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Gant
06-29-2009, 10:10 AM
I'm not sure if this should go on the Spurs or NBA forum, but could you please give me your overall opinion of Oberto? Thank you.

coyotes_geek
06-29-2009, 10:12 AM
Pros: Incredibly smart player, great vision and court sense, great glue guy for a team.

Cons: Undersized, very limited athletic ability.

spurs_fan_in_exile
06-29-2009, 10:19 AM
Pop once referred to him as "the best ugly player" he'd ever seen. From the neck up he might be the best in the league, and he has to be because he just might be as bad as anyone from the neck down.

manufan10
06-29-2009, 10:21 AM
pros: Incredibly smart player, great vision and court sense, great glue guy for a team.

Cons: Undersized, very limited athletic ability.

+1

DBMethos
06-29-2009, 10:21 AM
Also we don't know if his heart condition is going to persist, making him very limited in his availability.

nkdlunch
06-29-2009, 10:22 AM
dude is the only NBA player with a grill. what else can you say, he is a bad ass

spurs_fan_in_exile
06-29-2009, 10:30 AM
He also the only player I know that can still look reasonably manly in a hairband.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6715/obertovsphxti2.jpg

That's not as easy as you might think.
http://theassociation.blogs.com/the_association/mike-miller-breasts.jpg

SenorSpur
06-29-2009, 10:49 AM
Pop once referred to him as "the best ugly player" he'd ever seen. From the neck up he might be the best in the league, and he has to be because he just might be as bad as anyone from the neck down.

:lol +1

Dex
06-29-2009, 10:53 AM
I still :lol when I think about him going for 11/11 against the Suns.

For what Oberto lacked in skill, he made up for with hustle and craftiness. For a guy as slow and nonathletic as he is, he made a considerable living earning bunnie buckets by being sneaky around the basket.

MB20
06-29-2009, 10:58 AM
100% coachable.
Will accept any role given to him.

Bukefal
06-29-2009, 11:11 AM
Glad he's gone .

Marcus Bryant
06-29-2009, 11:50 AM
Watch the 2007 NBA Finals. Oberto is a savvy player, but unfortunately the flesh can no longer do what the spirit knows must be done. I'd like Oberto back as the 6th big. In terms of knowing the Spurs' system and mentoring the young bigs, he'd be a nice fit.

mytespurs
06-29-2009, 01:17 PM
When and why did the Spurs acquire him?

I haven't been that overly impressed with him. And he's getting up there...isn't he like 35 or 36? And then there is his heart condition......

VivaPopovich
06-29-2009, 01:24 PM
good floor vision, good on-court chemistry with team

weak, can't rebound, can't post, can't defend the post, can't block shots

Tully365
06-29-2009, 01:41 PM
If Oberto's brain was in Elson's body, the Spurs would have their starting center.

buttsR4rebounding
06-29-2009, 01:44 PM
When and why did the Spurs acquire him?

I haven't been that overly impressed with him. And he's getting up there...isn't he like 35 or 36? And then there is his heart condition......

One of the many years that Scola wasn't coming over the Spurs went with plan B: Oberto. He actually signed for about the same as Scola did w/ the Rockets.

draft87
06-29-2009, 01:51 PM
When and why did the Spurs acquire him?

I haven't been that overly impressed with him. And he's getting up there...isn't he like 35 or 36? And then there is his heart condition......

he's 34. it was the right move to trade him especially considering who we got in return. i'd gladly take him back, but as you said the heart condition is a serious concern. i'm sure he's considering that as much as the spurs are.

spurs got him summer of '05. he was signed as an undrafted free agent when it was clear that scola was not coming to the team. i'm still not 100% clear as to why scola never signed, i've heard buyout, salary, minutes, position, rotation, etc but nothing totally makes sense considering the trade and the contract/minutes he got with houston. although someone mentioned how getting rid of jackie butler was a big part of it. i'd believe it, but what was jbs salary?

if you put oberto up against scola then oberto is a bust but the #s don't tell the whole story. oberto is clearly less skilled but he's very smart and crafty like everyone is mentioning. he's always accepted whatever challenge the team put on him. he plays the system and because of that even though he has never put up huge #s there are plenty of highlights including him grabbing key rebounds, assists, backdoor cuts, etc

Drom John
06-29-2009, 01:56 PM
Oberto set great picks.
While Oberto didn't get many rebounds, he blocked out superbly.

TampaDude
06-29-2009, 02:30 PM
Lotta mileage on that body, but he has a high basketball IQ.

draft87
06-29-2009, 02:35 PM
Oberto set great picks.
While Oberto didn't get many rebounds, he blocked out superbly.

absolutely. the finley 3 against phoenix in game 1 2008 was off an oberto screen!

Libri
06-29-2009, 02:52 PM
Oberto set great picks.
While Oberto didn't get many rebounds, he blocked out superbly.

Good points.

Manu said that Oberto often dances with the ugly one. In other words, Fab has had to guard difficult opponents regularly. Oberto doesn't score many points but has high IQ. He has lived in the paint doing the dirty work like boxing out, setting picks, fighting for rebounds, helping on double teams, and tipping the ball out, stuff like that.

barbacoataco
06-29-2009, 02:53 PM
I thought Thomas was much better at setting picks, and I think the Spurs will miss it if no one else steps up.

pad300
06-29-2009, 02:54 PM
if oberto's brain was in elson's body, the spurs would have a three time all-star...

fify...

chasky
06-29-2009, 03:12 PM
Pros: Team Player, Passing ability, good Rebounder, good picks And Smart player.

Cons: 34 years, Heart condition, undersized and slow.

Gant
06-29-2009, 03:41 PM
Thank you everyone. This has been very helpful. Good luck and good health to the Spurs next season!

MmP
06-29-2009, 05:52 PM
Actually Oberto is a great offensive player. A statement that probably is going to be argued. In europe was the center of his team's offense. But (as wise as he is) in SA he understood he was next to Duncan so it was nonsense to try score and did what his team and coach were asking for somebody to do next to Tim. Probably the same reason why Scola is not with us.

Thompson
06-29-2009, 06:55 PM
I'd like Oberto back as the 6th big. In terms of knowing the Spurs' system and mentoring the young bigs, he'd be a nice fit.

I'd prefer Kurt Thomas if they were both available. He was much better than Oberto last year (Fab barely played anyway because of his heart condition), and I would still like to see Thomas get a ring with the Spurs.