with the Austin Toros in 2007. There he averaged 17 points and 8 rebounds, along with close to two blocks a game. His jumper isn't very consistent, but he's a nice athletic big man who's close to contributing to the big-league club.

Malik Hairston (6'6" G) - Hairston had a contract with the Spurs and appeared in 15 games for them last year, and had been playing for the Toros when the team became enamored of Marcus Williams and cut Hairston to make room. He stayed with the Toros, though, which probably made for some awkward situations with his still-teammate Williams. I wrote more extensively about Hairston here, but to summarize he can definitely score, he's a good rebounder for his position, and while he's not that quick he's a good but not great defender. He had a propensity to turn the ball over when he was playing with the Spurs, but with the Toros his passing was decent.

James Gist (6'9" F) - Gist was drafted by the Spurs in 2008 but spent last season playing in Italy. Gist is a solid rebounder, but his shooting mechanics are inconsistent. He's very athletic, but he might need another season of, uh...seasoning before he's ready to consistently contribute at the NBA level. He's a decent help defender but has trouble one-on-one, particularly in the paint. Reports are that he worked hard last season, though, so there's reason for optimism that he'll put it together.

DeJuan Blair (6'7" F) - For people who write about basketball on the internet, Blair's drop into the second round was borderline inexplicable. The word was that teams were frightened by the face that he had surgery on both of his ACLs in high school, but he was the best rebounder in college basketball last year as a sophomore, so you'd think they'd see that he's gotten by. He's not great at scoring, and projects to be less so in the NBA level, but he's a really, really good rebounder, particularly on the offensive end. He could come off the bench for San Antonio right now.

Jack McClinton (6'1" G) - He's a bit on the small side for a shooting guard, but McClinton's an incredibly efficient scorer. He mostly relies on his jumper for that, which is really solid. His game around the rim is less so. He's an okay ball-handler and reasonably quick but not overwhelmingly so. This was a good pick for the Spurs, though I imagine I'll probably see him in Austin at some point.

Nando de Colo (6'5" G) - Not to get all "stereotypes exist for a reason" on you, but you could see this one coming from a mile away. De Colo impressed at this year's Eurocamp, showing good court vision and passing abililty, and he has a nice pull-up jumper. I didn't find much about his defense, though, which probably means that there's not much to say about it, and he's not a great three-point shooter. I'd be surprised if he doesn't stay in Europe for another few seasons, but this is exactly the kind of player the Spurs have had success with.

Carldell "Squeaky" Johnson (5'10" G) - Squeaky was the Toros' ostensible starting point guard last season, though as I've mentioned, Marcus Williams increasingly handled those duties from the forward spot as the year went on. The first thing you should know about Johnson is that he's not a great passer, defender, or shooter (though he can get hot from three at times). The second thing you should know is that he doesn't turn the ball over, ever. That's not just a function of Williams handling the ball, that was true even when Williams initiated most of Austin's possessions. He averaged just over 2 per 36 minutes last year, and he spent a lot of time on the court. That sort of thing was incredibly valuable in Austin's fast-paced offense (they were the second fastest team in the league), and I suppose there's a chance the Spurs (or any other team) could decide that it's valuable to them, too.

Eric Dawson (6'9" F/C) - I know I've been more negative than positive towards Dawson on this site, but there are some things to like with him. He's a decent finisher around the rim, and a pretty good finisher. Unfortunately, he's probably more of an undersized center than anything else, and playing next to guys like Pops Mensah-Bonsu and Dwayne Jones meant that he had to play further out most of the time. He's not really quick enough to keep up with perimeter players, and his mid-range shot isn't very good. He's also not a great defender inside, though he occasionally makes some great defensive plays, so he's not too far off the mark.

Romel Beck (6'7" G/F) - I like Romel Beck a lot, though he was injured for part of last season with the D-League's Dakota Wizards. I was surprised to see that he's already 27, though. Beck is quick, and has a lot of scoring ability, though at this point he's still probably better suited for isolation plays. His defense is good but not outstanding. He doesn't always make the best decisions with the ball, but the talent is certainly there.

Antonio Anderson (6'6" G) - Anderson was the shooting guard for Memphis last year, though he was overshadowed by Tyreke Evans. He's not a great ball-handler or even a very good shooter, though he gets to the rim and finishes there pretty well. He's a tough perimeter defender, though, and a decent rebounder for his position. He might stick in the NBA if he improves his shooting form.

