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SonOfAGun
06-27-2009, 04:51 PM
On the House floor

By: David Freddoso (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/bios/48283302.html)
Commentary Staff Writer
06/26/09 4:48 PM EDT

By all appearances, the House is about to vote on a very long bill of which it has no completed official copy.

Texas Republican Reps. Joe Barton and Louie Gohmert have just asked the chair whether there exists a complete, updated copy of the Waxman-Markey carbon-cap bill.

"If a bill for which there is no copy were to actually pass this body," Barton asked, "could the bill without a copy be sent to the Senate for its consideration?"

Through a series of parliamentary inquiries, the Republicans learned that the 300-plus page managers' amendment, added to the bill last night in the House Rules Committee, has not even been been integrated with the official copy of the 1,090-page bill at the House Clerk's desk, let alone in any other location. The two documents are side-by-side at the desk as the clerk reads through the instructions in the 300 page document for altering the 1,090 page document.
But they cannot be simply combined, because the amendment contains 300 pages of items like this: "Page 15, beginning line 8, strike paragraph (11)..." How many members of Congress do you suppose have gone through it all to see how it changes the bill?

Global Warming is apparently so urgent that we can't even wait until members of Congress know what they're voting on.


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/wheres-the-bill-49208987.html

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Party politics aside, this is wrong.

fyatuk
06-27-2009, 05:08 PM
Global Warming is apparently so urgent that we can't even wait until members of Congress know what they're voting on.


Personally, I don't think a bill should be allowed to be voted on until a completed copy has existed for 24 hours. Every time an amendment is done to it, you'd have to add it to the copy and wait a day before voting on it.

It's just stupid. But no one ever said common sense and government go hand in hand.

coyotes_geek
06-27-2009, 05:10 PM
transparency is just for campaign rhetoric.

Wild Cobra
06-27-2009, 09:31 PM
I would think that the bill is illegal if there isn't a record copy before the vote.

jman3000
06-27-2009, 10:02 PM
With all of these bully tactics, the Dems aren't doing themselves any favors for 2010. I hope they get their asses handed to them.

Sad thing is both sides would do it.

Winehole23
06-28-2009, 01:04 AM
Reading things so reflects a pre-9/11 mindset. Not reading things before voting on them is the new fastidiousness.

SonOfAGun
06-29-2009, 03:52 PM
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j191/mikesamerica/mikesamerica2/wrqwer-1.jpg

lulz

Marcus Bryant
06-29-2009, 04:08 PM
If you dissent, you are lower than a Holocaust denier.

The great carbon bogeyman lurks in the shadows. Pass it now!