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franceout
06-28-2009, 02:24 PM
FYI
McDyess Returning to Detroit Unlikely

When Antonio McDyess was traded midway through the season last year he showed his loyalty to the Detroit Pistons by sitting out a month just so he could re-sign with the team that gave him his championship ring. Now, however, things have changed in Detroit and it seems increasingly improbably that Dice is a Piston next season, according to MLive.com's A. Sherrod Blakely (http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.ssf/2009/06/resigning_antonio_mcdyess_for.html).

Despite the fact that he's 35 years old, the demand for McDyess is relatively extensive. When he did become a free agent in the middle of last season several contending veteran teams showed serious interest, which should be the case again this summer. Teams like San Antonio and Boston could very well lay out the red carpet for him once again, and his resume is likely to be enough to get him a significant offer, probably for two years.

Detroit has tons of cap space to work with this summer, but McDyess clearly is not the priority for a team ready to start some sort of youth movement. It's time for these guys to rebuild, which means McDyess is probably a goner from the Motor City.

Muser
06-28-2009, 02:26 PM
Wednesday is gonna be awesome :hungry:

4RINGS
06-28-2009, 02:27 PM
FYI
McDyess Returning to Detroit Unlikely

When Antonio McDyess was traded midway through the season last year he showed his loyalty to the Detroit Pistons by sitting out a month just so he could re-sign with the team that gave him his championship ring. Now, however, things have changed in Detroit and it seems increasingly improbably that Dice is a Piston next season, according to MLive.com's A. Sherrod Blakely (http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.ssf/2009/06/resigning_antonio_mcdyess_for.html).

Despite the fact that he's 35 years old, the demand for McDyess is relatively extensive. When he did become a free agent in the middle of last season several contending veteran teams showed serious interest, which should be the case again this summer. Teams like San Antonio and Boston could very well lay out the red carpet for him once again, and his resume is likely to be enough to get him a significant offer, probably for two years.

Detroit has tons of cap space to work with this summer, but McDyess clearly is not the priority for a team ready to start some sort of youth movement. It's time for these guys to rebuild, which means McDyess is probably a goner from the Motor City.


OK, here we go again.... Gortat or McDyess???

I'll take McDyess... :flag:

Spursfan092120
06-28-2009, 02:27 PM
I wonder if anything's actually going to happen on Wednesday..I'm excited for it too, but I don't know want to get too excited, thinking something will definitely happen, and then nothing. :(

Darkwaters
06-28-2009, 02:28 PM
Sounds quite speculative...just what this person thinks would happen based on the situation.

What I heard is that McDyess didn't want to move his family again and wanted to stay in Detroit regardless just to keep his family in one place.

Who knows at this point?

Spursfan092120
06-28-2009, 02:28 PM
OK, here we go again.... Gortat or McDyess???

I'll take McDyess... :flag:
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Loge/7346/rasheed_wallace_245x325.jpg

BillMc
06-28-2009, 02:30 PM
My guess is nothing will happen for a few weeks. Teams will do interviews, players will consider their options, etc. Hurry up and wait, I think.

Oh, well, we'll just have to live off the glory of this past week for a little while. AND GET READY FOR SUMMER LEAGUE!!!! :)

4RINGS
06-28-2009, 02:30 PM
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Loge/7346/rasheed_wallace_245x325.jpg


I agree, I take Sheed over all of them!!! Nice. :lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:

franceout
06-28-2009, 02:31 PM
I personally like dyce better than sheed, but I will be very very happy if we can land either of them.

4RINGS
06-28-2009, 02:33 PM
http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Ben-Wallace-Rasheed-Wallace-Photograph-C10208579.jpeg

Maybe Tim can grow a fro for us... Like Big Ben.

galvatron3000
06-28-2009, 02:33 PM
Dyess doesn't have a championship ring...with anyone!

franceout
06-28-2009, 02:37 PM
Dyess doesn't have a championship ring...with anyone!

rite, unless he had chosen to be a spur in 2006 summer.

duncan228
06-28-2009, 02:40 PM
Maybe Tim can grow a fro for us...