Alonzo Gee (6'6" G) - Gee's outside and free-throw shooting both need a lot of work, though he's a decent slasher from the perimeter. He's also been called an unfocused defender, which won't exactly endear him to the Spurs. He's an explosive player and his turnovers decreased with each season at Alabama, but he's still a work in progress.

Marcus Vinicius (6'9" F) - Marcus Vinicius was a Roman consul related by marriage to the emperor Tiberius. In 38 AD, he - oh wait, the basketball player. Basketball Vinicius seems like the type of guy who would've been drafted by the Spurs, but the Hornets got to him first. He's here now, though, and he's a quick, athletic wing player. He doesn't finish around the rim very well, and he doesn't take as much advantage of his quickness on defense as he should, but San Antonio is probably the perfect team to develop his game.

Donell Taylor (6'5" G) - Taylor played a few seasons with the Washington Wizards until 2007, but he didn't do much to stand out and since then he's been playing in Greece. You also may (or may not) remember him from when he played for UAB with his twin brother Ronell. He's not a good outside shooter, and his free throw shooting could use some work, but I guess he's a decent enough "end-of-bench" NBA guard. By all accounts he's a classy guy.


http://www.ridiculousupside.com/2009/7/4/936986/2009-summer-league-breakdown-san

biziofromdowntown
07-05-2009, 03:56 AM
I can say...who wrote that it's really uninformed...

In particular about James Gist...it's a better shooter that rebounder....

Bruno
07-09-2009, 01:45 PM
http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/090701_summerleague.html

Stephane Lasme has been added to Spurs roster.

Lasme has had a very good season in Europe this year. It's a quality addition. He has signed a contract with Maccabi for next year.

anjlbitz
07-09-2009, 02:07 PM
At a glance, Portland looks like it has the most complete team after the Spurs -- the Hornets and Nuggets are a little less deep, especially at the point. The Grizz could field very competitive frontlines if nothing else. I don't know enough about the Thunder to have an opinion.


I'm most likely going to the July 12/18 games then. Thanks for the heads up!

angelbelow
07-09-2009, 02:16 PM
just saw some blair highlight videos on youtube... man pretty excited for this summer league

objective
07-09-2009, 02:18 PM
If they've updated the list with Lasme, why haven't they taken off De Colo?

Dr. Gonzo
07-09-2009, 02:25 PM
Will Ian make it the entire summer league before he gets hurt?

FvckMavs
07-09-2009, 02:27 PM
just saw some blair highlight videos on youtube... man pretty excited for this summer league

Spurs will play Memphis at July 19. :smokin
Will Blair own Thabeet again?

Mel_13
07-09-2009, 11:11 PM
The Back of the (Really Large Manila) Envelope Guide to the Las Vegas Summer League

San Antonio Spurs

* DeJuan Blair Officially ordained as the Steal of the 2009 Draft after dropping to the second round, Blair will now go to work for the Spurs to disprove the skeptics.
* Jack McClinton The diminutive 6-1 guard out of Miami can score about 1,000 different ways. Is he another stroke a genius by the Spurs, or too undersized to translate his game from the ACC to the NBA?
* Carldell "Squeaky" Johnson How can we not make mention of a guy listed as "Squeaky" on the official roster? Johnson is a tiny point guard out of UAB who worked as a groundskeeper until the athletic department awared him a scholarship.

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-42-48/The-Back-of-the--Really-Large-Manila--Envelope-Guide-to-the-Las-Vegas-Summer-League.html

poeticism707
07-10-2009, 01:04 AM
Spurs will play Memphis at July 19. :smokin
Will Blair own Thabeet again?
:downspin:

objective
07-10-2009, 01:12 AM
Spurs will play Memphis at July 19. :smokin
Will Blair own Thabeet again?

Maybe not.

It's the last game and second of a back-to-back. Last SL I believe the Spurs rested their high profile players (Mahinmi & Hill) for the last game, though the fact that it was the fourth game in 4 days might have had something to do with it.

Blackjack
07-10-2009, 01:25 AM
http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/090701_summerleague.html

Stephane Lasme has been added to Spurs roster.

Lasme has had a very good season in Europe this year. It's a quality addition. He has signed a contract with Maccabi for next year.

It wouldn't seem he's got much of a chance on the Spurs but I was surprised G.S. didn't find use for him.

With the way they go small and like to run, he'd seem like someone that could move his feet well defensively and help to ignite their break with his shot blocking.

Pretty intriguing prospect on the right team..

liasion
07-10-2009, 03:57 AM
Nando De Colo will be playing in the french national team.

urunobili
07-10-2009, 07:40 AM
Nando De Colo will be playing in the french national team.

welcome to the board :toast