Sheed spotted at airport

[Spurs9]

Friend of who was getting on a flight just texted me that he saw Rasheed at the airport. What could the spurs be up to? :wow

[DMX7]

hm... we've had players here before that didn't sign though.

[Libri]

:stirpot:

[ploto]

They can't do ANYTHING before July1.

[mingus]

i don't believe this. not that it's extremely hard to believe or anything, it's just that i guess i have a very sensitive bullshit radar.

[clubalien]

like kidd ;/

I am sure he as just here to visit sea world.

Seriously though, I think Rwallace would consider spurs along with all offers. Now that the cavs got shaq I think we are his best option. If he place like he did for pistons and signs for around 5 mill I cannot see how that isn't a good thing for the spurs


Anyone spot horry at walmart .. must be resigning with spurs:rollin

[benefactor]

They can't do ANYTHING before July1.
Exactly. They could get in big trouble for even contacting him. If he is in SA I can guarantee you he has not spoken to anyone affliated with the Spurs.

[EricB]

Looks like he's here to be ready for July 1st.

[mingus]

can you imagine Sheed have a glass of wine with Pop ? lol

[picnroll]

He's visiting his friend Bonner.

[Spurtacus]

Perhaps he's scouting homes in SA.

[rayray2k8]

Maybe he felt like going to Sea World?

[Obstructed_View]

Friend of who was getting on a flight just texted me that he saw Rasheed at the airport. What could the spurs be up to? :wow

You'd better hope that friend is wrong.

[EricB]

You'd better hope that friend is wrong.


Por que?

[Libri]

Rasheed is probably doing a "casual" visit, if you know what I mean. :D

[Jose Ole]

I just saw Sean Eliot at a Taco Cabana here in Austin... it MUST mean he's coming out of retirement to play ball for the Toros?

[DMX7]

I just saw Sean Eliot at a Taco Cabana here in Austin... it MUST mean he's coming out of retirement to play ball for the Toros?

lol, he's been a spokesman for them for like 15 years.

[Dr. Gonzo]

I just saw Bruce Bowen at Saltgrass on 281. I'm sure that means he is going to get cut and resigned.

[EricB]

Ah the comedians.

[Jose Ole]

lol, he's been a spokesman for them for like 15 years.

I would LOVE to see those commercials with him back in the Fiesta color days... anyone seen those around on the WWW?

[Spurtacus]

I just saw Sean Eliot at a Taco Cabana here in Austin... it MUST mean he's coming out of retirement to play ball for the Toros?

I'd be there everyday, 3 times a day if I had free meals for life. :king

Sean Elliott btw. :wow

[Juanobili]

I keep picturing this starting lineup in my head

Tony Parker
Manu Ginobili
Richard Jefferson
Tim Duncan
Rasheed Wallace



man... that'd be sweet

[ace3g]

could also be a transfer flight to some other location

[Jose Ole]

Sean Elliott btw. :wow

When I spelled out Elliott, it auto entered a bunch of FUCK_LAKERS_FAKERS bullshit? Whatever.... TA-CO CA-BA-NA!

[ChumpDumper]

Friend of who was getting on a flight just texted me that he saw Rasheed at the airport. What could the spurs be up to? :wowTampering, I guess.

[Dex]

Sheed just wanted to remember the Alamo.

[BlackSwordsMan]

had to pick the hottest fucking day to come

[Biernutz]

He came to San Antonio for a vacation to enjoy the wonderful weather.

[Marcus Bryant]

I keep picturing this starting lineup in my head

Tony Parker
Manu Ginobili
Richard Jefferson
Tim Duncan
Rasheed Wallace



man... that'd be sweet

Starters
1 Parker
2 Ginobili
3 Jefferson
4 Duncan
5 Wallace or McDyess or Pachulia

Bench
1 Hill
2 Mason
2/3 Bowen or Finley
3/4 Gist
4 Blair
4/5 Mahinmi
5 Nesterovic or Bonner or Javtokas

IR
1/2 McClinton
2/3 Hairston or Williams
4/5 Oberto or project

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Its obvioulsy against the rules for a front office to make contact with a soon to be FA before their contract officially expires but are there any rules against say Duncan or another player inviting them to San Antonio to 'hang out?'

[Muser]

Its obvioulsy against the rules for a front office to make contact with a soon to be FA before their contract officially expires but are there any rules against say Duncan or another player inviting them to San Antonio to 'hang out?'


Don't think so, would be a pretty shitty rule.

[ploto]

When I spelled out Elliott, it auto entered a bunch of FUCK_LAKERS_FAKERS bullshit? Whatever.... TA-CO CA-BA-NA!

You must have misspelled it. A little quirk of timvp's for if you leave out the second t.

[JamStone]

I like it for the Spurs if it happens. For all his flaws and his age, he can still be a valuable piece on a good team.

[Libri]

Maybe there is a real good anger management psychologist in SA.

[Malice]

I keep picturing this starting lineup in my head

Tony Parker
Manu Ginobili
Richard Jefferson
Tim Duncan
Rasheed Wallace



man... that'd be sweet

That just gave me goose bumps....:wow

[manufan10]

Maybe there is a real good anger management psychologist in SA.

:lol

[Obstructed_View]

Por que?

I don't know. Do you actually want him to come here? And how many draft picks do you want to have over the next several years?

[Galileo]

Exactly. They could get in big trouble for even contacting him. If he is in SA I can guarantee you he has not spoken to anyone affliated with the Spurs.

There are ways of getting around the rules. He can visit any of the Spurs players and kick it with them, see how he'd fit in. He can also check out the city.

If he is in SA, then something is going on.

The number of current NBA players is smaller than the number of students at a mid-sized high school. These players know each other and have lots of friends.

:toast

[DynastySpurs210]

i don't believe this. not that it's extremely hard to believe or anything, it's just that i guess i have a very sensitive bullshit radar.

lol :whine

[Muser]

Starters
1 Parker
2 Ginobili
3 Jefferson
4 Duncan
5 Wallace or McDyess or Pachulia

Bench
1 Hill
2 Mason
2/3 Bowen or Finley
3/4 Gist
4 Blair
4/5 Mahinmi
5 Nesterovic or Bonner or Javtokas

IR
1/2 McClinton
2/3 Hairston or Williams
4/5 Oberto or project


:wow:wow:wow:wow

Exciting times to be a spurs fan :toast.

[Behrooz24]

Sheed's here for some barbacoa

[galvatron3000]

Perhaps he's visiting Timmy

[scottspurs]

I Love TACO CABANA its tha BOMB!!!!!!!!!