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x282/duncan228/12-18-05.jpg

4RINGS
06-28-2009, 02:45 PM
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x282/duncan228/12-18-05.jpg

I love it, maybe Manu can grow out his hair again and we can have the all-hair all-star team... That is another good reason Gortat is not a good fit... not locks...

http://lakers.topbuzz.com/gallery/d/50185-3/Trevor+Ariza+dunks+over+Marcin+Gortat.jpg

DJB
06-28-2009, 02:47 PM
Why does everyone want Antonio McDyess? I find this hilarious. That old man's balls are probably saggier than Lindsay Lohan's post-anorexia titties.:wgaf:

4RINGS
06-28-2009, 02:50 PM
Why does everyone want Antonio McDyess? I find this hilarious. That old man's balls are probably saggier than Lindsay Lohan's post-anorexia titties.:wgaf:

They are still firm....
http://brokencountry.com/webimages/llboob.jpg

Obstructed_View
06-28-2009, 02:53 PM
When Antonio McDyess was traded midway through the season last year he showed his loyalty to the Detroit Pistons by sitting out a month just so he could re-sign with the team that gave him his championship ring.

Did they make up an extra one for him? I don't even think Dyess was in the league the year the Pistons won.

DJB
06-28-2009, 02:55 PM
They are still firm....

This picture was taken so long ago. Here's a more recent one obviously:
http://egotastic.com/image?path=0904/lindsay-lohan-side-boob-04.jpg&info=Lindsay%20Lohan%20Side%20Boob%20Pictures

4RINGS
06-28-2009, 02:59 PM
This picture was taken so long ago. Here's a more recent one obviously:
http://egotastic.com/image?path=0904/lindsay-lohan-side-boob-04.jpg&info=Lindsay%20Lohan%20Side%20Boob%20Pictures

Good point. They are down to her knee caps. :lmao:lmao

DJB
06-28-2009, 02:59 PM
If u want to beat the Lakers we need size. McDyes is undersized and old. 6'9 is not going to cut it in the paint against Gasol and Bynum guys, sorry to tell you but signing McDyess would be a mistake.

Mel_13
06-28-2009, 03:00 PM
OK, here we go again.... Gortat or McDyess???

I'll take McDyess... :flag:

Better question, Sheed or Dice.

I'll take Dice.

urunobili
06-28-2009, 03:00 PM
Dice>Sheed on our system...

DJB
06-28-2009, 03:02 PM
Dice>Sheed on our system...


Worst comment ever. Rasheed is constructed to be a San Antonio Spur. A 7 footer who can D up bigs as well as anyone in the league and stroke the 3 better than any 7 footer. (except for dirk)

You sir have failed.
:nope

z0sa
06-28-2009, 03:06 PM
Worst comment ever. Rasheed is constructed to be a San Antonio Spur. A 7 footer who can D up bigs as well as anyone in the league and stroke the 3 better than any 7 footer. You sir have failed. (Except for Dirk)
:nope

while I don't own the veracity you do, sayign Dice>sheed in our system does seem inaccurate. A shooting bigman at that 4/5 spot is a staple of Pop's lineups, and while Dice can shoot, Sheed can shoot 3's which is ultimately better for TD, TP, Manu and RJ's spacing.

Kori Ellis
06-28-2009, 03:06 PM
Worst comment ever. Rasheed is constructed to be a San Antonio Spur. A 7 footer who can D up bigs as well as anyone in the league and stroke the 3 better than any 7 footer. (except for dirk)

You sir have failed.
:nope

He's about 6'10.

4RINGS
06-28-2009, 03:06 PM
Worst comment ever. Rasheed is constructed to be a San Antonio Spur. A 7 footer who can D up bigs as well as anyone in the league and stroke the 3 better than any 7 footer. (except for dirk)

You sir have failed.
:nope

Right!! Sheed is taylor made for our system. He is a very good defender and can stretch the D on Offence. We would be able to score from both post positions. We would be multi-dimentional.:toast:toast

4RINGS
06-28-2009, 03:08 PM
He's about 6'10.


He is listed at 6'11, same as Timmy.

Kori Ellis
06-28-2009, 03:09 PM
There's been so much talk about Rasheed and McDyess that the Spurs will probably go for someone completely different like Wilcox, who can't play D or block shots at all. :lol

urunobili
06-28-2009, 03:09 PM
Worst comment ever. Rasheed is constructed to be a San Antonio Spur. A 7 footer who can D up bigs as well as anyone in the league and stroke the 3 better than any 7 footer. (except for dirk)

You sir have failed.
:nope

So where in the job description to become a Spur you fit being a head case... a whiner and the referees favorite target? where in the conditions means get out of a game/series if something doesn;t go your way?

you sir... have NO CLUE about psychology in Sports...

Dice>Sheed on the Spurs...

DJB
06-28-2009, 03:11 PM
He's about 6'10.


No way he's 6'10, he's listed at 6'11 and he is pretty much head to head length with Timmy. A power-forward listed at 6'11 is a 7 footer in my book.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=0883

Obstructed_View
06-28-2009, 03:14 PM
It's tough to get offensive rebounds when your center is 25 feet from the basket, and I'm not sure how Antonio McDyess isn't a poor man's Kurt Thomas at this point. The Spurs may very well end up splitting up the MLE and LLE among two or three guys. We all know Pop likes vets, and as the euphoria from the draft wears off, it's become apparent to me that he won't be happy with this many rookies on the team.