[Spurtacus]

Timmy called him over for some D&D action. Get Sheed drunk so he'll sign for the vet minimum. :tu

[DynastySpurs210]

blah blah we cant do much before july 1 lets just enjoy the moment : )
"DeJuan Blair"http://sportsfromthecouch.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/610x.jpg

[CGD]

I don't know. Do you actually want him to come here? And how many draft picks do you want to have over the next several years?

Sheed would be an amazing pick up. Not sure what you mean by in bolded part above.

If your suggesting that somehow we'd have to give up picks in order to get him, remember he's an UFA...

Great player to have in the short run as we wait for Tiago to come over in the next season(s).

[JamStone]

Maybe he flew in to watch a WNBA game?

Is there a home game sometime soon?

[scottspurs]

Timmy and Sheed chillin at Taco Cabana! Talkin bout what the rings should look like next year.

[DynastySpurs210]

Maybe he felt like going to Sea World?

lol this dude!
*sea world*:lol

[Trimble87]

If the FO is contacting Sheed before July 1st they are fined and draft picks are taken. It is 100% against the rules to contact FA's before then.

[Trimble87]

SA is a tourists dream... Heat... Some old Mission... A dirty River. Of course sheed is here.

[LakerHater]

Starters
1 Parker
2 Ginobili
3 Jefferson
4 Duncan
5 Wallace or McDyess or Pachulia

Bench
1 Hill
2 Mason
2/3 Bowen or Finley
3/4 Gist
4 Blair
4/5 Mahinmi
5 Nesterovic or Bonner or Javtokas

IR
1/2 McClinton
2/3 Hairston or Williams
4/5 Oberto or project

So, no Gooden, huh?

[galvatron3000]

we don't have a stupid FO like Minny had trying to secure Joe Smith of all players, wow...under the table deal for JS...priceless

[scottspurs]

Sea world and Taco Cabana has to make you want to come to SA!

[Supergirl]

could also be a transfer flight to some other location

yeah, because SAT is a hub to where? LOL. you must not be from SA. you can't get anywhere without going through Houston or Dallas.

[honestfool84]

could also be a transfer flight to some other location




yeah, because SAT is a hub to where? LOL. you must not be from SA. you can't get anywhere without going through Houston or Dallas.

that's EXACTLY what i was thinking. lol.

[EricB]

This might be legit, someone just called up to the Chris and Jason show and said someone else has seen him there.

[Marcus Bryant]

So, no Gooden, huh?

I think he'll be like Plan C or D.

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

I am all for getting Sheed, plus Mcdyess is rumored to be resigning with the Pistons anyway....

[SenorSpur]

Its obvioulsy against the rules for a front office to make contact with a soon to be FA before their contract officially expires but are there any rules against say Duncan or another player inviting them to San Antonio to 'hang out?'

Just heard on ESPN 1250 "the Zone" in San Antonio that he and Duncan are really, really tight. Obviously, the Spurs FO cannot have any contact with him before 7/1. However, it's not out of the realm of possibility that Tim could've invited Sheed to town for the weekend to hang out. If this is true, that would put him here early next week in preparation for the July 1st.

[Death In June]

This might be legit, someone just called up to the Chris and Jason show and said someone else has seen him there.Yeah, they're obviously not a reliable source of info regarding Sheed trades. Learn from the past.

[Muser]

Roll on Wednesday :hungry:

[EricB]

Yeah, they're obviously not a reliable source of info regarding Sheed trades. Learn from the past.

They're very reliable.

They always have guys like Bill Land, and others within the organization giving info. Hell they just had an interview with RC Buford and I know for a fact he likes them.,

[rayray2k8]

Let's just wait till July comes by fellas.
I'm still more interested in what Blair has to say.
He hasn't spoken much to the media about this value fallen down to 37.
He's got a hell of a chip on his big shoulders.
Would love this see this guy play small ball.

[EricB]

Let's just wait till July comes by fellas.
I'm still more interested in what Blair has to say.
He hasn't spoken much to the media about this value fallen down to 37.
He's got a hell of a chip on his big shoulders.
Would love this see this guy play small ball.


Theres a thread with a telephone interview with Blair thats not bad.

[Behrooz24]

Marley Fest @ TD's house

[bigdog]

There's no way that the Spurs FO is talking to him right now. If he really is in SA, the only real possibility would be that he is hanging with Tim, because supposedly they are really good friends....or.....he could be house hunting already.

[ace3g]

WOAI just reported that some of the Cowboy players were flew in today (showing footage of them in the airport) to help another Cowboy player with a football camp in SA. Maybe Sheed knows one of the cowboy players that is taking part in the camp?

[pkbpkb81]

Since this has been posted on spurs talk I have received 4 text messages telling me about rw being at the airport as any of the news or radio stations picked this up.

[EricB]

Since this has been posted on spurs talk I have received 4 text messages telling me about rw being at the airport as any of the news or radio stations picked this up.

as or has? haha

[Libri]

Holy! I just saw him at La Cantera

Any more info?

[EricB]

Libri i think he was being sarcastic...

[manufan10]

SA is a tourists dream... Heat... Some old Mission... A dirty River. Of course sheed is here.

:lol

Why does everyone call it a dirty river.. I've never seen a clean river. What does a clean river look like?

[pkbpkb81]

ok just got another text my buddy saw him at planet k

[EricB]

I'm glad this is being taken seriously :rolleyes

[phyzik]

:lol

Why does everyone call it a dirty river.. I've never seen a clean river. What does a clean river look like?

actually, I have an answer for that. Go check out the upper Medina river. even at 20ft deep you can see straight to the bottom, I cant emphisize how CLEAR that water is. Although I think "dirty" is the wrong word for the S.A. river, its "Muddy". :toast

[DespЏrado]

Sheed is a mother fucking Coup if you add him to

Duncan
Jefferson
Manu
Tony

I can not imagine a better off season save maybe like Lebron and Dwight Howard just magically appearing at training camp. In realistic terms the off season could not fall out better. Landing both Jefferson and Wallace significantly improves our chances of a back to back championship for Timmy. Fuck it Three-peat here we come.

[DynastySpurs210]

*LATEST UPDATE*
Sheed was spotted at the Mission Fea Market!! http://www.ruralintelligence.com/images/roadtrips/ElephantTrunkBrighter440.jpg

[rayray2k8]

Theres a thread with a telephone interview with Blair thats not bad.

Know where I can find that?

[ChumpDumper]

actually, I have an answer for that. Go check out the upper Medina river. even at 20ft deep you can see straight to the bottom, I cant emphisize how CLEAR that water is. Although I think "dirty" is the wrong word for the S.A. river, its "Muddy". :toast"Shopping carty."

[jgome21]

lol sheed came in here to chill wit my family, hes friends with my father

[TimDunkem]

Know where I can find that?
Spurs.com

[duncan228]

Know where I can find that?