DJB
06-28-2009, 03:15 PM
So where in the job description to become a Spur you fit being a head case... a whiner and the referees favorite target? where in the conditions means get out of a game/series if something doesn;t go your way?

you sir... have NO CLUE about psychology in Sports...

Dice>Sheed on the Spurs...

Oh, you're one of those fans that's worried about him being a headcase even with Popp as his coach. I suppose you don't remember how he played when Larry Brown was in Detroit? They won the title in 04 and gave us a run for our money in 05.

So once AGAIN:
http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/fail-owned-double-fail.jpg?w=500&h=375

Kori Ellis
06-28-2009, 03:15 PM
No way he's 6'10, he's listed at 6'11 and he is pretty much head to head length with Timmy. A power-forward listed at 6'11 is a 7 footer in my book.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=0883


Tim is about 6'10 too. My only point was he's not a true 7 footer.

And he shoots about 34% from 3 ... is that the best among big men outside Dirk?

What about Troy Murphy, Okur and even Bonner?

4RINGS
06-28-2009, 03:16 PM
There's been so much talk about Rasheed and McDyess that the Spurs will probably go for someone completely different like Wilcox, who can't play D or block shots at all. :lol

Good point, the Spurs FO usually does not do what we all expect, we will see what happens.

But not Wilcox... please...

DJB
06-28-2009, 03:20 PM
I didn't realize that you had personally taken a measuring tape to Tim Duncan and Rasheed Wallace from head to toe. My bad.

4RINGS
06-28-2009, 03:20 PM
So where in the job description to become a Spur you fit being a head case... a whiner and the referees favorite target? where in the conditions means get out of a game/series if something doesn;t go your way?

you sir... have NO CLUE about psychology in Sports...

Dice>Sheed on the Spurs...

Why is everyone so afraid of Sheed? Look how well Artest did with the Rockets last year... now he is the biggest head case of them all.

Kori Ellis
06-28-2009, 03:21 PM
I didn't realize that you had personally taken a measuring tape to Tim Duncan and Rasheed Wallace from head to toe. My bad.

I didn't ... but I have stood next to them both plenty of times to know neither one is 7 feet and they are about the same size.

DJB
06-28-2009, 03:22 PM
All I'm getting at is that to say: "Dyess>Sheed in the San Antonio Spurs system" couldn't be further from the truth IMO. And I feel a lot of people who know the Spurs and basketball would agree with me.

duncan228
06-28-2009, 03:24 PM
It's been pretty well established over the years that Duncan is much closer to 6'10 than 6'11. And he was never 7'.

Kori Ellis
06-28-2009, 03:25 PM
All I'm getting at is that to say: "Dyess>Sheed in the San Antonio Spurs system" couldn't be further from the truth IMO. And I feel a lot of people who know the Spurs and basketball would agree with me.

Spurs fans should probably be happy with either one. I think Rasheed would behave here. He's friends with Timmy and has a lot of respect for Pop. I don't think he'd be going crazy all the time. McDyess is the exact personality that fits in the Spurs culture and he averaged 10/10 this past season. If they can get either one at a reasonable price, there's probably nothing to complain about.

DJB
06-28-2009, 03:26 PM
Well then if Tim Duncan is 6'10 then Drew Gooden is 6'7 and we all know that's not accurate.

4RINGS
06-28-2009, 03:31 PM
All I'm getting at is that to say: "Dyess>Sheed in the San Antonio Spurs system" couldn't be further from the truth IMO. And I feel a lot of people who know the Spurs and basketball would agree with me.

It is obvious. If Sheed was a model citizen this board would welcome his experience and skill to the team. But, since he is a strong personality, these nancy boys are worried that he will ruin the Spurs choir boy reps. Take me back to the "BRUISE BROTHER" days. Don't cry, it will be OK. :flag:

Dex
06-28-2009, 03:39 PM
A power-forward listed at 6'11 is a 7 footer in my book.

http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/fail-math-expand.jpg

Spursmania
06-28-2009, 03:53 PM
Well then if Tim Duncan is 6'10 then Drew Gooden is 6'7 and we all know that's not accurate.

Dejuan, shouldn't you be running sprints and lifting weight in anticipation of summer camp?:lol

tmtcsc
06-28-2009, 04:02 PM
This picture was taken so long ago. Here's a more recent one obviously:
http://egotastic.com/image?path=0904/lindsay-lohan-side-boob-04.jpg&info=Lindsay%20Lohan%20Side%20Boob%20Pictures

Cocaine is a helluva drug....