Blair:

http://www.nba.com/spurs/multimedia/dejuan_blair_090625.html

Link for audio with McClinton and De Colo, with the Spurs announcement and photos:

http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/draft_090625.html

[EricB]

Know where I can find that?

Its on here, can't remember the name of the thread.

Its got telephone interviews with blair, McClinton and De Colo.

[Sii]

holy shit. this offseason has already been great

if SA got sheed...Jesus....

[HarlemHeat37]

Hopefully the next news will be that Mike Finley was spotted packing all the stuff in his SA home..

[Cry Havoc]

Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_

Sweet, it works. :D

[EricB]

Hopefully the next news will be that Mike Finley was spotted packing all the stuff in his SA home..


His house is for sale apparently.

[Juanobili]

ok just got another text my buddy saw him at planet k

:lol

[Mavs<Spurs]

He would be an awesome pick up, if we really do get him.

That would have to make us the team to beat.

Sorry LA, Cleveland, and Orlando.

[rayray2k8]

Thanks guys. :)
Be happy with what the spurs have right now, people.
Don't let the idea of Sheed coming to San Antonio keep you up at night. :rolleyes

[EricB]

Thanks guys. :)
Be happy with what the spurs have right now, people.
Don't let the idea of Sheed coming to San Antonio keep you up at night. :rolleyes


Yes sir :rolleyes

[DespЏrado]

Thanks guys. :)
Be happy with what the spurs have right now, people.
Don't let the idea of Sheed coming to San Antonio keep you up at night. :rolleyes

Up all night? No this is wet dream material. Last I checked you had to be sleeping to have one of those. :lmao

[crc21209]

Man if this is true...this is a fucking GREAT sign for us! :tu Come on July 1st!

[manufan10]

actually, I have an answer for that. Go check out the upper Medina river. even at 20ft deep you can see straight to the bottom, I cant emphisize how CLEAR that water is. Although I think "dirty" is the wrong word for the S.A. river, its "Muddy". :toast

I've been tubing on the Comal, and that is pretty clear. It's muddy too though, at the bottom. :lol I just ever understood the dirty river joke. I would agree with muddy, but all rivers are dirty. :toast

[Spur|n|Austin]

:lol

Why does everyone call it a dirty river.. I've never seen a clean river. What does a clean river look like?

the colorado river

[rayray2k8]

Up all night? No this is wet dream material. Last I checked you had to be sleeping to have one of those. :lmao

You dream about guys? :lmao
If that's you thing, then w/e.
But what I mean is people getting all "gitty" about the idea.
But, if he did travel to San Antonio, I wonder what he said about the weather? :lol

[phyzik]

that's exactly what I mean..
people getting all "gitty" about the idea.
But, if he did travel to San Antonio, I wonder what he said about the weather? :lol

My first guess would be "Motherfucker, its balls-sticking-to-my-thighs HOT!"

[scottspurs]

Sheed is in San Antonio to purchase Michael Finley's House. :stirpot:

[fyatuk]

that's EXACTLY what i was thinking. lol.

ich auch.

[toki9]

i feel like we're a bunch of stalkers here...

[Extra Stout]

There is an oil stain on my driveway. I looked at it --- and it is Rasheed Wallace! I think he is sending the world a message of peace.

[WildcardManu]

4th quarter playoff lineup

Duncan
Sheed
Jefferson
Manu
Parker

:makemyday
:owned

[Phenomanul]

There is an oil stain on my driveway. I looked at it --- and it is Rasheed Wallace! I think he is sending the world a message of peace.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g138/hegamboa/sheedfiresig.gif







Edit: I'm not taking any credit for the gif... it's an old classic from this site... which makes an appearance from time to time...

[Spursmania]

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g138/hegamboa/sheedfiresig.gif


:rollin

[completely deck]

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g138/hegamboa/sheedfiresig.gif

[Thompson]

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g138/hegamboa/sheedfiresig.gif







Edit: I'm not taking any credit for the gif... it's an old classic from this site... which makes an appearance from time to time...

Wow- I hadn't seen that one before. :lol

[xellos88330]

4th quarter playoff lineup

Duncan
Sheed
Jefferson
Manu
Parker

:makemyday
:owned

A lineup of All-Stars and former All-Stars. Nastiness at its best. FTL!!!

[SenorSpur]

Hopefully the next news will be that Mike Finley was spotted packing all the stuff in his SA home..

:lol

[manu the best]

I keep picturing this starting lineup in my head

Tony Parker
Manu Ginobili
Richard Jefferson
Tim Duncan
Rasheed Wallace



man... that'd be sweet


really sweet ...

[wisnub]

probably sheed come to SA to pick a fight....drop by at Pop place, drink wine together and go to local club and hit random guys

[Spurs9]

I think my head would explode if the Spurs got Sheed somehow. Lets keep our fingers crossed, if not Sheed spurs will add 1 more piece this off season. :lobt2::lobt2:

[TDMVPDPOY]

probably sheed come to SA to pick a fight....drop by at Pop place, drink wine together and go to local club and hit random guys

if they are hitting on guys, jefferson would also like to tag along....:lmao

[completely deck]

if they are hitting on guys, jefferson would also like to tag along....:lmao

:rolleyes

And so it begins.

[ManuTP9]

if they are hitting on guys, jefferson would also like to tag along....:lmao

:lol

[Fabbs]

Sheed is i believe a certified Laker Hater.

Would this help him decide to come on down and give the Collusionists a run?

[Biggems]

Hopefully the next news will be that Mike Finley was spotted packing all the stuff in his SA home..

hell no......i dont want him on the Spurs this season, but I dont want him to leave SA. He seems like a cool cat and a nice guy. Would be a positive to have in our community. Also, we need all the help we can get to make SA a bigger part of the HS and college BBall landscape.

[mystargtr34]

Damn i dont even wanna think about it until it happens, incase it doesnt. But how well would the team match up with the Lakers with Sheed.

[Thompson]

What is the earliest we could know that Rasheed was coming to the Spurs? I know they can't talk to him until the 1st of July, but if he accepts immediately will they announce it then, or do they have to wait until the 8th (or something like that)?

[EricB]

What is the earliest we could know that Rasheed was coming to the Spurs? I know they can't talk to him until the 1st of July, but if he accepts immediately will they announce it then, or do they have to wait until the 8th (or something like that)?

There could be a release that he has verbally commited, and can't officially sign until the 8th.

[phyzik]

There could be a release that he has verbally commited, and can't officially sign until the 8th.

Im sure you meant to say it cant be verbally comitted until the 1st. thats the extreme earliest.

[holcs50]

4th quarter playoff lineup

Duncan
Sheed
Jefferson
Manu
Parker

:makemyday
:owned


Yea that would probably be it and Ill take it. I think Blair is going to be very important to this team also. I really think he's going to be a really good player. Him coming off the bench is just awesome but i could see blair starting down the road. Our bench is all the sudden pretty awesome

blair, mason, hill, mahinmi, bonner (yuck), maybe mcclinton, maybe gist, hopefully get bowen back.

In one summer we have become soooo much younger and just sooooo much better. Amazing-i haven't been this excited about spurs stuff in a long time

[Obstructed_View]

Did they shorten the negotiating period to one week?

[Streakyshooter08]

Well, of course Sheed would be a good addition. But if I could choose a player to go after I would go for McDyess first.

That said, I really like having a shooting big next to Duncan. If you keep Bonner as the 4th big, you really have a lot of options. I am really curious to see what happens and who comes. If Sheed really signs with the Spurs I would really like to get another "classic 5" to battle with the likes of Yao, Bynum, Shaq,... Players I hope the look at:

Pachulia
Rasho (don't flame me but I think he would do alright playing limited minutes)
Gortat

We'll see...

[rascal]

Looks like Sheed is the Spurs first choice.

[afireinside20]

I keep picturing this starting lineup in my head

Tony Parker
Manu Ginobili
Richard Jefferson
Tim Duncan
Rasheed Wallace



man... that'd be sweet

With this line-up, it's over. Spurs 2010 Champs

[Obstructed_View]

Sheed would be an amazing pick up. Not sure what you mean by in bolded part above.
If your suggesting that somehow we'd have to give up picks in order to get him, remember he's an UFA...

Great player to have in the short run as we wait for Tiago to come over in the next season(s).





If the FO is contacting Sheed before July 1st they are fined and draft picks are taken. It is 100% against the rules to contact FA's before then.

^t

[mountainballer]

I would say bad timing to cook up something to get some attention. start this thread on Wednesday and the forum goes nuts.

[The_Game]

sheed will not accept what spurs will offer

he has stated he wants 8 mill a year.

[StoneBuddha]

It's been stated before. He wants $8 million, but if it comes down to retire or get paid an extra $10-11 million over the next two years with the MLE on a championship contender, he probably still goes with the latter. He seems to have his choice of other contenders (Clev, Orlando, Boston?) to sign with though.

He's exactly the missing piece the Spurs need, a defensive big man who won't be a liability on offense, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

:flag:

[MaNu4Tres]

sheed will not accept what spurs will offer

he has stated he wants 8 mill a year.

Sheed never " stated" anything. It was all hear-say.

[hater]

He is probably helping Oberto pack his shit for Dtown

[MarHill]

It's been stated before. He wants $8 million, but if it comes down to retire or get paid an extra $10-11 million over the next two years with the MLE on a championship contender, he probably still goes with the latter. He seems to have his choice of other contenders (Clev, Orlando, Boston?) to sign with though.

He's exactly the missing piece the Spurs need, a defensive big man who won't be a liability on offense, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

:flag:

StoneBuddha,

I disagree. Rasheed is talented, no doubt but he's an engima.

I would prefer Gortat. He can defend, block shots, and is 6"11. The Spurs need someone who can protect the rim behind Duncan.

Rasheed worries me.....and it's easy to say he would be motivate to play with the Spurs. But, I have seen enough Pistons games (during the playoffs the last few seasons) where he has melted down emotionally. That's unacceptable as a Spur.

We'll we see.....

[Muser]

StoneBuddha,

I disagree. Rasheed is talented, no doubt but he's an engima.

I would prefer Gortat. He can defend, block shots, and is 6"11. The Spurs need someone who can protect the rim behind Duncan.

Rasheed worries me.....and it's easy to say he would be motivate to play with the Spurs. But, I have seen enough Pistons games (during the playoffs the last few seasons) where he has melted down emotionally. That's unacceptable as a Spur.

We'll we see.....


Sheed is motivated under a coach he respects, He didn't resect flip and Curry.

[MarHill]

Sheed is motivated under a coach he respects, He didn't resect flip and Curry.

Muser,

Maybe....but that's no lock!

And at 35.....who you are who you are.

I see the upside on bringing in Rasheed...but there is the other side as well. And it's not small either.

[anjlbitz]

Does anyone have the stats regarding technical fouls per team this past season? As the team the Spurs have to be among the teams with the least amount, right?

[CGD]

Muser,

Maybe....but that's no lock!

And at 35.....who you are who you are.

I see the upside on bringing in Rasheed...but there is the other side as well. And it's not small either.

OK, so we get one Super motivated year from Sheed. That would be awesome, don't you think? After that if he loses interest, then we have effectively bought time until Splitter gets here...

[MarHill]

OK, so we get one Super motivated year from Sheed. That would be awesome, don't you think? After that if he loses interest, then we have effectively bought time until Splitter gets here...

CGD,

You make a good point!

If Sheed is motivated then the Spurs have a legit shot to win it all.

I'm just worried his enigmatic traits will pop up at the wrong time during the season and the playoffs.

As you can read....I'm still ambivalent about Sheed coming to SA. I like Gortat and at least I know what he will bring every night.

However, Sheed is extremely talented! Hmmm........

[Spursfan092120]

sheed will not accept what spurs will offer

he has stated he wants 8 mill a year.
I love it when people pretend to be a fan of one team when really they're a fan of that team's hated rival, so they try to hate on that team making themselves a contender while their team isn't doing anything. It's beautiful. :D

[Agloco]

They can't do ANYTHING before July1.

Except be spotted at the airport in your future hometown........:hat

[Flux451]

As soon as he got off the plane they called him for a technical for cursing at the humidity.

[Spursfan092120]

As soon as he got off the plane they called him for a technical for cursing at the humidity.
:lmao:lmao
At least it's not as bad here as it is in Jamaica.

[Agloco]

Just heard on ESPN 1250 "the Zone" in San Antonio that he and Duncan are really, really tight. Obviously, the Spurs FO cannot have any contact with him before 7/1. However, it's not out of the realm of possibility that Tim could've invited Sheed to town for the weekend to hang out. If this is true, that would put him here early next week in preparation for the July 1st.

I'm surprised Duncan228 hasn't chimed in about that yet. I've known for a long time that they were good friends. Sheed has openly stated in the past that he would love to play alongside Timmy before it's all over.

[The_Game]

I love it when people pretend to be a fan of one team when really they're a fan of that team's hated rival, so they try to hate on that team making themselves a contender while their team isn't doing anything. It's beautiful. :D

why would lakers need to do anything? they are the champs anf ig they bring back ariza and odom they repeat

an improved ariza and a healthly bynum=best team.

[HarlemHeat37]

LOL @ The_Game..he's drowning in fear..

NBA refs would absolutely hate the Spurs even more next year..can you imagine the combined complaining of a Rasheed-Duncan frontcourt? God damn..