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/08/07/rick_james,0.jpg

tmtcsc
06-28-2009, 04:05 PM
It's tough to get offensive rebounds when your center is 25 feet from the basket, and I'm not sure how Antonio McDyess isn't a poor man's Kurt Thomas at this point.


Kurt Thomas is a poor man's Kurt Thomas. I'm so glad we moved him out.

Horse
06-28-2009, 05:24 PM
I love sheed's D and his clutch play. I also love dice and his mastery of the lost art of mid-range shooting.

DBMethos
06-28-2009, 05:36 PM
Sheed is the sexy pick, while Dice is the solid pick. Either one works for me.

EricB
06-28-2009, 05:39 PM
It's tough to get offensive rebounds when your center is 25 feet from the basket, and I'm not sure how Antonio McDyess isn't a poor man's Kurt Thomas at this point. The Spurs may very well end up splitting up the MLE and LLE among two or three guys. We all know Pop likes vets, and as the euphoria from the draft wears off, it's become apparent to me that he won't be happy with this many rookies on the team.


McDeyss is twice the player Kurt Thomas is.

More athletic, better rebounder, much better scorer of the basketball.

K-State Spur
06-28-2009, 06:01 PM
while I don't own the veracity you do, sayign Dice>sheed in our system does seem inaccurate. A shooting bigman at that 4/5 spot is a staple of Pop's lineups, and while Dice can shoot, Sheed can shoot 3's which is ultimately better for TD, TP, Manu and RJ's spacing.

I like Sheed on this team, but for being a decent (but not great) 3 point shooter, he sure shoots a hell of a lot of them.

It's possible that he would reign that in a bit and not take shots away from some of the others on this team...but he probably should have been doing that in Detroit as well.

GSH
06-28-2009, 06:07 PM
Well then if Tim Duncan is 6'10 then Drew Gooden is 6'7 and we all know that's not accurate.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a14/zucchixai/Worf_is_Frustrated.gif

EricB
06-28-2009, 06:08 PM
McDyess isn't going back!?!?


but but but, someone here said he was!

raspsa
06-28-2009, 08:11 PM
I think McDyess has maintained greater consistency in his overall game over the past several years. I love his mid-range jumper.. it may not be a 3-point shot but opponents will have to respect it and it will open up the middle. He's a better defender and rebounder. He's got the Spurs mentality and he's HUNGRY, never having won a ring.

Wallace's games has dropped off. By his very nature he's temperamental and this affects his game w/c can be very good or very bad, depending on his mood. If his 3-point shot is falling, terrific but otherwise, opponents may be content to let him clank shots off the rim to his heart's content. Athletically, he's lost a step as well.

McDyess is the better choice IMO.

bigfan
06-28-2009, 09:26 PM
Right!! Sheed is taylor made for our system. He is a very good defender and can stretch the D on Offence. We would be able to score from both post positions. We would be multi-dimentional.:toast:toast


The only problem is Rasheed is an asshole. Ill take McDyes any day over him.

4RINGS
06-28-2009, 09:35 PM
The only problem is Rasheed is an asshole. Ill take McDyes any day over him.


http://www.everyjoe.com/nbaobsessed/files/2008/01/rasheed-wallace-pointing.jpg

This guy is not an asshole. He is the next Spur!! :lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:

Marcus Bryant
06-28-2009, 09:40 PM
If these were the Spurs of 1999, then you would need someone who would speak up and lit a fire under the rest of the team (ala Elie). I'm not sure that's needed any more. I like McDyess since he gives you what you need and he's not going to cause any drama.

And I still have visions of Wallace leaving Horry on the inbound near the end of Game 5 of the '05 Finals.

4RINGS
06-28-2009, 09:49 PM
http://www.sportsbettingindex.net/sports_betting_tips/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/detroit-pistons-rasheed-wallace.jpg

Sheed and Artest are going to have some nice battles in the SW division. I can hardly wait....

urunobili
06-28-2009, 09:52 PM
I still have visions of Wallace leaving Horry on the inbound near the end of Game 5 of the '05 Finals.

DMX7
06-28-2009, 10:11 PM
Worst comment ever. Rasheed is constructed to be a San Antonio Spur. A 7 footer who can D up bigs as well as anyone in the league and stroke the 3 better than any 7 footer. (except for dirk)

You sir have failed.
:nope

Yep, I like Dyce too but Rasheed is a better fit for this team. For whatever odd reason, I think he's a fan of coach Pop as well.