[ABDENOUR POWER]

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[The_Game]

LOL @ The_Game..he's drowning in fear..

NBA refs would absolutely hate the Spurs even more next year..can you imagine the combined complaining of a Rasheed-Duncan frontcourt? God damn..

Your got one guy in duncan on the decline although still very good but no longer a dominate force the other sheed way past his prime who is only good for a few threes and some rebounds...hardly worth for other teams to be worried.

[completely deck]

Your got one guy in duncan on the decline although still very good but no longer a dominate force the other sheed way past his prime who is only good for a few threes and some rebounds...hardly worth for other teams to be worried.

mods change his title to this:

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9761/scaredycat.gif

[Galileo]

memo to the skeptics:

'Sheed was in SA because he wants to play here, and the Spurs want him.

End of story. 'Sheed will be signed in July.

[TFloss32]

memo to the skeptics:

'Sheed was in SA because he wants to play here, and the Spurs want him.

End of story. 'Sheed will be signed in July.

Glad someone sees the situation for what it is. If Sheed is actually in SA (and I don't see how anyone could confuse Rasheed with someone else), it's not just to hang out or get on a connecting flight (that was hilarious by the way :lol). Why else would he be here a week and half before signing day??? He probably got here even faster after finding out about the RJ deal. I also find it funny that numerous media outlets are reporting that the Magic and other teams are going to offer Rasheed, and they have no idea he's in SA chillin' with Timmy. Unless it strictly comes down to money, he's a Spur in less than two weeks IMO.

P.S. I don't see the Magic re-structuring Hedo's contract and also signing Sheed. It's one or the other in IMO.

[duncan228]

I'm surprised Duncan228 hasn't chimed in about that yet. I've known for a long time that they were good friends. Sheed has openly stated in the past that he would love to play alongside Timmy before it's all over.

Not much to chime in about. :)

It's common knowledge that they're friends, and that they have great respect for each other. Duncan has said Rasheed is one that has defended him the best over the years. There's been plenty written about it for years, the peak was probably the '05 Finals.

[Mugen]

Stan Van Gundy is a great coach, but does anybody really think he can handle sheed? he couldnt even handle rafer alston and even had friction with dwight howard is a saint.

there are probably only 2 coaches that can handle sheed and thats KFC and Pop.

Pop loves sheed and sheed loves Pop.

a match made in heaven.

[SonOfAGun]

THE CARROT DON'T LIE POP!

Can't wait for his HEB commercials.

[Spursmania]

THE CARROT DON'T LIE POP!

Can't wait for his HEB commercials.

:rollin

[jman3000]

Okay, seriously. Is this just a rumor that people are circle jerking to? Or has there been a confirmed sighting of him in SA?

[DBMethos]

Rasheed is the Bigfoot of SA.

[TimDunkem]

Rasheed is the Bigfoot of SA.
No shit. :lol

[lefty]

The Cavaliers are already the best team. Followed by the Magic with Carter now. Carter can negate Kobe. If the Spurs get Rasheed, I'd only put them 2nd, because LeBron is that good. There's no denying it.


That's what I call overreacting to big name trades

Cavs are far from being the best team

And Magic gave to much away for VC

[ffadicted]

It would be really, really dumb to have Manu start. Mason sucks at creating his own offense, have him out there with those guys.

Not so much that, but just his health because of the way he plays. Manu should only start the last 8 - 10 games of the season and the playoffs

[Muser]

???

LOL.

The Cavs were far and away the best team in the league LAST season. Forget about Shaq coming to town. Orlando got hot at the right time and they still barely won the series with Howard going to the free throw line anyone was in the immediate vacinity of him. Turkoglu shoots 1-11 from the field and goes to the line 10+ times.

I have to question how much you know about basketball if you think the Nets trade wasn't a pure salary dump. Courtney Lee is a decent player, is he equal to Vince Carter? Is he even close...? The answer is a resounding no. Alston is straight GARBAGE. He's proven this over his entire career. This isn't "street ball". Sorry.


How the hell do you "Barely" win a series 4-2?

[coyotes_geek]

And Magic gave to much away for VC

Huh? Two backups and a guy who never plays is too much to give up for Vince Carter?

[modtxspur]

The Cavs were the best REGULAR season team, definitely not the best team in the NBA. The cavs got shaq and didn't address any of the needs besides a low post. The Magic with a healthy Nelson would have demolished the cavs in the playoffs.

[Muser]

Complaining about calls going AGAINST the Cavs? Now that's rofl.

[4RINGS]

Sheed is at the Dominion looking for houses.

[Banzai]

So if Sheed joins the Spurs the lineup would be

TP
RJ
TD
RM
RW?

[Mugen]

so if sheed joins the spurs the lineup would be

tp
rj
td
rm
rw?

omg!

[elbamba]

Manu will not be the starting SG this year. Mason will unless they trade him.

[Mugen]

i still leave mase starting. hes responded better as a starter and manu would still be more valuable to the 2nd team than he would to the 1st team.

but a 4th quarter lineup of tp, manu, rj, rw, and td sounds really damn good.

[4RINGS]

He is on his way to Rivercenter mall to catch a movie at the IMAX wth TP, Manu and TD... hahahahaha

[VivaPopovich]

i dont know if pop can tame rasheed the way larry brown did.

if we land sheed hopefully he understands his role.

[4RINGS]

i still leave mase starting. hes responded better as a starter and manu would still be more valuable to the 2nd team than he would to the 1st team.

but a 4th quarter lineup of tp, manu, rj, rw, and td sounds really damn good.


It does not matter WHO starts... but was ALL know WHO will FINISH.

TP
MG
RJ
TD
RW??? maybe

[scottspurs]

The Cavaliers are already the best team. Followed by the Magic with Carter now. Carter can negate Kobe. If the Spurs get Rasheed, I'd only put them 2nd, because LeBron is that good. There's no denying it.

You are overating the Cavs. Lebron is a good dude but he doesn't have the late game finishing ability that some of the other top teams do. When it comes down to the end you don't win championships on paper. As good as these teams are getting with all these trades I beleive the spurs have the best finishers for the close games that will decide series in the playoffs. With all of these teams becoming elite it is going to come down to who can execute it crunch time.

Late Game Weapons

Cavs= Lebron is overated in these situations although he did hit a big shot last offseason. Shaq is a non-factor late in games because you can just foul him and send him to the line.

Magic=Vince Carter will demand the ball resulting in horrible shot.

Lakers= have Kobe (as much as I hate to admit it.) who is good in the clutch. Derek Fisher on offense Ariza (assuming he is a Laker next season.) for defense.

Celtics= Ray allen, Paul Pierce, Garnett not so much

Spurs=Tony Parker, Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, Roger Mason clutch on offense. Manu and Duncan clutch on defense. I wish we would bring back Bruce for another late game defensive stopper but we will see.

If you look at it the three best teams at executing late in the game will probably be the Celtics, Spurs, and the Lakers.

But who is going to get clutch rebounds or block shots for the lakers. Gasol-Too soft
Bynum-nope
Odom-yeah right

For the Celtics who is going to be able to force a turnover in the clutch.

Not any one of there big three. Maybe Rondo but who knows if he will have is head on straight.

Spurs have it all in the clutch.
Duncan- the greatest of late game passers
Ginobili- forcing late game turnovers
Parker- no longer afraid to take the big shot
Mason-Role player will be in to shoot the three in the clutch with ice water in his vains.
Duncan- You are NOT going to get to the rim against the spurs in the clutch forget about it Duncan is great at protecting rim in the clutch and he can also get that big rebound when it matters
And if we bring back Bowen for at least one more year will will have someone not afraid to guard the other teams best player in crunch time.

This is my argument that the Spurs will win the title. If we are on the right side of the injury basketball gods we will have the best team when it matters most.

I'm not saying it is going to be easy but its when you are biting your finger nails that the best memories are made.....GO SPURS GO:lobt:

[HarlemHeat37]

You do realize that Vince Carter shoots a higher % than Kobe on game winners, right?..

Lebron isn't overrated at all in clutch shots, he shoots a very high %, and he has a number of game winners..

"clutch rebounds" isn't as a big deal as you're making it out to be..also if you're a great defensive team, your "clutch defense" won't be any different..



anyways..

what the fuck is up with so many people questioning Rasheed's attitude?..it's just like the Vince Carter misconceptions when we were rumored to get him..I haven't heard ANYTHING involving Rasheed and attitude towards his teammates or anything during his time as a Piston..I could be wrong, but I don't recall anything..

His temper has also never affected him in "pressure" situations..he complains a lot to the refs..you know who else complains a lot? Tim Duncan..

[scottspurs]

You do realize that Vince Carter shoots a higher % than Kobe on game winners, right?..

Lebron isn't overrated at all in clutch shots, he shoots a very high %, and he has a number of game winners..

"clutch rebounds" isn't as a big deal as you're making it out to be..also if you're a great defensive team, your "clutch defense" won't be any different..



anyways..

what the fuck is up with so many people questioning Rasheed's attitude?..it's just like the Vince Carter misconceptions when we were rumored to get him..I haven't heard ANYTHING involving Rasheed and attitude towards his teammates or anything during his time as a Piston..I could be wrong, but I don't recall anything..

His temper has also never affected him in "pressure" situations..he complains a lot to the refs..you know who else complains a lot? Tim Duncan..

Even if you don't agree with my opinions you have to admit the Spurs are going to have the best team in the clutch.


And I Agree with you about Rasheed. He is still very good friends with Larry Brown so he should be fine with Pop. And I think he will get along with the rest of the team just fine. People sometimes mistake his passion for a bad attitude. I believe he just acts the way he does because he cares and he wants to win. I'll take a player like that on my team any day.

[Muser]

Manu and Duncan clutch on defense.



Manu, 2006, Clutch, Defense.

:depressed

[FuzzyLumpkins]

'Clutch' shots is a meaningless statistic because it is a small sample size. A player is going to have a tough time getting more than a handful ove rthe course of their career and 100 attempts posits nothing statistically. Using 'game winning' shots is that much more meaningless.

Oh and:


Carter can negate Kobe.

:rolleyes

[scottspurs]

Point is Spurs are going to execute in the Fourth Quarter and Win their 5th NBA championship!!!!!

[Obstructed_View]

This statement is almost worthy of starting a new thread for, so pay attention:

Whether or not Rasheed was actually in San Antonio doesn't matter now. The simple rumor has likely just driven up his price with all the other suitors. If anyone was willing to go over the MLE to get him, they're more likely to do so now, which puts the Spurs at a disadvantage.

BUT

Orlando, with 'sheed's former UNC teammate freshly arrived, and the soft Turk soon departed, is more likely than ever to be willing to throw the money he wants at him. That could make matching for a certain backup center very expensive for Orlando. Making Gortat a QO is a heavy commitment of assets, because that money is likely to be tied up until the rest of the potential free agents are gone, but it could pay off if the Spurs know the direction of the wind as it regards guys like 'sheed, and could be worth ending up not using the MLE, because there are trades to be made down the road.

[TFloss32]

Honestly... do the people around here even watch basketball? You just said LeBron and Carter aren't clutch. Hilarious. The #1 and #2 best closers in the game are #1) LeBron and #2) Carter. It isn't disputable... go to 82games.com, not espn.com blogs. But THEN, in the same breath you say KOBE IS A CLOSER. LOL!!! Read ESPN more, please. Kobe had less game winners than both Carter and LeBron last year, and shot 25% from the field. TWENTY FIVE PERCENT. THAT IS AWFUL/HILARIOUS. He was easily one of the worst on the list as far as field goal percentage goes in the clutch, AND on top of that, he was WELL below the league average.

Then, the other thing that is ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS is that Roger "Regular Season" Mason has "ice water in his veins". LOL Check out the guy's playoff statistics, he was absolutely HORRIBLE when it mattered most.

Y'all are completely wasting your breath with this argument. First of all, this a Rasheed Wallace thread. Go argue somewhere else. But while I"m here...who cares if LeBron and VC are the best statistical closers in the game? All that matters is that they have 0 championships combined. You're talking about something that is simply irrelevant. Statistics only take you so far, and then the intangibles come in. Kobe, as much as I hate the guy, gets it done when it matters that's the reason he has more rings than LeBron or VC ever will.

And Spurstrodaumus, how can you seriously think the Cavs were the best regular season team in '08/'09, and that they are the best team now? The Lakers were the best overall team in the regular season (beat the Cavs twice and had the best record) and the Playoffs (hence the result of the 2009 Finals). Also, the Shaq and VC trades DO NOT make these teams better (even the idiot Mark Jackson who kisses LeBron's ass admitted that much). The Cavs need a solid distributing PG, not another big man. Did you not see how bad the Cavs offense broke down in the ECF? They were relying on LeBron to do way too much and nobody else wanted to take shots. And please stop with this "the series could've gone either way." The Cavs were dominated in every aspect of the game by the Magic. They're lucky that they didn't get swept. Acquiring Shaq is just a desperate move to keep LeBron in Cleveland. The Magic on the other hand, gave away the PG that was the reason for their playoff success and a very promising rookie (Courtney Lee) for an overrated VC. Plus, factor in that both Hedo and Gortat might be out the door, they're a worse team in my eyes. I wouldn't be surprised if a healthy Boston is the best team in the East next year.

I'm starting to think you don't watch enough basketball my friend.

[4RINGS]

Clutch Players
1. Kobe
2. LeBron
3. Vince Carter

[smrattler]

Ok.... so nothing new on Sheed in SA?

[HarlemHeat37]

IIRC, Vince is #2 on that list of GW shots missed..so while I love VC, you have to be fair on both sides of the argument..

[TFloss32]

LOL ALSTON HAHAHAHAHA

Sorry, OK. Focus. Yes, I'm going by STATISTICAL CLOSERS, because that's all that fucking matters, opinion means shit. Kobe is shit in the clutch, and those stats prove it. If he doesn't have great teammates, he isn't winning shit, plain and simple. Carter and LeBron have never had the help that Kobe has had. And offense was not the Cavs problem, at all. It was that nobody could guard Howard, and when they tried to, a whistle blew. Shaq is a desperate move to keep LeBron in Cleveland? No. That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Shaq is there to guard Howard, because he is the only reason the Magic were in the finals and not the Cavs. I'm not even going to comment too much on Alston, because I will lose my lunch laughing. Rafer Alston is not an NBA point guard. He is absolute and utter garbade. You will NEVER win a ring with this guy as your starting point guard.

The Boston pick is hilarious for a couple of reasons: #1) The NBA player formerly known as Kevin Garnett is done. #2) Pierce is never going to be the player he was when he went 1 on 1 with LeBron 2 years ago again. #3) Rondo can't shoot the ball, and they're thinking about dealing him. #4) Their bench is awful. #5) They're made up primarily of hasbeens.

You're the one who's not focusing big guy, statistical closers mean absolutely nothing. You can pile all the best statistical closers onto one team, but if they're not winning games, does it really matter? I never stated an opinion about Kobe, he is who he is and the Lakers are the champs. Don't start the argument about not having enough talent dude. That no longer applies to the Cavs. I guarantee you when the Cavs were smoking everyone in the regular season, you were right there with ESPN and everyone else saying "LeBron's finally got the supporting cast he needs to win it all." Hell, you probably picked them to win the whole thing didn't you? Liar...Also, VC will NEVER be the focal point of an NBA champion because he doesn't do enough on the court like Kobe or Tim Duncan.

Howard was the ONLY reason the Cavs were in the Finals? When you lose 4-1, it's not because of one player. It's because you're not the better team. If my memory serves me right, Hedo was the best player in that series. You can call Alston garbage all you want, but if you seriously watched the Playoffs you would know that the Magic wouldn't have been in the position they were in if it weren't for his great play after Jameer Nelson went down. Hence my previous argument about the Cavs in desperate need for a solid PG, not another big man. And Shaq won't be able to guard Howard without fouling. Acquiring Shaq is a desperate move to keep LeBron in Cleveland. Can't you read between the lines? If they win a championship with Shaq on the roster, then LeBron doesn't have an excuse to leave in the summer of 2010. Why else would they get him?

On to Boston...how can you call Paul Pierce and KG washed up and not throw Shaq in there as well? He's way older and much less productive than those two. Why do you think he's been traded twice in three years? Rondo may not have a great shot, but the dude was putting up triple-doubles and near triple-doubles in the Playoffs. Also, the Celtic bench isn't great, but I wouldn't call House, Davis and Powe awful. You're pretty off base with all of these arguments and you sound like a true homer.

[4RINGS]

Make LeBron shot FT's, he will show you how CLUTCH he is... It is not even close, Kobe is the better BASKETBALL player, LeBron is the better athlete. When LeBron become a better overall basketball player I will give him the edge. Until then, Kobe is best ball player in the league PERIOD. Stats are for LOSERS!!!!

[lefty]

Sheed got a speeding ticket this morning in SA.

3 more tickets and he'll be kicked out of the city

[4RINGS]

ROFL.

Is this post sarcasm? I can't tell. Or is this like... a foreign poster who only sees playoff games on 200kbps streams?

Yes!!!:bang

[Spursfan092120]

Spurstrodamus..there's something you don't seem to understand. Listen closely...stats aren't everything in basketball. Some people have a spark...some people just have that fire that a team needs to win. I truly believe that in 1999, the Spurs would not have won the title without Mario Elie. Yes..Rafer Alston was a HUGE reason Orlando beat Boston. Without Alston's ability to shoot the 3, they wouldn't have won. Maybe he wasn't phenomenal in that series, but they sure as hell ran out there to him, leaving the paint a lot more open. Basketball isn't about just stats and facts and figures. You can ask everyone on this forum one question..."If your team had to make a game winning shot and your life was on the line, and you had one guy to pick to shoot it, who would it be?" 75% of the people on here, even the haters, would say Kobe. He's just got the instinct. I'd really love to know where you get your knowledge of basketball...or lack thereof...you seem like a computer nerd that thinks numbers are everything.

http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/comfortable_nerd.jpg

[4RINGS]

LeBron would make a great NFL TE. Antonio Gates like...

[TFloss32]

Now you're starting to make sense. Just kidding. Let's delve into this Alston thing, just for comedy sake. So your contention is that someone who shot 33% from the field and a whopping 27% from 3 was a main reason for beating Boston and playing the Cavs? You should write material for television. You are a real joker.

Oh, no question about it, Shaq is washed up. That really doesn't matter, Cleveland was the best team in the league without him last year anyway. All Shaq has to do is guard Howard and draw fouls, and they're the east champs. And don't make me laugh about production. Garnett is awful now. What did he average last year? 16 and 8 or something? O'Neal was 18 and 8 and a deserving all-star.

As for Boston, they're done. Their entire bench sucks even if they resign all of their free agents. Powe is the only good player and he's like 6'7", plus they'll probably overpay him. House reminds me a lot of Alston, in that he is complete and total garbage. If I was playing against Boston, I'd post him literally every single time he is on the court. They would be forced to double and they'd be ripe for the picking.

My argument for Alston is the intangibles he brings to the table as a PG and his ability to make plays as a distributor (one thing the Cavs don't have). He made the other Magic players better and more productive as the season went on. His shooting percentage is irrelevant because he's not there to be a scorer for them and he doesn't take a lot of shots, even though he did hit some big shots during the Playoffs. This is my reason for backing him and he has grown a lot as a player.

Glad you decided to admit that Shaq is close to being done. Garnett on the other hand is not done and has a lot more productive years left than Shaq. I don't care if he scored two points less than Shaq last year, he plays with two all-stars who put up close to 20 per night. Plus, Shaq's numbers are, of course, going to get a jolt if he plays without Amare Stoudemire for a good portion of the season. How can you call Kevin Garnett, the Defensive Player of the Year from a year ago, awful? He will be a big part of Boston's success next year and they are by no means done as a team. They will be a top 3 seed in the East and you know that (mainly because the East is awful outside of Cleveland, Orlando and Boston). I guarantee you the Magic and Cavs would skip playing a healthy Celtics team in the Playoffs if given the chance.

[Cheese]

Friend of who was getting on a flight just texted me that he saw Rasheed at the airport. What could the spurs be up to? :wow

Hes in town to see Eva.

[4RINGS]

Hes in town to see Eva.

He is at Walmart with Timmy, Tony, and Eva.:downspin:

[FuzzyLumpkins]

LOL ALSTON HAHAHAHAHA

Sorry, OK. Focus. Yes, I'm going by STATISTICAL CLOSERS, because that's all that fucking matters, opinion means shit. Kobe is shit in the clutch, and those stats prove it. If he doesn't have great teammates, he isn't winning shit, plain and simple. Carter and LeBron have never had the help that Kobe has had. And offense was not the Cavs problem, at all. It was that nobody could guard Howard, and when they tried to, a whistle blew. Shaq is a desperate move to keep LeBron in Cleveland? No. That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Shaq is there to guard Howard, because he is the only reason the Magic were in the finals and not the Cavs. I'm not even going to comment too much on Alston, because I will lose my lunch laughing. Rafer Alston is not an NBA point guard. He is absolute and utter garbade. You will NEVER win a ring with this guy as your starting point guard.

The Boston pick is hilarious for a couple of reasons: #1) The NBA player formerly known as Kevin Garnett is done. #2) Pierce is never going to be the player he was when he went 1 on 1 with LeBron 2 years ago again. #3) Rondo can't shoot the ball, and they're thinking about dealing him. #4) Their bench is awful. #5) They're made up primarily of hasbeens.

You try and use stats as some sort of blunt instrument but you are completely clueless as to use them. True stats are the best vehicle to predict future performance but there are certain standards that have to be met and you fail oh so very hard at it.

1) You keep babbling about game winning shots when in the statistical sense those are being entirely misevaluated. First of all when looking at a game as a whole shooting a shot in the first quarter contributes just as much to the winning total as do shots at the end. The issue in sports is the whole idea of pressure which is virtually impossible to quantify. For example, there is much more pressure on the road in the playoffs then there is at home in the 12th game of the regular season.

Its generally accepted though that you look at performance in close and late situations. In football that is typically the last two minutes of a half with the game within 6 points. In baseball I believe its the ninth inning and within a run. Either way walkoff RBI are not the criteria for evaluation nor are a final shot that breaks a tie or takes a lead in the game in basketball.

For example under your paradigm, Duncan's shot against the Laker's in the .4 game put us up by 1 and had Fisher not hit the following shot to win the game, Duncan's shot would have been considered the game winner and counted. Instead Fisher's shot is the only considering factor. Prima facia, that is stupid.

2) I do not know nor do I have any desire to find out what the standard deviation of FG% of close and late game shots are in the NBA. What I do know is that the half dozen or so shots that Carter took in said situations do not constitute a significant sample size for them to predict future performance.

In short quit using stats because your use of them is worse than useless. Its misleading.

[scottspurs]

Honestly... do the people around here even watch basketball? You just said LeBron and Carter aren't clutch. Hilarious. The #1 and #2 best closers in the game are #1) LeBron and #2) Carter. It isn't disputable... go to 82games.com, not espn.com blogs. But THEN, in the same breath you say KOBE IS A CLOSER. LOL!!! Read ESPN more, please. Kobe had less game winners than both Carter and LeBron last year, and shot 25% from the field. TWENTY FIVE PERCENT. THAT IS AWFUL/HILARIOUS. He was easily one of the worst on the list as far as field goal percentage goes in the clutch, AND on top of that, he was WELL below the league average.

Then, the other thing that is ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS is that Roger "Regular Season" Mason has "ice water in his veins". LOL Check out the guy's playoff statistics, he was absolutely HORRIBLE when it mattered most.

I watch basketball more often than you actually post something meaningful.

1. Yes I did say Carter and Lebron are not clutch. Seriously have you watched them ever. :wgaf: about stats. And in no way was I talking about just making clutch shots. Im talking about what the contenders have as a TEAM in crunch time. As much as I hate Kobe he has proved that he can come thru in late game situations with his TEAM. Lebron maybe some day but not yet. Carter never. He can win all 82 games with a game winner next season but unless he leads his TEAM to a title he has done nothing. Lebron and carter have 0 rings. Kobe 4, 1 as the leader of the TEAM. DUNCAN 4
Ginobili 3, Parker 3. Stats don't win championships sorry son.

2. Maybe I jumped the gun a little on Roger Mason but I definetly would not call him "Regular Season Roger mason." As a TEAM the spurs did not get it done last year resulting in Mason only playing in 5 plyf games with the spurs so never call him by such a name again. Simply put he is not afraid to take an open shot. Have some support for your team

3. Don't tell me what to watch and what sites to go to because I'm not listening. I will spend all the time at ESPN i want and who gives a damn about 82games blah blah blah has to say. I watch basketball I know who is clutch and who has Rings.

[scottspurs]

I watch basketball more often than you actually post something meaningful.

1. Yes I did say Carter and Lebron are not clutch. Seriously have you watched them ever. :wgaf: about stats. And in no way was I talking about just making clutch shots. Im talking about what the contenders have as a TEAM in crunch time. As much as I hate Kobe he has proved that he can come thru in late game situations with his TEAM. Lebron maybe some day but not yet. Carter never. He can win all 82 games with a game winner next season but unless he leads his TEAM to a title he has done nothing. Lebron and carter have 0 rings. Kobe 4, 1 as the leader of the TEAM. DUNCAN 4
Ginobili 3, Parker 3. Stats don't win championships sorry son.

2. Maybe I jumped the gun a little on Roger Mason but I definetly would not call him "Regular Season Roger mason." As a TEAM the spurs did not get it done last year resulting in Mason only playing in 5 plyf games with the spurs so never call him by such a name again. Simply put he is not afraid to take an open shot. Have some support for your team

3. Don't tell me what to watch and what sites to go to because I'm not listening. I will spend all the time at ESPN i want and who gives a damn about 82games blah blah blah has to say. I watch basketball I know who is clutch and who has Rings.

Wasted post sorry i didn't realize everyone had already owned MR. statastic Spurstrodamus in this thread.

[jman3000]

I don't give a fuck what Kobe's late game %'s are as a whole. I do know that whenever he plays against the Spurs he'll shoot about 90% in the last 2 minutes (hyperbole, but that's what it feels like)

That's all I care about. Dude is clutch as fuck against us... whether it's in vain or not.

[smrattler]

This just in... Kobe is good.

[Spursone]

:wow
That just gave me goose bumps....:wow


That just gave me a Bonner, I mean a Boner!:wakeup